In Defense Of Peter 

U just spoiled love is blind for me

I got the factors that led Peter to propose to Hannah Ann, it's just too bad the he didn't have enough of a backbone, and wasn't in touch enough with his own feelings to know that proposing to her wasn't the right thing to do.

He should have ran off with the bachelorette Hannah and been done with it. They both wanted to but felt guilty about other people. It would have been selfish but not as selfish as how this all turned out.

Peter was very manipulated by Madison. She was entitled to feel that way but she knew bringing it up before hometowns would potentially get her eliminated. Her family asked if she shared that with him and they were surprised that she hadn’t because it was so important to her. Peter was also very influenced by wanting to please his mom. She put way too much pressure on the situation. I saw it with Hannah B and Jed. They were both told by the families that it wouldn’t work out and that only brought them closer and defended their relationship even harder. What you resist persists, if you tell people it’s a bad idea, some part of us craves it so much more until we give into that base instinct to take it. I hope Peter finds his person.

You did a great job on this. You really have a gift. I am sure the producers and the people on the show always watch you. Great job. Always.

which is why everyone thought he was with a producer lol

Lmao so true

I looked up the producer and honestly, wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to sleep with her. She’s hot

It's all fake. No worries.

Think Story i think peter and his mom

@@KateCameron1 Imagine if Mike and Peter switched places.

@@njidekaike8356 if they did this to a black guy, the fans would utterly destroy them. That's probably the real reason that they haven't picked a black Bachelor yet.

@@njidekaike8356 I miss Mike so much ! What a better pick he would have been . Bachelor was stupid not to pick him and pick some Norman Bates type with the Mother from Hell !

I actually don’t think he got a bad edit. I just think he was THAT bad. Producers could have done him soooooo dirty in the edits. He just literally couldn’t make a choice and couldn’t stand up for himself.

@@Tinydancer0502 I agree !!!!

I agree 100%!!!

Hayley-Ann Jakubowski I completely agree. Well said!

Hayley-Ann Jakubowski had he ended up with Hannah Brown he would have dropped her too

Flower Power I don’t know if I agree with that! But we all don’t know how things would have ended if he did end up with her. I think it’s better to assume the best in people. But that’s just how I see it.

Flower Power -- Hannah Brown would have dropped him, imo. Peter is too indecisive for her.

Jess -- I don't think Peter was in love with any of them enough to marry.

@@davidcosloff I disagree. If Peter had been Hannah B's final choice, he'd have lost interest sooner or later due to the lack of the chase. He's not ready for marriage with anyone.

I think he's too immature for a real committed relationship. He has a LOOOOOT of growing up to do.

He’s still into Hannah brown

Jess he knows mommy love

Jocelyn Rose lol oh hi sis, fancy seeing you here 😂 I agree!

True. He needs to figure himself out.

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Hannah Ann said he manipulated her and played with her emotions.....

David Cosloff But at least I believe that he THOUGHT he did. ( And actually, I believe that he did - DOES!! He just couldn’t stop thinking about the other! Sabotaged by his ability to love more than 1 at once! )

100% agreed

It also didn’t help his cast consisted of a bunch of children

Haha that would be so much less frustrating! I'm pretty sure Peter's decisions would have been the same, though :/

Omg I've thought "what if they did this?" before...I think it would be sooo compelling especially if the contestants had no idea the lead was watching the footage!! I can't imagine how this season would have changed instead of all the she said/she said

How about putting in a Mansion Cam so that the lead gets to look in on the girls maybe like 2 or 3 times throughout the whole season?

@@lengl1125 yess! Or if the lead has a question about a specific altercation..they can see the footage. Like Victoria P. holding Aalyahs hand right after talking shit about her..or Luke P slamming the other Luke during rugby

Imagine how good the 2 on 1s would be if it was actually like a trial and one person could just pull out footage and show the lead what happened.

It was also ALOT less stressful on Hannah’s season!

Wow this is true!

Had he ended up with Hannah B , he would have cheated on her eventually

LaR. Periodt

jidf32 💯

What did you expect? Him to call girls out for all their bullshit? You know how much people would bash him for being “misogynistic”? When the bachelorettes do the same thing to the guys and it’s “empowering”? Why does no one bring up that double standard?

@@muscleman482 haha. wait. So you saying Peter would have been bashed for calling out the ladies for doing what frustrated even the audience? Who would have bashed him when everyone and their momma was tired of the petty drama? Other bachelors have had to deal with drama too. How come they did it waaaay better?

jidf32 Barely any Bachelors have done that. If a man talks to a woman in a “put your foot down” kind of way, everyone pulls the “don’t talk to women like that” card.

@Savvi C No he wouldn't. Everyone is in agreement that this was a catty, immature cast of ladies. You guys are somehow claiming that there is never a way or time that is acceptable for a man to call out a woman on the show? that is just not true. No, the whole season was panned for him rewarding the drama.

Hermany Diaz 😭😂😂 but hannah ann isn’t dating anyone though?

Muniira Yassin, it’s just a rumor but she’s been spotted a lot with some football athlete getting really touchy and comfy

Hermany Diaz yeah i heard about that but im pretty sure they’ve been friends for years & it was like a week before the finale and they’re both locally famous so i don’t think they’d make out or flirt 😂😂

Muniira Yassin, oh fuck 😭...in that case what is something that’s going good for Hannah Ann to show that she’s doing well because all I had for her was the rumors of her dating the athlete...anyhting to show that Peter is losing so much for the stupid decision he’s made on the show

Harrison said, Hannah Ann is already in Paradise......Waiting to find her love.

Victoria P turned into such a huge villain with the whole Alayah deal

I got bored and skipped most of the show. What did this Alayah girl do?

@@thedarkphoenix1640 she didnt do anything. Her and Victoria P are friends and then Victoria P told Peter all of these lies about her and that she barely knows her and everything.

ikr and all the girls were being so ugly to her on her last night there! like who told y’all it was ok to treat someone like this?

yeah they gave her such a bad edit it's not even funny

They often end up with crazy women who destroy them. Happened to me.

I'm done w/ any of the new shows by the Bachelor. There getting to redicilious and weathy, rich, paper thin woman that doesn't really have what a normal single woman goes threw being single n alone.

Dylaina Swan A lot of Christians are like that, but aren’t virgins? He can’t read in between the lines when she’s not very specific about things sometimes.

I agree, but she should still have been more assertive.

Better question, if she knew that is such an important thing to her, why did she sign up for Mr. 4times-in-a-windmill?

But her position had nothing to do with her saving herself, it was her demand that HE save himself from that day forward, or she was out.

I feel empathy for both of them. But I don’t think he could just assume Madison was waiting. Hannah was also very Christian and she was into sex.

Yeah we got trashed this season

I kept thinking he looks like a half dead mouse that a cat has been torturing.

He looked like a man who had been. Through. Some. Shit.

According to Reality Steve, Peter is a player too.

Savvi C C’mon you know what I meant as being a player. A person who cheats and sleeps around is a player. Playing with women’s emotions without the intention of commitment etc. His family is a joke. Her moms passive aggressiveness on her insta and the woman bashing the brother does as well. Yes! You read that right. He made fun of Madi’s lashes. Ever heard of his ex gf before hannahs season that just got dismissed? I guess they didn’t make it a big deal since he didn’t win Hannahs season. He got scouted and once he was a candidate he removed all traces of evidence. Even as far as unliking her pictures. If he was a woman pleaser why didn’t he go after Madi? Why did it have to be set up by Chris? Why didn’t peter say he was in love with Madi when he broke up with Hannah Ann? Why did he act single after the break up cuz wasn’t he suppose to be in love with Madi? Why was he caught partying with women? CUZ HE IS A PLAYER!

Savvi C reality Steve spoiled Alayah stuff way before peter said anything about his season going unspoiled.

Savvi C So you don’t think messing with people’s emotions doesn’t label you as a player? He promised the ex an engagement and moving in together. Talking about building a family etc. People dismissed it cuz he had that good guy persona but all of that unfolded in his season. How about him being caught publicly flirting with women right after Hannah Ann’s break up when allegedly he’s “in love” with Madi. The aviation world is small darling. I know people who know him from Delta. His brother and I went to the same flight school too.

Savvi C By trashing his whole family what do you mean? Seems to me it was all true and he backed it up with screen shots.

Took the words out of my mouth. I don’t know how people don’t see this.

Yeah, I couldn’t date a Peter. For many reasons. I don’t like his personality for one. But outside of that, guys like Peter are “nice” but I wouldn’t trust him around other women.

I hundred percent agree. He definitely got way off too easy.

Exactly, thank you! Madison getting a publicist so soon after the show ended proves that she’s in it for the fame. I think she went in hoping to be the next bachelorette.

@@Lizzie-ve7kt I can't believe nobody could see thru her, she fooled the Public AND Peter. The religious card only works if you are truly in love, like Sean and Colton. She couldn't even look at Peter or say she loves him. Oh well glad she didn't make bachelorette.

And that's why nice guys burn down the village. They entertain evil

I agree: He's a player. With his "nice guy" image, and seemingly innocent persona, hes gotten away with it, also, the Bachelor "role " of exploring relationships.

Right!? He was soooo gross! My Spidey sense was tingling the whole season. It just felt like he was lying the whole time and didn't really care about any of the women.

Very. So he felt he had to "explore" even if that meant sleeping with some, smh

don't go to ben higgins for advice lol go to sean lowe, colton, jason and arie- some made mistakes but ended up with someone on the show

And some herpes

lexa rae Ruesga peter was still a fan favorite though regardless if people were heavily campaigning for mike. he was so sweet and lovable on the bachelorette... very much similar to jason/blake/colton’s bachelor situation.

lexa rae Ruesga MIKE FOR BACHELOR

Lara Castillo amen!

Madison took one for the Team.......Again, trying to save Peter from drowning.

Bingo! Colton was very up front about virginity from the start. No ultimatums or surprises

you are right. He is not bad person but.. But. Sometimes when you are to soft, the result is hurtful for everyone in your envrioment. He didnt want to hurt anyone, so he finished hurting everyone.

Agnieszka Pechan I agree, he hurt a lot of people including himself. He cares so much and leads with his heart, and I think he is truly sorry for his mistakes & hopefully his next relationship is successful.

xoxoxoxoxc exactly, we know nothing about them so i feel so wrong judging them and labeling them all these things, such as narcissist, psycho, manipulative etc (bachelor fans use those terms so loosely). while i don’t agree with their actions this season and think they could’ve handled things much better, people are not always going to get along or like each other, it’s natural. people with obvious differences in how they process and handle things are going to clash, just like tammy and kelsey. we only saw their worst sides like tammy and sydney’s big blowup fight at the costa rica rose ceremony, they ended up laughing about it and apologizing to one another off camera (they talked about it on IG live). with how cordial all the girls are after the show, i don’t think it’s fair to hold things against them when they’re learning and growing from their mistakes. VF is surely something... I hate how she acted towards Peter at hometowns & I don’t know if those homewrecking rumors are 100% true, but she carried herself well at WTA, so I think there’s room for her to grow & she has all these friends & if she was truly terrible, I don’t think she’d have them. we only see what producers want us to see, and they can manipulate sound bytes and facial expressions to make a person look bad. production is the true evil of the season, we saw nothing lighthearted and goofy from the girls & i hope they’re able to showcase their true personalities and hopefully stay away from drama within each other if paradise happens this year, i won’t care if they argue with someone from a past season. just no more drama between B24 girls please 😭

which is what we all needed 😭 i little part of my soul died with this season

Maybe a little bit too harsh of a comparison but Madison was the female version of Jed this season. 100% in it for fame with zero intentions of marrying Peter. And it mostly worked due to how easily manipulated Peter is.

@@rootstorising7348 Why did you copy someone else's comment?

burningtreebelle girl I clicked and was gonna watch until I saw it was over an hour 😊

Sean Speaks in ethnic families, unmarried children tend to live at home until they are married. him living at home with his mom has nothing to do with his readiness nor the decisions he’s made... yeah barb was very harsh at the finale, but doesn’t mean she did a terrible job raising him. they adore his little brother’s girlfriend and he doesn’t live at home (as far as we know). personal choice, and he’s a pilot, so there’s no reason for him to have an apartment if he’s never there.

Living at home is part of his culture and he is a pilot who travels a lot. Living at home =/= bad decisions.

Gabe De Sousa eeets okay

The only saving grace of Juan P was that he didn't give in and propose. Peter would have come off a lot better if he hadn't proposed to HA.

mike is a good person and can hold his own, but i find it so funny people think his season would’ve been less dramatic when he often dipped his feet in drama during HB’s season and BIP. would he have had a happy ending? probably... but don’t underestimate production’s influence they do a good job at pretending to be leads and contestants friends then treat them like shit soon after.

Neal Fowler ok but if she was confident in what she believed in she would not have told him at the last moment. If she would have said something earlier, there would be nothing but respect because she is showing him who she is. And she is showing him her beliefs and feelings. But her waiting so long makes it seem like it’s something she wants to hide from the world, and from Peter (possible future husband). Along with that telling peter that their relationship/her respect for him is on the line if he sleeps with anyone else shows that she is toxic. Being a virgin is ok, but the way she went about everything was not .

Hazelz exactly! Like in the finale she said that she has unapologetically been herself but she WAS HIDING this major thing about herself that she’s so called proud of. It just didn’t make sense. The show didn’t stigmatize her virginity... Madi did that herself.

LMFAO

Now that's a conspiracy theory! :)

Tina T How did Madison played him?

How exactly did Madison play him? If anything, he played her, Hannah Ann and Victoria. Peter is the player!

*Madison had her strategy.* Remember, it's just an opinion. I've posted this opinion on this site and others before. Madison sure got over him quickly enough. 1. Plumping up her Instagram with her own posts or having people helping her. It just makes me wonder what her motives were for going on this show in the first place. These two people are great people but so different. 2. Initial meeting--Showing up in a big paper airplane and long red dress to make a big impression. Nothing wrong with that. But Do Not tell me she or her family didn't know about him prior to that entrance. She knew about him and his reputation. One girl wrote me back that Madi couldn't have known who the Bachelor was going to be beforehand because "they" don't tell you beforehand or no way she could have known. I don't think so. You're always free to leave. 3. She was fortunate to get the first one on one date with him and his parents. She was not curt with them, no hesitations. She didn't make anyone wait. It seemed like the perfect time to get to know him and his parents, make a good impression. The parents, I'm sure assumed she was okay with Peter and the windmill saga. Nothing was said of having high standards or saving one's self. 4. She stayed out of the fray. 5. Kept the mystery about herself through more and more one on one time with him. Any time she could have revealed saying saving herself for marriage. Silence is golden through the drama. Top 6! Yay! 6. Hometown dates...show off parents. Everyone knows the big secret. Calculating the time to reveal. Keep him interested. Be reserved. Don't show your cards too soon. She stayed silent. 7. Okay! NOW! Rose ceremony! Let him eliminate #4 because she knows it's not going to be *her* elimination because playing "hard-to-get" gets them everytime! Pull him aside right after #4 gets sent away. Private time to tell him what the rules*are going to be going forward. So...*Sitting* comfortably, take an inordinate, exhaustive long time to get it out. Make it look like it's painful and hard to get it out, after all, "this is my adventure, too." I have standards and this guy is soooo sexual! Just what I've always wanted and have been saving myself for all my whole life at 23yo. ( BUT bonus that it's on national TV!) Not happy with these other girls in her way. Seal-the-deal already. Serious talk. Getting down to it....with lots of "likes" "pregnant pauses, slow mouth movements, drag it out so it is barely comprehensible to him. Once it comes slowly into his consciousness about what exactly she is trying to say, he repeats it, although much quicker. She realized that she can't say it too quickly, it will sound too demanding and he could get angry, she risks elimination here. Meanwhile...NO matter that other girls are *waiting* patiently, nervously standing at attention in an airplane hangar in high heels wondering what she could be saying to him after all this time. *Waiting4Madi#1* (To be continued...if necessary)

Madeline Lopez FOR REAL😂

Be Happy His family is doing just fine. Barb was harsh in the live part finale and should’ve saved her strong opinions for when the cameras and mics were off.. You know, private family discussions. I’m sure Madi’s family wasn’t too keen about Peter either despite what they say on social media. I don’t think that makes her a bad mother because while yes, she should’ve supported her son in this (while imo, i don’t think he wanted to pursue madi after breaking things off with HA) but at her very core, the message and concern was peter getting his heart broken (by madi). i’m sure any mother would be discouraged upon hearing all the turmoils their son went through & the fact one of the women wasn’t in love or ready for what peter wanted. she is not a bad mother entirely & it’s obvious he grew up in a very loving and safe household where he is able to share things without judgment, like his sex life. lack of decision making is all on him & i don’t think he lacks confidence though as a whole, sometimes doubting your choices doesn’t mean you’re not a confident person overall. people have bad moments. his mother wasn’t in his ear all season & she didn’t hold a gun to his head to go about things the way he did. parents are always there in the final week to give their opinions & more often than not, leads go with who their parents disagree with.

@@sakura360ify You can live with a loving family and still have a manipulative mother...trust me.

Be Happy oh believe me, i know that. i agree family influences your decisions a lot and can make you feel defeated and not confident sometimes, but i don’t think it’s fair to judge his upbringing just because his mother was particularly harsh about him pursuing someone that wasn’t at the same level he was with them.

@@sakura360ify she basically humiliated him. There are better ways to approach discussions like that (especially on live television) as a parental figure. The father didn't do much either, she even asked him to help her in Spanish. He probably didn't want to piss her off because he is married/lives with her.

Be Happy oh i agree. live tv was not the place to share opinions like that & should’ve been discussed in private. i do think the father was convinced to say something at the finale but he didn’t say anything new, he still had the same opinions he had at the meet the parents date. all in all, everything shouldn’t have transpired the way it did on live tv.