Have both in my household. My son has a step-thru Velotric Nomad 1 (less than 400 miles on it so far) and I have a Aventon Aventure 1 with 3900 miles on it. We both love our bikes but noted one thing that Scott did not mention in the video comparison (which I loved by the way). The Velotric has a one piece stem, which prevented us from installing a stem riser (to enable a more upright ride position). This ended up being accomplished by replacing the stem with one that had the angle adjustable. To increase the height, we put the angle almost straight up. Since his Velotric was a newer one, the headlight was mounted directly to a threaded hole in the center of the stem, right below the handlebars. When we replaced the stem, we had to find a mounting bracket to allow the headlight to be mounted above the fender. Overall, otherwise, the bikes are quite similar.
Thanks for watching first of all. I ended up putting adjustable stems on both bikes. I am pretty sure I cover those in the "accessories videos" for each of the bikes. My version of the Nomad 1 had the light on the front fork (thats why it worked for me with no issues) but I totally understand the struggle that had to be with that headlilght mount after putting on the new stem. What did you use?
What a great and honest Comparison. Not a winner, not a loser, but two different personalities one is better in someways the other and others. We could sure use more comparisons like this. Most of the time someone is very biased and it shows common much respect to you for not letting that happen great job.
I won’t buy another Aventon bike. I purchased my Aventure (costing $1999) last May 2022. They switched out the Shimano Acera for an Altus which will not stay in adjustment like other rear derailleurs. Even though the website says they substitute equal or better components they refused to resolve the problem. Instead, Aventon’s customer service insinuated I wasn’t shifting gears properly. I’ve been riding and working on bikes my whole life. They also shipped a 657Wh battery (printed on the label attached to the battery) instead of the specified 720Wh battery. Now, after 10 months/560 miles, the bottom bracket has a noticeable clic/pop when heavier pressure is applied to the crank. I’ve learned my lesson. My replacement bike will be either a Ride1Up or Trek. Buyer beware!!!
Sorry to hear that. I would say that the majority of us has not had the same issues you have. Which totally sucks for sure. I hope you find the right bike for you.
@@scotthardesty Thanks Scott. I hope you did not have to pay for your Aventure 1 and 2. It sucks to pay $2K for an ebike that loses half its value in seven months. My Aventure had 3 parts subs. The derailleur was an Altus which would not stay in adjustment. I replaced it with a Deore M592 which has worked much better. I now know that the stronger the derailleur spring the better it will stay in "tune". One silver lining, the Deore I installed allowed me to swap the stock 12T-32T cassette for an 11T-36T cassette. Huge improvement. The worst sub was the SCUDpower Tech battery which says right on the label that it's a 657Wh battery not the 720Wh battery they claim to provide. The ZOOM brakes are OK, although cheaper than Bengal brakes. My "short list" for my next ebike is either the Ride1UP Prodigy or the Trek Fuel EXE 9.5. The Trek was "perfect". Unfortunately, the way ebikes seem to depreciate, I'm reluctant to buy it and potentially lose thousands of dollars less than a year later.
@@livemike410 Actually I did purchase both my Aventures. Sounds like you came out great on with those changes that were made. Sucks about that battery tho. I am also looking at getting an actual emtb for myself as well. It's just really hard to spend that kind of money on those bikes, so I totally understand.
@@livemike410I know how you feel I have a battered Kona major Jake In my bedroom I haven't ridden in so many years because it's tattered, was my dream bike, ide say screw . motors if I could have it back, felt like the wind would propel me in those 120psi gatorskins, miss the zen like feel of that lightweight machine
Thanks Scott! V v helpful and very precisely put together, everything I needed to know, I passed the tail light and took the $ savings on Nomad 1, now excited for it to show up. Will be waiting on your Nomad 1 accessories video..
Hi Scott, great video! Because of your video, just purchased the nomad 1 a couple days ago and is en route to be delivered! Great video!! Look forward to your accessories video on your nomad 1!
We picked Aventon over Velotric due to the very small differences needed for female rider 5 foot 1 inch as Pace 500.2 has shorter Minimum seat height and reach. Step thru was also a requirement.
Thanks brother for the video ... I agree the Velotric seems on Par with the adventure for sure. I have the same size and color adventure that you have and I LOVE LOVE LOVE that friggin bike, just got back from a 12 mile on my beach hear. I loves that Aventon has a great dealer network and I can go to my local guy to have it worked on at least where I live in NC .... 7 months in and 1,400 miles. Keep the videos coming love them all. One more thing 45 degrees is freezing!
Nice Job Scott! I have both of these bikes. I have the sand Velotric and it is sick! The extra 5-6mph that it gets compared to the aventon throttle only makes a big difference for me
Great review, thanks! Keep in mind, when you count, you start with 0, not 1. So, 0-1-2-3 is the actual count for getting to 3. Look at any stopwatch, or sports video with a count. Other than that, awesome!
I'd like to see a hill-climbing and 0-20 mph comparison. I've read that the Nomad has better acceleration and torque than most other 750 watt fat tire ebikes.
I'd love to see a video where you compare the new Aventure 2 against the Nomad 1 please. These are the two bikes I am torn between and I just can't decide if the Torque sensor of the Aventure 2 is worth it over the torque of the Nomad. Here in Socal, it's hot, and I want to go into the mountains trail riding, so torque for hills is more useful than out and out speed, and the other videos i've seen indicate that the Nomad has better torque than the Aventure 2.
I don't think its fair to compare a torque sensor bike to a cadence sensor bike. They are two different animals in my opinion. I did test the Aventure 2 on a mtb trail and it did excellent. You might want to check out that video.
After spending months researching hundreds of e-bikes and finally narrowing them down to these two, I found your video... All of that time and frying my brain when all I had to do was type in Aventon vs. Velotric! Bingo! Thanks a million Scott! I appreciate the time you took for this comparison. I'm going to make it a hunting e-bike. Do you think either of them would handle the abuse? My only concern is the customer support and young age of the Velotric Co. and it's not a plug and play Bafang motor, however the Velotric motor may be able to be replaced with a Bafang.
After some thought, I am leaning more towards the Aventure. Here is why. 1. It is easy to remove both fenders on Aventure for wooded trails, with the Velotric you would have to remove the rear tire to remove the fender. 2. The Aventure has more NM's of torque. It's only 5NM more than the nomad but I feel since you would be pulling a cart with a animal on the back (after the hunt of course) then you want ore torque. 3. The green or tan color of the bike would be a good choice for keeping concealed (green more than tan) due to the bright colors of the nomad (although velotric does a sand color for the high step but only bright colors for the step thru). With that being said. I did have an issue with my Nomad and contacted customer support... they sent out a replacement part (my front brake rotor was bent during shipping) within 24 hours. Also... did you know, although Velotric is a new company its made from the people of Lime bikes? yeah, those bikes people rent out in the city, so I know this Nomad 1 is well made (even though the rear hub motor doesn't say Bafang). I hope this helps.
Thanks for all your detailed reviews. I'm trying to decide between these right now. So many great reviewers but your content is the best for me. Not only for the clarity, but we weight the same :-) hahahaha.
I have watched a lot of reviews on the Nomad 1. Everyone loves it. I was going to buy one until I emailed their customer service with no response. That changed my mind about buying from this company.
Sorry that has stopped you from getting one. I have had to deal with customer service a few times and never had an issue. I wouldn't let one missed email stop you from getting a great bike.
@@scotthardesty Thanks for the reply. My other issue I can't find a shop that will service it when needed. I have called at least 6 bike shops. They all say the same thing. They only work on e-bike brands that they sale.
@@stllda909 Sorry to hear that, I've ran into that as well. Luckily, Chicago has a ton of bike shops and I found a shop that will work on whatever brand I bring them.
@@scotthardesty They do have an office in California about 40 minutes from me. I don't know if it is a corporate office or a repair shop. I'm going to call them and find out. Thanks for your reply.
Looks like the nomad wheels are further apart, like you could stretch out more on it when riding out of the saddle. Thinking of getting the t1st though as it's a stealthy gravel machine, wouldn't get as good range but perhaps be more fun. Wish I could feel the torque on the t1st, wish i could test any ebike, nothing in my area
@@scotthardesty appreciate the offer,I'm in Michigan, looks like a nice bike. I'm pretty light like 150 probably get descent range. Ever pedal or home without the battery
Great video, thanks for the work! Considering the price drop on the Aventure (due to the release of the Aventure.2), and both of these bikes are now at the same price ($1499), would you still recommend the Nomad over the Aventure? I don't currently own an electric bike, but researching so I can pull the trigger very soon, I'm a slightly heavier rider (270lbs, sloowwwly trending down), I think/hope these might be a good fit for me, though I do live in San Francisco, so I have big hills to commute over, do you think these would do fine with hills and a heavy guy? Aventon brand seems to be available in a few shops around here, so leaning towards the Aventure in case of issues/repairs down the line
Thank you. At the end of the video, I state why I would choose one or the other. I have to admit. I love them both. You can't go wrong with either. But if you want that rear tail/brake light. Then the Aventure is way to go.
@@YoGiN0 I was told by Velotric will have a integrated rear/fender brake light with the next update that can also be retrofitted on the Nomad 1. I personally think the Velotric looks are really nice and looks expensive.
Both look to be good choices but with the Aventure 2 now out, that's the one I'd pick over the Nomad even though the 2 costs more. Torque sensor seals deal for me.
@@scotthardesty Someone said the Nomad is way better for lower end torque and steeper hills. Would you agree? I live in a very hilly area and debating which one to get.
Nice video, very informative. I am on the fence between these two bikes. I know the Nomad claims 55 mile range but what do you think a realistic range would be for someone your size? Also, I noticed on one of your other videos you said the Aventon pedals were close to hitting the ground on some trails. Have you had this issue with the Nomad?
I am literally out testing the range right now (video coming up in the next couple days). I have not had the same issue with the Nomad 1 as I did with the Aventure on the trails either. So that’s good news!
@@scotthardesty Awesome, I will definitely be watching that video. Have you had a chance to pedal the Velotric without any pedal assist? Is it more like peddling a regular bike or is it a lot more work like it is with the Aventure?
@@yabbadabbadoo4397 On my long range test, I did run out of battery power and had to pedal about 2 miles home. No issues. Way easier than no power on the Aventure. You will see it in the long range video.
Another great video. I will be purchasing a 26" fat tire bike in the Spring. I already have the Level 2 and 20" folder. The aventure and Nomad are now on my short list. Hey, where did you get that sweet light bracket for the Aventure headlight? I put and adjustable stem on the Level 2 and lost the ability to mount it correctly.
@@scotthardesty I see. The level 2 must be different then. My light attached directly to the original stem. The holes on the adjustable stem do not line up.
@@scotthardesty one of my motors is like that, it's only a 500 w (1,040w peak) on paper, and no matter how much voltage you put so it won't go faster than 26mph, but has more torque than my 1,000 w Bafang, makes great for trails.
95% of my miles are on paved roads. I like having fat tires for those as they still absorb the rough streets of Chicago. When going off road, the bike is a beast and definitely builds confidence in its performance and stability.
Hi Scott e-bike velotric resist any wether? I’m gonna leave out door back yard, it’s that bike washable? What you recommend, a don’t have space in my garage and don’t like inside house…. I would like to here you opinion. Make a video clean (wash) your e-bike! Thanks
I am not the ideal to ask about that. I actually power wash my bikes (people don't like that) but thats how I do it. If I had to leave mine outside, I would find a cap for the where the battery plugs in on the bike to keep moisture out of it. Then take the battery inside. If you can cover it, that would also be a good thing.
Hi Scott, we’re interested getting the Aventure but for some reason I couldn’t find any compatible rear mounted child seat. Do you have any suggestions or recommendations? Thanks in advance!
Sorry for slow reply. I did some searching myself for you to no avail. I know that I saw one or two posts in one of the Aventon FB groups I am in but I couldn't find it. I know its doable!
Thank you so much for this comparison video. Because I'm a 250 pound man, I've decided a fat tire bike would be best for me and these are the two I've come down to. I think I'm leaning a little more towards the nomad because of its hill climbing ability. My question to you is which of these bikes would be a better daily commuter on a mostly paved road?
Both of these bikes will perform the same on paved roads as a commuter. I have noticed that I started riding my Nomad more due to the fact that it doesn’t have the delay in the throttle or pedal assist. That really helps when sitting in traffic and taking off from a red light or dead stop.
Many bike manufacturers are this way. Sometimes they have to use different components when there is a shortage of parts. This is pretty common and not that big of a concern as the components they use should be of the same quality.
Help me decide on bike height 5’11 200#. Which size medium or large frame. Thank u I thought the torque asst on the adventure there would be zero ghost peddling Tim
I have been looking for a channel that features someone like yourself reviewing and riding these fat tire e bikes!! I'm a really big guy (6'2" 390 pounds), and dying to get back into biking after a long reprieve. I noticed both bikes have a 400 pound weight cap. Does this seem realistic to you based on your experience with both frames, crankshaft, and hubs?
I have total faith in both bikes based on the max weight they can carry. I feel that either of these bikes are an excellent option (you might want the step thru version to get off and on easier). Thanks for the kind words and I hope you find the right bike! Let me know which one you choose!
@Scott Hardesty Thanks Scott, I like the look of the Nomad a wee bit more, but the Aventon is readily available here in Canada. Yes I agree - the step through design would be easier for me. Again, thanks for all the hard work and time spent producing your videos. P.S. Love Chicago!
Finally have decided to take the plunge...the Nomad isn't a readily available bike in Canada - and I checked out the Aventure - found the frame to be a wee bit compact for a Large....so I think I may go for the Himaway Zebra step through. Too bad you don't have a review for this bike as I value your opinion. Looking forward to hitting the trails and paths once again. Thanks once again!
I received from Velotric the instructions for unlocking the speed control. It seemed pretty easy to do. Thanks again for your help and I look forward to your future videos that you post on RU-vid.
I live in rural Ohio and I'm definitely considering the nomad. Lighting really isn't an issue for me because, if I'm going to be riding at night, I'd better be lit up like a Christmas tree or I'll end up a greasy spot on the road anyway. No bike lanes in Amish country. Oddly, e-bikes are becoming very popular among the Amish. Some kind of loophole involved there
@@scotthardesty Sorry, my browser said the video was made 3 months ago. My question is which Aventon, Aventure 2 or Level 2 would perform better on the street? The Aventure 2 is about 23 pounds heavier but has the 750 motor. I am conflicted on which to get as they are about the same price.
See... that's a question I have wondered myself. Unfortunately, I don't have a Level 2 to do that comparison. But here is what I can tell you. Now this is with the Aventure 1 and a Level 1. I have a buddy who owns a level 1 so we both went out for a ride (of course I did a video on that...hahaha) but afterwards he told me that he regretted getting the level as he felt my Aventure was able to do more. I think when it comes to the Aventure 2 or the Level 2, if you have very little plans on taking your bike off road and it just be a city bike, the level is going to be your choice. Both bikes will get you that top speed (once unlocked) and with the level having skinnier tiers there is less drag on the bike. So I don't believe the bigger motor on the Aventure 2 would come into play on performance. I wish I had a Level 2 to make that comparison. Up until now, I have had to purchase my Aventures but it seems that Aventon has seen value in my videos and added me to the roster for new bike reviews. I wish I could be of more help.
Why do these companies lie when it comes to range? Range is easily proven. Same with e - cars. The term real world range makes me crazy. What world are they living in? Bullshit, lying marketing. Just tell the truth.
It's not that they lie, actually, Aventon is one of the best ones that show various distances using various speeds. They use a 160-180lb rider on the lowest PAS on flat land to get those stats. I am 220 (230 at the time of making that video), I ride hills and go as fast as I can. Distance will always vary due to rider weight, riding style, terrain and weather.
