In Defense of the CFL: A Retrospective

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It really was a bright idea.
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@TechnologyConnections 3 года назад

Maybe I'm reading the room incorrectly, but a lot of people don't seem to appreciate these wonderful little pieces of lighting history. They certainly had flaws (one I overlooked here was that larger wattage equivalents required the lamp itself to be physically larger) but so does any stepping-stone technology. I want to clarify regarding the flaws fixed by their successors that LEDs can still be prone to premature failure, but it seems more often than not that happens thanks to a manufacturing defect. If you buy a whole bunch of the same lamp perhaps after a few months some will have failed, but the rest will likely stay in operation for years. Look up the bathtub curve if you're interested in that phenomenon. And, somehow, I missed perhaps the most important thing about them. Compared to incandescent lamps, they used 1/4 the energy! LEDs are routinely besting that today, but being able to cut lighting costs by 75% made a big difference. And when you found a sweet-spot application for a CFL, you probably didn't need to replace that lamp for years. So stop hatin' on them!

@TheSilentCartgraph3r 3 года назад

Heavy toxic metal proliferation is not worth it, TC. You should know that nobody would dispose of these correctly.

@TheSilentCartgraph3r 3 года назад

Any climate impact offset by CFLs was not worth the permanent mercury pollution in the air, water, and soil.

@5Andysalive 3 года назад

@@TheSilentCartgraph3r That must have been tiny. Given the size and the lifetime. At least for the small home ones. After all we were fine with literal (and metric) tons of lead in the air for decades. Which is about as toxic as mercury. Quite intersting story behind how that ended. It took more than a slow and harmless fading into history. Involves the guy who measured the age of the Earth. (and couldn't because the air was full of lead). And a LOT of lawyers (in the story, not the air).

@SlyNine 3 года назад

I enjoy them. But I don't like walls of text.

@virginiahansen320 3 года назад

I think you got a lot of broad-based opposition to CFLs. You had left-wing environmentally minded people hating them because of the heavy-metal issue, and you had right-wing libertarian/conservative people hating them because they were being forced on them by the government. Combine that with some of the other issues with them and it was a recipe for everybody hating them.

@eynorey 3 года назад

TIMESTAMPS: 0:05 1 CFL bulb on set 1:08 2 CFL bulbs on set 5:04 4 CFL bulbs on set 5:39 6 CFL bulbs on set 5:51 8 CFL bulbs on set 6:24 10 CFL bulbs on set 7:15 12 CFL bulbs on set 7:54 13 CFL bulbs on set 9:26 15 CFL bulbs on set 10:06 17 CFL bulbs on set 10:37 19 CFL bulbs on set 12:19 20 CFL bulbs on set 12:48 21 CFL bulbs on set 14:12 23 CFL bulbs on set 14:53 24 CFL bulbs on set 15:00 26 CFL bulbs on set 15:54 27 CFL bulbs on set 17:43 30 CFL bulbs on set 18:21 32 CFL bulbs on set 19:02 34 CFL bulbs on set 20:19 37 CFL bulbs on set 20:45 39 CFL bulbs on set 21:18 41 CFL bulbs on set

@user93237 3 года назад

Loving this.

@johnweber4504 3 года назад

there's something inherently funny about how the amount of bulbs slowly started increasing over time

@Gomisan 3 года назад

yup i noticed that too.. was counting as I watched :)

@camrouxbg 3 года назад

This is what I've been looking for.

@GuiSmith 3 года назад

I realised they were increasing and now I’ve found this. Can’t wait to see the full majesty!

@bigclivedotcom 3 года назад

The most admirable thing about CFLs was the circuitry, which managed to keep running an electrically horrible load while being baked to the point of turning brown.

@jameswalsh5683 3 года назад

the plastic of those bulbs spent about 5 minutes being white

@StevenRides 3 года назад

Literally just passed the part where you're mentioned Love your vids too!

@AndytheWhite 3 года назад

We could all learn a thing or two from the work ethic of CFL circuitry.

@joannaatkins822 3 года назад

Fancy seeing you here, I should have known you'd be up at two in the morning commenting on lightbulbs ;)

@SagePatrynXX 3 года назад

Had at least two catch fire or began smoking. leds not a fire yet I said yet unless I stuck a 110 lamp in a 230 :)

@pilotpr0jekt883 Год назад

The best use for slow starting CFLs is in the bathroom when you get up and are tired and your eyes hurt and you start your bulb and it takes 2 minutes to get bright and your eyes can adapt to that better than 0,01 sec. LED.

@kholdstare90 Год назад

100% Also great for late night bathroom trips as I could be in and out before the light stops being dim.

@TheSimoc Год назад

Actually, Alec had a fundamental misconception about "instant-start", it's "annoyance", its actual effect on startup time, technicals, as well as market influence. (Topic on video at 13:00) First of all, no-one actually hated the second-or-couple delay while preheating electrodes. What more people hated, was the *minute* of dimness while mercury was vaporising. And the electrode-preheating model actually somewhat helped to speed up that process, not much though. The reason of the so-called instant-start model to take over the markets, was purely the lower cost of manufacture. Unlike implied by Alec, the instant-on model wasn't fancier circuitry, it was exact opposite - it was the very same circuitry but *crippled off* of the PTC thermistor making the delay for turning on the discharge voltage between electrodes. It was notable that (some) good-quality expensive brands were in the end the only ones having the luxury of electrode pre-heating (or in technical sense rather a delayed firing of the tube discharge voltage). In early 2000s, Osram even had two product lines: Longlife and Economy. They were otherwise same but the Longlife had the preheat and was a little more expensive, while the Economy was cheaper and "instant-start". In earlier stages of development, the preheat, along with better quality in general, was more common even among cheaper ones due to typical market dynamics - when new invention gets into markets and mainstream adoption, it is usually brought with good quality by all providers, and when markets "mature", more and more lessened-quality cheapo players come into field and finally even the quality brands tend to lower their quality while cutting costs to stay competitive against cheapos, and all this becomes even more cruel when the technique of the product is becoming obsolete. You could see very similar quality trend with, say, VCRs. When they came to markets, even cheapo brands were of fairly good quality, then came crappy cheapos, then even quality brands got worse, and in the 2000s when the VCR as a technique was becoming obsolete, there were nothing else than flimsy-plastic-crap models anymore. Edit: To clarify the technicals about the "instant-start", it didn't, unlike Alec implied, use any higher startup voltage for discharge than the electrode-preheating model. Both use an elevated voltage for startup though, just like any fluorescent lamp setup. But the point is, that also the "instant-start" model works principally exactly similarly by preheating the electrodes to be able to start it with very similar startup voltage, only difference is that the intentional, beneficial delay has been left out from those cheapos - instead they let the gas discharge to fire up immediately when the electrodes have gotten pre-heated *barely enough* to fire up the discharge. Which means they are not completely heated up and thus, due to lower level of thermionic emission, causes some entire atoms of the electrode material to be pulled away along with the electrons by the startup voltage, thus causing significant premature wear for them. The idea of the few-cents-costing thermistor, on which was saved those cents in "instant-start" cheapos, was that when turning on as "cold", it served as a bypass for current to flow trough electrode pre-heat circuit, during which keeping the discharge voltage (between the electrodes which at the moment are connected to each other through that thermistor) clamped down, until the thermistor heated up in the second or two due to that current through itself, making its resistance to raise, transferring the voltage from the preheat circuit (through the series-connected electrodes) into between the now-essentially mutually-disconnected (as the thermistor resistance has risen into next to "disconnected") electrodes.

@maukschilol Год назад

Guess it depends on the person. I always hated the delay until full brightness in the bathroom (even at night^^)

@lXlDarKSuoLlXl Год назад

That really sounds like a non issue mate, you know you got eyelids, right? You also know that those eyelids are not discrete but continuous aperture right? You also know how late at night, you really don't _want_ to have your eyes very open, right? Then there's also the elephant in the room in which, you don't really look at the light bulb when you turn it on 🤔

@greggbarrett7117 Год назад

Not dimmable at all, no matter what the package says.

@SexyEarHair 9 месяцев назад

I remember growing up and feeling so excited when i could replace a normal bulb with the "fancy ones" that were better. Felt like a milestone to me or something

@krillza 3 года назад

I love how, over time, more and more CFLs remain on his table.

@wallaceragsdale6203 3 года назад

Lol i was searching for this!

@beartankoperator7950 3 года назад

41 i think at the end including the one in the lamp

@rob_i208 3 года назад

Can't find any place to dispose of them.

@arisacharya4895 3 года назад

@@rob_i208 Lowe's will happily recycle them talk to customer service or the electrical departments for more information

@valorantgamer9726 3 года назад

I've commented with timestamps. It does indeed end at 41

@Carlos-ux7gv 2 года назад

I'm from a poor country. My first job was near a lamp hardware store (it sold bulbs and fixtures). Every paycheck I got there and bought one or two CFLs to replace the incandescent bulbs we had at home. The change in the electric bill was measurable and it was among the first things I did to improve my parents home.

@FlightSimXtreem Год назад

Your a good person Carlos

@davidcobra1735 Год назад

You're kidding right? The saving's about 10% in a country like Canada and that's just for lighting, not the total electrical bill, so basically nothing. Do you live in a country on the equator or something? "Economic lightbulbs" are only really economical in very warm countries. Actually even looking at it like that is very stupid, they're basically for office buildings, garages, public venues, anywhere you need constant cheap light but don't want heating. At home they make almost no sense but the damn technocrats in government made us use them.

@Carlos-ux7gv Год назад

@@davidcobra1735 I live near the equador, yea. So, yes, most of our electrical bill in the 2000s came from incandescent light bulbs, not from heating or preserving food.

@davidcobra1735 Год назад

@@Carlos-ux7gv Are you sure about that? How's that even possible? Most of your bill should be from washing clothes, your refrigerator and other electrical appliances. And you have sunlight coming through the window almost all day long for a good part of the year. Pretty sure lighting's never more than 25% of the total for home use anywhere. What I meant by savings in warm countries was that stores and other places like that can save more over the course of a year. At home your bill should stay about the same regardless what month of the year it is.

@EdricLysharae Год назад

@@Carlos-ux7gv, thank you for being patient with people like David. 🤣

@madiis18account Год назад

When I was a kid we had an entire storage shelf in our garage dedicated to spare lightbulbs, that was how commonly they had to be replaced. With CFLs (which my light engineer family was a very early adopter of) we only kept a few spares on hand and our lightbulb shelf was no more, it was merely a spare lightbulb spot on the shelf. These days we don't even keep spare bulbs, we just go out and buy an LED bulb whenever we actually need one, which is almost never. I miss the lightbulb shelf sometimes.

@stephensnell5707 11 месяцев назад

Well it will never rerurn any time soon

@Larslegos 9 месяцев назад

The good 'ol days of the lightbulb shelf

@morlamweb 6 месяцев назад

@@LarslegosI thing you mean the bad old days. It was no fun to replace bulbs back then, especially wen the fixture was hard to reach.

@teaser6089 5 месяцев назад

we still keep spare bulbs, but we rarely not even once per year. apart from this year, we had some electrical malfunctions and those managed to kill 2 led bulbs, may they rest in peace.

@drl5002 5 месяцев назад

My leds don't last. I might as well have incandescent bulbs for all the longevity I'm getting out of led bulbs.

@Owen_loves_Butters Год назад

I actually preferred the slow turn on, it gave my eyes time to adjust. And that swirl shape I personally think looks awesome.

@ryanthebomb 7 месяцев назад

Same

@user-kh2dg7it2n 7 месяцев назад

I agree, LED is horrible for some applications, like for example getting up to take a piss at 2:00 AM and turing on the LED to instant blindness. My CFL would turn on bright enough but not blinding and by the time I piss and hit the light switch leaving the bathroom it was just starting to warm up. That little bit of time makes all the difference in annoying me. I tried a night light but the plug isn't near the toilet and don't work well. I'm torn between my desire to piss in the toilet with light privileges or trying to not miss the toilet in the dark. I got tired of the nonsense and switched back to a CFL and no more issues. I didn't want to go out and buy any motion sensor portable light or any type of additional nonsense, I all want is to piss without instant blinding light.😂

@Owen_loves_Butters 7 месяцев назад

@@user-kh2dg7it2n This is why learning to solder + some basic electronics can be pretty useful. A battery powered but decently bright LED, a battery to power said LED, a setup to either easily recharge or easily replace said battery, a switch, a resistor to regulate current, and a decently sized capacitor, and you can make your own slow turn on LED (also slow turn off).

@Dowlphin 3 месяца назад

I also got a supercompact one, with that serpentine pattern. It sits in an ancient desk lamp design, like from the 70s, and the bulb emits daylight spectrum including UV. 😎 I am that kind of guy. I also bought V4-80 stainless steel screws and nuts once for my used car's header heat shield and exhaust system, in part out of compassion for car mechanics, in part just out of principle because afficing header heat shields in a way that you can never remove them without huge hassle upset me so much.

@Transgender__ 3 месяца назад

yoo wild zionist

@ChannelSho 3 года назад

"When used within their limits, they'll last quite a while" The life lesson for everything.

@american6183 3 года назад

is 'off' one of their limits?

@becauseimafan 2 года назад

... that's what she said.

@exobyte0 3 года назад

What astounds me is we had filament bulbs 'forever' and when CFLs hit, i replaced all my filament bulbs with those as they died. But by the time my CFLs started to die off, LED bulbs were here.

@TaylorTheOtter 3 года назад

That means there's probably some poor sucker who's timing was just off. Their filament bulb broke just before CFLs were available so they were stuck with filament. At some point those broke so they finally got their newfangled CFLs, only for LEDs to take off shortly after. I imagine they will replace their CFLs with LEDs just before the next evolution in domestic lighting takes off.

@stevenclark2188 3 года назад

There was at least half a decade of the ring or rod style mostly CFLs being out there but rarely used before CFLs arrived. So I think it's mostly that the final developed form hit about the same time white LEDs finally got practical.

@paullestrange 3 года назад

I got rid of all my incandescent bulbs about 14 years ago. I replaced them with CFLs. Loads of them are still working fine. There is no imperative to replace them. But eventually they will be replaced with LEDs. They have saved a small fortune...

@AileTheAlien 3 года назад

Yeah, I only had CFLs for about 5 years, and after they started failing LEDs were cheap and good enough, to make the switch the obvious choice! :)

@Penoatle 3 года назад

Once LEDs dropped below $2/ea, I just swapped most bulbs with them. The only exceptions were the FLs in the kitchen. I could not find a decently priced LED replacement so I just went with FL and may replace when that kicks the bucket.

@ebels3 5 месяцев назад

The biggest problem with CFLs is the government banning the sale of incandescent bulbs before the CFL was perfected and usable. When we first started using CFLs when I was young, I didn't have a problem with them. But once we ran out of incandescents and had to use CFLs in applications not well suited for that bulb, the CFL became a lot more infuriating.

@JeffBaertsch Год назад

The thing about color temp tracks with my experience. I worked in a lighting store for a hot minute, and showing people the Lighting Facts label blew peoples mind. They just never looked at it. Had no concept that a CFL could be warm or that there were different temperatures. There was just "incandescent and fluorescent." Also during this era, I'd have roommates who'd buy a CFL because it was the cheapest and looked at no other metrics. Chance would have it that this was often a cold light and they'd curse this "gas station bathroom lightbulb." No Dan, you just bought a cold bulb.

@cohentheblue Год назад

Aren't low spectrum leds incredibly rare and expensive? They seem to be in my area. Basically haven't seen any available commercially, in storefronts for consumers (not industrial sales).

@zacharycoleman1117 11 месяцев назад

@@cohenthebluewhere I live you can easily find any color temp for minimal difference in price

@gregorymalchuk272 8 месяцев назад

Why did daylight become the only cool color temperature offering even though nobody likes it? Warm white and daylight are all that are available at most consumer hardware outlets and retail stores like Walmart. It used to be warm white (2700K to 3000K) and cool white (4100K). Commercial spaces and building designers don't like daylight and have never adopted it. The lighting level has to be ridiculously high for people not to perceive everything as being blue. I liked 3,000 for living rooms and bedrooms, and overhead lights in bathrooms, and cool white for kitchens, garages, basements, offices, and mirror-side fixtures in bathrooms.

@4203105 5 месяцев назад

The problem was that warm CFLs came waaaaay later than the cold ones. By that point people had already made up their minds. The manufacturers handled that better with LED, where you had warm options right away.

@gregorymalchuk272 5 месяцев назад

@@4203105 That's not true. The warm ones were actually the first ones deployed in the 80s. The cool and daylight ones were available along side the warm ones which made people not familiar with them get them and be unhappy. And a general lack of education about color temperature and color rendering index made things way worse.

@SwordOfApollo 3 года назад

I like how the bulbs on the desk keep multiplying like Tribbles during the video. 🙂

@barowt 3 года назад

I had to rewatch the video.. I didn't notice until I saw your comment, 🤣🤣!

@kickme8x 3 года назад

And what is the story behind all those bulbs, he clearly stated that he only has a few but wouldn't replace them until they died but then...

@Bandrik 3 года назад

Hah, you're right!

@m.cigledy6769 3 года назад

I was thinking the exact same thing

@atlys258 3 года назад

All the bits and references he puts in his content just get me 🤣

@mattb4721 3 года назад

"aesthetically suboptimal" - Until now I never realised the CFL and I had something in common.

@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT 3 года назад

Are you a slow starter too? Welcome to the club!

@ataphelicopter5734 3 года назад

@hungryhungryhummer 3 года назад

He called them "ugly walmart whores" in the nicest way possible.

@Allangulon 3 года назад

You're not that ugly!

@scythal 3 года назад

Welcome to the club!

@Jaymac720 2 года назад

I had a CFL in my ceiling fan fixture that I never turn on. The bulb in my night stand just burnt out and I decided to move the CFL to my nightstand lamp. It is so dim when it’s cold which might seem like a bad thing, but if I turn it on in the morning, it won’t immediately blind me. It’ll slowly warm up and get brighter which is more pleasant. Also, I tend to leave that lamp on for hours at a time so a CFL is perfect for it

@chitlitlah Год назад

When I moved into this house over a decade ago, one of the first things I did was replace all the light bulbs I expected to use often with CFL versions, since LEDs weren't common yet, to save electricity. They weren't very reliable as porch lights, but inside, they did their job well. When LEDs became common, I figured I'd replace the CFLs as they burned out. So far, I've replaced one, the one that stays on at all times day and night. These things just won't crap out on me.

@johnarnold893 Год назад

I did the same thing and found that they didn't seem to last much longer than incandescent lights. Since then I have changed all of them to LED and have never had one die.

@Sundara229 Год назад

@@johnarnold893 Agree, the lifespan of CFL's wasn't that great in practice. My memory of these is that there were one or two broken bulbs somewhere in the house at any given time. LED's on the other hand are so reliable, I've yet to encounter a lamp that died on it's own.

@TheBrain2K Год назад

Moved into our current house 7 years ago and I also put in compact CFLs everywhere (corridor/staircase, bedrooms, living room, ...). Back then, it felt like LED lamps definitely couldn't compare yet and even the more expensive ones gave off this weird light that just seemed off (shitty color representation?). Some days ago, one of those now 7y old CFLs failed and after watching this, I'll probably look into LEDs again instead of just grabbing a replacement CFL.

@dmitripogosian5084 Год назад

Exactly, same here, I am still waiting for the one installed 15+ years ago to burn out

@brianfitch5469 Год назад

@@TheBrain2K Why CfL use the same electricity as LED in my experience last much longer then led. The led are designed to fail now I can't stand them. Order cfls online.

@joannaatkins822 3 года назад

You're proof that any subject can be interesting or even downright entertaining given a passionate teacher

@MarquisDeSang 3 года назад

It would be nice if he could make a video about drying paint.

@jamess1787 3 года назад

Thanks Yikes Mikes!

@mathchessdnd 3 года назад

@@MarquisDeSang Drying concrete would be amazing. There's actually a ton of chemistry and design that goes into concrete/cement formulation. ...But that might be too "industrial" and not enough "residential" for this channel.

@Dman130 3 года назад

I agree, I was hooked on his how road signs reflect. It was a 40 min video and it was an amazing video.

@unglaubiger5645 3 года назад

@@MarquisDeSang There´s so much to tell about drying paint. In most paints, various solvents evaporate. In acrylic paint this is mostly water but after drying the paint is waterproof. In other paints, Oils react with the oxygen in the air and then there is 2k Paint where a hardener starts a chamical reaction. I guess that would make a very long and interesting video. I think it would be better to split it up into multiple parts.

@Steets 3 года назад

Oh, god. The "power of buying two of them" is finally getting to his head. By next week, Alec's going to have an entire room full of CFLs.

@ZGryphon 3 года назад

Right? I'm like a damn vampire over here, constantly feeling compelled to pause and count them.

@mdmenzel 3 года назад

@@ZGryphon I'm tempted to say "you're in big trouble mister" a la "Bad Blood."

@acidhelm 3 года назад

@@ZGryphon Whew, I'm glad I'm not the only one who did that.

@AlRoderick 3 года назад

The power of buying a power of two of them.

@graycav56 3 года назад

Tribbles...

@DaringDramis 8 месяцев назад

I have a 2 bulbs ceiling lamp in my living room and used CFL bulbs, a blue and a red, from 2002 to 2022. I've only used 4 bulbs in that 20 years period; each pair of bulbs lasted 10 years each. That lamp is lit roughly 6 hours a day in average (about 8 hours, during half the fall/winter/half the spring, and about 4 hours, during other half of spring/summer/other half of fall), so each bulb lasted 21 900 hours. The bulbs were operating fully exposed to ambient airflow. These bulbs provided a nice ambient lighting without being too strong, and fulfilled all my needs for lighting in the living room for all that time. A fun fact; when the CFLs blew out, they did it within a few days gap! Incandescent bulbs, in comparison, were lasting only one year, with a total of 2190 hours. They were cheaper than CFL, but considering durability and energy saving, CFLs were definitely a better deal. Someday, a little "green" girl tried to teach me a lesson about the terrible threat about these CFLs because of the mercury inside. Well, 2 bulbs used every ten years having only a fume of mercury inside... No one had been harmed, but she was somehow right. The factories manufacturing these bulbs must have some great stock of mercury in the yard; as long as they handle it safe, there's no problem, but as soon someone makes a mistake and spill all that mercury in the nature, that could be a disaster. Last year, my CFLs blew out, and they were no longer available on the shelves, so I bought 2 LED bulbs instead, having the same colors. The lighting is a tiny bit clearer that the CFL version, but nothing shocking. I've noticed there's a split second delay after turning the switch on before the light come, but again, nothing shocking there, it only clashed my little habits for a while. I have no doubt about their energy saving qualities, which are better than CFLs; let's see now if they will match CFLs in durability, but it will take a while...

@charger959 3 месяца назад

In 1994 I installed an at the time more modern stick style cfl in a hallway. It's still working just fine 30 years later! I've never seen one of the newer ones do that.

@Dowlphin 3 месяца назад

When technology is new, they're afraid of it not lasting long enough. Then they work on understanding how they can precisely determine when it will fail.

@DaneeBound 3 года назад

gotta love the fact that, as the video progresses the desk fills up with CF-lamps

@IMarvinTPA 3 года назад

They're like tribbles.

@Harey0407 3 года назад

@@IMarvinTPA Trouble with CFLs?

@felicityc 3 года назад

i would have never noticed. i was too busy reading the comments

@warwagon 3 года назад

at one point in the video I was thinking "Where did all those light bulbs come from?

@DaneeBound 3 года назад

@@warwagon it's the all-famous "power of buying two of them"

@Gardeningat58N 3 года назад

Here in the UK they tried to kill off the incandescent bulb about 10 years ago by flooding the market with really cheap cfl bulbs. They were selling 10 bulbs for £1, my dad bought £5 worth and because they last so long he still has a cupboard full of them.

@simonbeasley989 3 года назад

Yes, it was ridiculous here, they were seen as the solution to everything regardless of whether they fitted the light fitting.

@HoLDoN4Sec 3 года назад

where i live when CFL bulbs came out you literally couldn't even find incandescent bulbs anymore, except for really odd size ones like E14 type bulbs. now ever since LED bulbs came out you can't even find CFL bulbs anymore, and needless to say even incandescent bulbs are no where to be found anymore. tbh, those CFL bulbs seem to last even longer than LED bulbs. probably because most LED bulbs out there are made out of crap electronics i guess

@kokofan50 3 года назад

I would still be working on incandescent bulbs, but I think that says more about how my family uses electricity.

@garethfairclough8715 3 года назад

Really? We bought dozens of CFLs at that time as well and we went through them in about 6 months. We were changing them out every couple of weeks! We mostly went back to old school incandescent bulbs and they've lasted so much longer. I guess they must be able to put up with iffy power better? Then again, the cheap LED bulb I put up to "try out" a few years back is still going strong. *shrug*

@MasonMouse 3 года назад

@@garethfairclough8715 I've worked at the building I'm at for a very long time and when we first started getting CFLs I wrote the date I changed them on each one. Some I've replaced after more then 8 years of service and many are still going. Meanwhile my sister several miles away went through CFLs like candy on Halloween. My only conclusion was also that either her electrical supply or the house wiring was a bit iffy. I don't think it's the CFLs themselves (unless you bought super cheap ones).

@notmenotme614 Год назад

In defense of the CFL…. What do I need?: A light for my room. Does the CFL illuminate my room: Yes. And it’s a warm pleasant light too.

@SmokinGoodd420 5 месяцев назад

My dad was a master plumber/ do it all handyman. I will admit there were more than a few occasions i felt like i was on tool time. LOL He installed the four foot T5 Lights in our kitchen. Mom was not happy about a shop light being installed where a decent residential fixture was . Still to this day i have to go over and help mom (Shes in her 80s) change out the old 4 foot bulbs in the kitchen for her.

@MeesenMan 3 года назад

I like how he's gone from having 2 bulbs on his desk in the beginning to having, like, a bajillion at the end. Good stuff.

@Redpsyclone 3 года назад

The year is 2024. Technology connections is buried under endless piles of CFL bulbs. There is no connection. There is no technology. Only CFLs

@docchocobo 3 года назад

I saw that too :)

@captain_ironbutt 3 года назад

The warm-up time was considered a feature in my previous apartment. The bulb was located in a bathroom that was most frequently used at night, and the slow start allowed us to gently habituate our eyes to the light.

@Scoutter 3 года назад

Exactly my point why I use CFL in bathroom still. I exactly even search for slow-start ones which is actually harder then you think.

@alsternerd 3 года назад

I still use them in the bedroom and livingroom. 10 years old, still got a bunch lyring in a box around. And I really like the slow start in the morning and in the living room. It's not that much of a punch in the face.

@SalZam150 3 года назад

I think there is LED with this feature, or at least it is possible to add dimming to LED.

@Muzer0 3 года назад

Personally for me this was the worst thing about them. It was awful getting up on a depressing dark winter morning, walking from the lovely bright rest of the house into a dark room, turning on the light and having the room somehow get more depressingly dim than if you'd just kept the light off... this will always be the CFL's legacy in my mind.

@andymorin9163 3 года назад

I have red christmas lights strung around my mirror and a night light, works great! I turn the christmas lights off when I go to sleep as the night light gives the perfect amount of light (it changes colors too, either manually or on it’s own)

@I4get42 Год назад

Hello! This video helped me get MUCH better life out of my LED bulbs. I realized that I was storing my spare bulbs in the garage, and so they were all pre-fried by the Texas Summer. Since I started keeping my spares inside they are much more reliable.

@gtbkts Год назад

The hardest part of cfls, is reading the package and following thier instructions. I never did, and burnt out so many of them. If I had seen this(and the other) video, cfls would of made alot more sense to me.

@CountingStars333 Год назад

@@gtbkts would have. Not would of.

@buillioncubes Год назад

@@CountingStars333 Would would've have worked?

@oldveryveryoldmanfromthe1900s Год назад

@@buillioncubes would have

@Jonathan_Doe_ Год назад

My parents have some first gen led bulbs in their hallway. They’ve been there 10+ years, they’ve dimmed slightly but they’re still fine… The newer ones are all engineered to fail. It’s a joke, the government should hire engineers to inspect/regulate them so they can’t design failure points into them.

@JackS425 2 года назад

We have a 300 watt equivalent comically large CFL in our garage for additional light and it’s by far my favorite fixture in the house.

@RJARRRPCGP Год назад

Over here, 4-foot and longer fluorescents have been the most popular in garages, including during the late-2010s.

@sandordugalin8951 3 года назад

Technology Connections: **attempts to get through one line of script** Long Fluorescent Tube: "Let me sing you the song of my people."

@Afonso23M 2 года назад

I’m high on pain medication because of the vaccine and this comment just made me laugh my ass off! Thank you!

@h.c.49 2 года назад

*bink*

@yeh.80 2 года назад

@@Afonso23M trollololo

@ronindebeatrice 3 года назад

I have a newfound fondness for the lamp in my room that takes a few seconds to start. May it shine for a long time.

@bryantfloyd7471 2 года назад

I used 43 watt halogen bulbs in every light socket in the house.

@ronb6182 2 года назад

LED all the way for regular lightning. It's a no brainer. You can get them in warm lighting or cool lighting. They use very little energy. I can have my air conditioner back because of LED lighting. Quick calculations 100 minus 10 equals 90 times 10 you get 900 saved watts. I can apply that 900 watts to a 8000 BTU ac unit which cools my bedroom so I sleep well. If I had 100 watt lightbulbs burning it's like running a 900 watt space heater in the summer in Florida. My whole electric bill is about 60 dollars a month. Using LED lights and my ac units . I also save on hot water by using a timer. You don't pay for hot water you don't use. Timers are better on tank heaters than tankless heaters that require 150 amps of electric. Believe me I looked into all types of water heaters. But old faithful tank heater won. Solar is too expensive and you still use electric. I could run copper pipe in the attic and get free hot water in the heat of the day. Most people take showers at night or in the morning. So free hot water is not in the picture.

@daszieher 2 года назад

Mine in the bedroom takes minutes to reach full luminance. This is perfect when getting up in the morning 😂

@ronb6182 2 года назад

@@daszieher that's a good idea if you have a proper fixture for the compact fluorescent light. I did use CFLs until lights of America came out with LED light bulbs but they did not last very long the bulbs were made up of little light emitting diodes but got dimmer and dimmer until they were useless. I even bought a tulip light fixtures with 5 sockets but all was a failure. Until GE came out with the LED light bulbs they were the same size as a regular incandescent light bulb. Which I use them now. WalMart came out with spot lights that are LED which I have in my kitchen. I now have plenty of light and my electric bill is kept at bay. 60 dollars a month not bad with air conditioning. I grew up using forty watt fluorescent lights and the other old types circline to name a few. I had one fixture that had 3 15 watt fluorescent light s in a line I used two for my electronic work bench. Well I'm glad LED lights are here.

@matthewbowen5841 2 года назад

I have 4 of them in lamps that I bought at the same time as the bulbs 6 yesrs ago. Can vouch for all of the pros and cons mentioned. But darn are they long lasting!

@moonverine Год назад

I remember working with a guy who was changing a hanging CFL. He was trying to remove it while still hot, and the bulb snapped in his hand. He, uh, was changing the bulb with his mouth hanging wide open, so a little cataract of glass and mercury deposited into his mouth. He coughed, looked dimly around, said "Some went in my mouth" then went back to work. Don't know whatever happened to that guy.

@gdj6298 Год назад

He was probably fine - the dire warnings on the package were (not referring to the environmental warnings here) very over the top. Same as Raid. Guess why..... "Take all your clothes off! Drink Ivermectin! Gasmask on! Tent the house! Move to Ohio! Just pleasepleaseplease don't sue us !

@Larslegos 9 месяцев назад

Seems like he'll get far in life

@Kennephone 8 месяцев назад

He became a mad hatter

@CleedRemus 8 месяцев назад

And that's exactly why these things were unacceptable for home usage.

@XnoobSpeakable 7 месяцев назад

Mercury is mostly inert in your body but if the broken glass scratches your insides then the mercury can affect your body through that

@SebastianWeinberg Год назад

When I moved into my current apartment in 2001, I replaced each incandescent bulb that burned out with a CFL. I was done with that slow replacement within a single year. As LED bulbs became the prominent lighting solution, I committed to replacing the CFLs the same way: each burned out one would be replaced by a modern LED light. Except, it's 2023 now, and I'm _still_ waiting for that to happen. I'm starting to suspect that by the time I get to replace the next bulb, LEDs will be a thing of the past, and we'll be back to rubbing sticks together to start fires.

@NikonRaccoon 3 года назад

I love how the bulbs on the desk keep multiplying throughout the video.

@SpydersByte 3 года назад

lol I just made the exact same comment

@1axmann 2 года назад

That caught my eye too 😆

@AndyGaskin 3 года назад

Praise for you locking down the camera's exposure while filming lightbulbs turning on and off.

@luisreyes6905 3 года назад

yes i see so who will be the primary and secondary user of locking down the cameras exposure?

@ivankiefer3886 3 года назад

He is using manual setting and even the af is manual.

@AlbertLebel 2 года назад

I agree. I been trying all sorts of different lights to shoot my videos and I always get blown out whites. Using all these and keeping the video looking good was a great job

@ChrisEllorris Год назад

I loved these bulbs when they first came out! I thought they looked really cool and I loved that you could have pure white light bulbs instead of yellow. I remember the biggest complaint I heard from my mom and grandmother was that they didn't look like light bulbs.

@BigEightiesNewWave 3 месяца назад

That was the whole idea, to look like sunlight. True colors seen, less eyestrain, better vision.

@OllamhDrab Год назад

I think they were an excellent transitional technology, anyway, we've still got some running here, though a lot of them finally started falling to attrition after really a lot of years. (I've got a somewhat overflowing box from this house I take care of that needs to go to the e-waste place across town.) The first one I ever bought followed me all over the country with moves and probably lasted more than ten years, saved a lot of power and money, and in general they've lasted long enough to start rotating in LEDs without much fuss or disruption, so I'd call that a mission accomplished, really.

@raydunakin 3 года назад

It didn't help that for a long time, CFLs were ungodly expensive, AND produced hideously-colored light. Eventually they came down in price to something much more reasonable, and the color got a lot better. But by that time most people had already come to the conclusion that they were expensive and ugly.

@randjan8592 3 года назад

idk, it's not really ugly, that spiral shape is kinda cool. But the rest still stands.

@Shendue 3 года назад

Light looks pretty nice to me, and they are cheaper than led bulbs, still, here in Italy. The brands that I have access too sell in two fashions. The first is cold white (which looks blue-ish), I personally don't love it because I find it too artificial and bright (I know it makes no difference in terms of sheer lumens, but the perceived brightness is stronger with a colder light, to me), but I guess it's nice for something like the kitchen where you want very clear lighting. The ones I use in my bedroom and bathroom are warm white ones, which have a softer, yellowish tone that I find more cozy and relaxing. Reminds me more of the classic incandescent bulbs.

@bogey780 3 года назад

I don't think he looked at it from the practical application to a normal person. There was no normalization on size, design, or most importantly color. So when someone's old incandescent popped, they'd go buy a new CFL. It would produce different color and be weird looking. So they'd have to change out all the bulbs. Or bring them back to the store and swap them. So what was a few seconds of thought with the hardest question being bulb style became an expensive back and forth to the store. Folks hate spending time on something they consider a minor issue.

@Tatsh2DX 3 года назад

I don't know what you mean by hideous. All my rooms use one 5500 CFL. I guess this is too bright for a lot of people but it's my preference since I was a kid and discovered CFLs over incandescent

@czdaniel1 3 года назад

@@Tatsh2DX Fuck what you get now...What color were you getting from 2007-2012 They were hideous! And the lamp fixtures they were going into were not designed for with their intensity of lighting...highly intense, hideous lighting

@Hachiae 3 года назад

i love how you talk about these in past tense as if 90% of my house isnt lit up by them

@jameseasson4489 3 года назад

Same here the bulb I had lasted 10 years

@pvanukoff 3 года назад

Yeah, my house is full of them. And I have a closet full of replacements. Gonna be a while.

@Ajan-X 3 года назад

@@pvanukoff are you the dad of the other commenter here that lives in the uk, and said his dad still has a cupboard full of these?

@jemsterr 3 года назад

I didn't even know that LEDs were ready to replace.. I still see shelves of CFL at the store

@rickhapstley3866 3 года назад

I didn't even know that CFL was considered obsolete, it's still pretty common

@arska6383 Год назад

One issue with both CFLs and LED bulbs is that they are considered as low power devices, thus no requirements for power factor correction. It is said that many little streams make a big river, and it is true also here. When all added together it is a considerable amount of reactive power and harmonics they put on the distribution grid.

@BierBart12 Год назад

Could you explain what that means?

@haph2087 Год назад

@@BierBart12 agreed. Arska's comment reads like it means something, but I can't understand what. What's power factor correction? I looked at the wikipedia article, and I think I understand? It looks like a method of efficiency improvement where you try to make the load and amount of available load (how much energy is being put in to circuit) as close to each other as possible (since extra energy would be wasted, somehow). Incandescent bulbs have a simple type of load that is easier to deal with than CFL's, cause some CFL's have a rectifier and alternator to increase the frequency they flicker at (to stop eye strain) this changes the load over the course of a cycle of AC. Incandescent bulbs in comparison just cause a constant load that is easier to correct for. I think the resonance part is about how multiple CFL's on a system might have their load cycle line up with each other (compounding the issue) or opposite each other (mitigating it), or even maybe have slightly different frequencies (causing it to sometimes combine and sometimes cancel). I'm not sure how that would work, but I do see how cyclic changes in load from different devices could resonate, as cyclic changes in load act like a wave.

@molenini Год назад

@@haph2087 That's far less of a concern than all British turning their 1500W kettles at same time on a commercial break. Also it's not like everyone will turn on their lights at same exact moment.

@haph2087 Год назад

@@molenini Nonono, So, if you all turn your kettle on at the same time, that spikes the amount of demand at one point in time, right? Well, CFL’s turn on and off hundreds of times per second. If they happen to line up, you might have spikes in demand (admittedly smaller, but) hundreds of times per second. If there exists a mechanism by which CFC’s can harmonize, you can get a demand curve that large scale, looks flat, but small scale is very very spikey. This is less about “hey we need to turn on three more turbines” and instead “we need fancy capacitors (or something) to reduce electrical noise”.

@molenini Год назад

@@haph2087 Oh, I didn't consider that.

@thepinkmenace4875 Год назад

Have CFLs all over my house. All have been going strong for countless years now! Not planning on replacing until they die out.

@dmitripogosian5084 Год назад

+1 All my CFL lights that I still have from 15+ years ago are still working (so are most incandescent, to that regard). Already going through second generation of LED's, first installed in 2016. What I had in LED lasted 6 years

@brianfitch5469 Год назад

When they go out replace with more CFL bulbs you can find them online.

@stephensnell5707 11 месяцев назад

@@dmitripogosian5084 get rid of your CFL Lights and switch to L.E.D. Lights

@dmitripogosian5084 11 месяцев назад

@@stephensnell5707 Because they last too long ?

@kssarh 3 года назад

Ten years later I finally found out why the CFLs in my closet never seemed to last more than a couple of months.

@rodboy4461 3 года назад

I also found 2 pack of small base CFL'S made to replace torpedo bulbs

@homoevolutus 3 года назад

And all my studio lighting are giant CFL bulbs. : (

@CTMKD 3 года назад

@@homoevolutus so not compact then

@czdaniel1 3 года назад

IKR!!

@exoticcar5482 3 года назад

Funny thing is even as a kid I was so observant of lights and the moment I saw many CFLs in my house fail I quickly associated the quick start with it in my mind years before this video confirmed my suspicions

@darryl7256 3 года назад

I love how the bulbs are multiplying with every scene cut. I used to use enclosed CFLs in my lamp post outside. At -25c, they would take almost a half hour to get to full brightness, but they outlasted incandescent bulbs by far.

@alexatkin 3 года назад

I had a problem with Cool White CFLs dying quickly, the worst I think only lasted 2 months (though long operating hours as I've always been a night person). Ironically the one that lasted the longest was in an enclosed bathroom fixture.

@KirkNorthrop 3 года назад

I love how Alec has really taken the "multiplying items" to heart now.

@tomhsia4354 3 года назад

Oh no, they're breeding. Help!

@h.kurnia3600 3 года назад

Reminds me of a Jay Foreman Map Men episode

@KirkNorthrop 3 года назад

@@ALLSTAR284 if only someone made a video explaining this exact thing

@ChronicNewb 4 месяца назад

A core childhood memory of mine was my dad trying to secretly switch out incandescent bulbs for CFLs and my mom noticing them and switching them back. It was like a never-ending scavenger hunt. She didn't like them for the exact reason you mentioned: the typical color temperature made her feel like she was in the office.

@harsesishoktar9386 Год назад

I love your videos. Informative and aesthetically pleasing. Even your outros are calming in a retro sort of way that I've yet to pinpoint where they're familiar.

@succuvamp_anna 3 года назад

I love how they just kept multiplying on the table lol

@theophilusthistler5885 3 года назад

Like Gremlis

@theophilusthistler5885 3 года назад

Gremlins

@stanpatterson5033 3 года назад

Like tribbles

@stevenbalekic5683 3 года назад

Was thinking this too...like mushrooms after a good rain.

@dwftube 3 года назад

@@stanpatterson5033 You have to be a certain age to know that. LOL.

@paulunga 3 года назад

That constant past tense is really throwing me for a loop when I still have one of these in my bathroom. It's one of those slow starters, too, which is actually quite nice in the morning since you don't get blasted with light but rather get the chance to slowly acclimate to it over a minute or so.

@clicktv9419 3 года назад

This actually sounds cool😅😂

@nick15684 3 года назад

Same, we have them all over my house too... He's talking like their ancient, obsolete technology, when everyone I know uses them to this day all throughout their houses...

@kirksway1 3 года назад

I have the same thing in my rest room, I dread the day that it fails

@ryans413 2 года назад

I do kinda miss the flickering when you turn them on from being cold lol just a weird thing I miss

@purplegill10 2 года назад

Same for me in regards to the slow starter. Our kitchen had them growing up and in the morning it was so great to switch on the lights and not be blinded. Our house was old and dimmer switches for some reason (cost, electricity, etc) weren't viable so when we went to CFL that "negative" actually turned out to be a huge positive for the 2000s and early 2010s of our kitchen. Thankfully nowadays we have a much better lighting setup in there and the LEDs we use worked great but admittedly there's a huge element of nostalgia for me in waking up earlier than everyone else in the house, flipping a switch, and watching as the dim glow of the lights matched the sunrise in the morning.

@denisconnolly5064 Год назад

I enjoy these presentations by Technology Connections, thank you sir. A long time ago I bought what might have been the first commercially available CFL lamps? They were Philips, 60W equiv. with magnetic ballasts. They were large and heavy, very slow to achieve full brightness in the cold. Thank goodness for the progress we have achieved with LED's.

@swimmerkat3965 2 года назад

seeing that ikea bulb brought back so many memories of my old retail job in a lighting section. sooooo many people came in looking for a replacement for those bulbs and it was always a huge pain because of the intermediate base. i had the shelf spot with the compatible bulbs memorized in case someone came in looking for a replacement. why does ikea do this to us poor saps who work at hardware stores?!

@tanya5322 Год назад

I’m guessing that perhaps those intermediate base bulbs are/ were more common in other parts of the world where IKEA operated? Or, IKEA wanted to ensure repeat customers?

@kilmindaro3 3 года назад

I like how when the video goes on, the amount of light bulbs on his desk increases

@cazomsdragons2625 3 года назад

It's wonderful to watch them multiply like rabbits.

@warp.routine 3 года назад

Easter egg found 😂

@alkalinekats8300 3 года назад

Honestly, I got so distracted with this I had to go back and watch some parts again

@SpeakerPolice 3 года назад

Came here to say this LMAO...as the video goes on, the bulbs grow in number

@Nighthawkinlight 3 года назад

I still like my big 85w CFL's for video lights. Very minimal flicker for high speed video recording. There are better LED's out there, but it's not cheap to get an equivalent setup that runs without flicker on wall power.

@EmeraldLavigne 3 года назад

What incandescent equivalent is an 85w CFL?

@oO_ox_O 3 года назад

Why is that...? Is preventing flicker that hard? 🤔

@kaitlyn__L 3 года назад

@@oO_ox_O AC power. The high persistence phosphor while LEDs have lower persistence. It’s all explained in the video already

@oO_ox_O 3 года назад

@@kaitlyn__L Thanks.

@barretprivateer8768 3 года назад

@@oO_ox_O Filtering AC to DC is actually pretty easy.

@MissAshley42 2 года назад

I only realized these things went poof a year or so ago. I only ever bought one set of bulbs for my house, and by the time I finally had to replace them, they were already mostly gone from stores. Wild stuff.

@bennyfata1293 2 года назад

Wow. I was on your channel about a year ago when I was curious about the orange street light. Didn't expect that this would be a big channel since you talk about 'exclucive interesting stuff'. Good job you guys, you deserve it.

@eugenebebs7767 3 года назад

It's truly scary how number of CFLs increases as the video goes on.

@DavidWaltermyer 3 года назад

even scarier how long it took me to catch on to this little Easter egg - I think I was at about the 20 minute mark before I went "...now hold on just a second..."

@mystic839 3 года назад

i thought it was a fun gag alongside "i still have some of these cfls kicking around" - you don't say?

@harpoonlobotomy1116 3 года назад

The extended version of the video ends with the most dangerous ball put you've ever seen...

@seanlavery4695 3 года назад

For some reason this reminded me of "The Trouble with Tribbles". Just turn away for a second and there's 4 more!

@Bitterjackal 3 года назад

@@seanlavery4695 Came here to make a Tribble joke! Ha!

@joedogg6582 3 года назад

The fact that the number of cfls on the desk kept increasing slayed me.

@ChrisHilgenberg 3 года назад

I thought I was the only one to notice that... And the fact he's straight-laced the entire time when he reappears with more on the table is amazing

@aaronvienot Год назад

Old video but here's an observation that wasn't discussed in the video: when CFLs were run in an enclosed fixture, I saw another effect (multiple brands and fixtures): the phosphors would color-shift. The lamps seemed to output at about 1000K above their rated, and un-enclosed, design rating. And yeah, they died awful deaths. The plastic base usually had discoloration around the arc-tube holes and maybe a couple other spots correlating to the hottest-running ballast components.

@k.c1126 2 года назад

I'm so sorry they are gone. I really liked them a lot. One of the things I really liked a lot was that they lasted a long time. I've had to replace LEDs 3x as frequently since I stopped using CFLs... I rarely had the problems you mentioned because I live in a relatively warm area.

@SB-mr2nk 4 месяца назад

Really? I have all Phillips hue lights going back to 2016 and I haven’t had to replace a single one.

@SirScarface69 3 года назад

I love how ElectroBOOM does an LED video and TC does a CFL on the same hour

@Soniboy84 3 года назад

And they both mention Big Clive lol..

@Case_ 3 года назад

@@Soniboy84 Big Clive is the king of lightbulb videos. Of course they have to mention him.

@sovietshnuckums2357 3 года назад

Post the link right now

@tracyrreed 3 года назад

The Silence of the Lamps "Well, Clarice, have the bulbs stopped beaming?"

@victorhugoeh974 3 года назад

😂🤣that's a good one!

@jamesslick4790 3 года назад

👍😜👍

@weatheronthe8s895 Год назад

I still use a CFL in my bedroom at one of my houses. It is probably not the greatest thing to be using these days. You can see the light starting whenever I turn it on, but it still works. It is a normal swirly type CFL while upside down, is entirely exposed due to the cover not fitting on the ceiling fan when using a CFL. I believe I used this bulb before, then switched it to LED, but then that LED started flickering for some weird reason, so I switched the bulb back to CFL because I couldn't find another soft white light in the house. I am planning to use it until it stops working.

@rayoflight62 3 месяца назад

I have a Japanese 16 Watt CFL light bulb that I bought in the year 1988. It still works. This type of CFL lamp never arrived on the western markets, because it weighed 450 grams, or one pound. It did not contain an electronic circuit, but rather three components: an iron-core ballast coil, a glow bimetallic starter, and a capacitor for power factor (φ) correction; by law, φ > 0.86. Basically, this CFL bulb contains the miniature versions of all the components installed in a wall-mounted fluorescent lamp fixture...

@funghazi 3 года назад

I liked how they had to warm up, they were nice to wake up to, I wouldn't get blinded by them when they first switched on.

@yolo_burrito 3 года назад

Yeah my vanity has some roughly 20 year old CFLs with great color. One is burnt I’m dreading replacing.

@nijgaming410 3 года назад

I actually have one of these bulbs in my lamp that I use that's right next to my bed I forget about it all the time kasur just stays on for weeks maybe months at a time and it continues to work as if nothing is wrong

@burntvirtue 3 года назад

Amen

@kenkahre9262 3 года назад

That was the very reason I detested them. There were two rooms that were so dim, I considered taking a flashlight with me. When you turn the lights on, you shouldn't have to wait for the lights to brighten.

@hoej 3 года назад

Slow starting CFLs were brilliant for a quick night pee run. If you were quick enough they wouldn't blind you before you turned them off.

@BronyumHexofloride 3 года назад

i totally agree, now its like a Nuclear blast tuning on my bathroom light in the early hours, kinda wish there was "slow start" LED lights or even adaptors to slowly ramp up the light levels over say 5 mins from 30% to 100% over that time span

@charliebaker1427 3 года назад

@@BronyumHexofloride so you want a dimmer switch led they make those

@BronyumHexofloride 3 года назад

@@charliebaker1427 not exactly, just one thats active for the first 5 mins of being on

@solarbirdyz 3 года назад

EXACTLY THIS holy crow. Also for getting up in the mornings in the winter when it's two hours 'til sunrise. Kind of a slow wakeup. Not nice enough to keep with CFLs, but... an actual benefit to the slow brightness start.

@ram89572 3 года назад

@@BronyumHexofloride I have the same issue with too bright in the middle of the night or when I first wake up. My solution without needing to install a dimmer was to just buy some of those color changeable dimmable led bulbs from amazon that come with that little remote control. Those things have a good low level setting but can brighten up a lot if you need the light in the bathroom with just a couple of presses on the remote.

@boomer150 11 месяцев назад

CFL had there time and place and like Disco, died. They where a good stepping stone to the LED wonderland we live in now. I have on CFL still active in my shed, can't even remember when I put it in and I turn it on maybe once a month and it is so dim you can barely see until maybe 60 seconds passes. About 5 years ago I switched every bulb in the house to LED and almost all are still alive. I had one burn out from my room light (the heaviest used light bulb). I remember when CFL started to take over the market my grandpa refused them, he made me go buy like 50 "regular" light bulbs before they where taken off the market. Then one night when he was asleep I secretly changed all his bulbs to LED to see if he would notice the change. He didn't until 3 months later when I told him.

@pkdude5334 Год назад

This popped up on my feed maybe because I was shopping for light bulbs earlier today (stupid ceiling fan uses an overpriced A15). I found this video to be way more interesting than I anticipated, so I'll definitely check out some of your other videos. I'm happy to hear I can still use my old CFLs.

@JohnMooreVlogs 3 года назад

I filmed a wedding reception that was lit with CFL bulbs a few years back and let me say it left me dumbfounded when I tried to edit it. The CRI was so bad, they might as well had used sodium vapor lamps to light it. I'm not exaggerating when I say it was like there was no color information. Everything was a shade of the same color and my scopes confirmed it. There was a gentleman wearing an orange shirt that glowed like a neon light. No amount of color correction was able to fix it because there simply wasn't enough color info.

@mfbfreak 3 года назад

Ooh yes, i know that problem very well. Pretty hard to take proper pictures too. It does vary with the brand/type, though. There were pretty decent ones out there. Oddly, these days you can still get fluorescent tubes with the bad kind of phosfor in them (color 640 for instance, while 840 has the same color temp but with better color rendering). 8[somethingsomething] tubes are pretty much standard because they're better, but somehow the 6's are still sold.

@gorak9000 3 года назад

They tend to use really cheap phosphor with very peaky spectrums. Because CRI is a very flawed measurement, you can have bulbs (both CFL and LED) that have > 90 CRI that have absolutely garbage color. I bought some Feit LED bulbs from Costco the other week which claim > 90 CRI, which they technically meet, but when you measure them, the R9 (deep red) value is atrocious at 59 and R12 (deep blue) is bad too at 85, and they look pretty terrible. Most CFLs have a > 80 CRI which is even worse yet.

@Chetanarora2308 3 года назад

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@Chetanarora2308 3 года назад

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@SteelheadTed 3 года назад

Was it just the fluorescent lamps or the combined light from different sources at the same time? In a space with confirmed only fluorescence, I’ve been able to get the white balance right. In a mixed light room, say incandescent and fluorescent, it gets much more difficult.

@ClellBiggs 3 года назад

"Stop making so much noise!" Yup, that's definitely a fluorescent bulb.

@GameSack 3 года назад

ACKSHULLY (pushes up glasses) it's the ballast that makes the noise.

@jasonreed7522 3 года назад

I love how that one scene was basically the entire blooper reel.

@rosehawke2577 Год назад

I do know, back in the 80s/90s I had CFLs in a couple of lamps that had a light plastic sheeting as shade liners. The liners DID yellow and got exceptionally brittle after a couple of years. I can only assume that they did, in fact, emit a fair amount of UV.

@GoatzombieBubba Год назад

Or UV entering from a window.

@toweri_li Год назад

It was probably UV-A, the least harmful, longest wavelenght light. That can also affect plastics - as well as visible light can too! A regular sheet of window glass passes approximately 30% of UV-A, that is emitted by the CFL too. (Evidence: the faint blue light that you may see escaping the ends of old-time fluorescent tubes, where the phosphor coating was not reaching quite to the end caps. That is part of the discharge emission spectra going from UV-C, completely blocked by the glass tube, UV-B, still invisible and alsmost entirely blocked by the glass, UV-A, also invisible - and the tail end of it being visible blue light.) As a window pane can pass some 30% of UV-A, the solar light may well be the culprit (as "Aaron" already mentioned.) Not to mention that some cheap plastics just do not contain enough stabilizing agents, and they just self-destruct given long enough time...

@danielramotowski5187 Год назад

I think it’s heat more than UV actually.

@rosehawke2577 Год назад

@@GoatzombieBubba The windows, such as they were, were kept covered with room darkening shades as this was our master bedroom.

@computeraidedworld1148 3 месяца назад

Man, I love this little guy in my computer. Always has the neatest knowledge.

@WinterRaven25 3 года назад

Before I left town 6 years ago I modernized my grandmother's house with CFL bulbs. When I got back in town recently I replaced them all with LED bulbs so she would have even lower power bills. Every single one of the CFL bulbs was still working. Now they are sitting in the closet just in case they are needed.

@pascal2085 3 года назад

Why have you replaced the CFLs if they are still working fine? Even with high electrical prices like in Germany it's still not worth to replace them.

@Anonymousfox1.0 3 года назад

@@pascal2085 Yeah why. Most of the time, the new LEDs when they are given for free won't last this many years the CFLs are working for. Why do people replace them with LEDs when the old bulbs are working fine?

@NoTraceOfSense 2 года назад

@@Anonymousfox1.0 I put the first LED bulbs in my house so long ago I forgot. They’re only now just starting to go bad. They start faster, use less power for more light, and the biggest thing? RGB, BABY

@keiyakins 2 года назад

@@Anonymousfox1.0 well, I replaced the one in my bedroom as soon as I could because I'd already broken one in there - I bet you can still detect elevated mercury in my body from that. Iirc I just moved the bulb somewhere less prone to breakage though. Actually might be the kitchen lights - that actually has two CFLs still, an LED bulb, and an incandescent that refuses to die XD

@SuperPickle15 2 года назад

@@keiyakins i doubt you couldnt even detect mecury, even if you broke every bulb in your house. Go eat a can of tuna, and thats a different story.

@NicholasHubbard 3 года назад

"Some of them are even smart. I think they know algebra!" This caused my body to emit an involuntary chuckle

@Danny-gc5qb 3 года назад

they are glowing computer chips after all

@pierreuntel1970 3 года назад

You can say that they're very bright

@simeondermaats 3 года назад

@@pierreuntel1970 I'm genuinely surprised he didn't make that pun in the video.

@Hans-gb4mv 3 года назад

Does make me wonder if they can count past 1

@rolandschweiger8678 Год назад

thank you for this really great factual knowledge-based description! More of these no matter what subject ... would make the world really a better place!!

@Garfield36900 Год назад

I remember using a CFL outside when I smoked and during winter in New England it would be sometimes 3 degrees and the lamp outside was useless, very glad I installed an LED fixture.

@RJARRRPCGP Год назад

Yes, even if not that cold one night, I remember seeing CFLs in someone's garage in the 2010s, IIRC, where they only glowed at the ends!

@JeffGeerling 3 года назад

I just have to say, dimmable CFLs were probably the worst type of bulb I'd ever used, even worse than the worst LED bulbs I've found on the clearance shelf.

@gnome6671 3 года назад

Didn't expect to see you here! Love your vids lol

@FakeJeep 3 года назад

Still have them at work... they get "weird" when they get to a certain voltage/temperature to the point of flickering constantly, at random, or not at all... there is NO consistency.

@user2C47 3 года назад

I'm sure a lot of this has to do with the dimmer. The dimmers I had would change their duty cycle based on small changes in line voltage or load, and at some points on their scale would start oscillating at a lower harmonic of the line frequency. I eventually ended up replacing them with smart PWM controllers running at 16kHz.

@SeanBZA 3 года назад

@@FakeJeep Well hard to make a flourescent discharge lamp dimmable, they do not respond well to simple dimmer circuits. While you can definitely dim the long tubes, with an electronic ballast with dimming input, making one compatible with a wall dimmer is like having a McLaren F1 sports car, and expecting it to drive 300MPH on model T Ford wheels and tyres.

@Christopher-N 3 года назад

I've never used dimmable CFLs, but I have used 3-way CFLs, which worked reasonably well, though their packaging left something to be desired.

@TJJewett 3 года назад

I kinda liked the dark start effect that some of these had. I have very sensitive eyes, and when I would turn on my lights in the morning to wake up. I liked having the light gently get brighter as my eyes acclimated. I know this wasn't intentional, but IMHO, it was a happy accident.

@SimonBauer7 2 года назад

you could get phillips hue led bulbs which are programmable to software

@gorgarath 2 года назад

The old CFL bulbs I had put in the bathroom vanity were like that. I found it annoying at first, but came to appreciate it in the mornings or when waking up in the night to go to the bathroom. Though still found it slightly annoying any time. Had 1 of the bulbs fail fairly quickly, a few months maybe. Then another 6 or 8 months later another failed. I ran it on the 2 bulbs for another couple years before a 3rd bulb failed and I probably went another month or so before I replaced all 4.

@CT-vm4gf 2 года назад

That’s a good point! You have to pay a considerable amount to have that feature these days.

@conman1395 2 года назад

@@CT-vm4gf not really, just install a dim switch and use dimmable bulbs

@claireredfield4842 2 года назад

@@conman1395 You'd be surprised the amount of people who don't know how to change their own switches.

@marcush4741 Год назад

I remember when we first got our CFLs. Our grandparents bought enough for my mother to replace every light in her house. They figured they were more expensive, and if my mother was going to replace all of the bulbs one by one, she'd probably be having to start replacing the new bulbs before she got through the entire house. None of us expected them to last so much longer than incandescent bulbs. We figured it was marketing exaggeration. But the month we switched from incandescent to CFLs was the single most dramatic reduction in energy cost I've ever seen. My mother literally called the power company to see if there was a mistake because we could NOT afford to be hit with back-payment a couple months down the road. These things were a miracle when they came out. Yes, they're getting eclipsed by LEDs now... but these were like a revolution when they came out.

@RJARRRPCGP Год назад

For me, CFLs were only a revolution, when you're not using 4-foot T8 fluorescents. I realized that I was missing out, back in the '00s! Because I had an issue where CFLs that I got in 2008, because I was in anti-incandescent-mode, because the incandescent that last remember being given to me in likely February, 2004, blew out in July, 2004. (I also didn't know that there were better incandescents!) I went CFL-only at the house that I just moved to on March 5, 2008. The issue was that the bedroom was dim! By sometime in the 2010s, I changed to a mix of incandescent and 4-foot T12s. Ironically. Because they were better than the last batch of CFLs that I got. (except for the living room ceiling fixture and kitchen ceiling fixture)

@jimroberts3651 Год назад

In the UK, most light fittings have a BC connector with the adjacent metal body connected to ground. When CFL lamps die, they often short neutral to ground causing the RCCB to trip and turn off half the lights and half the power outlets in the house. This problem is less common with ES lamps.

@czibbell74 3 года назад

Has a whole house worth of cfl's in front of him... "I don't miss these." I should think not, they haven't left. Lol

@Victorianous 3 года назад

On last count I had 25 of the twisty ones on his desk. I didn't count the other types. It's as if he added another bulb to the table for every B roll shot or introduction of a different lamp type.

@sh4dy832 3 года назад

They make a nice addition to the bulk of space heaters and toasters...

@Carewolf 3 года назад

I had one burn out after 10 years. Then when replacing it with a LED found the socket was unstable and a LED bulb would blink. Then I missed CFLs.. Though I guess fixing the fixure is better :D

@ressljs 3 года назад

I've mostly moved on to LED, but I probably have two or three CFL's somewhere in my house. I definitely like LED more, but CFL were way better than incandescent.

@fisheye42 3 года назад

“I wanna know what killed these tribbles!”

@JayEmGe 2 года назад

When you said that compact florescent light bulbs "are no more", it's kind of wild, it seems like it was only yesterday that they were released.

@capitalinventor4823 2 года назад

It’s been about 30 years since they were readily available in grocery and hardware stores. I bought my first one around 1990 from a grocery store. I think it cost $20 and it took a couple of minutes to brighten after turning it on but the quality of light was wonderful. I used it in a bedside lamp for over a decade and only stopped when I changed lamps. The bulb didn’t fit in the new lamp. It wasn’t twisty in shape but had a couple of loops about 1.5 times taller than a regular bulb.

@NoogahOogah 2 года назад

From the time I was born to the end of high school (2013) my family used incandescent bulbs. Once I moved out I got CFLs and felt like I was really modern. Apparently I was actually decades behind. Man that’s a depressing feeling, lol.

@JayEmGe 2 года назад

@@NoogahOogah I'm thinking that was my case as well.

@SergioLeonardoCornejo 2 года назад

I still use them since LED bulbs are expensive in my country. However, I consider all light sources contextually valid. We use what we are technologically capable of using.

@mikek6298 2 года назад

There have been CFLs for a while, but I'd say they weren't consumer viable until the 2000s, and only in the last 5 years or so have LEDs become the norm. I remember my dad getting one the very first time he saw them in Home Depot, and that was about 2012-2013. I still have to convince my boss to get LEDs every time we order bulbs.

@TheMusicalMedic Год назад

A year later and I still have several of these that just won't give out, just trucking along.

@chriscordell6973 2 года назад

Thanks for this, very informative!

@Taneth 3 года назад

When I was little, I actually liked the ability to turn on my bedroom light and not be instantly blinded, because it came on dim and it'd be off by the time it would get bright.

@russellhltn1396 3 года назад

Yes, there were places where that was most certainly valued a feature, not a bug!

@danielthechskid 3 года назад

Yep, gave your dilated pupils from being asleep time to constrict.

@kuebbisch 3 года назад

I always had a 25 watt bulb at my bedside for that reason. Now a 2 watt LED is plenty bright to find the way out after waking up.

@bf584 3 года назад

I would like if I could find an LED light for my bathroom at night that did this.

@cherrysdiy5005 3 года назад

@@bf584 Perhaps a GE 0.5W LED night light? It emits about 5 lumens.

@Marcos-bo6vi Год назад

The remark on plastics and UV was superb!

@Prince_Asuda Год назад

I remember the brightness upgrade for these being amazing at the time. However, the biggest design flaw that I encountered was that when mounted sideways over our bathroom mirror, they tended to attract ladybugs that snuck in yearly through some unknown gap in the room. While this on its own might not be a problem, the shape of the bulb caused a concerning issue. One day I went into the room and noticed a burning smell. Turned out that several light-bleached ladybugs over the years had accumulated and had been "cooking" in the extreme heat of the bulbs. The hollow space in the middle was perfect for light-loving bugs and dust to sit in undetected. This could have been a minor fire hazard if left unchecked. Needless to say we quickly replaced these particular bulbs with LEDs when we could.

@sunniestpluto 2 года назад

I love that every few minutes you added more bulbs to the table it went from 1 bulb to over 40 by the end

@ralynedin 2 года назад

I just now noticed this.

@neildocherty 3 года назад

As a percentage of total bloopers, how many would you say that long tube caused?!

@TechnologyConnections 3 года назад

More than 50%

@atamawaruidesuka 3 года назад

@@TechnologyConnections Seeing that, I was thinking a blanket of some kind could have been helpful maybe... soften the noise

@tomaszstaz6295 3 года назад

@@TechnologyConnections why don't You just move a bit backwards so the tube would not be above desk?

@skuzzyj 3 года назад

@@TechnologyConnections I'm surprised you didn't put a sock each end and just keep it out of frame so the tappy-taps were muffled

@TheAnkMan 3 года назад

@@TechnologyConnections To save recording time when seeing that is getting annoying may be remove the noise in post production. Or just leave it, make an unscripted funny comment instead. :-)

@fp4man542 2 года назад

After watching your video, I remembered buying the first readily available CFLs (Philips SL18), way back in the early 1980s. There followed a quick search through my storage cupboards, and I was delighted to find that I still had it. Powering it up, after over 30 years of inactivity, I was expecting a bang, and a puff of smoke. Instead, it made a couple of soft "tink, tink" noises and staggered back into life.

@RJARRRPCGP Год назад

That's quality right there!

@catboxcleaner3532 Год назад

Bulbs repopulating the table is a funny touch. The yellow-orange bulb in the middle reminds me of the two orange CFLs I bought for outdoor porch light fixtures on Halloween night, which will likely last forever due to such lengthy intermission between use.

@chunderbunny1 3 года назад

I remember taking home a "free sample CFL" from school in the early 90's. It takes a while to turn on these days, but it's still there, illuminating my old bedroom!

@kimgkomg 3 года назад

Your school gave you a lightbulb? I'm gonna have to see the full story there

@dickbutt7854 3 года назад

@@kimgkomg right? Usually the schools take my money so I can't afford to buy CFLs

@AndrooUK 3 года назад

Before the days of planned obsolescence...

@kimgkomg 3 года назад

@@AndrooUK so regular obsolescence

@splewy 2 года назад

I always found it interesting how gas discharge lighting (fluorescent, metal halide, HID and neon) was basically the Windows Vista of lighting. Something that attained reasonable market share, but never fully replaced its predecessor (Incandescent; Windows XP), yet was itself rapidly abandoned when its own successor (LED; Windows 7) came around.

@jasonhaynes2952 2 года назад

Love the analogy, but CFL's were more like Windows 8. As in, was a bad idea from the start, and completely sucked. We were all saved when something better came out (windows 10). The manufacturer (Microsoft) had to admit they made a horrible product.

@splewy 2 года назад

@@jasonhaynes2952 Yeah true, CFLs always sucked. Other forms of gas discharge lighting were pretty good. HID for example offered lighting performance in car headlights that couldn’t even be matched by LEDs until around 3-4 years ago.

@specialopsdave 2 года назад

@@jasonhaynes2952 The problem with that analogy is that there were 2 valid advantages of CFL over Incandescent; there is no advantage to Windows 8 over 7

@electrictroy2010 2 года назад

I’d rather replace all my bulbs with CFLs than Windows 8. CFLs reduce energy use 75% and last a really long time (some of mine date to 1995). Windows 8 has nothing positive about it. Not one damn thing. The original XP/vista/7 analogy was better.

@mikevcampbell 2 года назад

That's a great comparison. Microsoft replaced XP with Vista and tried forcing everyone to adopt the new tech. I hate them so hard, if they weren't banned I would have gladly continued with incadensent until LED's came out. I would have gladly paid more in energy costs to avoid those stupid twisty pieces of garbage.

@TeriWilde Год назад

I've had the same CFL in my standard Lamp for 15 years and used daily... it's very efficient. And it's great to hear a shout out to Big Clive, one of my favourite YT'bers...

@robytar 5 месяцев назад

Bought around 15 - 20 CFLs in like 2008 or so, still use several, others in a box and never once had to throw any away due to failure. Have some still in enclosed double bulb overhead fixtures that are going strong 15 yrs.

@ledraps22 3 года назад

after watching the bloopers at the end, this act of laying the lamp on the table silently 3:43 is extraordinary

@Heylon1313 3 года назад

The whole 121 metric centimeter long rod! Very impressive indeed.

@StraightOuttaJarhois 3 года назад

You can tell he's doing it _extremely_ gingerly.

@Case_ 3 года назад

And it only took him 357 takes to get it right ;)

@joelhaynie5056 3 года назад

The CFL flood lamps slow start is a feature! I use those in my bathrooms, for ease on my eyes in the morning.

@BastiElektronik 3 года назад

We use them for that, too. All other CFLs got replaced after dying with LED but the bathroom ones, they got NOS CFLs like the IKEA one with the slow start.

@Hansengineering 3 года назад

Shit this is the best idea. My rental trailer has the cheapest highest color temp LED bulbs everywhere. The bathroom is eye searing and I just don't use the light in there until an hour after I have woken up.

@kaitlyn__L 3 года назад

@@Hansengineering 5000-6000K completely baffles me. It’s like blue LEDs but even worse! You will thank yourself if you pull them out and replace them with 2300-2700K ones. (Actual values - a lot of lights which claim to be 2700K “warm white” are clearly 3000K “neutral white” instead.)

@pucktf 3 года назад

I use them for the same reason in the bedroom, they start gradually and that's much more comfortable when getting up in the morning...

@chunye215 3 года назад

@@kaitlyn__L for some reason they are (were?) fairly popular in China. When I looked out the window in the evening at the building on the other side like half of the windows wete lit in cold white light. Never really figured out if people prefer it or don't care or dunnowhat. It's not like one is cheaper than the other.

@candycoatedcactus 4 месяца назад

I frequently listen to this channel while gaming, the orange CFL on the table caught me by surprise. And the way he was slowly zooming out to add more space! We love you Alec. Keep making the goofy jokes, you're the best!

@ARockRaider 5 месяцев назад

i was a bit young at the time, but if memory serves the idea that we would be forced to use these bulbs that didn't work well in all replacement situations was one big reason my family didn't like them. government requiring use of a tech that isn't ready to be mainstream yet will really hinder public acceptance of that tech.

@jasonreed7522 3 года назад

7:48 thats the quote of the century "We know how easily the general public engages with nuance"

@Sciguy95 3 года назад

"Alot of the aversion came from people that really just didn't know much about lighting." I feel like this idea could be applied to a HUGE amount of different technologies.

@gerrykavanagh 3 года назад

This is literally what the internet has become.

@raptordad6653 2 года назад

Love this channel. Informative, fun and upbeat. :)

@dfirth224 Год назад

CFLs were always intended to be temporary. They were invented at UC Berkeley in California and were meant to be used until LED bulbs became cheaper. Many people are not aware most florescent light fixtures can be converted to LED. Just disconnect the ballast and connect the line voltage wires directly to the wires going to the sockets. Commercial LED bulbs can work on 120, 208, 240, or 277 volts.