⚡ Since making this video, Tarptent have ramped up the price of the Scarp 1 by $99. This will inadvertently increase import costs too, so you're looking at circa £510 all in if you want the crossing poles too.
Yes, I saw your video and Paul Messner's and thought, you must have got a good deal. Paul is talking about £350 all in including additional poles and import. It's now £380 before shipping and import tax. - I will just have to save for a bit longer and not spend £200 on another tent compromise in the mean time.
Nice one guys, and thanks for the geology lesson professor Kev! Brave camping with those mad cows about! 😄 I've given up on the quest for the perfect tent, as long as i can fit inside I'm happy 😁 Cheers!
Haha Kev was on the ball with the geology. I felt it was safe once we got the last cows back down to kind of forced them up the Glen. Aye, I can imagine finding a tent to suit your frame can be fun. 😁
Good geology lesson from Kev there👏👏👏 Now, see here, there is absolutely no way I would be walking through that glen with those stampeding cows about, let alone camping there 😨😨😨 😄😄😄 Flippin eck Robin that was scary!!!😬😬😬 You do know they’re the most dangerous animals in the UK.😄😄😄 Anyway, nice one looked a good camp 👍👍👍
Excellent and informative tent talking there Robin - thoroughly enjoyed the vid - apart from that spooked cow near the start! Never seen a cow panic before, that would have been me off, no chance I'd have pitched there. Geological insights from Kev, mad cows, tent porn, that's the whole package for me. Thanks for sharing :)
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I wanted to get myself a Scarp 1, but they were out of stock when I was looking to order, so got myself a Tarptent Moment DW instead (the smaller 1 person tent), with the single crossing pole. It's a great tent, really light and quick to put up, and the two porch/entry layout is a real benefit, but it's really too small to enjoyably spend any time in. It is very light, 973g all in, so I still use it for when I'm bike-packing, but if I'm walking I'll take something bigger.
That’s pretty much the reason why I shifted on my TarpTent Notch, think it has a similar footprint to the Moment DW. Not had my Scarp out much, but it’s coming into autumn, so it will see more use soon.
I havde the SCARP II (2 person). I added 2 Crossing Poles INSIDE the fly by shortening them 6 inches and sewing the former exterior pole end "pockets" inside the fly JUST ABOVE THE PITCH LOC APEX. This give tremendous strength with the pole ends pushing down at the apex of this triangle. ** It's necessary to sew short, double-sided Velcro computer cable wraps inside the fly AT THE 2 LOWEST REINFORCED EXTERIOR STRAP LOCATIONS and then seam sealing the stitching. This holds the Xing Poles in place in high winds and heavy snow load. The damn tent is then nearly bombproof when fully staked and guyed out with these interior Xing Poles installed. I use mine for car camping with my wife in the American mountain west.
I do like my Jack Wolfskin exolight 1 but it's too small. I bought the exolight 2 which is perfect but a little heavy. If they bring out an exolight 1.5 ultralight, I'll be a very happy camper. Good to see you both.. winter camping is the best. 😎⛺
Great video, I never saw one of these tents in person but they look like a solid design. I have a few tents, but I still think the one that always was a fortress for me was my first tent, the Vango Banshee 200. Sure thing thing weights a tonne, but it was solid as a rock. I have a very light Big Agnes, but i don't like the door (you have to climb in the front), then it's like a coffin. My Lanshan 2 Pro is ok but it sweats something fierce. I can't justify splashing out on another tent but I agree with what you said. None are perfect. I'll continue with what I have. Great stuff -my journey through your back catalogue continues...
I've heard a few people comment on how solid the Banshee is, a good all rounder tent. If your tents work for you, then no reason to change unless you want a lighter pack or something I guess. Thanks for chipping in with comments too btw. 😎
Thank you for a great video! When you hook up the string loop for the ventilation in the end of the tent it's better to not have the guy line inside the 'loop'. You can just pull up the loop on one side of the guyline and hook it up. That way you are sure not having to pull up the ground stick to close the vent.
Just enjoying some of your back catalogue, Robin. Absolutely brilliant stuff. Some amazing locations. Looking forward to watching more. Subscribed 😎👍 ATB - Dave
Nice one Robin, I'm only -slightly- jealous of that palace you have ;) Highlight of the video for me was Dr. Kev's excellent tutorial on the local geology, what an accent! Haha! Also, that coo was having right at it, what a lad :D
Haha Kev could make geology really interesting. He ran off that speel twice so I could film him properly. 😁 I'm looking forward to seeing your new tent too btw. 🏕
@@WalkWithWallace Defo a character he needs to implement more 👌🏻 Aye, some proper stormy weather atm, so just collecting footage of that then I’ll work on the rest of it 👍🏻
Nice little adventure Robin and Kevin. I am pleased you like to your Scarp 1 Tarptent it is a good all-rounder. Those Coo's are a bit wild I think that one that ran through the valley was a bit frightened. It looks like you are finally getting a set of fit for purpose tents. I am enjoying of your videos even if I don't always make a comment. Looking forward to your next outing. Stay Safe both of you.
Cheers Douglas, good to hear from you. Aye the Scarp 1 definitely ticks lots of boxes. I'm looking forward to getting many nights out in it. The cows got trapped at the far end of the valley and that one decided enough was enough. 😆 We had to shoo the others back down, they weren't as confident to run for it.
@@WalkWithWallace Yes you just never know how the Cows are going to behave. I have been rather busy over the last few months working on a big IT project for general bearing performance predictions. That's why I'm not doing many comments. I always watch your videos with interest. Keep up the good work.
hi uncle, i just found your channel, and i really like it, watch and enjoy it and inspire me, thank you uncle, i'm a child who likes adventure and action in the wild with my dad, i support you uncle, hopefully healthy always and we can keep connected. warm greetings from lavameriu in Indonesia.
Setting that tent up would do my head in after a long hike.... though it does look cosy inside. Being an old bloke I want something simple and quick.... just got a Lanshan 2 pro and will see how that fares....
Nice one Robin, always a good laugh watching you and Kev together. He ever thought of becoming a Geography teacher?😂 Tent looks class as well, I’m busy weighing up a few options at the moment. I’d of been on top of that wind turbine if I’d seen that cow like haha. Great watch👍🏻 Cheers, Mark
@@WalkWithWallace It’s a toss up between the Fjallraven Abisko lite 2, or a Kuiu Storm Star 2 mate. Swaying towards the Kuiu with it being freestanding, fellmandave and Donna both rate it as well👍🏻
my scarp 1 is arriving this friday its a later model 2022 i got tarptent to seem seal the tent for me and also purchased the cross over polls. cant wait be out in the garden or on the front lawn to pitch and have a try out
Planning a longer hike next year and been looking at the Notch. How does the Notch compare to the Scarp? Which one would you rather be stuck inside in a rain storm for a few days?
Two very different tents, but the Scarp would win hands down, more space and would perform better in windier conditions. The Notch is more suited for multi day trips, when you want a lighter pack and space inside isn't as important.
Cheers Craig. For me the Scarp has one of the best space / weight / weather capabilities ratio. I'd have said cost too, but they've crept up in price since I made this video.
It's been good to see you, Kev and Scott talking about various tents as I'm slowly stepping into the market to prove mine. It can be a pricey mistake so good to see all of the variations. I commented to Kev about the SBP windshield too. After I saw your stove months ago I stepped into that world and their kit is so practical. Another great video and nice to see a non-harsh review for once 😉😂 All the best 👍🏼
The one good thing is, second hand tents sell really well so it's never a total loss if you don't get on with one. Speedster Stoves is the way forward if you want cheap, cheerful and reliable. 🔥
That is a nice tent Robin I like how you can adjust the inner to make more room to cook inside it did look a bit low down for sitting up is that true that cow was on a mission to get a human 😂😂😂 atvb jimmy 😎😎👍👍
Cheers Jimmy. It's not too bad for sitting up in. Plenty space in the centre. Bloody cows man, that was quite worrying the way it charged down. Me hiding behind a tree. 😂
Nice one Robin..I don't know though to be honest...that looked a bit footery when you were threading the pole? How easy would that be in really strong winds? I only have a MSR which I have had for ages and it's easy to set up albeit an inner pitch first.. That cow looked scary fast...😢 Cheers mate. Paul
Cheers Paul. If its really windy I'd just peg down the 4 corners first then thread the pole in, so definitely not a deal breaker. The inner first puts me off the MSR tents a bit, but I know their good strong tents.
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Hi Robin, I've had the scarp 1 around 6 years now for munro camping. The cross poles are good in snowy condition, the snow slides straight away down from the tent and cannot build up. Also, they separate the inner from the fly sheet really well but most of the time i cannot be bothered to carry them with me! ATB Det
@@WalkWithWallace They are not doing much for stability, as you mentioned they are not going to the ground but it was a joy to see how the snow flakes were sliding down. For stability the missing guy lines on the arch pole are much more helpful.
Used the Scarp 2 a handful of times and haven't had a problem with the sleeve. Biggest annoyance I found was having to fold it all yon neat and tidy way to fit back in the bag. I noticed your reply to Scott Wilson, saying the rods can be removed, which could mean I can just *scrumfle it up and cram it into in a dry bag or some such. Hopefully, putting them back in won't add too much time when it comes to pitching, Any idea what spooked the cow? Scarey stuff. *New word
I wonder if being wider it makes the sleeve easier or I've just not got the knack yet. They're easy to remove to be honest, but I haven't done it in the field where it could be a faff putting the rods back in. The cows got trapped at the far end of the valley by a fence and they didn't want to run up the steep slopes, only way out for them was past Kev and I.
Nice wee tent Robin has more space in it than i thought it would have quite a wee bit of a dent in the wallet though. They cows are mental man i always give them a wide berth since i once got chased by a massive bull after i ended up an a farmers field near my house nearly shat my pants never again lol! Nice film again Robin cheers for sharing mate. PS Robin have you ever bivvied before just as Stripey did up at the big Buachaille?
How's it going Peter, hope you're well mate. I bought a bivy bag just before the very first lockdown. Haven't had the chance to use it yet. Hopefully next summer, maybe meet Stripey too. 😁
I appreciate the effort you go to to make these videos that little bit more interesting with the different camera angles and such. 👍🏽 That rock formation on one side and the grass and trees on the other was really interesting. Have you tried earplugs to sleep at night when the noise is too much? I love the sound of silence when I wear earplugs at home and on my motorcycle (not exactly silent there).
Did Paul ever explain why he stopped using his "dream tent"? Iam about to get one as it's also my dream tent... any buyers remortgage... i mean remorse ?
My understanding is Paul got a deal to plug Terra Nova tents, so the Southern Cross gets more air time on his channel at the moment. Despite some of the small issues, the Scarp is a keeper. I've had it out a few more times since this video went out.
I have the original Scarp 1 and I prefer the top level vents. Most often, you’ll pitch end on to the wind and with the top vents you have up and one down wind. Never noticed the problem with the sleeve. Maybe mine is a bit loose with all the use it’s had. This is my favourite tent. I also have a Hilleberg Kaitum for longer winter camps with 2 people where you have more stuff and appreciate having an enormous porch for each person.
I see what you mean about the top vents, I haven't experienced the older model to comment but hopefully my sleeve will loosen off a bit. Think I'm done from buying any more tents just now.
Interesting video robin, good review of the scarp there , you can buy these cuben fiber self adhesive loops on ebay maybe a option to pull the fly away from the inner ? They are made by wild sky gear
Nice wee video bud. Am no in it much tho eh, just your near perfect tent 😏 Needs to be light like the Lanshan. You having a spy in ma tent eh. What if I had Escort & Fiesta Mags spread all over the tent 🤭😉
Hi Robin. Camped for 30 years + and started wild camping this year. Most of it in the north of England so been watching videos from these areas. However I've just come across your channel in the last week and very much enjoying it, especially the scenery and banter with Kev. My favourite authors are Iain Banks and Irvine Welsh and are very handy for getting the lingo and vocabulary. 😁 Keep up the good work. Paul
Cheers Paul. 😁 👍🏻 Kev and I hope to get down to the Cheviots again at some point as he's moved to the Scottish Borders. Iain Banks and Irvine Welsh's books will definitely help with the Embra dialect and slang. 😆
@@WalkWithWallace I feel like I've learnt another language. 😁 Really like the Scarp but as a newbie bought the cloud peak 2 as a starter. Not the lightest but roomy enough for me and the dog. Also don't see myself on top of a mountain in December (yet) so suits my needs and the accumulation of gear.
@@WalkWithWallace Also couldn't justify spending on the more expensive makes at this point. Just one last thing for now. What do you use under your mat? I bought a closed cell aluminium thingy big enough to fill the footprint (needed to protect the bathtub from the dogs paws) but it's too bulky.
@@paulryan2081 I don't use any thing under my mat unless it's winter. Just looking at the Thermarest Ridgerest at the moment. But usually just some DIY insulation foil.
Brilliant review. 1. Hand on heart, would you say the tarp tent scarpa 1 is suitable as a long distance (through hike) tent? In other words, would you consider taking it on the Cape Wrath if you didn't have your other tents? Or not? 2. If you could only have one all rounder tent, which one would it be? Regards Imran
Hey Imran, at 1.3kg the Scarp 1 isn't ultra light and takes a bit more room in your pack. But yes if you don't mind that then yes I'd take this in a heart beat for the CWT. Early days, but this is fast becoming my allrounder tent. 🏕
Enjoyed the video mate. For the weight and price it’s got to be one of the best 4 season options, if not the best. You’ve got all the bases covered with your 3 options too.
Cheers bud, annoyingly the price has crept up around $50. Still decent tbh. I'm going to try my best now not to buy any more tents, but you know what it's like. 👀
@@WalkWithWallace Good luck on not buying anymore tents, I won’t lie to myself like that 😂. It’s like saying you’ll never drink again when you’ve got a hangover.. Always a bit of a pain importing gear, I’ve done it a few times and had mixed experiences. You used the notch in much bad weather?
@@OutdoorIntrigue haha, I know what you mean. That old n+1 formula kicks in. 😁 I've not had the Notch out quite enough in bad weather to say how good it handles the wind, but wet weather was fine.
@@WalkWithWallace It’s wind that’s the trickiest thing with tents in Scotland really huh. A couple I chatted to a while back had a zpacks DCF tent up and it got shredded by the wind out here on the west coast. The Tarptent tents seem some of the best weather worthiness wise of the US manufactured options.
Superbos tent Robin. Quite pricey right enough! I have a Coleman cobra 2 and have to say for the price it's really good quality and has handled strong winds and rain very well, similarish design to yours except uses another small aluminium pole for the bottom end and it even has guy ropes for the poles! Decent tent pegs also. The vestibule isn't the biggest which Monty won't be happy about but all in its a great tent just over 2kg.
Nice one Jimmy, I haven't seen much of the Coleman tents. 2kg is just a shade too heavy for the longer distance stuff as I had the Wild Country Helm Compact, which was excellent in the wind too, but a bit heavy for my liking.
@@WalkWithWallace Yeah the weight is so important for long treks and lots of up and down hill action.My pack is around 15kg which is pretty heavy but fine for me if campsite isn't too far and level from the car, I think the magic number is 10kg I'm sure you mentioned that before.I bought a festival trolley to carry mega loads of wood/food etc but to be honest can only be used well if the ground is good and it's not a long hike!
@@jimmyboyd817 15kg isn't terrible to be honest, but aye I think getting to or just under 10kg is a good benchmark. You can end up spending silly money to save 1-2kg.
I’ve got a scarp 2 (for 2) wanted it as a mountain tent as you say to sit between Xmid2 which I love but not so sure on it in big wind and my hilleberg Nammatj which is bomber but is v heavy and takes up a lot of real estate. I know the scarps are very popular but I have to say most of my limited use of mine I’m not so sure. I find the pole difficult to get in and out, even more so when wet. I don’t think the porches are big enough. I was out on the hills last night and it’s not as wind worthy as I hoped. Admittedly it was proper blowing. Theres a lot of pressure on the strut guy lines and these kept popping out. I didn’t take the crossing poles but question how easy they are to get in when lights fading, it’s raining and blowing. Sorry to be negative I really want to love this tent as it’s popular on here and gets a lot of love on trek lite. Maybe I’m doing something wrong. I like the look of the southern cross 2 but think the inner is just a bit too small.
Good constructive feedback with your thoughts on the Scarp Richard. I suppose you've got to take into account its still a single hooped tent so will have its limitations against some of the Hillebergs. I take it you've added guylines to support the middle pole?
@@richardwaudby7338 I'll need to get them added for the winter season. I wouldn't fancy mucking about with the crossing poles as you say in fading light etc. 🤔
@@WalkWithWallace I’ve only used them down the park when doing a practice pitch. They didn’t seem that bad but I did think at the time that when I’d want them it would be when the weathers Cacky and everything’s 10 times harder on the hill side when it’s cold, wet, blowing a Hoolie and you’re faffing in gloves.
I've got the scarp 2. The crossing poles are real easy to put in place though they do add weight to your pack. No difference really to putting 3 poles into a semi geodesic. Keep the gromet as close to the ground as you can. Makes the tent rock solid and raises the outer away from the inner quite a bit. Used the crossover poles in really bad weather and it just sort of hums at you lol
the scarp 2 doesn't seem to have the arch same arch sleeve issue, maybe because it's not as steep. I have the new 2021 scarp 1 on its way now though, I'll let you know how the new pockets and lighter solid inner work out. its gone up in price though, pricier than the 2020 scarp 2! You definitely need the extra guy lines and the pole support for heavy winds though to separate the outer from the inner.
I got an email alert to confirm the new Scarps are back in stock. I'm sure there's a much bigger stock too. Have they put the prices up or is it the exchange rate? Let me know how you get on. 😁
Is there such a thing as the perfect tent....must admit, it looked quite roomy, surprisingly so, when you see it from the outside but too expensive for me. At this time of the year, too much tent time for me, especially as I only sleep about 5 hours a night. A very comprehensive review I thought, cheers Alan
Nice one Robin , the Scarp tent is a popular tent now but i'm not buying anymore (just yet lol) I have 7 tents at the moment. My favorite tent is probably the Soulo for the mountains ..Everyone has their own opinions on tents ...good vid mate ..Hopefully see you soon ..Cheers Stevie
There's always something that could be improved. The tent looks fine to me 👍🏼and definitely needs those side guylines sorted. Pro's & cons with all tents. The metal zips rattle too much on my soulo in 60mph winds but i still manage to sleep through 😂🤣
I really do love the Scarp 1. Loads of space, great features and reasonably easy to get pitched perfect. Wondering how the cross poles perform in very high winds. Can’t wait to test them out. Thanks for another fab vid Robin.
Cheers Paul. Do you find the sleeve a bit of a faff too? I can't see the cross poles making a huge difference as they don't go all the way to the ground, will definitely help with snow loads though.
This a good lightweight tent for its space but yeah it has a few niggles Got mine in 2012 and people need to remember it's a lighter tent. I find the pole sleeve in mine very tight and those grommet things are tricket to get pole in them Those new tents a bit different to the original version Nice video
Hi Robin great video, just ordered the Scarp 1 tent myself can’t wait to get it, did you seam seal yours yourself or did you get the company to do it? Cheers Mark
Nice one Mark, you'll love it. 👌🏼 I did seam seal it myself, just diluted Mcnett Silnet (Seam Grip) with some white spirit and mixed it in and painted it on gently with the brush provided. 😁
I can see, the height is just under 1m. However, it always depends not just on the highest point. I know that from experience with my Lanshan 1 Pro. Yes, it is 1.10m right next to the pole but everywhere else I brush the (single-)wall with my head. I am 6ft 1in. How does the Scarp 1 work for the taller hiker?
Hello Robin. Very interesting video mate. Don't have any problems with my Hillebergs like that 🤔😂. Looks a good and nice tent the Scarp 1. I must admit it's bad how Tarptent don't put Guylines on the Scarp. My favourite tents are Hillebergs as you know. Really enjoyed watching. Atb Steve 👍
There was a video a while back where you shared a discount code for Summit to Eat meals... can you remind me which video it was as keen to explore the offer?
I think most lightweight single hoop tents are a faff to get the pole in. I have a vango helium 1., cost less than 300 quid and is lighter than the scarp 1. However it isn't as roomy at the ends. The scarp wins that way and the guying points. Still, I can sit up in it and can adjust the size of the vestibule and it has withstood some high winds. Best of luck with the nomination. Saw it on IF and placed my vote.
The Vango Helium looks excellent to be honest and it's good to see Vango competing with light weight tents. Would be good to do a Helium vs Scarp review in bad weather. Aye, some serious competition in the TGO Awards with Muzza and professional film makers.
@@WalkWithWallace TBH, I think the Scarp would win due to the extra guying points. The helium is very flappy in high wind and has only 4 guys. You can peg it close to the ground though and there is good through ventilation.
@@WalkWithWallace Ah seam sealing, forgot that. The Helium 1 is a cracking wee tent and has served me well. If only the 2 man was actually a two man though. It would be perfect for a couple but top to toe isn't the best.
I’m still searching lol , I do like the look of the scarp but looked fidly to erect slot the poles with my poor eyesight 😂 loads of room and the weight is good. Looks like you have all bases covered shelter wise . Atb Dave
@@stevesdaysoff2759 the Scarp will last me years as Iook after my tents. Plus it depends what you're after and what you use it for. Most Hilles are over engineered for UK conditions unless you enjoy going out in constant poor conditions.
@@stevesdaysoff2759 plus the comparative Hilleberg to a Scarp 1 is the Akto or the Enan. I've owned an Akto and the Scarp is a better a tent imho. The Enan is lighter than the Scarp but only 3 season.
I'm thinking about a Scarp 1, they're certainly popular with all my favourite walking/camping youtubers! I can't tell from videos and pictures what the view is like when you're inside and zipped up though? It looks like there's not much mesh to see through, but it may well be placed just right to let you sit up and look out at the landscape when the midges are about and you need the inner zipped. (I know you can get an all mesh inner, but I think that'll be a bit chilly.) I'm hoping people can tell me from experience what kind of view the Scarp has?
Hi Lesley, you need to be sitting up to see out of the mesh panels. I got the solid inner for the colder weather. There is also the half solid option which I got for my Notch. 🏕
I have the Scarp 2 I love it, same niggles as you but hey ho. When the weather's bad or the mossies descend and being a short arse I can sit inside quite comfortably in my chair. Brilliant tents for the price. I have a Protrail on its way for the kinder months. Really interested to see how it does. Great video and keep them coming.
Robin, what is the foam you are using? I have the tarptent moment which is basically a notch but using a pole. They are all great tents for different uses. Great video👌
I looked at the Moment myself, but opted for the Notch. I'm wondering if the Moment might have been better than the Notch? It kind of sits between the two. Do you mean the orange foam mat?
@@WalkWithWallace yes, I have an adapted sit pad, but quite a few people seem to be using a sheet of lightweight foam, looks a good option. I like the moment, fingers crossed I will be using it on tgo next year. About 1100 grams I think but then I carry walking poles as well. I do also find that the gap between fly and inner is very small
@@leeellis1254 handy as, I can't find the exact one, but it's similar to this Lee, cut down to size to fit my torso only. www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/sleeping-mats-c58/closed-cell-foam-mats-c137/xl-featherweight-evazote-foam-mat-p16188
Cheers David, I went with the solid inner for more protection from drafts and the cold. The solid inner still has a mesh window on each door so you don't feel totally enclosed. 😁
The scarp 1 is definitely on my wanted list, there is a few videos on here of tweaks as well. Am also looking at the nordisk telemark 2 and terra nova laser compact 2, mainly for doing the cape wrath I have a terra nova laser photon which is super lightweight but lacks space inside but is great for shorter trips at 800g packed weight.
@@WalkWithWallace they look just the job I’ve got some 0.8mm dyneema guy line I can use which would be just enough I reckon not to put too much stress on the fly
As you clearly state, no tent is perfect. But my favourite is my old but gold terra nova solar elite. You mention the abisko lite 1, i have the 2 man tent and i can highly recommend that aswell. You could spend thousands on looking for the perfect tent now, but at the end of the day all of there materials will rip easily , accidentally or otherwise.
Terra Nova are decent, even the cheaper Wild Country versions are solid too. I do like a single hooped tent, so the Abisko looks appealing too. As you say you can spend silly money, I suppose resale value is usually good.
Love love love the small pitch and 2 mins to erect. My MSR HH NX2 gave up the ghost after 6-7 years (delaminated) and had a Naturehike Taga 2 for a month in the Dolomites. When I returned to China (where I'm resident) I bought a Lanshan 2 and I really like this tent (amazing value for money) but with a month in Iceland on the chalkboard for next year I want a more wind-resistant tent. I love the look of the Durston X-Mid 2, better in the wind than the Lanshan 2 but maybe not as sturdy as this Scarp 1, though the extra weight is a niggle. Have you tried attaching extra guys to the cross pole attachments? Just a thought when you were talking about them as I am debating whether the cross-poles are worth the extra weight. Cheers - first time on your channel and I'll explore it more ! Kevin
Cheers Kev, would you not consider another MSR HH? Apart from pitching the inner first, they're hard to fault. I feel it becomes a bit of faff adding extra lines to the crossing pole attachments. It's not usually an issue with the Scarp unless there's a lot of condensation.
@@WalkWithWallace TBH I loved the MSR HH - it went with me everywhere : All over China, Kyrgyzstan, Nepal, Iceland (luckily no serious storms), Norway etc. and was brilliant. Went through a huge freezing storm in Kyrgyzstan where I had to hold onto the ridgepole to keep it from flying away with me in it ! But I'm ready to move on - the Durston X-Mid 2 is super, supposedly stronger and much much lighter. The Scarp 1 is much stronger and wind resistant for an Iceland Highlands hike next year plus my parents live in Wales close to Snowdonia and I've been promising myself Skye too (that Bucket List keeps getting longer) ! It's between those two really - maybe the Scarp 1 and then when I return sell it for the Durston X-Mid 2 ! Decisions decisions.
@@kevinharding1181 the Durston fellas are harder to get a hold off I believe. 🤔 Scarps are good though, I've got the cross over poles but haven't used them yet.
@@WalkWithWallace Yes I'd love to see/hear more about whether the cross poles are really necessary or not. There's a huge delivery of the Durston X-Mid 2 tents (mesh I think, solids next Spring) arriving this Sept. and they have a notice on the site that they won't have delivery issues going forward from November (sounds like a new manufacturer or at least expanded production line).
@@kevinharding1181 for strong winds and snow loads definitely, I bent my pole when the 30mph wind changed direction and started battering the Scarp from the side. That sounds promising on the Durston fellas.
Have a look at my 'first look' video Stevie. Then on 'blues busting wind bombs' good use of the X poles on there. Sorry to creep in on your comments Robin. Great video as per!
@@Fellmandave1 Hi Dave I couldn't find the blues busting video about the poles. Just ordered a scarp 1 and keen to learn more about the effectiveness or not of the poles :)
For what you do Robin ( lightweight/distance) it's a great choice, I do like the Abisko lite 1 too though, both great tents and of course you're correct, there's no such thing as a perfect tent for the mountains, for me personally the Carinthia bivouac is the perfect mountain shelter, technically not a tent I know lol, but for safety and survival, it beats any mountain tent hands down. ATB mate.
@@WalkWithWallace Not for everyone I know, but the advantages a quality bivouac has over a tent in the mountains is too numerous to mention. Once you get used to them and dial everything in properly, they're the ultimate mountain shelter. ATB matey.
@@vr_gamers8116 I bought a Alpkit Kloke bivvy bag with full intention of trying it out. Just haven't got around to it yet. But I'll definitely give it a go.
@@WalkWithWallace Thanks for the reply. I’ve just bought a cheap Wild Country Zephyros compact 1. Only used it once in fairly tame conditions; seems ok, the fly is a bit bit flappy and loose. I’ve been trawling RU-vid to try and find the best 1 person 3 season tent (I don’t think I’d ever wild camp in 4 season weather on my own). There as so many opinions and pros/cons to each, it’s a tent minefield out there!
@@eddie4324 the Zephyros is okay, I found mine a bit fiddly so I sold it on pretty quickly. It can be a minefield to be honest, but it's worth pointing out that there's no perfect tent or best tent. Some people love Hillebergs, but I find they're too heavy for backpacking and over engineered for all but the worst weather. I'm really happy with the Scarp, it's more of my mountain tent, it's a bit on the heavy side got backpacking, but again it depends on what you're willing to carry weight wise.
looks a great tent hard to get hold of i believe. good job them cows mooooved away. Just brought a new tent myself not had chance to get it out yet nive vide m8 atb daz
Tarptent currently have them back in stock, and I just bought one - missed out last time. So my lineup is changing from TN Voyager and Luxe Hexpeak V4A to Scarp 1 and Lanshan 1 Pro. Actually I'll probably keep the Hexpeak because it's a great shelter and I'd miss it. Looking forward to finding out how the Scarp performs - I hear only good things about it!
They've actually got a decent stock too, they haven't sold out yet. That's a good set up mate, I'd keep the Hexpeak too. Hope you like the Scarp as much as I do. 🏕
Very similar to my setup now, although I think I am going to sell the hex peak, its a nice shelter, but, I fear if I don't sell a few off my wife will dispose of them for me :P Only had to wait a week for the Scarps to come back into stock, so was well chuffed!
@@WalkWithWallace loved the way you told Kev tae get oot the way and Kev just stood there, I was hawf expecting Sean Connery tae make an appearance lol..... Did you shee the beasht 😂😂
@@stephenwharrior5835 yeah that's what I thought you meant. I've never used it on my bike, so wasn't sure how dry is dry. Wouldn't want any residue getting on the tent.
I appreciate I'm in the minority. I had a really poor experience with the scarp I i bought a few years ago. When it arrived the finishing was very poor. Holes in the corners of the fly sheet. They're were lots of loose threads that needed securing. I complained to Henry, but was fobbed off to be honest. I had also paid for seam sealing, when I used the tent first time it leaked like a seive. I didn't bother complaining, didn't see the point. Earlier this year I got kicked off the tarp tent owners face book page. I happened to agree with another user that the companies customer service was poor based on my own experience and that they were very sensitive to any criticism of their products...I got a ban. Again I appreciate I'm in the minority, its a shame as the tent is an excellent design. I had purchased a previous tent from the company without issue and the finishing and quality were excellent.
That's disappointing to hear Bruce, I'd have thought Henry would have at least honoured you with a replacement tent. The problem with these Facebook groups, is they become a bit fanboyish and nobody can say anything bad about them. Same with the Hillebergs.
That really surprises me. I've been dealing with Henry shires of Tarptent for nearly a decade, and every experience has been top-notch. He stood behind his products, welcomed suggestions, and was always ready with a tip or two using his gear. One experience - I stupidly broke my aluminum hoop pole, just being careless. I called to see how much a replacement would be. Henry asked my how I broke it, and I told him. He agreed that it was a stupid error on my part, and just sent me a new pole. I think your experience was very much out of the ordinary. However - Henry has an engineering background, which is why he has such unique designs. He's rightly proud of his work and can be a bit defensive sometimes. If I were him, I would probably be the same. Scarp1 has been my go-to tent for years. Just ordered a new replacement fly.
Hi mate! Looks awesome that tent, glad you like is and 1.3kg is great. My Helm 2 is 2.5kg with extra pegs I think or 3kg with ground sheet. But at leart is quite compact one and good for 2 if my girlfriend wants to come along ;) That cow haha...
I had the Helm Compact 1 and I was seriously impressed with it, the weight was the caveat for me. But for the money they're excellent value. PS. You happy to take her along with you then? 😁
@@WalkWithWallace I bought Helm 2 because its was £168 deal and its hard to find 4 season crazy Scottish weather, compact 32cm x 20cm tent for 2 people also. I am trying to find Osprey Atmos 65 for a good price now but also hard in large and blue. Yes we went to pentland 2 weeks ago was really good heh some condensation and water but we had out tent completely closed not much ventilation so out fault I believe. Want to go bacl soon hopefuly.
I've got the helm 2 compact. Love it. It's been up in the garden for the last 3 days taking a beating to see how it stands up to it. Id love a Scarp but the recent price rise has made me seriously think about other tents within the new Scarp price range with the import duty on top
@@acgkplh I had the Helm Compact 1 and thought it was a fantastic tent, just a bit heavy for the longer hikes. Fire the figures through the online import tax calculator and see what it'll cost in GBP.
As you alluded to Robin, for space, to strength, to weight ratio, the Scarp 1 is virtually peerless. Coupled with the Notch, I can't see me making any changes anytime soon. I agree wholeheartedly with your minor niggles however 🙂 . ATB, Chris
I love my Scarp 1😍 had it since 2013, my only gripe is the packed length but then you can’t have it all, the space inside is great for solo adventures, I used to have a Terra Nova coffin ⚰️ NEVER AGAIN 😩 When is Professor Russell’s next lecture?😂😂😂
Wouldn't trust it as saw one rip to shreds at the point the crossover pole attaches to the fabric. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_dYkFY5UnDQ.html Will stick to the hillebergs which I can trust. Have 2 tents myself, a 3 season Anjan 2 and 4 season Akto. Donated an Akto to a DoE leader which he loved.
Mate, the boy pitched that Scarp completely wrong. User error 100%. He owned up to that. There's no doubt Hillebergs are stronger but they're over engineered for most UK conditions.
Here's the video from the chap who's Scarp it belonged too. A more reliable account of what happened. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8LfjTm_tcRc.htmlsi=KH2vKiubpo5-kj39
