Sponsored by Private Internet Access, Use the following link to access their promotional offer: www.piavpn.com/Perun No video I've ever done has taken as long to put together as this one - so there's probably no better choice for a near end of year release. This video was a hard one to produce - firstly because of the scale of the subject (ideally I'd actually be able to do 3 videos on India - this one, one on modernisation and the future (because Indian industry and the armed forces are likely to look a lot different in 15 years than they are now) and something like a procurement best of/deep dive into the best and worst programs and systems to come out of India). It was also hard because simple messages are easy, and India isn't simple. What I have tried to do is capture the scale and strength of the Indian military, the potential of its industry and economy and its increasing ambition - as well as some of the factors that have held it back, particularly when it comes to what I know best, which is budgeting and procurement. Given time limits - some topics have been simplified or omitted (including some of India's border disputes) but please don't take those omissions as a statement that those factors are irrelevant. Not all sources fit in the source list so I'll put together a document holding additional resources and add that as a link in the next 24 hours or so (please keep an eye out and read the description section). I hope you all enjoy, and I'll see you again next week.
In 1948, the two dominions went to war with the exact same head of state on both sides. Your majesty, our forces have defeated the forces of that most avaricious and dangerous of forces, your majesty's other armed forces.
So many gems in this but this sticks out 28:08 "Remember, this is a time when the Soviet Union and the United States were basically fighting a sustained thermonuclear war against Kazakhstan and Nevada respectively". Perun, you should be writing for the screen, Sir.
I listen not only for his vast research and knowledge but for Perun's most wicked zingers! One must listen closely, or his deadpan delivery will slip right past. So many times:?did he just say… rewind, replay… why yes, yes he did! Sharp as a tack and deadly satirical wit. Love this young man... AZ 👵🏻🌵🇺🇸
Ukrainian and Indian logistics and maintenance having a drink together. _"We have more types and countries of origin."_ "We have to do _fighter jets_ from different power blocs."
India - Hey, hey, hey... Ukraine, you don't have to maintain Flankers, Mig 29s, Mirage 2000s, Rafales, Tejases, Mig 21s, AND SEPECAT Jaguars at the same time😂 (PS - Also until recently, Mig 27s) Edit : Also until 2009, Mig 23s. Also three different attack helos (Apaches, Hinds and HAL Prachands - plus the HAL Rudra, a gunship variant of the Dhruv utility helo)
Ukrainian airforce chaos is in the future. For now land based equipment is a mess and amount of available manpower to deal with this mess is way lower than in India.
@@Thaidory : Ukrainian airforce is going to be fine. They aren't going to be getting supplies from Russia, and neither are any of their allies, so the old Soviet fleet is going to be retired as soon as they can.
@@benoithudson7235 Ukrainian airforce right now has suffered alot of attrition and the future of adopting F-16 heavily depends on unreliable political will of the West.
the future of domestic policy is uncertain as well @@Thaidory. If they lose the war, it could destabilize the pro-Eurpoean government trend, and I think Putin is kind of banking on that.
Damn, thank you so much for this video Perun. My Dad is retired now but he used to work for a Indian government department that worked with the military and according to him until a decade ago all government departments were basically adult day cares where nothing got done. This one time he got transferred to a different state because he refused to sign off on a govt contract to a shady private company, he only found out years later that his bosses were involved with that company when the new government ordered an inquiry into this situation and found his bosses guilty. Hope things only get better and better for our country
Never expected to be really into long form military analysis content but here we are, from "All Bling, No Basics" to Space Warfare & India it's been a genuinely lovely show to watch, it'll be a sad day when Perun stops uploading but until then, thank you mate. (Love from Tasmania)
I expect it to be both happy and sad that day, since it will be a day where defense procurement and logistics will no longer be a pressing concern (aka, peace breaks out worldwide). That’s when I’ll have to get my Perun fix with his gaming channel. Looking forward to it, though I believe it to be far in the future, if ever.
I've never seen a non-Indian produce a video this accurate when it comes to Indian Defence. Bonus points for not making political jibes like many other creators. Well done good Sir.
Having previously spent several years doing administrative support to the US Army security assistance community, I very much appreciate the perspectives provided in this piece.
The thing is, as far as I know (from a channel called InsideRussia), India makes Russia sell them oil for Rupees, which Russia basically can only spend on Indian goods and services. Which in turn once again benefits the Indian economy while limiting Russian spending opportunities.
India is will to pay in dollars but Russia has no ability to process dollars. Russians want yuans and India wont use yuans. So now Indian dockyards are getting contracts to build cargo ships for Russia using that money. Its like barter but beneficial for both.
@@sage5296according to Konstantin from Inside Russia, China is making Russia pay for construction of the gas pipe Power of Siberia. To add insult to injury, China is also demanding large discounts for all gas delivered. As Konstantin also said "Russian, bow for your new masters"
Russia has actually been getting pissed at India for buying discounted Russian crude and then reselling it as diesel to Russia's former diesel customers.
What's your procedure for getting your comments under RU-vid videos? Do those same pigeons carry papers with the comments on them for someone else to type them?
I’m surprised the fifth horseman of “corruption” wasn’t mentioned. The different requirements for Arjun and T-90 in particular smack of money changing hands to ensure a particular result. Great content btw! Love every minute of it
Because at a certain threshold it becomes very hard to distinguish the incompetence from the corruption. Canada is more incompetent than corrupt so it is easy to see the incompetence clearly. In Russia while the incompetence in some areas is high, it still pales to the monolith that is Russian corruption. But India just has that special balance that of really high incompetence levels blended seamlessly with high corruption. It becomes hard to tell what exactly is even going on.
yes. foreign suppliers can give kickbacks that your local government owned supplier cannot. the army is the most corrupt of the 3 wings, as can be expected. it's also why big ticket capital expenditures seemingly out of sync with the challenges of the last few decades keep eating into budgets... but sights and plates for the lowly infantryman is never a question.
The arjun is shit. Not capability wise. But because of quality control. That's the only reason why the indian army doesn't want it. That and the fact it doesn't traverse any of the bridges in forward areas because they are not related above 37 to 38 tones, the arjun is about 42 or more, depending on its armour profile. The two regiments that use it, usually keep the gunner out the turret because there are serious issues with the grooves of the rifled guns that lead to shrapnel flying into the turret with fatal consequences on occasion. Everyone who knows nothing on the issue love speculating about why the IA favors the T90 and upgraded T72s over the arjun.
@@IndianArma Nobody stopped the Army from following into the Navy's footsteps and actually creating their own design bureau (yeah they finally did it but how long did it take and what have they actually built in that bureau except for ASMI SMG) and sending their retired officers into industry to oversee production of Army gear. Problem with the Army is that they don't take ownership of the designs they demand. And problems within the DRDO is that some of their labs have poor, non-serious leadership. As for the production quality issues of Arjun, well, we should let it go because they killed the department responsible for that (OFB). Now let us see how the revamped Indian MIC deals with the newer Armoured vehicle projects like Zorawar, FRCV and FICV. And don't get me started on the turf wars within the Army itself that have delayed or scuttled absolutely vital programs like the CIDSS, ASTROIDS, BSS, etc. Luckily IACCS Shakti and AADCR Akashteer systems escaped that fate. And then there is the lack of seriousness when it comes to equipping the largest arm of the Army: the humble Infantry. There is a lot of change needed in MoD as well. That L1 system is F**ing our preparedness. As are the bean counters of the Finance Ministry. Penny wise pound fo0lish.
@@rooneytutoring every country has corruption, but i can assure you that we have less corruption than Pakistan, Russia and China. I know our officers are no clean as european officer but still better than those three
I am an academic researcher by profession: this (and most other) videos by Perun is absolutely premier class, both in terms of research and presentation. If you have an interest in this stuff and aren't subscribed, you're making a mistake and losing out. Fantastic episode.
@@EAFSQ9 I can assure you that they get their due recognition ( for the purpose of general perception of things on a global level in a neutral way as he provides a balanced observation)
@@EAFSQ9 No, they are not. Most of these info is available on wikipedia(not reliable🙃). The CAG report screenshot was surfacing on twitter 10 days back...
A Tex Talks Battletech lecture on Great House Military Procurement with Perun as guest presentor isn't something I knew I needed before today lol. Fantastic Work as always. You can't ask for a better associate than Tex
Re the military pensions issue. Don't forget, traditionally, the Indian military has always been a "family affair". That is multi-generational military families. And, often, almost entire towns and villages have a major component of their members either in the military, or on the pension. Hence there is a large sector of Indian society that wishes to see the existing system to continue.
Your range is so impressive. You've really carved out such an awesome niche for yourself here on RU-vid. I really appreciate you deciding to share all of this analysis and knowledge with us all. It's been a real pleasure. Hope you're well, and that you get everything that the new year has to offer. 🎉
1:08:26 Love the succinct apologetics for your interest in procurement economics. The war in Ukraine, along with your channel, have given me a great appreciation of this area.
The Mig-21 are known as death traps for experienced pilots... My Grandfather was ground crew at Deveselu Air Base in, Romania back in the 60' and 70's. He was responsible among other thing to collect the remains of jets that became "agricultural machines"... One of our neighbors was the Flight group commander and, since I had a love for Jets, we talked a lot (that happened in the 90's). And we talked about all type of facts regarding US and USSR fighters, including difference between F-16's, Mig-29s and Mig-21 which all became part of Romania's Air Force at some point... From what I remember from my neighbor (who also had this "experience" but survived), the main issue with the Mig21 is that its engine might flame-out if a certain angle of attack is being reached at a certain (relative low) speed (I don't remember the exact numbers)... When this happens, an experienced pilot would attempt an engine restart or a forced landing trying to save the plane, while a younger pilot (generally trained to bail-out in this situation) would probably decide that there is not reason to try to save a crap-machine...
As a citizen i can confirm that you provided with the most accurate as well as neutral perspective, observation and facts of Indian defence economy...well researched work brother 🎉😊
This was really interesting. Thank you for the effort. The inefficiency of the crazy requirements was very eye opening. It seems that India would be much further along if they had aimed for long term small improvements.
Wow, a Tex/Perun crossover was not one I was expecting (except maybe as an april fools video on battlemech development and procurement.) it's funny how creators on youtube can sometimes connect.
This was fantastic. I knew so little about this nation's military situation. Thank you for your hard work. The results clearly shine threw. Have a wonderful Holiday. Have fun and get some rest. See you next year!
many moons ago I contracted to a company dealing with the IN. They put a whole new spin on complex procurement and hyper complex logistics they make the ADF look like the poster child for best practice procurement
How not to watch? You keep making bangers about serious topics, always with good research and a good deal of caring to reflect the truth plus admit when research in the openly discussed parts of the weekly topic only can get you so far. Really, great video as always. Hope you & family & colleagues have a fantastic 2024 . Greetings from BCN.
When LazerPig said Arjun development was a comedy (this is after India decided not to buy T-14 tanks from Russia and restarted its own effort) he wasn't kidding.
To be fair, Indian defence industries produced many failures in the era that it made Arjun in, stuff like Trishul SAM, BHIM SPG, etc. Compare that to now, when Indian defence industry is making largely successful programs like the Astra, VL-SRSAM, QRSAM, ATAGS, MGS, etc. QRSAM, for example, is a short range mobile AD with state-of-the-art Gallium Nitride AESA radars, active homing, etc. So people making fun of Indian effort at making a new tank after Arjun are basically jumping the gun. Will it be a world beater? No. I don't expect our boffins to suddenly create a super cannon with an APFSDS better than the M829A3 or something. But it is not going to be a slouch either. Multiple technologies for the new tank are already being tested way before the actual tank's design has even been hinted at. For example, its 1500 HP engine is already bench testing. Quite the contrast to the Arjun where the engine and many other components had to be imported because domestic alternatives either weren't ready on time or else not upto the mark. Also, this time around, world renown Indian private behemoths like Tata, L&T and Mahindra are involved in the development effort from the prototypes stage itself. They have already made the Indian Stryker equivalent (two different models in fact) based on this new method of involving private industry from the get go. Now they are doing the same for the FICV and will eventually do it for the next tank as well. Ofcourse the litmus test of this all will be how the light tank project Zorawar turns out. The key problem in the Arjun program wasn't that the tank design was bad or that India didn't have the tech prerequisites complete. It was that the Army's DG Mechanized Forces was not on the same page as the CVRDE. While today there have been steps taken to address that, the efficacy of those tanks has yet to be proven (early signs from Zorawar don't appear to be promising, but it is too soon to tell, we'll know by end of this year).
@@av94718 More than a decade of reading on the topic from well curated source coupled with my background in mechanical engineering. Not that hard to do actually. Its just that I've spent a lot of time on this hobby.
That was, and by far, the best analysis I have seen about India's capabilities. Great job Perun! I have watched some your previous materials, but now I'm compelled to binge-watch the rest. Kudos!
Perun, I truly appreciate what had to be an enormously heavy lift in producing this video. I throughly enjoyed your comprehensive analysis, which sheds light on the complex global security picture. Happy Holidays and healthy 2024! Sincerely, David
Your dedication to thorough research is greatly appreciated. Democracy is founded on expertise, and expertise is founded on education. Thank you for educating yourself and then us.
India’s relationships with the West and Russia reminds me of how Turkey (Türkiye) balances its relationships. How both are not on anyone’s side but their own
Turkey is a NATO member. Meaning they are obligated to fight in a war when called upon. That is a pretty significant decision to outsource to other foreign powers. And any nation that does that can't claim to be nearly in the same league as India. Indian diplomacy is a whole another level.
@@death_parade true they’re not neutral in exactly the same way. India is more non-aligned, but Turkey is shockingly non-aligned compared to other NATO countries
@@Loooam Turkey in being NATO member (which is a direct military alliance geared towards strategic military posture against Russia) yet strategically coordinating with Russia on defense including acquiring Russian weapons positions itself as a betrayor with depraved expansionist agenda and considers these shifts of allegiances and vacillations to be in accordance with their perceived lessons of historical Hudaifa agreement of Islam that focuses on playing great powers, distracting from its own strategic expansionist agenda, making small concessions from a position of strength after tough negotiations and asking for ransoms using blackmail as tool of extortion holding hostage of certain evolved situations and portraying those as friendly/neutral gestures and winning tiny strategic battles this way till a tipping point is reached. Turkey is an islamist wannabe great power that is antagonistic towards judeo-christian religio-cultural values and free, democratic and tolerant modernday european culture and Turkey wants to sabotage Europe by getting inside it, a)through insidious demographic alterations b) by getting included into the EU. Turkey is anti western small time concubine that doubles up as bedroom conspirator of rival ganglords. India' has not been in any military alliance wither Russia or the west. India's foreign policy approaches are holistic, geared towards protecting its own territorial integrity and sovereignty, follows a policy of nonintervention regarding domestic affairs of other sovereign countries so long as those affairs do not impinge upon India's core strategic interests (that of its territorial integrity and sovereignty). India is no more a reluctant nonaligned regional power; it has always been nonwestern (but not anti western) and now a multialigned emerging world power that seeks strategic partnerships where strategic interests align (example vis a vis military expansionism of the CCP regime). India is that office colleague that will drink tea with you at the cafe but will always be generous enough to knock on your door for a chat in your drawing room, forget about bedroom conspiracies. Unlike Turkey which has been following a miscarried identity of great power, India never had dilemma about it being a great power; it used to be reluctant and less expressive in past but that increasingly looks no more to be the case. Unlike Turkey which is complicit in arson and then pretends to a firefighter, India is a pacifist power. India also has a chequered colonial and islamic conquest history thrust upon it, that of its people being culturally subjugated and financially exploited, to deal with as a continuous indigenous civilisation whilst the Turkish deep state in its psyche and worldview keeps ruminating nostalgically about its outward colinial invasions, conquests and expansions. Two very different countries.
"This is a really informative and detailed video about the Indian military. I appreciate the balanced approach, discussing both the strengths and weaknesses. It's important to understand the potential and the challenges the military faces. Great job on this analysis!"
About the propensity of the MiG-21 to crash, it is by design. It has blown flaps, that means the lift is dependent on the engine power. Any fluctuation, birdstrike, turbulence strong enough to upset the engine and you stall. Then there's the unreliability inherent to the engines, originally developed as a single use drone powerplant, then made to work more than once, mostly.
@@SounakDas-zb3xc I suspect it’s the physical frailty of the airframes that are the major issue at this point. A jet fighter airframe is subject to incredible stresses, and its lifetime is measured in thousands of hours. India is flying those MiGs well past the point of safety. If you x-rayed the frames, I bet they’re riddled with all sorts of internal stress fractures, and if you showed those x-rays to the pilots, they’d refuse to fly. You can upgrade an aircraft all you want with the latest technological wonders, but that won’t stop planes from falling apart.
Interesting... Does the mig23/27 family have somewhat similar engine problems?? I may be wrong, but I have read somewhere about the gases from the main gun entering the intake and putting the engine out of action.
@@MarcosElMalo2 I dont think it has to do with its inherent design. For example Croatia until recently used Mig-21s and had absolutely no problems with the durability of the airframe , the only thing thats changed are the radar systems which croatia acquired from israel. So why india struggles with them yet croatia a country fraction of the size of anchural pradesh doesnt?
@@u2beuser714when was croatia ever in a major war or armed conflict. Croatia and India are incomparable the duties of India MiGs is way wider than croatias+ India also unlike Croatia isn't In a security bloc so it has more regular patrols anda higher readiness than Croatia those can be the reason for more frequent collapse in Indian MiGs and also that India has a very wide range of geography and temperature those stresses also build up
The concept of the multi-polar arms race is an interesting one... I don't want to say scary, but that's implicit I think. I'd never really considered it before, and it's one of the big takeaways from this presentation I think.
As someone who used to work as a software developer, I have sympathy for those who tried to build weapons domestically for India. Their Ministry of Defense seems to be an irritating customer, always coming with unrealistic demands and ever-changing requirements.
@@benudharmadhi4154 No the military requests for a hardware that is up to current gen standards. The requirements are easily passed by even last gen Russian hardware. India can't make it, simple as that. R&D makes something that is super heavy, mixed and match of incompatible components, and somehow more expensive than American weapons.
Oh boy it's 2 AM my time, best learn about a country mine will likely never be in conflict with, which is obviously relevant when I work in the psychiatric care industry. Jokes aside love the content Perun.
Thanks Perun for your content over the last year and I very much look forward to watching much more in the year to come. As a 30+ year veteran of the events industry, I can honestly say that I have never looked forward to seeing a PPT until I started watching your content. A Merry Christmas and a safe, prosperous New Year to you and yours.
I'm perversely kind of disappointed that China and India don't lean more heavily into the "no firearms" thing and start to equip and train up a unit of modern swordsmen. With modern materials and tactics. Come on guys, you know you want this!
There's one aspect that needs to be covered that hasn't been covered. Corruption. Indian defense procurement of the past have been beset with corruption scandals.
Nothing makes my morning like waking up and enjoying my coffee while watching a new Perun power point! Thank you for all of your hard work and research you put into these videos! Never thought watching a power point on defense strategies and procurement data would be part of my morning routine... but here we are!😂
You missed a very important training structure, the Indian Army Staff College (now the Pakistan Command and Staff College) in Quetta. It was considered equal an perhaps superior to Sandhurst. Many very important officers in the British Army were trained there.
There's also India having problems with the T-90s overheating in the desert (because Russia has no desert) and the T-14s and wound up cancelling the order. Also (don't remember) but India was to help develop the SU-57 but pulled out of both developing and buying the planes (and maybe the same for T-14s).
The best analysis... detailed, balanced, and deeply researched... on the subject that I have come across. Thank you, Perun. Forwarded to about 250 others... Please accept that as a compliment and a thanks. Btw... this is the ONLY channel that i have subscribed... ever 😊
for a major country you think India has the worst defense procurement? my God, you haven't looked into Indonesia, our defense procurement would make India's defense bureaucracy & procurement look like an efficient high speed low drag operation
Wish you a happy holiday season. I really appreciate the weekly insight in complex subjects with as less bias as humanly possible. Thank you very much for all the work you're putting into this!
I have always been curious with India’s military and how it stands today. It’s ability to possibly wage a war against someone. And for me, if there ever came a time (Hopfully forever remaining a theory) when a global conflict was to happen, India would be a deciding factor on who it would side with.
I think 2 thirds of the population would evenly side with the 2 main protagonists and the last third would fight evenly with the other 2 thirds who are taking the side. Indian soldiers of the past under the British were some of the best soldiers in WW2. Shame what's happening to them.
India has limited expeditionary ability, and its population is not very interested in starting wars. Being a democracy, the common man on the street (and I have talked to street vendors, taxi-drivers, and politicians), you come away with the the conclusion that they really want the government not to spend so much money on fighting. After the Kargil War, where Pakistan came away with a bloody nose, Indians were adding up the cost of each shell, each bomb, each missile. Then, they looked at their own lives, they wondered if the money should have been spent more wisely. They get angry at Pakistan for all the waste of men, money, opportunities, and time. To most Indians, the military is both a source of pride and a squashing of potential because the common man wants to move ahead in other areas too.
@@rajeshkanungo6627 china's main reason for massive development near lac is to distract indian economy growth by forcing us to spend heavenly on border areas to stabilize their threat
@@berthika1219 61 million peoples died from allies sides. 16 million of them were soldiers. 8 million soldiers from axis("Japan included"). 4 million civilians died from axis. I can certainly say who was stronger. It's axis. Allies had supplies of slave army forces. No jokes. Was it strong? It just numbers.
@@rajeshkanungo6627 This is a glass half full, glass half empty kinda situation. I don't talk about this stuff to street vendors or taxi drivers and I certainly don't have any politician friends. But a look at the Annual Budget of the Central Government tells me all I need to know. 2023, Indian Centeral budget allocated a total of $120 Billion as Capital Spending. $20 Billion was for the military and $100 Billion for infrastructure. This year it'll go above $150 Billion, they say. If the annual budget for the military was $74 Billion, that for the Indian Railways (not including Metro rails or Bullet train) was $66 Billion (half of which was capital spending). When the Indian Railways gets 50% more than the Indian Armed Forces for capital procurement, I'd say our priorities are all right. We can't be spending any less on the military given the environment we are in. As for the people, most Indians are spoilt. More interested in freebies from the government than the actual strategic ramifications of military situation, industry situation and R&D situation in the country. Despite the fact that the former only affects them short term while the latter affects them long term.
@@priyan605 But algorithm will do its trick. It will be shown to many, whether subscribed or not. RU-vid loves to recommend 'foreigners react to India' type videos to Indians. And I guess this video will fall under that category. I am a Perun follower for a year now and I know this is not that kind of video, but algorithm doesn't care.
@@karthikps4889 Thats not true. He made a video on china and china has 1.3 billion, yet it barely makes the top 20 most watched video plus algorithm works if you watch military stuff in the first place sooo yeah
I'm catching up with these so a little behind but Perun, the military procurement & cost overruns etc are EXACTLY the kind of thing I want to hear about! I like many, many things about what you do & how you do it, & all self depreciating humour aside your detail given on these processes is one of them :)
Thanks for a year's worth of excellent content. You help me understand what's happening out there - which is saying a lot in a world full of bs and disinformation. I wish you some great holidays with the people you love, and I'm sure do love you.
Thanks for the video, I look forward every week to sit down and watch PowerPoint slides. I know it's crazy but I do enjoy them. Keep up the good work @Perun and Happy New Year down under from the UK.
I gotta say, the Indians really do politics how they should be done. Just get along with nations which also have their best interests in mind in the issues they are cooperating in.
I remember reading a list of Indian military equipment on wikipedia years ago and coming to the conclusion that they had a little bit of everything from everyone. Russian/Soviet, Chinese, British, Israeli, American, and a host of other countries plus native Indian produced materiel. It seemed like from a cursory glance that a nation of such size and population without a large enough military industrial base resulted in developing a lot of native weapons, but limited production from a lack of investment resulted in also needing to purchase from abroad from a wide variety of vendors to fill in gaps in procurement and a decent reliance on legacy systems left on hand when the British left India. Before the Russo-Ukraine war started I'd have said India would be one of the worst military's to do strategic logistics for, though I assume they must compartmentalized units to use certain compatible equipment.
@@lolasdm6959 Perun has an excellent study of these issues in another video (don't remember the title) that only Perun can make about build, buy, invent, steal, etc. Apart from the bureaucracy and flights of imagination, India just does not have the economies of scale. India will need a few hundred jet engines at most. The US, England, France, and a few other countries have been building jet engines of all types since 1945. The North American market manufactures $54 billion worth jet engines every year. Same with tanks. The US made more Shermans in a month than India has ever bought. The US has a very large export market that funds a lot of the R&D. India doesn't. India has taken half steps to license these engines or license build these engines, as well as other complex systems.
@@rajeshkanungo6627 Yeah, I don't think that is always the case. India does have significant economies of scale. Case in point: HTSE-1200 helicopter engine. Around 2080 of those engines will be needed (not counting replacements and spares) for HAL Dhruv, HAL Rudra, HAL Prachand and HAL LUH in the Armed Forces alone (forget additional orders like possible exports or others from GSI, BSF, etc). That is a large order size, enough scale for a cost-effective production run. The HAL IMRH engine will easily have a production run of 1200 engines (not counting replacements). Any GE-414 replacement we produce will power half the damn Air Force fighter squadrons. And imagine the number of marine gas turbines, drone engines, etc. And the same superalloys used in gas turbine engines are also used in rocket engine turbopumps, etc. All said, India has more than enough domestic demand to actually plough Billions of dollars into a comprehensive domestic engine family design effort. And in fact, these days, the industry is already doing it at the lower end of the GT spectrum, starting with ones for drones and helicopters. Similarly, with a potential order size upwards of 2500+ tanks in the FRCV project and 2500+ IFVs and 700+ Wheeled APCs in the FICV and WhAP programs, the engine requirement is immense as a result of which they already have a 1500 HP engine for the FRCV and a 600 HP engine for the FICV and WhAP on the test rigs. India doesn't lack scale. It lacks intent and the ability to execute it without the bureaucracy devolving into silly turf wars.
Today was a great to do a strategic powerpoint about the north pole. About how santa could play off the various powers to maintain a north pole neutrality against oil extraction and so on.
Your analysis is good and your ideas have good backing. Even if somebody doesn’t agree with you, you structure your arguments, such that it is possible to debate them point by point in a more rational fashion than in other media, I have seen. Bravo!
I think if I was a fighter pilot, I’d happily have a go flying a MiG-21… for the same reason I love classic cars. I would, however, very much not want to have to fly it into combat. The sensor package could be upgraded to be one of the most modern out there, but that airframe would just not be up to the task after the 60 years of service. It’d be like taking an old triumph spitfire, welding what you can see, but not doing a full down to chassis strip, modifying it for handling and speed, then taking it to Les Mans and trying to endurance race it. You might get some good lap times but you’re not going to wind by any stretch when one of the big manufacturers shows up with something prototype for next years race
India won't be starting a nuclear war and we have the past four wars to back that up. Those wars were started by pakistan with the backing of so called world's biggest democracy USA and world's biggest communist country china. USA was supporting military rulers and terrorists of pakistan against india for such a long time and they called themselves supporter of democracy . Lol. That's the biggest lie. USA have no allies or friends USA just have interests . USA would burn even it's own neighbourhood like in Latin America for its interests . Secondly USA have an active agreement with pakistan according to which USA gives pakistan money and help it to maintain its nuclear weapons and keep an eye on what it's doing with nuclear weapons. In case of terrorists doing what they did in afganistan like taking control of pakistan . In that situation USA will take control of pakistan nuclear weapons before pakistan falls. Unless a USA leader or pakistan military had lost their minds ,we won't be having nuclear war between india and pakistan .
Thank you for the unparalleled analysis. You have quickly become one of my favourite RU-vid channels. Merry Christmas, and all the best in the New Year.
This is a beautiful video, Perun, and quite heartwarming too. You did your research well, and didn't fall into the usual tropes many outside & even Indian commentators trip and fall into. You've no idea how good it feels, to have the the right idea imparted about the topic to a wider audience amidst an atmosphere of extreme misinformation from both ends. I'd love if you do a follow-up video on Indian Navy modernisation. Cheers!
Thank you Perun for your amazing weekly PowerPoint presentation and Merry Christmas! I have followed your content for more than a year and love your thorough analysis of so many complex topics. Since you spoke on the ambivalence of India's position in a global context (sometimes aligning with the "West" and sometimes aligning with Russia) I would like to propose for a future episode to take a closer look at Switzerland and its neutrality in the current and historical context, as we have seen some longstanding neutral countries (Sweden and Finland) join NATO in recent years and through the globalization of economies neutrality may no longer be possible in a modern context. Happy to assist you (as a Swiss officer) with any questions you may have regarding the Swiss Armed forces or the "stigma" of neutrality which is so deeply embedded in Swiss culture. Keep up the great content, and enjoy your holidays!
When I hear about the requirements being much higher than for the Russian option, it occurs to me that the right amount of money found the right hands to change those requirements. Of course, paid by a Russian agent (of the state or the arms manufacturing oligarch).
The INSAS and Arjun are what happens when someone looks at memetic committee designs and decide to use that -torturous- arduous process as a baseline. The Arjun’s munition selection makes for great laughs however, so I’ll give them that.
For everyone else's benefit, one of the Arjun's munitions a sort of old-school APHE, armor piecing with an explosive filler. They call it, I kid you not, Penetration-Cum-Blast.
Great video again Perun bro . What a unbaised and balanced video . Having said that " Agnipath " scheme is not all great program . The problem with this program is even airforce and navy has to recruit personal from agnipath 4 years recruitment program and these two branches are highly tech oriented so that is a bad thing for them . While army can to some extent absorb these super short term personnel as a soldier for non technical role . Still 4 years recruitment scheme is a bad idea as a for making a good , well trained soldier one soldier has to spend at least 7-8 years in army to be fully well trained . And on the point of pension of ex soldiers why does armed forces have to pay from their budget . What i mean here is why not make a separate government institution which only deals and works on providing pension to ex government employees including ex soldiers of all three branches . Center government will fund that newly created pension institution and that institution will deploy that fund in debt , equity markets like what most of mutual funds do like that taking care of pension situation and also enhancing the pension return year by year . Simple . Like that pension problem and capital expenditure of Armed forces will be solved
Ive been ur subscriber since ur Phoenix Point days and was really impressed with ur coverage on war-politics but a 1 hr+ slideshow on my Bharat Mata is truly enough to make a semi-grown man cry. Keep on what ur doing👍👍.
What about the consequences of higher Russian dependence on China? My understanding is that this is India's worst nightmare, and their motivation to not apply any sanctions to Russia.
this is not Indias, Indias worst nightmare would be if Russia China and Pakistan united against India, gave more power to the unconventional/terrorist organization leading to a head on confrontation with the Chinese in eastern theater or with both Pakistan and China on the northern theater. This kind of diplomatic walking the fence and looking out for itself has been Indias policy since cold war through to the sanctions regime against India to the recent Gaza - Israel problem.
@@akashdevani1960 that's exactly what I meant: a Russia dependent on China would be forced to choose the China's side, for example by stopping any support in case of conflict.
My understanding on this situation is that russia is forced to be a servant state of china as long as the ukraine war goes on. With United States being their common enemy,they are into this partnership (more like china being the master of russians),but somehow russians would take their own stand if their situation gets any better. But surely for the time being,strong russian sino relations would be disastrous for india in case of a big conflict with china, our arms are majorly russian or russian derived
Small correction at 53:55. You said they ordered Swiss rifles. Sig Sauer inc. is actually an American company. It’s confusing because there’s also a company called Sig Sauer AG which is a Swiss company but the two operate more or less independently from each other
Multinational budding and transfers and buyouts. Swiss, German, then US. All about licensing, import/export restrictions and country preferences toward indigenization. Perhaps there is/will be a SIG India. 'Schweizerische Industrie-Gesellschaft' 'Swiss Industrial Company' SIG so...technically...not entiiiiirely wrong to say "more than 70,000 Swiss assault rifles" but not made in Switzerland. Grasping straws here :-).
@@johncarlaw8633 I get what you're saying however, the fact of the matter is the arms were purchased from SIG Sauer Inc. the American company rather than the Swiss SIG Sauer AG. Said firearms purchased were the SIG 716i which is a AR-10 design, which itself is a American designed and manufactured firearm originally conceptualized by Eugene Stoner, not to mention all firearms with this purchase were all manufactured in the US. Suffice to say between the company itself being located in the US, the firearms themselves being manufactured in the US and the design of said firearms being of American origin, then calling then Swiss rifles is a inaccurate statement at best and outright wrong at worst, given that the only Swiss connection resides in the name and nothing else.
