Republicans don't like working, they only claim they do. It's the blue counties that voted for Biden that generate 3/4 of the country's GDP and subsidize the red counties. Whites who live in said red counties are actually the largest recipients of welfare and government aid. But yet, they're always crying about taxes and big government. The level of hypocrisy and ignorance with the republican base is just flabbergasting.
I remember that. There was a farmer and black American worker on a HBO doc saying Mexicans and the hardest working people. Doing jobs white people (Americans) wouldn't ever touch
Alabama, which has a smaller industry/farm economy, tried this in 2011. They lost $11 billion annually until they finally gutted the bulk of it 2 years later. Looks like these farms are going to have to pivot to 'pick-your-own'.
Georgia tried the same thing in 2012 and it destroyed the farm and hotel restaurant economy for a while too. If Florida wasn't so allergic to history, maybe it could have learned from other states' mistakes.
Farmers could sponsor their workers but don’t as they would then have to pay a legal wage. OH and don’t forget workers comp and unemployment if the worker is ever terminated
Georgia tried this in 2011, they lost $1 Billion in unpicked crops. Florida is going losing money this fall. DeSantis is a political dunce, he is trying to get the vote of 25% of Americans while alienating 70% of the nation.
@@carol-us4xn Any of us. If they paid enough. But that's the whole problem isn't it? Illegal labor is cheap. They can't vote, unionize, or sue. Perfect! Problem is, Florida will knuckle under. When e-verify is mandatory coast to coats, we'll raise immigration quotas to sensible levels, but that won't be nearly as cheap and thus, no one but DeSantis has used it. Give the man credit. He's sincere in his efforts. Economically suicidal, but sincere.
@johnnichols9940 Assuming you're talking about H2A sponsorship, it's slow and expensive and for a host of reasons would result in our produce going up in price astronomically. I honestly don't care what the solution is, but DeSantis' current solution will cost Florida money. I don't get the point of him doing this. It's not going to benefit Floridians in any way. The same with his fight with Disney. Florida loses here, as Disney moves jobs back to California. What's the benefit here? Other than throwing red meat to his voter base, who aren't smart enough to recognize they're hurting themselves.
Exactly. He even has a budget for going into other states and just picking people up and dropping them somewhere else. Not even having anything to do with Florida. How is this even possible!?!?!
Most farms are owned by large corporations that support Democrats because of the subsidies they get and the illegal immigration they need for labor...🇺🇸🤷♂
Great Britain thought the same thing about Brexit-“All those EU workers are over here taking jobs from good British citizens and when they’re gone those good British citizens will step up and take those jobs and everything will be wonderful.” Guess what…..
One of the big factors of inflation staying high in Britain has been food costs which is directly related to shortages in labor. I saw a clip of a UK farmer who was begging friends and family to help with harvesting.
Pay these people good wages, treat them as humans. I’m an immigrant myself who came from the Philippines 55 years ago.thank god I came with the proper documentation, I feel sorry for these people who mostly work so hard.
Imagine coming into a country illegally. Next to no education Not paying what you need to pay to live here (taxes) demanding the new place accommodate them. Most don't even attempt to learn our language. Then they get scared run away again to a new place and I'm supposed to feel bad lol.
@gregdragoo4777 plenty come and work and don't cause any issues. Look at ppl who are born here. Doing nothing to support themselves and family. Collecting they can bc the feel entitled. Bt ppl are fine with that. Hmm.
@@gregdragoo4777that's a sad way of thinking my guy. As long as people don't commit any crimes let them stay and give them wok permits. With the 40+ millions immigrants you can bring nearly 500 billion in taxes but stay close minded that will help you
@@riftwalk2546 closed minded? I'm just educated enough to understand the consequences of over populating. Since the most populated places on earth are just lovely to live in.
Desantis used his brain to become successful. Cheap labor + lack of education = dead end. Mindless hard work is NOT the way to success in this country.
People in Florida don’t need fruits snd vegetables. Let the immigrants leave and let the GOP including those adults living in the villages to pick vegetables.
One of the largest problems is that we do not offer enough seasonal farm worker Visa's. A large part of our food is harvested by farm workers from Mexico.
Get a truck and go to the big cities and transport workers. Unemployed can't afford transport or cars. Someone is transporting illegals here in America. LaRaza?
I don’t believe H2A visas are capped. The problem is it takes two years to get a 6 month worker visa and farmers often can’t predict their labor needs that far in advance. Also workers work for multiple farms and no single farm wants to pay the sponsorship fees. The program is flawed.
My adult daughter has been in Australia on a work visa, now she wants to become a Au citizen. The way the US is going, I am ready to get my other kiddo over there! The Au poisonous critters are easier to spot than the ones here in America!
remember that even workers with valid visas are going to be harassed in Florida if the "look" or "sound" illegal. The rest of the US welcomes these skilled workers.
Great point. I don’t know enough but it seems like this system is broken & in need of a restructure. The problem with DeSantis is his only tool in his toolkit is a sledgehammer. Just destroy something & see how it goes. 🤷♀️ Obviously, we need immigrants, but we need a way to do it quicker & legally for all. But that’s too nuanced for sledgehammer DeSantis.
Crazy how corporations are all complaining about “worker shortages” meanwhile there’s a lot of people who would be willing to work these jobs and generate tax revenue if they were just allowed to be properly employed
@@natez9059 Yeah truckers are threatening to boycot Florida due to this bill and if the truckers stop coming in, EVERYTHING stops coming in! Truckers are the life blood of any nation, everything you see, eat and use have at one point been brought to you by a truck at same point! To quote a good RU-vidr, "If you got it, a trucker brought it!" 🤔 It's gonna be fun to see how Florida will look in 2-5 years if they keep this bill... Businesses will relocate to other states, tourism and the food industry will take a massive hit, especially restaurants etc... Florida will look like a third world nation real soon (even more than it already does)! 🙄
This is why every single employer should have to use E-Verify. They have been importing or trafficking, slave labor from poor countries for decades, and getting away with it.
What wage do you think woukd attract and keep American workers when the Unemployment rate is under 4% for a couple years now? Let me tell you because I lived it. $15 is not nearky enough. Neither is $25 or even $40. How much more do you think we should charge for a bushel of tomatoes if it costs $15 or $20 just to get them picked?
So how much extra can you give to taxes to supplement these "decent wages"? Either you pay before it gets to the supermarket or after, which one will it be? I hope you've budgeted for your basic groceries to triple in price 😂
@@LibtardsareFuntotalkto Because they think they're rebuilding the Confederacy. Pretty easy question to answer when you aren't afraid to recognize your neighbor's complete lack of character out of fear it might reveal your own.
@@undisputedtruth6176 Saving Florida by ruining it's economy? Oh, I get it, he wants everyone to move, so that when sea levels rise, it's not a problem because no one lives in Florida anymore. Clever thinking.
I feel like America is just making everything complicated. Just give the workers their papers. They proved they want to work and are not threatening. Make them citizens. They can keep them documented that way.
while I sincerely agree with you, I think the problem stems from a place of discrimination and hate but its masked as a solution to "provide more work for americans". DeSantis isnt really hiding how he feels about immigrants and its poisoning the minds of millions of people to think like him or to think like Trump. Not that I'm a fan of Biden by any means, I don't think anyone is. But their whole bag of getting the public's attention hinges almost entirely on conservative white nationalism. And as a result, we get things like this.
@@michaelericlieson5386 Sounds like something the government should focus on more… wages. Maybe things need to change. Laws and policies were made before America has been evolved. The migrants need to pay taxes… and help with the economy money. That’s why they should be citizens.
I have a friend who's an underwater welder. EXTREMELY DANGEROUS job. He gets paid like $150,000 a year. If American citizens will do jobs that are dangerous for the right amount of money, they'll do this job. The problem isn't the job. It's the money.
@@bupoe4796 that’s a phenomenon not caused by poor immigrants but retirees and other blue collar workers moving to Florida in big numbers, that’s a offer/demand thing
When employers know they can take advantage of illegal immigrants and pay them less it keeps legal immigrants from getting jobs, the hard jobs and the easy jobs. Nobody, except legal immigrants and American citizens should reap the rewards of working and contributing to American communities and states. When illegals can’t work anymore you will see the citizens take the harder jobs
oh the irony. democrats with being hypocrites, not a word when nyc governor deports them to other countries n states to keep them from there.where your uproar there?
*across state lines* keyword. You can drive illegal immigrants within the state but bringing them in from somewhere else is the crime. So if NYC decided to ship their immigrants back down to Florida, that would be illegal.
No he didn’t. All the immigrants said he lied to them. They’re lying and only you’re telling the truth, right? Why lie about something that’s easily disproven?
Break the “big companies”, who thrive off cheap labor. Force them to start paying decent wages again. Start having “small business” again. Entrepreneurship! Family farms that can both start producing professional positions, with good wages!
To everyone complaining that the Governor is doing the wrong thing, just remember: These companies COULD sponsor their workers, other industries do it all the time - but don't, because then they'd have to pay them a living wage. As always, follow the money.
Follow the money right into the middle class and poorest Americans pocket. Ask yourself are you willing to pay more for things than the already high food prices of today. 🤔
Idk why we can't just let them come over and work on work visas. They could still have residence in their own country then come here to work seasonally. At least you have their information. This is all so stupid, obviously we need them. They will gladly work the jobs most in this country don't want and it costs less to employ them.
The interesting part will be what Florida farmers do when their crops rot in the fields, and they can't pay their bills. I would recommend that they send all their unpaid bills to Ron DeSantis, since he caused the problem.
We the cubans although a big number among immigrants in Florida, are not majority in Florida overall. And more importantly although the majority of the cubans voted for DeSanti, not all of them did it. Characterization of people never ends well and cause more divisiveness. We can't face the Republicans superficiality with superficiality
Here we go again. It'll be just like Alabama HB-56 (in 2011). It was a tough law too, then the state realized it was a BIG mistake when no one was doing the work. They repealed it secretly without the huge press conference they used when the law was passed. 😂
There are thousands of people that have been waiting to get a work visa and have not been able to do it because we traffic cheap labor, and exploit people who will always ask for less than what a legal person would. We need to end illegal immigration once, and for all.
In the real world, California's population is shrinking: *_The Population of California Declined, Again_* _In 2022, the state’s population dropped by roughly 138,400 people, to 38.94 million._ NYT 5/8/23
I was born in the USA to third-generation American parents, and *I* left Florida for my own safety in 2009. It's a beautiful state, home to some of our ugliest hearts.
Considering that the majority of the United States was made up from immigrants from around the world, that is a solid truth you have said, @LiveInLove33
My mom was a migrant worker and its hard work. She was pulled out of school to go work the fields for the white farmers. She shares stories on how the white children of the farm owners would laugh at them and call them all sorts of names. She became a business owner and raised both me and my brothers with hard work ethics. I look at her with so much pride and how hard she work for our family. Im 57 and she is 77 and I cherish her stories. She said no one can work as hard as our migrants and those farmers will suffer and so will the State of Florida. Ron Dsantis has no idea what is to become of his state.
@@machupikachu1085 DeSantis made race and Latine ethnicity relevant to this by targeting folks-our undocumented new residents who happen to be mostly made up of Latine folks from our nation neighbors -I'm not Latine, myself.
This happened a few decades ago in oregon when Reagan pushed against immigrants. No one else would pick the berries or produce. The farmers lost big. Guess we have to learn these lessons over... and over... and over.
It's also happened in Alabama and Georgia, and a number of other states. All of them learned a lesson and changed their policies. And more than agriculture is at stake. Undocumented workers also work in construction, gardening and landscaping, hotel workers, and a huge variety of other jobs that depend on cheap labor.
DeSantis may also have an underlying agenda of forcing the agricultural land owners to sell their properties cheaply to developers once they are unable to pay taxes.
@@melindaunknown6411+ I don't think he's/they're planning to sell the land to China. They've passed a law prohibiting Chinese, Russians, North Koreans, Iranians, etc from buying Floridian land. My biggest concern is that they're hoping to force the smaller farming families off their land and sell to rich people. Costs in the state have gotten crazy high recently and many native Floridians are struggling/leaving the state altogether. I left the state and have been doing much better both cost and policy wise.
And the most braindead of those hatemongers will keep on voting for DeSantis, because "The state's having a bad time, but it's not his fault! They took eer Jawbs!"
Happy rotted fruits and unfinished construction, Florida! Send your thank you notes to Ron DeSantis and the Republican representative for your district.
@@1m2richand yet I've heard legal citizens are leaving as well. GOP dint care of you're legal or not, unless you're white. You will be picked up and detaned and deported.
@@missingno81 they were payi g maybe $20/day for a 12hr with or longer say with no breaks. Now they will have to pay min wage ($15.60/hr) and forced to abide by labour and saftey standards. Prices are going to be huge.
If they are in Florida (or the U.S.) illegally, then let them leave. They are more than welcome to return to their own country and drive with or without a license or any documentation whatsoever if that is what they prefer. It's simple- Get legit or get out.
Lessons for anti immigration agricultural states. As a white kid ag worker through my 20s, migrant workers worked laps around me on a regular basis. They are the only people that are capable of meeting economical production demands. They earn many times the pay they receive without question. How many hours, without a break, can desantis pick fruit in the sun or repot plants in a hot green house?
Poverty will make people work very hard. That is a human fact, it is the same for slaves and wage-slaves everywhere on earth and independant from time itself. It was true thousands of years ago and will still be true in the year 5023.
How can you respect people who don't want to fix or fight to save their country and are cowards coming to another country looking for welfare. The Palestinians, Afghans and Black Americans are runners and stayed and fought to keep their existence.
@@rondodson5736 Shouldn't it be standard to do honest work and not being a criminal? I dunno.. if I "greatly respect" those that perform at a standard level.. what is left for people that are actually exceptional? And what about the greatest humans ever lived like the biggest scientists/ancient philosophers and such?
@@ca8944Even the legal ones are leaving. You think they want to be harassed by the police every other hour to make sure they aren't transporting illegals. The cops will be doing it. So yeah, there goes your work force.
This law needs to be in effect so that employers do not take advantage of these immigrants and to make the immigrants get proper paperwork so they can get paid properly
I understand on both sides, but there are laws in the US, and these laws have been broken for many decades! ,I am hoping the governor can come up with a solution like a short - or long-term working visa for these illegal employees so they can work and pay their taxes .Their are approximately 30% of people in this country who didn't pay taxes !!! It's wrong .
"make the immigrants get proper paperwork so they can get paid properly" How when the same people creating this law is blocking other laws to make them legal. You can't want them legal and then stand in the way. It is sicking how hard it is for good people to become legal in this country built by immigrants who were illegal from the start Happy 4th
@@TarraMichell the black people who built this country were not immigrants. The illegal immigrants in Florida chose to come here. You supporting them, while they are pushing black people out of their neighborhoods.
I'm thinking about the construction industry, and after the next hurricane who is going to do all the roofing? Does he have a special pair of boots for that?
Heaven forbid if a MAGA MAGGOT's summer vacation home can't be built. Or their cars hit potholes and ruining the tires. Or they can't get good housekeeping services anymore and their lawns and gardens are no longer being taken care of by the Landscaping Companies.
Good reporting. I'm glad you pointed out that it is currently the growing season in USA and these migrants can move to other states for the harvest all the way through October. Another not-so-great Florida decision. How's that Disney lawsuit going Ron???
Border problems could easily be solved by streamlining the system. Simply offer cost-deferred visas and work permits, along with background check for anyone who wants to visit and/or work. This way non-citizens could be taxed to cover indigents, and law enforcement could focus on real dangerous people. Too many resources are wasted on redundancy. People crossing national borders are no more or less bad for the country than people crossing state borders. Population increase through immigration is just as good or better economically than population increase through domestic birth. The vast majority of people trying to get in could afford temporary housing to get started, but end up losing their life savings paying crooked smugglers to get them past our absurd restrictions. This is all counterproductive and just political pandering.
Your understanding of Latinos in Florida is shallow at best. Florida has the most diverse population of Latinos encompassing every strata of the economy and every shade of political persuasion. The Cubans in Miami you are thinking of are almost all legal immigrants, so the new law doesn't affect them.
It's called "Stupidity. I was surprised to learn that in pass elections. Unbelievable Ignorance. Somehow they think they are like the White million & billionaires in Florida. SHOCKING! Some had a little success (from Cuba & think they have arrived). smh! Walke up. Desatan is not for you.
@@gordonspears6320sure, but the majority of Hispanics in Florida vote Republican. That’s a FACT with zero room for argument. Diverse or not, the numbers don’t lie.
Wrong ! It’s consumers. Look at how they whine. When companies try and cut cost by cutting gas station attendants, put in ATMs, eliminate carhops, self checkout, etc. So many businesses have cut hours because citizens won’t work like this. We have been bring in pickers for ever in this Nation goin back to importing Chinese to build railroads and pick pineapples in Hawaiian Islands.
They're illegal immigrants they broke into our country we have laws against this the Biden regime is not following the law and he should be impeached for dereliction of duty.
DeMentis does not preach to the wise ,and it would be wise for him if he "woke" up , he would rather all Floridians to be as dumb and as stupid as he is , Florida GOT what they wanted , a fascist dictator who cares nothing for Florida except for using Florida as a stepping stone to the top job in America , and what we see now of DeMentis is what we would see if he ever got that top job .ya gets what ya pays for comes to mind ,,lol
Really ? Pretty amazing that the Biden Administration has let this invasion take place too , isn't it ? But they are letting it happen ...at least Desantis is trying to make some sense out of it .
They are way too replaceable to do protest. That's the simple truth. Know why people in poor countries don't protest? When they do, they get fired and hundreds of others swarm to take their place.
WGAF!!! You think All truckers are Hispanic??? LOL LOL 😮😮😮 Truckers are an AMERICAN industry!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 The Hispanics probably don't have real drivers licenses anyway!!!😅😅😅
I agree. They are trying to do all this extra stuff when the entire reason illegals are coming illegally is because the entire immigration system is messed up. I have personal family members who have been waiting over 2 decades to get citizenships. Most people aren't gonna wait that long. Especially if they are in dire need.
@@rondodson5736 You do know he crossed "several" state lines, all under the guise of helping these poor people (he lied to them, and made them sign a piece of paper), and yes there are laws against that, and to top it off, the Florida tax payers paid the bill
So did FJB,he put them on a plane at midnight and sent them to other states until Texas sent some WashingtonDC and Delaware and the Demonrats did not like getting a taste of their BS medicine Trump 2024
I hope the truckers follow through on that threat. DeSatan has got to be Stopped. It's up to the voters and for the Cuban/Hispanic voters to Wake up.....they don't love you!
Certain employers will pay to play while the government cracks down on smaller farmers until there’s only a couple of national conglomerates owning the market.
Finally, someone with vision. You get it. Meanwhile, the conspiracies about "Bill Gates owning all the farm land" spread amongst the right, in the most ironic way.
If you don't have legal rights to be somewhere don't be there. Borders are not a suggestion. I drive a car and need a licence. That is not a suggestion. It's saying you have to do this. I could be put in jail. So should people here illegally.
This only affects people who are illegal Immigrants, any Legal Immigrants can work. Its long overdue to rein in these employers , and take away the incentive to hire Illegal Aliens, because if these employers are hit hard in the pocket book, that will get their attention real quick, and also make them more cognizant of who they are hiring.
@@Mosie926 Well, if you need to have the threat of illegal statius to make someone work that sounds more like slave labor. We need to improve working conditions and pay a living wage so people who can't be threatened with illegal status are willing to work.
There's no consequences. The republicans got rid of a people who are politically in opposition to the republicans. They have anchor babies to stay here and then turn it into a expensive socialist / communist state like California where you have little freedoms and big government.
I believe they will be much happier in CA or NY. They entered illegally, they entered without the appropriate Green Card to work with documentation, they have no desire to learn to speak the language of the Country (English)
Mexico is full of migrant workers waiting to come here legally on H-2A migrant work Visas. We have been hiring them legally for years and have never had a problem with getting help. Most people don't realize we have legal ways of bringing in migrants.
I’m curious: why don’t these Florida farms hire legal workers. Is it really because they can pay them much less or is it because it’s difficult to get the farm worker visas?
@@kevinmalone3210 Exactly, most don't because they don't want to pay legal wages. We pay travel expenses, provide housing and pay them legal wages. Another thing is when they are hired legally they have taxes deducted from every paycheck. The one's hiring the illegals usually pay low wages in cash and they pay nothing in taxes.
People will work IF they get paid. If you want to pay minimum wage or less, you need to have amazing working conditions and perks. Perhaps you need to think about what you can offer these folks if you cannot offer them money. For example: Can you offer them food? housing? free transit? If you reward legal workers, they will come to help. You shouldn't use undocumented workers just because you think you can restrict human rights. This is corrupt profiteering and slave labour. We abolished slavery years ago didn't we?
I can't wait to see him on the news crying how buildings and homes and roads are not getting finished or even built. And how the crops in the fields are rotting and how tourism has dropped to maybe 20 percent of what it has been.
Well, the governor is showing everyone he is not woke by passing a bill that shows how racial prejudice and discrimination is alive and kicking in FL. PS: in addition to using e-verify of business of 25 or more, if an illegal immigrant seeks medical assistant they will need to be e-verified. Boycott Florida
The Farm owners in Florida are mostly conservatives who support DeSantis ....so when their farms go bankrupt they can thank themselves for voting for him.....they shall reap what they sow
@@undisputedtruth6176 Americans won't work those jobs. Why do you think migrants were doing them. See what happened in Alabama when they implemented a similar law in 2012. It was an economic disaster. Check it out if you dare learn the truth, bigot.
