Indiana Jones Is a Weak License Now - Delayed Input with Kyle Bosman 

It's my favorite. I always wonder if Nine Days knows there's a guy on RU-vid who references their hit single on every episode 😅

It's a deep cut inside joke that doesn't need to be explained 😂

I thought it was the emperor

Haha I was looking for this comment, though the same

I don’t think Nintendo would touch Bosman with a ten foot pole

​@@thedapperdolphin1590I mean they put elephant Mario in the new Mario game, maybe they embraced the "Nintendo elephant" analogy from Final Bosman back in the day 😜😜 JK.

They are desperate and creatively bankrupt. They have no choice but to drag into the mud old licenses.

@@wmoule I want to push back on this a little. Take the Mario film for instance, the reason that movie sold tickets was because it successfully played on Mario adoration --- which does not mean it was creatively rich, rather it means that it was a successful cash grab. If the Mario movie were released in a world that cared as little for the Mario franchise as it does for the Indiana Jones franchise then it probably wouldn't fare better than Dial of Destiny.

@@charoleawood Perfectly put

And was phenomenal!

and I own every kind of classic car

@@SamSergeant that must be a lot of money, isn't it?

​@@SamSergeantTriples are safe

I'm super late on this, but I think the problem is that they haven't really done any "maintenance" on this license. With Star Wars, even in the downtimes they would do a run of toys, then a weird N64 game, and more books and comic books and everything else than Earth has eyeballs, then several animated shows, etc. Every generation has more Star Wars stuff to attach itself to. But Indiana Jones has nothing keeping it current. If I'm 25 years old right now (and I'm not), what is Indiana Jones to me? Well, it's two or three movies my (grand)parents really liked. It's a bad movie that came out when I was 9. It's two serviceable Lego video games that I didn't play 15 years ago because I had no attachment to the franchise. It's a Fortnite skin. It's a decent-to-good movie about finding meaning in growing old which I can't relate to because I'm 25. And soon, it will be a video game. Indiana Jones is a massive franchise that's spent the better part of the last 35 years sitting on a shelf then occasionally being picked up and marketed directly to the people who already liked it, before being put back on the shelf again. The franchise needed its own Clone Wars animated series or something. An ambiguously-aged CGI Indy going on adventures with a team of other archaeologists vs. some rival crew of archaeologists in darker clothes so we know they're the bad ones. Probably not Nazis, too hard to explain. This gets you to the point where kids grow up with an Indiana Jones aimed at their demographic, then they can grow into the more adult parts of the franchise and be interested when there's an Indiana Jones video game. I don't see them doing anything to get *new* people interested in Indiana Jones. Nostalgic parents will only get them so far.

The problem with Indians Jones, and a lot of franchises, is that the character who exists in individual people’s heads is often NOT the real character. Thusly it’s hard to find people to write and portray him. Like Han Solo, similarly. One of the major criticisms Kazdan had when criticizing the Lord and Miller version of the film was “Han is not funny!”. In some peoples heads, they remember all the comedic lines he adds to the films and go “ of course he is!” But they’d don’t get/understand that Han’s PERSONALITY created ironic situations which is where the humor came from. Han himself would never get the joke.

Kyle referenced him saying "apologies to whoever this is" 3:28

Black Panther and Captain America have only really become relevant in the last decade because of the MCU. The Lynda Carter Wonder Woman show was a hit on prime time TV all the way back in the 70s. In terms of overall brand strength she smokes both of them.

I didn't know Captain America till 2011 movie. I know Wonder Woman from when I'm 7 or 8 years old. I was born in 1990.

​​@carruthers100aptain America had a single TV movie from 1979 that was universally panned and that I didn't even know existed until I just googled it. Wonder Woman was one of ABC/CBS's biggest shows while it was on. Not even remotely comparable.

@@chuc.dxq3809 but we are talking about current standings of the characters and I would argue captain America and black panther is far more relevant than wonder woman is, especially amongst younger audiences.

​@@librarygary1618brand strength not brand recognition. Wonder Woman has had one kinda decent, and one terrible solo movie. Plus the mediocre justice league film. Captain America's weakest movie was his first, he's only grown in popularity as the Marvel films came out. He was done perfectly in Infinity War and Endgame. Black Panther too. These movies have left a huge impression on the whole superhero genre, whereas I'd argue that the Wonder Woman films were pretty forgettable.

Maybe Jonesy understands that both the game and franchise have an uphill battle. But even if the game sells well and is called "great" by players the franchise itself will still be rather weak until it can produce a film that sells tickets. Or maybe an Indiana Jones television show will become a hit, a great game alone will not make Indiana Jones a strong competing multimedia franchise.

Insomniac has already resciended his official "Friend of Spider-Man Card" for that blunder. Sorry Kyle, i don't make the rules.

I only recognized that something was wrong but gave up.

Yes, that is the running gag!

I still have no idea why he started it

I fast forwarded until the Craig thumbnail was gone 😄

Yes it's definitely you

iirc there were good soundalikes for him in previous indiana jones games. but theres just something sad and off-putting to me about casting soundalikes. get the original actor or cast the best actor for the role. and if the best actor for the role can do a mean harrison ford...ask him not to.

I think it's AJ Locasio that does a pretty good Harrison Ford apparently

@@Exxcalibur186 He was Marty in the Telltale BTTF game too and his voice was scarily similiar to Michael J. Fox it was ridiculous.

I think you mean "Just Cause style".

@@charoleawood GTA5 style because of interactivity. Just Cause would be similar in terms of destruction and flying (DLC to 3rd).

@@kolo5141 I'm not sure then what you mean by interactivity --- physics and destruction are what's needed to make an Iron Man game engaging and interactive. The GTA5 characters, meanwhile, aren't superheroes, they're just people engaged in criminal activities, their actions are more grounded. Iron Man is not grounded. If it were possible to make a game about Tony Stark before he became Iron Man then GTA5 would be more appropriate.

@@charoleawood That's why I said Tony Stark and not Iron Man. That his life in a city is different than being superhero. I want living city like in GTA because there is more incentive to protect it. There is nothing like that in Just Cause games because all the people are like puppets and you just go from one enemy base to another. That is why I specified GTA5 because there is a lot more to that world than just drive drive shoot shoot.

The last movie was also crap. And I don’t think that most people under 30 care about Indie

I grew up on Indy. It’s a weak license.

Yeah, but wouldn't people go the first weekend at least, before the reviews bomb?

@@thedapperdolphin1590 I think that a good movie would have been a great success. But we will never know for sure because of the incompetence of Lucasfilm...

@@zenithquasar9623 The bad reviews came out (after the cannes film festival) long before the official release. Not to mention the (correct) spoilers.

"then that's exactly what the movie was doing." ...But it didn't. Did you see the movie? All the supposed leaks about her character replacing Indy were a bunch of bs. She's another companion character like any of the ones in the previous movies.

@@MysteriousMrL rumor was that they reshot the ending, in the original she was going to replace Indy after he died in the past and have a collage of all Indy adventures but with her in his place apparenty Spielberg has some clauses in the contract that stipulate that they cannot kill Indy

@@jesusbarrera6916 I do think there's an alternate ending to what we got, but nothing as elaborate as Helena going through time and replacing Indy. That just doesn't line up with anything set up in the movie. The rumor only makes sense when you look at it as speculation based just on the first trailer, since a big part of it was younger Indy getting killed and having to be replaced to save the timeline or whatever. That's very clearly built on an assumption that didn't pan out at all, that a younger version of Indy was going to play a bigger role than just being in the prologue, and that there would be a lot more time travel involved in the plot than there actually is. Going from that to the movie as released would have been such a huge, drastic change to make so late in production, I just don't see it. In any case, even if the rumor ever had any truth to it whatsoever, that's not in the movie we got.