Thank you for not excluding Haiti ❤️ everyone does that just bc a lot of Haitians are black and it’s sad bc my country has ppl of all colors even white
@@kendianorman3670 Haitians are not taínos. Taino history is reserved for dominicans as 45% of Spanish men married taino wives. Creating mestizo children. Haitians are not mestizos.
According to The Annals of Hayti by C.S Rafinesque, the island of Hayti was inhabited by the black groups of the Guaninis, Caracols, and to a smaller extent the Caribs. I have heard of another group called the Aguehaos, but I cant find much info on them. Im glad another Haitian knows about this info like I do. Bon bagay frem!
J- XL no problem, also don't forget the Royal Families of the Natchez Indians where sold into slavery from Mississippi into Haiti by the French, and who knows how many other tribes we have not found out about yet.
J- XL Taino Indians The only blacks that wherever in Haiti were brought there from Africa as slaves to harvest the sugarcane fields and Nothing More there were never any indigenous blacks in Haiti
I'm native born to north America been labeled as black or African American. I'm not either of those. I'm Choctaw I'm indigenous to north America. If you check out Dane Calloway's channel he has more information than I've collected.
The brother should clarify for ex Hatuey wasnt from Haiti in the modern sense or Dominican ... that modern nationalism didnt exist for our people then He was from that island but would never acknowledge a modern sense of geographical pride that would support modern haitian puerto rican jamaican cuban or Dominican pride. Its Taino pride ... and the term black was used to describe dark people not just subsaharan afticans ... I am Taino mixed with African and European and they were seperate people. Yes there were Africans in the Americas before Europeans...that doesnt mean they populated the Americas as a founding population...as for our traditions they are synchronized with African and even some Christian traditions
By African you mean people with wooly hair and negroid features. They popultaed all over the islands. And go look up why Dessaline changed the islands name to haiti, read his whole declaration he makes it clear who he is and he dont claim Africa. IJS.
@@2gogols sorry man I am taino and Africans ... I know a great deal about my people...yes africams came here before Europeans that is documented ..I'm sure they mixed with my ancestors but I'm also sure my native ancestry is beringian just like all first nations people
@@travelingva The whole island was called Haiti or Kiskeya. And those people were very tribal so Im pretty sure they had a sense of pride but on a tribal level, not national.
I don't consider Indeginous history of the island as Haitian histoy. Every historian will say the colonization was done by Spain. Haitian History begins in 1625-1665. The treaty of Ryswick shows how much of Haiti was under Spain's control. Marroons with an indeginous component in the area of Haiti today where in Spanish controlled territory making that Dominican history. Only by digging into the history of St. Domingue between 1625-1665 is where you might find Marroons from Spanish controlled territory giving refuge to slaves brought over by the French. This is why I don't like Haitian history. The French and the Spanish are different. During St. Domingue and how the French carried out slavery was different from how Santo Domingo dealt with slaves. The Natives won their freedom. Slavery was very different in Santo Domingo than it was in St. Domingue from the 1600s onward. We don't have the same experiences. I really dislike people who try to group us as if we are all the same. One last thing everyrhing that wasn't white, Natives included, where considered black by some colonizers. Mainly the English. Black doesn't mean black as in African. That's an important distinction.
You dont consider it haitian history because deep down youre afraid that haitians have a tie to the natives lol ....yet genetically talking theres haitians with high taino dna!! Theres also tainos still in haiti lol
@@gwensalador4325 It's not really. In 1625 Haiti history is still Dominican history. Pirates where hitting and running all around the Western end and being confronted by the Criollos who lived there in places like Tortuga and Isla de Vaca in Le Tirburon Peninsula (those are all Spanish names that remain in Haiti btw). The French never dared attack Santo Domingo directly in those times because the Spanish had defeated the English in the Siege of Santo Domingo in 1655. It wasn't until Bertrand d'Ogeron de La Bouëre began permanent colonization by working with Pirates that the French colony began to form in 1665. The next year was the Franco-Dutch were Spain allied itself with the Netherlands and Bertrand de Oregon wanted to take all of the island during that time. If you see the Battle of Sabana Real in 1691 the Spanish beat the French as far deep as Limonand in Haiti. The Spanish even defeated and destroyed French settlements in El Guarico (Cap Haitien) and Puerto de la Paz (Port-de-Paix). The Spanish put up resistance to French presence for years until the British helped France defeat Spain on the island in 1695. After 1697 is when France started importing slaves by the tons. Therefore the Indiginous history of the island has nothing to do with France or the Republic of Haiti. Marroons in the Mountains with Indiginous blood were there under Spanish territory and most likely some stayed in places like the Macaya mountain range but those people are ancestors of Dominicans. That's not the story for the vast majority of Haitians.
@@JoseMartinez-bh1ng Well thats your opinion. For us Haitians, our history begins before 1492 and it begins with the natives, Anacaona, Guacanagarix, Caonabo etc... its so intertwined with our culture that even many of the towns and cities in Haiti still bare native names, the name of the country itself Ayiti we retained in honor of OUR ANCESTORS when we became independent, our language Kreyol has many Indigenous words and elements and I can go on and on. But of course many non-Haitians would love to deny this because its a truth they only want for themselves and they want to disassociate us from the land. Aya Bombé Aji Period🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹
@@j-xl6258 You are entitled to that opinion but I disagree. The history of Manieles Zambos Marroons from 1519-1620 and the treaties they made with Spain is Dominican history. Up till 1697 and the skirmishes between France and Spain on the island is still Dominican history. From 1698-1791 France imported 30k slaves a year. The vast majority of Haitians are if pure African descent. Not every Haitian has Native ancestry and the ones that do have Dominican ancestors. That is irrefutable.
@@JoseMartinez-bh1ng Thats your opinion also. True Haitians know.our history and more and more are waking up to the truth about who we are, what our culture is comprised of and its very much native to the island, and that bothers outsiders. The main problem, I notice, especially from some dominican and puerto ricans who want the indigenous identity to be exclusive to them based on phenotype, is that many of you think you know Haitian history and culture and you really do not. You go off of history books written by non-Haitians, or mis-informed or under-informed sellout haitians, heresay from older people who dont know what they are talking about and sometimes blatant bias, racist sources and then you think its what the truth is. And you barely think to ask actual Haitiand who are very self aware of themselves and their history.
I have watched so many videos on the indigenous people of Haiti and Dominican Republic and they all say something different except one thing that there is still 61 % tiahini dna in the population but the government didn't want to recognize it because they would be entitled to compensation...very sad..
One of the biggest things I’ve learned is about the confederate war. Indians of the Iroquois wrote the constitution, there were plans to make everything peaceful after the immigrants came. Our old coins had Indians on em and were replaced. So we actually created the government and they stole and perverted it.
Yup. There is tons of documentation records n illustrations proving "blacks" r indigenous. Especially for "blacks" in the states. Do your own research. As soon as u start getting close to the truth u will notice other ppl of other races start to try to get u to look away. If it wasnt true then why they so worried.
thank u bro saying real facts about Haitian there blacks in Caribbean islands and in America before the Atlantic slave trades before creole we speak indigenous taino arawak Yucatan peninsula language thanks bro real facts you are saying Haitians all the Caribbean islands in black Americans are not Africans
@@Xenlacasa45 Just because your black doesn’t mean your indigenous to Africa. They are black Native Americans but they aren’t African. Skin color should not always be associated with race.
Welcome to the party.. when Europeans still believed the world was flat, Africans have already been procreating in thee Americas for thousands of years 😑
The real Haiti people is native Americans lol.....the Haiti people of today is just "Africans" born in Haiti - is like creole languages ain't they real languages 👑👑😂💯🤣🎯😂
We are Arawaks stop with your bullshit lies and fake ass over embellishments of the African slave trade most of us were already here. Look up the American Indian slave trade. Be proud to be American unless your really are from Africa and can prove it not thru fake dna ethnicities test. Thru actual documentation which can be found. Otherwise if your African then this isnt your fight and just enjoy the fruits of our struggle... THEY NOT LIKE US
