also when you apply for the licence if your application is refused you dont get a refund of the fee, and if they deem that there is a safer alternative to use they will automatically refuse application
@philipwhiteoak2386 that's really bad. Typical government. Pay for a license, don't get it but they keep your money for something you haven't got. Disgusting
Some festivals only allowed solid fuels so these were perfect. I've still got loads of these so will just use them up making brews as it's far safer me using them up than having them all piled together somewhere for someone to not know how to dispose safely of them
Its mad really. They should take it case by case, if you're camping and making tea then fine but if you've got stacks of it piled in a lock up along with plans of government locations then look into it
I wouldn’t worry if you have a few at home and use the odd one out in the sticks. It’s fairly unlikely M.I.5 will send a team of armed agents to cart you off.
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Cheers for chucking this information out there buddy I have one of these stoves, I wouldn't of had a scooby, next thing I know I could be in prison. love the content bud
Exactly. The government need to look at this on a case by case incident. Otherwise they need to ban knives, Bleach or anything that could do anyone any harm. Ridiculous.
Very informative Mike! Pretty sure the guy at the tip is just gunna sell them, It’s got to be a money making thing, how they possibly gunna police it 🤷♂️
@54DegreesNorth exactly. It can be used as an explosives so just monitor those that buy it with ID. If they're on the terrorism list then it's a no. Simple. Plus you'd need to buy tons of it to make any real decent damage.
I'm American and live in the states so, my comment is curiosity. The curious thing is this, is it illegal to own the stove or just the fuel? What makes the actual stove illegal? Couldn't you just keep the stove and turn in the illegal fuel? Wouldn't natural fuel sources, such as leaf debris, still be a feasible option? Or are the stoves designed in such a way as to not be reusable with a different fuel source? Many of the camp stoves that are available to us can use any fuel and in fact are designed to be used with natural fuel sources such a woodland debris.
In the video I not that it's the fuel that isn't allowed rather than just the stove. Thing is if you buy these ex military stoves they come already packed with hexamine which then makes the whole thing illegal. You can't really use wood for this but can use dragon fire cubes or gel although they are messy.
🙄🙄🙄 NOT the Folding Stove .. only the Fuel. 'Nannying' taken a step further! I presume that next on the list will be Nitrate Fertiliser and Diesel Fuel ..
Given that most people who possess these will only have a small quantity of them, it shouldn't take too long to dispose of them. I'd suggest burning them off in a controlled manner, one at a time, possibly using a folding metal support. While doing so it would be advisable to ensure that the flame is contained,perhaps by sitting a water filled pot above the tablet as it is burned off.
Who knows 😂 in all honesty though a lot of people use these at festivals and they are rife with plod walking around checking for illegal gear as nothing better to do.
Going back almost forty years, the hex stoves we had in our RN rat packs were next to useless, a nightmare to light and gave off as much heat as a fart. However, we were Royal Navy so were probably issued with the out of date stuff the Marines rejected! Still remember eating cold "baby's heads" (boil in the tin steak and kidney pudding - imagine a Fray Bentos tin without the sophistication) and cold tinned bacon on Dartmoor, that was the good stuff. After a few days we were so hungry we'd chuck all the leftover really nasty stuff in a canteen, boil it up and feast like kings. I've been vegetarian for years, but I actually quite fancy a baby's head right now...
I did say that you can still buy them online in the video. That's why it's bad. If you can order online you assume you are legally allowed to use it but according to the law you aren't. There are some websites that state you can't buy without a license but a lot don't.
@sydonthenet6631 no probs. The whole thing is ridiculous. Like most laws, they don't think them through. They've also banned battery acid so best get rid of your car as well 😂
Ugh dear. Anything that restricts freedoms has to be wholly within reason. Otherwise it's authoritarianism. And in fact a lot of the more authoritarian and scammy things that governments at all levels do are technically unlawful, if you know your way around the law well enough. Most people do not of course. In this case, if it were really that important to keep track of this stuff then they could provide licenses for free. Or certainly cheaper than 38 pounds. People would be much more likely to comply then. Because it would arguably be within reason then. Banning it seems a silly decision that hasn't been well thought through at all. Or at least not well implemented. Probably because no one actually cares too much or thinks it's that much of a worry. Either that or the layers of bureaucracy aren't in alignment and talking to each other properly in order to design a regulatory system that is more reasonable and more likely to fulfill its objective. In any case it's typical government overreach and abuse of power. They are supposed to be governing FOR us, not governing US. I mean, any democratic government. And all those little restrictions on freedoms add up, and then people do not realize they're in a straight jacket until they try to move a tiny bit outside the norm. So it's trivial but it's not. And I'm all for safety, if hexamine is really an issue. But then why make it quite so illegal? I'm sure the activity they want to prevent is already illegal. They can put a system in place to keep track of it without instantly making innocent people supposedly criminals. It's really not within reason
So just absolute rage bait title, nothing drives up engagement like outrage You said yourself you've had them for 5 years and never even used them, now all of a sudden its "youll be jailed got making tea" Amazing how people simply cant make good faith arguments anymore. Its all rage bait, hyperbole and common as much bollox
The law changed in October 2023 as I clearly said in the video. So I'm letting people know that may be in the same situation as me and have had them for years that now, they are not legal. Not bait, informative.
My go to fuel for my day out brewkit I'm sure plod won't be looking for me in the middle of nowhere while making my cup of highly illegal coffee 🤣 Crazy when you think you can easily buy a massive propane bottle, no questions asked 🤷
I thought I might have some of these in the shed, but it looks like I've fortunately used up my supply some time ago. Imagine getting arrested for something as quintessentially British as making a cup of tea! I now use the same type of stove, but I got some alcohol burning inserts for it instead of solid fuel, two of them fit in the stove side by side, it's pretty nice. I've been spoiled by the lack of soot burning denatured alcohol produces.
@@NoviceWildCamper They're unbranded, you see them on sites like the big one beginning with E and the other big one beginning with A and the one beginning with A that ends with express. Hopefully I'm being too subtle for the YT robot 😅.
If you don’t resist this kind of tyranny then you’re gonna have to explain to your grandchildren why you didn’t fight back when they are trapped in their 15 minute zones
Yeah, we don't really resist anymore, we just kind of let the government roll right over us. I got to be honest - I wouldn't even know how to resist, there's no training for this sort of thing.
Alright bud, that's mad I just googlye'd it and your right so I wont be using mines up next time I go camping..... I also wont be punching my neighbour next time he looks a my kids through a telescope either atb....
This is the first I've heard of this! I've got at least 3 stoves still in their wrappers I've had for the last decade when I use to work the UK festivals (and the same as you, never got round to using them)... I was even thinking not long ago to do a video using one of them... Glad I didn't now! 😡😡
@Yorkshireoutdoorsandsurvival people use them at festivals. Always plod around there. Anyway a lot of people would rather know than not, then decide if they stil want to use or at least make sure they don't use it obviously to then get fined. Information 👍
Meaning its only enforceable if you agree to the miranda interpretation. Ie, when they say "do you understand these lhese rights" that is a bi law enforcement contract. If you say yes you're agreeing to miranda meaning, giving consent to bi laws/acts. Never ever say "yes" or "I do" etc. Its all legalease bs. Very easy to trick cops into saying "yes" too. Ask them if they are speaking english. If they say they are, then they aren't lawfully uring legalease and again thus unenforceable. Ppl need to learn their real rights, they think taxes n shit are legal,...they aren't, most things are acts only.
I posted to let others know that don't know and then you saw me dispose of it. If you actually had the intelligence to know what clickbait was you wouldn't post this ridiculous comment. Try googling clickbait. It's when a thumbnail isn't relevant to the video but makes you click to find out. I'm so glad there's pathetic people like you that further emphasises the need to tell people when they might be doing something stupid. Like your comment 🤣
A custodial sentence for this offence is highly unlikely for a person found in possession of this substance in the circumstances of heating water or food! Making an IED then quite right!
