but shouldn't he have studied his route before even stepping foot into the helicopter?? I would think you would have to study where you are going and think of the best routes to get to a place before taking that risk.
Thanks. Take a look at my latest video for even more information. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html including newly released ATC audio.
This is a classic lesson to pilots of all experience to never become complacent. I was once told "this is the first time you have flown this flight", which basically means no matter how experienced you are what unfolds today is still something new. I always treated the airspeed during landing and the artificial horizon during instrument flight as things critical to life, because they are. Lastly, we must be aware of pilot workload and identify moments when our workload is increased. So, if we know we are turning our attention to navigation, we must realise that our attention on critical issues will now be impaired.
Nobody on board knew they were about to die except the pilot who for a second or two got to see the side of the mountain. Cant imagine how jawbreakingly scary those two seconds felt for the pilot and to the others on board i hope they didn’t suffer
@@sweetdeemdd9678 No his brain did not exit his skull. Read the actual report before you post nonsense www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Celebs/bryant,%20kobe_report.pdf
As a Helo pilot with 52 years and 28,000 hours experience I’ve seen this same scenario occur so many times yet pilots continue to put themselves into these situations
I am hoping that my videos will help one pilot make a different decision than they would have otherwise. You may find this new video which includes new ATC communications interesting: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
@@Bettyboop08 I'm a student pilot not for a heli but for a SEL plane. When you go into IMC, you can't even feel if you're diving, spinning, etc. You lose all sense of orientation, and thus must focus on your instruments to guide you, as well as NOT FLYING LOW in these conditions. I'm so sure Kobe would have wanted to fly low to show off lol.
As someone who didn’t really follow the story when it happened, I had pictured that the helicopter was flying in a straight line with a slight dip and just plowed straight into the mountain they thought they were above. The reconstruction here really demonstrates how much low visibility can mess with your sense of direction/orientation when you don’t pay attention to the instruments.
Spatial disorientation is a dangerous phenomenon. Here a video shows how easy it is to become disoriented when you don't see the attitude indicator and you can't see the ground out the window: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9ofStn2KScg.html . In that video, the pilot is flying while his head is covered and the attitude indicator is turned off, and he gets completely disoriented. He is trying to fly straight and level, thinks he might be banking to the right, and is actually banking to the left and descending. My follow -on video clearly shows that the N72EX pilot was disoriented: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
As a master helicopter pilot with over 100 years of experience, I can say with confidence that this crash would not have occurred if they hadn't gotten so close to the ground.
Man.. for that split second when they finally saw the side of the mountain right before impact, that shit had to have been breathtakingly terrifying. RIP Everyone on board 🕊
They are trained to fly that way usually... this guy was a veteran pilot... there is still no way to know why he was unable to fly through the clouds...
i use to get pissed when we would attend a flight briefing an hour before our flights. I would always say these dudes fly all the time lets just load up and go. The flight engineer and pilots would always go over the numbers (flight time, personnel, fuel, and training). Hearing about Kobe and learning about recent crashes from military helicopters has made me appreciate all the pre-checks and numbers the pilots and flight engineer put in! thank you 🙏🏽
Actually no. He had lost control of the aircraft. Can't fly a helicopter very far when it's upside down. His mistake was not slowing down and watching attitude indicator while climbing slowly to get out if the soup. Then contact ATC and let them steer him to a place to land.
Not really. Other pilots who flew that say above the clouds all say it was much higher. Also you dont get into clouds in without instruments. They were doomed long before they climbed. That was just a desperation last ditch attempt to save themselves.
Excellent recreation. I could never understand why anyone would get into a vehicle, car or aircraft, when they can’t see anything out the window. I drove my car in bad fog trying to get home. It was terrifying.
You said that you can’t understand why anyone would choose to do that but in the next sentence mention that you yourself have driven in bad fog before because you wanted to get home lol. so i don’t know what the superiority complex is about 😅
This is why spacial awareness is crucial. It was the pilot's fault for not paying attention to where he was going. As soon as you lose visibility you focus on the instruments.
He never realized that he had dropped hundreds of feet so quickly a sign of sure vertigo. It happens in military all the time. 20yrs. 101AA CWO4 avionics specialist.
@@novles6262 think about what he did, to put it better and in a way that you''l understand, it's like being on a highway with a very slight turn to the right, you're in the left lane, and you look at the GPS trying to configure it for just a bit too long. You'll see the railing you're going straight into only milliseconds before impact, nothing you could do.
Imagine how scary it would be not knowing if you're climbing or falling and then moments before impact you see that you're literally diving towards the ground. RIP.
I would have lost my tummy the very moment I didn't know whether I'm right side up. It happens to me in whiteouts, whether I'm driving in severe snowfall or briefly airborne on skis. I'd never pass a SEAL test.
Yeah, it's hard to believe that it has been a year, and I feel sad for all of the families who were impacted. FYI, if you haven't already seen it, I created a follow-on that includes additional ATC communications. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
I would like to sincerely thank you from the bottom of my heart for clarifying and enhancing the video of the horrific crash and subsequent agonizing death of Kobe Bryant. God bless you!
Thank you for the kind words. You may also be interested in my follow-on video with additional ATC communications that I obtained from the FAA: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
@@kazuhira9489 The pilot didnt didnt notice visibly but your body definitely can feel that drop in altitude. They all probably felt it like a drop of a roller coaster but by the time they could have possibly process the feeling that they were falling they'd be dead already.
Fr it wasn’t the pilots fault idk why so many people are saying “iT iS tHe pIolt faUlT “when it wasn’t the pilot couldn’t see anything any there was nothing he could do the pilot died as well. people in the comments are acting like they are professional or something
I had 20 hours of small plane flight experience and I still vividly remember my instructor demonstrating how disorientated you could get in a clouds, for example not realize you were in a turn or oriented funny and you need to watch your instruments.
I don't care how experienced that pilot was...It only takes one time to make such a huge mistake, and it's over.. His experience should have guided him to just turn around and go back before he got them all into that mess. This was senseless and completely avoidable.
It makes me angry that the pilot flew in such horrible weather conditions. This accident could have so easily been avoided. What made him think he could fly with such poor visibility? He was completely irresponsible. I would never ever fly in a helicopter, but Inwoukd have never gotten on a helicopter with those poor weather conditions. I don’t care how experienced the pilot was. 😡😡😢
The pilot was flying VFR ( Visual Flight Rules) which means he has permission to fly in those conditions but he chose not to go IFR ( Instrument Flight Rules) . He should’ve waited until the fog passed but as always there’s always a cover up and a hidden agenda to the story.
Thanks for the comment. You may also be interested in my follow on video which has ATC audio that I obtained from the FAA: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
Ok you are a genius. Brain crush!! I love it how you show us your process. I don’t think many people realize how difficult it is to do this. Keep it up I am subscribing.
Thanks for the kind words! You may be interested in my follow up video with time synchronized ATC communications: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html . I am now investigating the MU5735 crash, and here is some early work (read the video description for details) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1uSg1iggn6Y.html
@@the2kgvdz182 Sorry, but he didnt mean that. They could obviously notice the thick fog( and this gave them bad feelings, felt the danger. The guy said he is anxious even in a car in that kind if fog.
Rhythm Earth I don’t think you guys understand what she is trying to say. Not that they knew they were going to die but that thick fog is scary. If you ever have drove in it. Very unsafe feeling and I’m sure they felt it
As the British say, " In for a penny, in for a pound.", ie. whether the pilot was 10 feet or a thousand feet too low the outcome would've been the same. F.Y.I. - In the pilot's last recertification test or practice he had flunked one part of it. Want to guess which one? Yep. Flying under poor visibility.
If you read all of their autopsy reports and factor in the speed in which the human brain can receive and digest information, they didn't think or feel a thing.
I agree, on another video you can hear the pilot's voice in a very calm demeaner and in control, he never sounded in distress, I don't think he knew he was descending himself...
@@jjan2383 There was a body trunk or two intact with no heads, arms or legs, but mostly they were torn to shreds. What I meant was that even if a full brain had been intact, their deaths were so violent and so sudden that their brains could not process the information fast enough to know what's happening before death occurs. Couple that with a lack of situational knowledge (everything seemed ok) and they never knew what happened.
Jason Quiroz This is quite literally information, and you twisted it into a narrative that could be seen as offensive somehow. I'm fucking disgusted at my 9th grade geography teacher then, because she was just clearly exploiting my mind by projecting a map of planet Earth into my brain for her own benefit.
Incredible to think that this pilot was actually a CFII (instrument instructor) with ~13,000 hours. His daily life at some point involved teaching new students how to fly in the EXACT conditions in which he got disoriented and unfortunately caused this tragic accident. It’s scary how powerful complacency can be when combined with VFR-into-IMC induced spatial disorientation.
I agree, it is hard to believe. I have a better timeline in my May update ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html. In that update it appears that the helicopter is in a controlled climb from about 17:44:30 to 17:45:08. Then the helicopter enters a significant left turn and (I haven't published this yet) flies a flight path that produces exactly 1g into the seat (as though the pilot is flying by the seat of his pants). At about 17:45:22 the pilot notifies ATC that he intends to climb to 4000 feet, when the helicopter is in fact descending. That suggests that the pilot is disoriented and that for at least 12 seconds he didn't look at the attitude indicator. Difficult to believe. What could have distracted him for so long?
@@stevencondas2281 New aircraft maybe? What was his hours on that type of aircraft? If less, then it would take some time to enter the MCDU (computer) not to mentioned the level of stress. That's why it is better to have 2 pilots. One flying, one Pilot monitoring (or assist key in the input of the computer).
Drivers make the same mistakes, too. You get comfortable with it, get distracted one day, or the visibility is low, and next thing you know a deer goes through your windshield or you look down to grab something on the floorboard and look up to see you're in front of a semi. It happens.
@@stevencondas2281 One thing that distracted him was the confused ATC controller asking him to ident. That along in a high stress workload might have taken him 6 seconds to process and a couple of seconds to carry out. The ATC controller asked him this at the worst possible moment.
Great work. I flew over that area in Aerofly FS2 in VR and put visibility to zero. It was just like you showed form the cockpit. Freaked me the hell out. No way I would have continued forward flight in those conditions.
Thanks! You may also be interested in my follow-on version with additional ATC audio that I obtained from the FAA: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
Now we're all left with what if ? What could've happened if he the pilot turned back. They would be alive today. I seen many comments that said Kobe pressured him into flying that day. But they talked to another pilot who used to fly him and he said Kobe's number one thing was safety
My point exactly. i just can’t understand why was the pilot still traveling at a high speed if at some point he couldn’t see anything anymore ? 🤔 Excuse my ignorance I’m just trying to understand. Perhaps he just didn’t have time 🤷🏽♀️
Everyone has their Theory but no one knows what the pilot was thinking or about ready to do nobody was in that helicopter but those people that died that day so no matter how much you try to figure out why how come what if it was it happened it was their time .
@@gdlady9064 that's true. It probably was so fast and a split second decision by then it was too late if he realized he wasn't clear all the way through
Great work. I was in the airline business for 35 years, lost several friends in crashes, and my dad was a private pilot almost all of his life. These details always interest me. Thanks for sharing your private investigations.
This indicates to me that there's a better chance that they only suffered a few seconds if at all. I hope they never saw the ground coming since it was so quick.
@@certifiedchaos4643 Yes I know once they hit the mountain it was instant death. But I had always wondered if they knew they were falling to their death. With this video it showed there was about 2-3 seconds of the ground in view before the crash. Hopefully not enough time to even process what was going to happen
I have hoped that too. That it was quick and they didn’t know what was happening. I would hate to think that they knew what was coming. May the all Rest In Peace. So heartbreaking for the families.
I was thinking of the same thing. Especially, they didn't sit in the cockpit, the chance for them to know what was going on is pretty slim. That's the only relief we can have from this tragedy. The speed of the impact was abt 250 km/s I heard, it was abt the same to the neuron transmission, it might mean that the signal of death never gets to Kobes brain and his subconscious entered into the infinity loop, another dimension if there is.
The left and down theory on the joystick is probably what it did it. I don't think the pilot realized they were going left and down, because there was no visibility and he was confused. When the chopper got out of the fog to see the mountain, it was too late because they were moving over 100mph. RIP Mamba forever
RIP to Kobe Bryant, Gianna Bryant, Payton Chester, 13; Sarah Chester, 45; Alyssa Altobelli, 14; Keri Altobelli, 46; John Altobelli, 56; Christina Mauser, 38; and the helicopter's pilot, Ara Zobayan, 50.
Yeah I remember being in LA on my last year of college. My school holds a special connection w/ Kobe because although he never went there he apparently used to come all the time to practice on the same courts us students play on (UCLA). My roommate woke me up in the morning and broke me the news. I think it’s gonna be those moments where everyone remembers where they were when it happened, especially for those living in LA at the time
Thanks for kind words! You may also be interested in my follow on video with ATC audio that I obtained from the FAA: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
Remember we have backgrounds on JFK Jr's airplane crash in 1999 and Air France's Flight 447 in 2009, among others. Bad weather is a true factor of possible erratic reactions and spatial disorientation. Pilots, please don't defy bad weather, mother nature is wise.
If the pilot thought he was climbing and had no sensation he was going down, its fair to assume that everyone on the plane had no clue and where not holding each other screaming. They were probably just talking and suddenly lights out. If that's how it happened, at least no one suffered, no pain....its like one minute you are this world famous basketball player who is admire by millions, and in a blink of an eye you become history....like you were never here.
All the “should’ve, could’ve, would’ve” in the world won’t be bring 3 teenage girls and 6 adults back. RIP everyone aboard that helicopter 🚁 Let me clarify what I mean, because I’m being attacked for this post for weeks now: I feel like everyone is misinterpreting my comment. It was simply a lament on my part. Simply my expression of how sad and senseless I feel about the whole damn thing. No need to attack me.
No it won't. But, if it helps in TRAINING other pilots that OTHER lives will be spared, then it's worth their time they put in. When we KNOW better, we DO BETTER!
@@adeniyiibitoye2850 👍 Yes, the existing fog should have NOT allowed them to even go up in the first place. But what happens when the fog happens AFTER they are ALREADY up? Maybe there is SOMETHING that can be learned from the unfortunate mistakes here so they won't ever be repeated. 😥
Monique Knew agreed! Anything is possible and we need to prepare for it. The pilot was experienced but may not have experience in a fog. Breaks me to see a icon like Kobe die in a he most unthinkable way ever. All of this could have been prevented. Even loss the daughters and another coach/ father
Whenever I watch videos related to this topic my heart beats so fast just thinking about what it must of been like to be on that helicopter . I wish they never went on that helicopter that day, so sad. Praying they didn't know what was coming. REST IN ETERNAL HEAVEN all of them . Sweet Angels . You will be dearly missed.
@@bradbennett4237 yeah the impact was instant death but making that left turn... if the mountain bike saw the belly of the helicopter all the passengers fell to the side of the doors. So terrible.
@@prittyugly86 Someone said, "When you go into IMC, you can't even feel if you're diving, spinning, etc. You lose all sense of orientation, and thus must focus on your instruments to guide you, as well as NOT FLYING LOW in these conditions" I hope this is true because I can't imagine the fear they would have felt..
Oh my god I just realized that I used to live like a couple of miles away from where this happened. I can literally see my old house in the recreation at 0:57 that's insane I never knew.
It really doesn't matter how many years or how many hours you have logged. When you lose that spatial orientation (which can happen at ANY moment) due to darkness or fog, you better be able to fly by instrumentation or you are screwed.
Well said. Unfortunately, many instrument rated pilots lose proficiency through lack of practice, complacency or other factors. For his total hours, the accident pilot's experience in actual instrument conditions was paltry.
Wow. :\ My heart dropped watching this seeing the animated plane going down, just imagining how terrified everyone was during those final moments. My god :(
It's a helicopter, not a plane. No one was terrified. They couldn't see anything. In a fog like that, the passengers, as well as the pilots, had no idea they were descending. They thought they were climbing.
You guys the reason why they had clearance to fly was bcz Kobe's helicopter was a sikorsky s-76. Which has turboshaft twin engines and are big tanks equivalent to a small private jet. They carry up to 13 passengers. LAPD helicopters don't even compare. However it's ultimately the Pilot's responsibility to make the safest decision.
In a spiral dive the aircraft basically accelerate to freefall, if the pilot is not scanning the six pack and is pulling back on the stick then this feels like level flight inside the aircraft. It's insidious, because your senses will trick you very easily.
I was one of the mountain bikers that came across the scene. It was myself and 2 hikers. We tried to look for survivors but there was nothing but pieces. I am an instrument rated pilot as well and I can tell you I would not have been flying on that day. Clouds were very low. The search and rescue Helicopter even had a hard time finding the site.
It is possible that your claim to be one of the bikers is legit, but I don't see anything in your RU-vid profile that suggests your are a pilot or a mountain biker. Can you PM me at deterspam-flight@yahoo.com so that I can authenticate your claim? Thx.
Thanks for the kind words! You might also be interested in my follow-on reconstruction which I time aligned to audio I obtained from the FAA : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
As a pilot if your in a cloud where you can’t see due to clouds you can’t use your normal senses like vison and so forth where no meant to be flying you have to rely on your instruments and instruments only why didn’t he pay attention to his altimeter
Thank you for the kind comment. You might also be interested in my follow-on video where I was the first to get the full ATC audio (from the FAA) and combine it with a reconstruction: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
This was what I was waiting for ..thanks for this. It makes plenty sense how this tragic event happened🙏🙏 RIP KOBE GIGI and the rest of the people on board.
It is mostly a shameless video, with no respect for the dead people...All this for some click and some money... If you like it, good for you...Not sure that the families involved will like it...
Jesus. Basically the pilot couldn't see a single thing and his perception got all mixed up thinking he's going one direction, but was going all the way down to the ground
Thank you for making this wonderful video representation for us all to see. Such useful information and it has explained it better to me then any news outlet could! 😊❤️👏🏼
I feel like a dog asking this question, but I am not a mathematician, with a specialty in physics. With deepest respect to those who lost their lives, and their families and loved ones remaining, I've never been able to figure out how the final resting places of some of the victims happened. Gianna and one of her teammates came to rest northwest of the wreckage, almost parallel to each other, but some distance apart. Kobe came to rest almost immediately outside of the fuselage, as well as another female adult few ft north of him, while two passengers, one of the young players and the defense coach remained trapped inside. The father who was the baseball coach came to rest almost at a 90 degree angle left of the fuselage, but several feet away, then the pilot, still strapped in his seat maybe 80 degrees to the right of the fuselage several feet away up a slight embankment. Previous reenactments around the time of the accident, accounting for the witness view of the underside of the helo, positioned the helo upside down, as opposed to this scenario of a high bank position on its left side at impact. If so, I think the girls must have been ejected from the craft prior to impact. I am not a pilot, nor engineer; however, I do have 30 years' of experience of taking the testimonies of experts and others in the reconstruction of accidents involving different modes of transportation. The pilo comment referenced in the video of the possibility of altering somehow the controls when he leaned left is sound. It happens more often than you think. The operator drops something in a car, reaches down to pick it up, unintentionally putting pressure on the gas pedal, or rudder of a plane. It's speculation that may have been an associated cause of the accident with John Denver; when he reached behind him to try to switch gas tanks, he put pressure on his right foot. Sadly, in both of these cases, neither pilot or aircraft should have been in the air thos horrible days, and not because they are celebrities. John's license was revoked, and flying conditions using only vfr were unsafe, which was the only condition this helo was certified to operate.
Well said about inadvertent control inputs. One of the most important sj=kills a pilot should learn is lightness on the controls, especially in rough air and low/zero visibility.
Good visualization of complete death and tragedy. You are very good at what you do, diving in so deep into the darkness... make sure you have a safety rope tied around your waist when you go to these places so a friend can pull you out in case something happens. The comparisons were really educational too for those interested in seeing your graphic animation prowess growth. Keep them coming.
Someone with a heart. not just ohhh kobe my favorite, i swear just saw a comment saying" oh just if crona hapend before he died which would mean more people dead the under stupidity.
It was his time to go onto another life and experience his next love.. And now his life had fulfil his dreams and goals, it was already done. Link this to his goodbye basketball letter. he knew his journey and life goal was over, he's somewhere again giving his all for the next goal he has. GO KOBE!❤
Thank you. I've seen your work and your comment means a lot. You might be interested in my latest video which has some new ATC comms I got from the FAA: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_Dpm144KXo.html
Imagine you're just out on a hike one day and out of fuckin nowhere a helicopter just falls out of the sky. And then later on in that day you find out it was kobe. Imagine the shock
Ugh if he would’ve just flew up about another 100 feet he’d be out of the clouds...that’s f’n mind boggling. This whole thing is just beyond heart breaking and this NEVER should’ve happened!!! I’m just speechless...
Sad part is, the pilot was probably panicking once he lost visibility. Definitely knew it was a gamble that point whether he'd land the damn thing or not.
