In "Defense" of the Sonic Movie's OST 

A reminder that the drowning theme was played when sonic saved knuckles underwater but it’s so quiet that nobody can hear it 💀

Hearing that the Sonic score was inspired by Tom and Jerry reminded me of the time that a kid was wearing a Sonic shirt in the store I work at and a family member came up to him, pointed at his shirt, and asked, "Is that Tom and Jerry"? and the kid said "IT'S SONIC." angrily.

I just saw Junkie XL crying while walking down the street with his pants down idk what was that was all about

I honestly think if he went for the style heard in his solo projects the movie would've had a way better soundtrack, it fits sonic in my opinion

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Junkie is such a boring bland composer and gets attached to music of series with BEAUTIFUL and ICONIC themes but makes the most boring, generic and downright disrespectful to the music stuff. He hates motifs sm and it feels in a way disrespectful to the original composers. It would of been sick hearing THE ACTUAL FULL DROWNING THEME but nope hid it for a milisecond. Or Super Sonic music in the Super Sonic scene but nope. There’s alot of vids on YT that prove too how much better and impactful better scoring and using the game music makes scenes better. Now with his stance on Ai and Sonic 3, I PRAY we get another composer and like you said like Knuckles or Transformers One (yeah he was announced at first but got replaced by THE GUY WHO DID THE TRANSFORMERS PRIME MUSIC SRS IM SO EXCITED FOR THAT SCORE). I hope like that tho Jeff and the others get someone like Pat Casey (who he stated he’d love to do Sonic 3) to do the score mix with a great composer like the Mario Movie did. We can’t have another SONIC movie with a bad score and a lack of any motif’s/references to the game esp taking from SA2.

Watch the same thing happen with Live and Learn where they bought the motif to use in the trailers and then for the actual movie its more of the same score from the last two movies

So.... why are we ( by we I mean SEGA ) still working with this guy ? Like. I already knew the movie OSTs were not up to the standard of the Sonic franchise, but I didn't know that the composer stood this firm in his stance. It's widely agreed that these OSTs just aren't good enough, so why have we not changed composers yet ? There's nothing to lose by hiring someone else, is there ? The original themes and motifs composed aren't anything, you don't need to bother paying royalties to use them in the 3rd movie, just get rid of them. Get a composer who understands the appeal of Sonic music and the nuances of theatrical sound to direct the music. Am I wrong ? What am I not understanding here.

The way Junkie XL treats Fury Road and Wonder Woman compared to Sonic and the Godzilla vs Kong films is like night and day. Fuck, at least the Godzilla vs Kong duology had an interesting use of synths which is probably something Adam Wingard wanted since a similar style was used for the Netflix Death Note film. The Sonic films really got nothing that separates their OSTs from every other film score, and it's a shame since the franchise has tons of iconic and catchy tunes just dying to have that cinematic redux.

damn, can't believe the composer for need for speed: prostreet would do this

Alright so, I'll admit I enjoy Robotnik's motif, but MAN Junkie XL just seems so... cynical about the Sonic movies. Sonic is something very special for a lot of people. Even if Sonic isn't special to Junkie XL specifically, it's still the responsibility of a good composer to honor the fact that this thing is special to so many others. Instead, Junkie XL has taken the mindset that this is simply some dumb kids movie that doesn't matter, and he should just get it over with. He doesn't care, so apparently no one else does either. It's simply very disheartening, especially when other video game films have FANTASTIC scores (i.e. Angry Birds and Super Mario). Maybe one day he'll realize that Sonic is special to a lot of people, but I sadly doubt it. Edit: And his Godzilla music is disappointing, too.

They literally took a song from Antman and the Wasp, and that was one of the more interesting pieces of the Sonic 2 soundtrack

This explains why I remember the licensed songs, and the original rap and R&B ending songs more than the score itself. While on topic, I think “Speed Demon” would have been a much better choice for the beginning of Sonic 2 than “It’s Tricky”.

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Great video! It's such a shame that Junkie XL didn't bring his A-game to the Sonic movies like he did for, for example, his DC scores. Imagine if the themes of Team Sonic, Dr Robotnik and the many other motifs had the same emotional and epic punch present in tracks like Flight, Goodbye My Son, You Die or I Do, A Beautiful Lie/Men Are Still Good, Is She With You, This is My World, The Red Capes Are Coming, Cyborg Becoming/Human All Too Human, Superman Rising Part 1 & 2, At the Speed of Force, and The Crew at Warpower! It's very unfortunate, and we can only hope the next Sonic movie projects improve their soundtracks, whether they bring him back or replace him.

So I wasn’t the only one who heard that Beat It intro sample in Deadpool. I knew I wasn’t crazy

In all fairness, neither does the Sonic cartoons use music from the video games. The intro to AOSTH is the only song that remixes the Sonic 1 title screen with In The Hall of The Mountain King. Very generic cartoon music in the end of the day. In The Hall of The Mountain King must be in the public domain of music as you hear it in other trailers and is why Inspector Gadget 2015 also uses that music instead of reusing the original. Sonic X and in my opinion, at least tries to go for a more cool and epic sounding score that still feels very Sonic-like, but that's just the Japanese version. Yeah, for those who don't know, Sonic X's soundtrack also has the same music issue as Sonic CD where 4kids gave their own soundtrack to the English dub for that show. Not all of the 4kids soundtrack sounds awful but just generic really. The title card theme in Sonic Satam and Knothole's theme is the only theme I can recognize and all the Robotnik themes too. Sonic Prime also sounds cool as they also try to use a very 16 bit video game sounding score similar to the SEGA genesis. Overall, SEGA doesn't own the rights to Sonic music because SEGA usually doesn't make they're own music in house. They're usually hiring outside artists to make music for their games. Other game companies are that way too. I think Doom and some other franchise are the same way. So that's pretty much the main reason why we may never hear accurate music in the movies. We can't argue against the legal copyright system. Nintendo on the other hand does make their own music which is why listening to Mario music in the cartoon shows and movies aren't an issue. They all own the rights. Which is why I still give the Mario movie a pass despite how much celebrity music they still use. The original score in that movie made a better effort. As for Sonic movie 3 or anything else Sonic related, I'm not really expecting the music to sound faithful or accurate after all I just said. SEGA just does things differently. We heard Green Hill Zone in the first Sonic movie traser, Emerald Hill Zone for the second movie teaser, and now we hear Live 'n' Learn in the third movie teaser. I'm not really expecting the third movie to have Sonic music in it, but that's not what I'm entirely looking for. I just want to see a good movie which so far, I have enjoyed the past two Sonic movies. So that's pretty much all for me.

I didn't knew that Junkie XL made the OST for Godzilla VS Kong, I hope in Sonic 3 he improves since being based of SA2 it doesn't have the restrictions of the first 3 classic games....... at least I hope they use the main theme or else the theater will burn

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ill give him this, tails' theme fits pretty well for the character

In the last bonus segment, what was the point of covering Sonic 2’s other posters if not to even rate the Sonic 2 game reference one? I woulda at least liked to have heard what ya think of that one.

I can only imagine how insane that scene in Sonic 2 where he runs across the ocean would have been if someone like Hans Zimmer (whom Paramount can 100% afford, I’m not falling for that) had scored it instead. The Dark Knight, Interstellar, Inception, Man of Steel, he brings such powerful energy to everything he scores. Even if it sucks like TASM 2 (which I think is actually the perfect tone for Sonic.)

*Finally,* bout time someone on RU-vid made an entire video about the Sonic Movies lack of incorporated game music and Tom Holkenborg himself. Thank you. Sigh, time to be prepared for disappointment at the end of the year.☹️

I appreciate that you mentioned that Junkie also did the soundtrack for GxK and The New Empire, because I'm a fan of both franchises and I also see a lot of people in the Godzilla fandom complaining about how the soundtracks for those two films are vastly inferior to KOTM soundtrack (with some exceptions) and also how it greatly wastes the opportunity to adapt classic themes for the monsters. Like Mothra. I'm amazed how he managed to have two fandoms against him for the same reason

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Live and Learn, The theme from Sonic Adventure 2 will supposedly be in Sonic Movie 3, But in what form? We don't know.

12:01 I KNEW IT! FINALLY, someone else noticed it!

4:10 why do you sound like Roger's Sonic?

I just know...we an't gonna get live and learn...for real JXL is gonna fuck it up somehow...

Honestly? My dream composer for Sonic 3 movie is Brian Tyler, he nailed Mario movie music, he did NFS: The Run soundtrack and he does soundtrack for main Fast & Furious films, guy is literally has Sonic energy on its soundtrack, just give him more than just orchestra (like for example usage of Guitar and DRUMS) and he will nail Sonic soundtrack, i bet he would do it as well if he would did soundtrack for Sonic game

Basiclaly, SEGA fucked up and continues to do so...tale as old as time.

Finally someone is talking about the biggest flaw of the movies

Dude went crazy in nfs pro street like damn his ost in that game was crazy good

Yeah his score is terrible. Sonic 3 should be even worse as he'll just use AI for the whole project.

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I have come to like sonics motif in the movies and robotniks aint bad

If we do get a new composer, I'd want someone like Mark Mothersbaugh, or Steven Price, or Michael Giacchino, or Ramin Djawadi.

I dont believe anyone who says there are even "motifs" in the sonic movies. i watched both of them and the score was completely anonymous, and barely audible. There was 0 difference between it and brian tyler's marvel shit. Utterly disposable.

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they shoudkvd gotn me to be the soundtrack just be a day to learn music theory

Junkie XL Made the GvK & GxK themes which are Some of my Fav themes :]

It's really not looking good for Sonic 3

I am kind of hoping that they will get rid of Junkie at some point I like the synthy sound of his soundtracks but everthing he makes and does is generic.

Get him out of sonic and godzilla I'm tired of his bland music

The sonic movies are just usual hollywood slop. Almost nothing in these movies is right.