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@escgoogle3865
@escgoogle3865 Год назад
Microshift and DiaCompe should be sending you a Quarterly care package.
@gregrobertson9957
@gregrobertson9957 Год назад
They would do well to have a minimalist silver themed set - heck it is "sword" at that, denoting some polished metal. This could fill the need for a neo-retro groupset for the 90' mtb revival scene.
@Guy1138
@Guy1138 Год назад
Sensah makes a silver lever integrated shifters. They even have brown hoods for all your retro dreams
@sunnysundaaaay
@sunnysundaaaay Год назад
Can't wait for this!! About to do a build on a Surly Midnight Special and was AGONIZING over the cost of Shimano and SRAM gravel kit, yay for accessibility
@stephenkohler3472
@stephenkohler3472 Год назад
Right? So nice to have such a solid third option.
@DevanSisson
@DevanSisson Год назад
Surly MS is exactly the bike I’d build with this group set.
@Fetherko
@Fetherko Год назад
I call the downshift paddle actuator the *flush lever*. "Hit the big hill, lost my momentum, quick hit the flush lever, hide the evidence! "
@minigunsniper
@minigunsniper Год назад
I live in California, and completely understand your reasoning about wildfire season
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Год назад
with over a 160K subscribers you'll have a handful of guys who complain, it's just a statistical fact. Most of us were pretty thankful to Russ for covering this group AND doing so this early. I dont think there is anyone out there who has done a review on this, who actually had his hands on it. I think it's a really interesting alternative to Shimano and Sram, not mentioning Campy. Having two distincts shifters for ups and downs make a lot of sense I think. Never having used either Shimano nor Sram I admit. Going to get my first dropbar bike.
@joelv4495
@joelv4495 Год назад
​@@maxmeier532ya, campy has totally abandoned the low end of the market, and with Apex AXS (still a $$$$ groupset!) it appears that SRAM is moving that direction as well.
@3wbasie
@3wbasie Год назад
Literally never been excited for a group set until now can’t wait to try it 😊
@sz1341
@sz1341 Год назад
3:56. “you’re all brilliant humans”
@coltonyoung6392
@coltonyoung6392 Год назад
I saw today that there is going to be a 2x10 as well. 46/29 to an 11/38 as an option. This Chanel and trying out a 1x gravel rig has me believing in the 2x now.
@kovar2344
@kovar2344 Год назад
actually a great unusual look. I like em! The big 3 has been uncontested for too long.
@jeffandersen6233
@jeffandersen6233 Год назад
Terrific informational video. Lots of specific info based on hands on use especially with the crank and chainrings. You're keeping them honest and focused. I love it
@JakeLuke308
@JakeLuke308 Год назад
Good on you Russ for checking out the backwards compatibility with the Advent derailleur. And good on Microshift for the nut it takes to make a move into shark infested waters.
@themoodyteam
@themoodyteam Год назад
Your enthusiasm coming through loud and clear 💪💪💪
@robertsandiford6223
@robertsandiford6223 Год назад
Why not show the shifting? I found a massive difference between GRX with Deore cassette vs GRX with 1175 (1175 is much much faster). Nice to see it in action for those interested.
@CharlieMetcalf
@CharlieMetcalf Год назад
Microshifts RU-vid channel has all the install videos for Sword and it should the shifting.
@alasdairlumsden670
@alasdairlumsden670 Год назад
Very helpful info regarding swapping AdventX shifters for the new sword ones, the AdventX shifting cable poking out the top is super annoying for bikepacking 😅
@robcotter12
@robcotter12 Год назад
Want to put this on my Poseidon Redwood so the shifter isnt sticking out the side anymore.
@fruissy
@fruissy Год назад
It would be interesting to know if these shifters are compatible with the "old" 10 speed Shimano components (RD-5701, RD-6700). Shimano shifters compatible with these derailleurs are no longer available 😢
@Csapi007
@Csapi007 Год назад
They're gonna sell tons of these built on new bikes. It's also good to have more options for tinkering and experimenting. However, I don't think many people will buy the groupset as an upgrade to their existing bikes.
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Год назад
Actually, I dont see a lot of new bikes selling with Microshift apart from overstock from 2 years ago. In cheaper bikes I often see something like a tiagra or sora, sometimes claris.
@UnliAhon
@UnliAhon Год назад
really interesting and promising drivetrain set, looking forward to it, keep em coming Russ with these content
@jedunboxing4127
@jedunboxing4127 Год назад
Matagal pa ata dadating sa pinas to
@mikegleim5241
@mikegleim5241 Год назад
"you're all brilliant humans"
@CharlieMetcalf
@CharlieMetcalf Год назад
The shifting ergo's sounds exactly like the AdventX shifter ergos. So as for updating it would be for aesthetics only ( for 1x10 ). For a 2x option this is the way to go!
@Ray.J
@Ray.J Год назад
Always nice to have options. Whenever you try something new there's always going to be an adjustment period. It's like when you get new prescription glasses and they seem wonky, but a day or so later they feel perfect.
@bryanschwertner3585
@bryanschwertner3585 Год назад
That shifter makes sense! E shifters and brake lever shifters are ok but just not what budget minded folks need. Thanks! Take care!
@Rafael-vu2xn
@Rafael-vu2xn Год назад
I really hope MS is a reliable option, Shimano, Campy and SRAM just handed them pretty much a billion dollar market share for free by abandoning mechanical groupsets!
@malvindang2084
@malvindang2084 Год назад
I've been using MS Advent and it's been reliable thus far. I can't see the Sword groupset being any less reliable than Advent.
@brendintosh6551
@brendintosh6551 Год назад
@@malvindang2084 I can second your experience. I had advent x on an older bike and loved it! The only issue I had was the cable routing but sword solves all that
@thomasalison6188
@thomasalison6188 Год назад
Can't wait for it to be released!
@gregrobertson9957
@gregrobertson9957 Год назад
My problem with Advent-X is the longer gear combo tops out too soon (small cog/larger chainring). It NEEDS another gear. I want for it every ride on my 650B graveler.
@brendintosh6551
@brendintosh6551 Год назад
Thank you for the follow up video on sword! Finding time to test everything during wildfire season is rough. I hope the wildfires stay calm for y’all this summer.
@NitsujWrenches
@NitsujWrenches Год назад
Picking a set up as soon as I can for my old Pacer gravel bike!
@user-zk8im3oz4k
@user-zk8im3oz4k Год назад
Handlebar bags. My experience is that long movement of shifters can often come up against a bar bag. Obvious solutions are to get a smaller bag and/or wider bars but it would be nice if you could make fuller use of the space between the shifters.
@pressaltf4495
@pressaltf4495 Год назад
now i wonder if it will work with shimano rear derailleur
@EriebyCycle
@EriebyCycle Год назад
I would appreciate the distinct difference in feel, and placement of the two lever buttons. I tend to get lost in them as rider that rarely rides drop bar bikes.
@m.talley1660
@m.talley1660 Год назад
Great work - both reviews. This group will be an improvement to Advent on all of the OEM bikes were it'll be spec'd
@danielrussell9416
@danielrussell9416 Год назад
The two buttons look like they may be difficult to use with winter gloves on.
@yateswebb
@yateswebb Год назад
When is it available to buy? Why can’t in find this info??! Lol
@senorspiegel
@senorspiegel Год назад
Definitely gonna upgrade my advent x set up to these brifters
@RidingBikesinSanDiego
@RidingBikesinSanDiego Год назад
You have me and a few buddies really looking forward to Sword. I'm going be thinking about it today while I swap out some SRAM doubletap shifters for the Falcon fiction shifters off VeloOrange
@Tancrad
@Tancrad Год назад
Baller as always, thankyou for answering a question i had in the last video about compatibility with last gen. soo stoked to pick up a pair of this when the release.
@mytwocoins
@mytwocoins Год назад
The levers look pretty low profile too. Nice when the “hoods” don’t remind one of the devil’s tower😉
@atthesummitMTBskills
@atthesummitMTBskills 4 месяца назад
Love my advent x 1x9 and when it comes to update would try sword - thanks for the review and update
@ec63580
@ec63580 Год назад
For the button distance, maybe they either wanted to make the two buttons very distinct, or ran into patent issues somehow?
@RiverCat999
@RiverCat999 Год назад
I love these technical videos and found this one especially useful. This why I watch your channel. Thanks for all the hard work you put into it.
@craigsmith5134
@craigsmith5134 Год назад
Nice, thanks for the update. Was really wondering about this or a sensah group set for a bike.
@michaelbrewster3553
@michaelbrewster3553 Год назад
Hey Russ would you say the brifters are a big improvement over Advent X? Thanks.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
Yes. Quantum leap.
@hazelnoisette4539
@hazelnoisette4539 Год назад
I'm really hype on this groupset. It's too bad/ maybe in the future the levers actions could just be swapped so the lower arm pulls and vice versa.
@Larpy1933
@Larpy1933 Год назад
So… GCN is your nemesis, eh? Understood. FYI: I don’t _ever_ watch that competing channel. Yours is vastly superior. Thanks. And good luck - fire season and all.
@matthewcole4823
@matthewcole4823 Год назад
I’m going to really enjoy saying “I gave that steep climb The Finger” (tm that, Microshift)
@joonaskekkonen5160
@joonaskekkonen5160 Год назад
Sounds pretty much like their Alfine 11 shifter that works brilliantly.
@arcoulant87
@arcoulant87 Год назад
If it cost less than £1000 GCN wont show it 😂
@n22pdf
@n22pdf 4 месяца назад
Awesome info and review dude.. :) Pete
@GeekonaBike
@GeekonaBike Год назад
I feel your wildfire concerns Russ, down here in the AZs White Mtns we've been through that rodeo way too many times.
@Colleenann61
@Colleenann61 Год назад
My concern would be how the paddles would work with heavy gloves for winter riding.
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Год назад
you're riding with mittens?
@MisterCOM
@MisterCOM Год назад
Yesterday i switched my gravel bike from shimano claris mechanical disc to 11 speed ultegra with rx810 levers and my live has been changed i can actually stop my bike now its way overpriced but hydraulic disc brakes for drop bars are amazing so i would rather go with the ltwoo option or tiagra instead of this
@nerigarcia7116
@nerigarcia7116 Год назад
I think since it's mechanical if you had to top button closer to the bottom that you might accidentally catch it when you throw the paddle in. Especially, because the top button is basically a click to release the tension on the derailleur, it would be easy to shift it back. Thus the gap in between. That's probably why Campy had the thumb shifter instead, better design. Designwise, that whole lever looks like a series of afterthoughts.
@ronbell7920
@ronbell7920 Год назад
I have used Microshift to replace failed Shimano 105 and Ultegra brifters. After getting used to the paddles, they function intuitively and reliably. Leaving me to question, why did I pay more for Japanese components? These are made in Taiwan, fit, finish, and function have been better than I expected and I have many years on three different units!
@randomsorts
@randomsorts Год назад
@@ronbell7920 good for you
@ziyanide
@ziyanide Год назад
Seems like a decent groupset, but pricewise it does not really hooks me. I would probably rather get an all mechanical groupset from L-Twoo or go straight to 1x10 GRX (if hydraulic setup is possible).
@raynerussell7998
@raynerussell7998 Год назад
Cool groupset for a cheaper just pedal around bike.
@michaelhayward7572
@michaelhayward7572 Год назад
Bloody hell! A brown B17 spotted on one of Russ's bikes!
@VeloObscura
@VeloObscura Год назад
If the shifters are backwards compatible with Advent X, then that must meant that you can use the Advent X MTB/flat bar shifters with the Sword derailleur..... 🤔
@maxab7e63s5
@maxab7e63s5 Год назад
Hope you can test how it feesl with canti and even v-brakes. Read that the lever pull is able to accomodate.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
I did that in the original video with cantis.
@MiserereMei
@MiserereMei Год назад
Quick comment: I wouldn't call these "brifters", because the brake lever only brakes, and the shift levers only shift; nothing in this contraption is pulling double duty (unlike on Shimano or SRAM brifters, where the brake lever also shifts). Microshift simply have a brake lever with shift buttons (or levers) behind it.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
That distinction is a little pedantic and I think most would disagree. By that reasoning Campy controls aren't brifters either. Also SRAMs brake lever doesn’t shift. It has a separate paddle. 🤦🏽‍♂️
@chrisclougherty1261
@chrisclougherty1261 Год назад
Russ, thank you for the video. It's great, as always. One question, in the future will you discuss or road test the 2x10? I am very interested in it due to the very low gearing of the 46-29, 11-38. Thanks very much, you do a great job!
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
That’s the plan. If it arrives before we leave for Spain.
@lukehendrickson3669
@lukehendrickson3669 Год назад
@@PathLessPedaledTV stoked!
@riccardo.lazzaro0411
@riccardo.lazzaro0411 Месяц назад
I wold use the rsx pro there is a new 12s model rn
@flashwashington2735
@flashwashington2735 Год назад
Thanks.
@johnwilkinson3880
@johnwilkinson3880 11 месяцев назад
What about that bar bag carrier on front of the bike?
@Maguiting
@Maguiting Год назад
I saw on the previous video that the 1x Sword didn't work with a 2x chainring. It would be awesome if the Advent X rear derailleur would work with the Sword's 2x version.
@b9904
@b9904 2 месяца назад
@carpetfiber101
@carpetfiber101 Год назад
Great insight! Thanks so much for the details and non press release. How are the ergonomics of the hoods just joking on to them and braking?
@peterharrington8709
@peterharrington8709 Год назад
And if you use a flat bar Advent X shifter (or a friction shifter...) you could still pair it with hydraulic brakes.
@bmwofboganville456
@bmwofboganville456 Год назад
at that point wouldn't it simply be the Advent X setup
@peterharrington8709
@peterharrington8709 Год назад
@@bmwofboganville456 could be either or both.... naming aside it's just nice to know there are options and a future in 1x10.
@jasonhirose8128
@jasonhirose8128 Год назад
Thanks for the update! I didn't see it asked in any of the comments: is it possible to shift up while activating the brakes or is there a lockout of the shifter when the brake lever is out of the default position? Thanks in advance.
@siimot
@siimot 4 месяца назад
Hmm liked the look of these until you showed the shifter buttons, will have to stick with my sensah system for now.
@dannyo2964
@dannyo2964 7 месяцев назад
Hey! So could you run these brifters with Shimano deores? My understanding is that you can use advent x with deore derailleur
@hambo76
@hambo76 Год назад
My only concern is with mechanical rotor brakes, I'd prefer hydraulic.
@TheAnon232
@TheAnon232 Год назад
Same
@509bunnyhaven
@509bunnyhaven Год назад
Stoked
@tmayberry7559
@tmayberry7559 Год назад
With GCN they will not even mention anything other than Sram or Shimano
@renecruz2842
@renecruz2842 Год назад
when and where will the sword components be available?
@jazzfan7491
@jazzfan7491 Год назад
very interested to see this show up on poseidon x ambition
@dsego84
@dsego84 Год назад
Sounds like it behaves exactly like my shimano sora but without pushing the whole brake lever? The throw of the longer shifter lever seems similar to the throw of the shimano brake/shift lever, just not integrated.
@sebastianszulc9946
@sebastianszulc9946 19 дней назад
Dziękuję za ten filmik
@034BAL
@034BAL Год назад
Russ will you be testing the 2X crank?
@alessandrouk2
@alessandrouk2 Год назад
Please test sunrace Cassette 10s Model Ms2 11/51 (Cogs: 11-13-15-18-23-28-33-39-45-51t) with Advent X
@patsmith3888
@patsmith3888 Год назад
Can you let us know the q-factor of the crankset?
@woodywoodverchecker
@woodywoodverchecker Год назад
Now I have to ask: do you prefer clicky or thocky mechanical keyboards?
@jason200912
@jason200912 Год назад
They should have copied Campagnolo thumb shifter
@Captain_Ron618
@Captain_Ron618 Год назад
Does anyone know if and if so which Microshift bar end shifter could work with Sword?
@jdar-design-motion
@jdar-design-motion Год назад
Thanks for the video. Where to buy it in the US? Can't find it anywhere. (looking for the shifters only)
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
Not available yet.
@jdar-design-motion
@jdar-design-motion Год назад
Got it - do you know when?@@PathLessPedaledTV
@user-cq4nq8ci9o
@user-cq4nq8ci9o Год назад
Very interesting. Keep safe>
@bikdav
@bikdav Год назад
Is there a front derailleur shifting option available with SWORD? I didn’t see it on your bike.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
There will be. Not out yet.
@krtong
@krtong Год назад
I'm swold.
@DanDanNo1
@DanDanNo1 Год назад
Currently have 2x9 sora with a weird 46/30T prowheel crankset that I never liked. Been searching for a 2x10 GRX 46/30T (170mm arms) crankset to replace the prowheel but can't get one anywhere, shimano say there'll be no stock till Jan/Feb 2024 in Europe... seems crazy! Reason for going this route is that down the line I'd have the option to go 10 speed in the rear with some lower gearing options, a clutch and maintain mechanical braking by using tiagra 4700 shifters. I'm happy with my current mechanical brake set-up and don't want to have to lay the bucks down for hydro GRX... enter MS Sword! Perhaps there's a reason I couldn't find the GRX crankset after all. I'll wait to see what price tag this Sword groupset has on it when the 2x10 becomes available. In the meantime anyone aware of an alternative "budget" 2x10 46/30 crankset plus front derailleur that is compatible with 2x9 Sora?
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
New Albion cranks. Did a whole video on alternative cranksets.
@DanDanNo1
@DanDanNo1 Год назад
@@PathLessPedaledTV thanks! I’ll check it out. Great channel & content by the way 👍
@gerald6656
@gerald6656 Год назад
Where can you buy this group set? I have done some light googling and it seems like it does not exist.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
It will come OEM on bikes but aftermarket isn’t available yet.
@DavidVidaurri
@DavidVidaurri Год назад
❤❤
@gregavolk
@gregavolk Год назад
Well, you've successfully converted me to a friction believer, so these videos feel like blasphemy :D
@Omnis2
@Omnis2 Год назад
This is just SRAM double tap, but broken up into separate paddles. SRAM Tap+Tap LOL. Does it downshift multiple gears with longer throws?
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Год назад
your statement doesnt even make sense. at all.
@tomreingold4024
@tomreingold4024 Год назад
What handlebar is on this bike? I might like one like that. Also, at some point, Microshift had a shifter that could be converted from 9- to 10-speed etc. Does this have that feature?
@justinarthur3773
@justinarthur3773 Год назад
Someone else can confirm, but I think that handlebar is a Ritchey Venturemax
@johnnycab8986
@johnnycab8986 Год назад
Sounds like it's more comparable to Shimano Deore...can it really compete with a groupset from Shimano that is about 300 bucks for the newest generation? How much is this groupset?
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
Deore don’t do drop bars.
@johnnycab8986
@johnnycab8986 Год назад
@@PathLessPedaledTV Sorry meant Tiagra
@bcmtnbka
@bcmtnbka Год назад
I can see having Sword in the future. Btw, do you prefer mechanical or batter powered watches. Just curious.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
Mechanical of course :). Digital watches are soulless just like electronic shifting :)
@bcmtnbka
@bcmtnbka Год назад
@@PathLessPedaledTV That's what I thought. and yes, I do prefer my mechanical watches over smart watches
@Grzegorz_Grabowski
@Grzegorz_Grabowski Год назад
What material is the lever made of? It looks like it's rubberized and that would mean it's gonna look bad in a few years.
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Год назад
rubberized? No I dont think so. Just matte plastic, possibly a little roughened.
@CRM08
@CRM08 Год назад
Can it be set up 2x? What is the tooth capacity?
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
Watch the first video.
@cynicalmonk870
@cynicalmonk870 Год назад
One word… Friction.😅
@kentjoosten8149
@kentjoosten8149 Год назад
Are these shifters compatible with Shimano GRX RDs?
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
No.
@pihgfdsssjjhhgfc
@pihgfdsssjjhhgfc Год назад
This Microsoft Sword logo oddly resembles the logo of ustashas, Croatian fascist movement from first half of 20th century. Contemporary Croatian ultranationalists also use stylized 'U' with a cross above it, that looks almost exactly like the MS Sword logo. I am sure that Taiwanese budget bike components company dos not have any secret agenda, but it's weird for me to see it around the internet
@Chungleas
@Chungleas Год назад
Hate to say it, but hydraulic brakes are going to become Microshift's Achilles heel if they don't start doing them at some point soon.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
I disagree. Why compete where others own the space. I think it’s better product differentiation to support mechanical at this point.
@Chungleas
@Chungleas Год назад
I know you're a fan of cable discs, I have some too on one bike, but the market is definitely headed one way, and it's a product that more customers want.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV Год назад
@@Chungleas those customers are served by all the major component makers creating a hole in the market. Why be a small fish in a big pond and get scraps rather than filling a niche. That’s like this channel. Im not pretending to be GCN. There are enough GCN lites but few channels that serve this niche.
@keithhunter3910
@keithhunter3910 Год назад
I'm all in on mechanical discs. I just replaced my Stache 9.6's Guide hydraulics with Klampers. My Ritchey P-650b will likely lose the XT hydraulics over the winter. I'd do the same on my Specialized Tarmac if it wasn't going to cost two arms and two legs to get Shimano mechanical brifters as well as Growtacs.
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Год назад
@@Chungleas I'm with you on this one, and I would be willing to bet 10 bucks on Microshift manufacturing a hydraulic levers option within the next 3 years. As a point against Russ', why pidgeonhole yourself. They can do mechanical and hydraulic, why just either or.
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