In this video, a lovely lady from Indonesia takes time out to compare the differences between Indonesia and her current home at the moment, The Philippines.... #manila #indonesia
I don't think my fellow Filipinos realize, but the reason she says we Filipinos are Pacific Islander is because most 3rd gen Filipino immigrants in the US aka 90s kids onwards claim Pacific Islander ancestry because it was cool, especially in California. 😂 Indo lady sounds like she went to school there if she's 35.
100% correct. It is Filipino Americans who live in the coast that keep on claiming the Pacific Islander name, even though the Philippines is literally geographically located in South East ASIA. Those Filipino Americans take it as an insult to be even told by actual Pacific Islanders, like Samoans that Filipinos are not Pacific Islanders. It is more crazy for the woman to say Filipinos and Indonesians don't alike, considering the people are indistinguishable from each other when it comes to physical features and stature, the languages are even closer to one another relationship wise. The Southern Philippines practically has many Malaysians, which also is indistinguishable from Indonesians. My Auntie from the Philippines moved to Indonesia for a short term contractual work in tourism promotion and she already spoke four Filipino languages. She was shocked she understood conversations in Indonesian without having ever studied it.
@@alanguages it’s also worthy to note that when you look up “Malay archipelago” the Philippines is literally included in that. So not only is it incorrect to refer to the Philippines as Pacific Islander, it would mean the entire malay archipelago isn’t Asia.
as an Indonesian, we actually know that the Philippines and Indonesian people share the same ancestors, especially the Sulawesi people. 🤔 that lady has to read more.
Girlie didn’t know that filipino originally the most related to native taiwanese (austronesian) and somewhat related to southern china ethnic groups, just to call filos “pacific islander”
Saying Filipinos aren’t technically southeast Asian is the dumbest thing someone can say. Not to mention highly insulting since the Philippines has has a LONG history of trade and contact with the rest of Asia. Parts of it was literally under Brunei rule and some of the ancient kingdoms paid regular tribute to China. Also it’s a founding member of ASEAN. It’s like saying the Uk and Ireland aren’t European. How is that not Asian?
Just let them be...hahaha There's always misconception on us...for Asians, we are semi-Spanish, for Westerners we are not too Asians. We'll I'm embracing our difference, that's the result of our very long contact with the West. I'm already tired of explaining, if they see as Spanish, then "Ole!"...hahaha
As A Filipino American yes technically were Asian by geography and Race. But Culturally I feel more aligned to Mexicans and Islanders than with the rest of South East Asian or East Asians. I lived and Worked as ESL teacher in The Philippines too from 2010-2015. I mainly worked with Koreans and I used to get into discussions with them about how they also don’t feel Filipinos are Asian in a cultural sense but at time they feel at ease by it too because Asians are very competitive with one another and they never feel that with competitiveness with Filipinos.
@@martialway81 you’re primarily talking about East Asians. Southeast Asians in general are more relaxed and fluid when it comes to time. I’ve been around Southeast Asia and yes each country is different but there are a ton of cultural similarities they have with the Philippines. You sound like you haven’t been to any other ASEAN country
@@irwinmier484 Don’t need to go to any other South East Asian country When I can find everything that South East Asia has to offer and better in The Philippines my homeland. You probably think your special for that 😂.
@@martialway81not him but youre being elitist. Sure you can find an airport likr Changi in Singapore in the Ph? You can find Nasi Padang in Ph? A whole other non southeast asian biodiversity in the Ph? Nuknukan ka ng pagkaignorante tapos proud ka pa
Indonesia are slightly similar to the Philippines; the only difference are history, food, and religion. Indonesia was a colony of the Netherlands, while Philippines was Spain on the vice-royal to Mexico for 333 years than pass to the Americans. So, Filipinos have more hispanic influence than the rest of asia.
What is she saying? If we're pacific islanders, then indonesians are pacific islanders as well. Indonesia is also a group of islands floating in the pacific. and theyre also austronesians just like filipinos. We're actually much closer to China geographically to be honest and the very first chinatown was from philippines so if there's someone who's more asian it would be filipinos. I dont think she understands what she's saying and she actually makes inaccurate and very ignorant point. Is she trying to elevate her kind and make herself feel special so she discredits and strips us of our identity? IRONICALLY, YOU CAN SEE THE PEOPLE IN THE BACKGROUND LOOKING mORE ASIAN THAN HER, ACTUALLY.
The majority are in understanding because it's an objective fact. You can look it up on google. Filipinos have always been southeast asian. Indonesians are no different since were both Austronesian.@@TravelwithSaj89
she made an uninformed remark by saying the philippines is not in southeast asia or filipinos are not southeast asians. pacific islander? technically by definition, that's true, and so are indonesians. i would've expect more from her since she's indonesian, a fellow southeast asian, and most of all, a radio presenter. more informed, especially at 35. i've not heard of the term pacific islander until I moved to the US. I believe the term originated in the US for purpose of statistical records, groupings, research and study. immigrants and US born are classified according to ethnicity. It's actually Asian American and Pacific Islader Heritage month now (May)
Jay what a wonderful insight ..she's catching a lot of heat from that statement.. it's interesting as I'm learning alot through these debates and discussions ...
What the heck not Asian? Only Filipinos who grew up in the west or half Filipinos who grew up abroad call themselves Pacific Islander but all Filipinos who grew up in the Philippines 100% consider ourselves as Southeast Asians and not Pacific Islander, only difference is that we are mostly influenced by the US rather then Europeans. Sorry but as a Filipino who was born and raised in the Philippines, I find it insulting and insensitive if you call us not Asians and a Pacific Islander. And what do you expect with the food in the Philippines coz its 90% Catholics and Christians naturally you will not see a lot of Muslim friendly foods specially in Luzon and Visayas coz the population there is mostly Catholics and we love our pork and if we go to other countries we also respect their culture and food and we try to adapt and we dont complain coz we are the foreigners in that place.
We are true South East Asian. We are more Austronesian than Indonesians actually. We can be Pacific Islanders too BUT only becoz Philippines is in the Pacific Ocean which is the same with Indonesia.
another funny comment when a big percentage of Indonesians are Austronesian stock. There are however, melanesians in indonesia.... fyi Pacific Islanders eg. Polynesian's heritage is also Austronesian
actualy philippines and indonesian almost the same look, we came also from the race of malay, if you saw indonesian like her, shes more on chinise side, and i beliave his ancestors maybe chinise..like some of our race, we are not islander because our country is archepelago like indonesia and malasia
@@TravelwithSaj89 some Indonesian have mixture from Austroasiatic people such as Thai people. since Austronesian and Austroasiatic people originally from Southern China 2000+ years ago.. before they started migrated in Maritime Southeast Asia region during Han chinese conquest in Southern China.. just look at 2000+ years old rice terraces found in Northern Philippines.. it was build during their migration from Taiwan.
There's no such thing "Malay Race", that was just an invention of Professor Otley Beyer. We are the only country to use that terminology. Malaysians and Indonesian don't have that concept. Also, an archipelago is a group of islands, you live in an island, you are an islander. Study your History and Geography.
@@jboycaceres2871 so a friend of mine from South Africa classes herself as "Cape Malay" .. do you know anything about this .. and if it has relevance to any of this Malay race terminology
@@TravelwithSaj89 "Cape Malay" is a misnomer. It was the name attributed to the Muslim slaves brought by the British to South Africa from different parts of South Asia and Southeast Asia. For Malaysians being an ethnic Malay means that you are a Muslim. That's why many "Malay Christians" can't get recognition from their local communities.
she needs to visit around the country to know more. it seems like her point is there are qualifications besides being part of the continent of Asia to be Asian. more specifically to be Southeast Asian, you need these certain "requirements".
Austronesians came from Taiwan. Then they went down to the Philippine islands before spreading to the Pacific Islands, Indonesia, Madagascar, New Zealand, and others. Because of our proximity to china, we have a lot of genetic addition from that part. Western colonists also left some genetic imprints. But our mainstream traditional culture is very much influenced by Spain and late the US. We see neighboring countries' traditional cultures as exotic. The lady probably saw the huge difference and declared us as 'not Asian'. Indonesia's being Asian is more Indian (south Asia) while ours is not. While we have substantial genetic inputs from East Asia (that's why others wrote we are 'more Asian' than Indonesians), our culture is very much Latin.
Saying Filipinos isn't that asian cause of their spanish cultures is like saying Indonesian isn't that asian cause of their arab influences😂 Not to mention Indonesia literally has higher black pacific people in their country than Philippine
Arabs are Asian kid and Dutch didnt shared their culture, language, religion, etc to indonesian nor mixed with them Unlike the Spanish to Filipinos which is why Philippines is closer to Latin Americans than Southeast Asians
@@Edgar_Ramirez471 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia-Netherlands_relations Indonesia is a Muslim country because of Arab influence. And yes, the Dutch did mix with Indonesians but not as much. Please Read more.
@@Edgar_Ramirez471 Spanish and Filipino also didn't mix kids, only around 5% Filipinos has spanish dna. The reason filipino have spanish name cause it was hard for spanish to remember Filipino native names, so they changed their names but they didn't mix that much lol Also Arabs not really considered as asians, their culture more match with western
Lol ..I mean some have been trying to educate nicely but quite a few people are heated about it .. I think when it comes to race ... And identity ..people are quite sensitive in their approach as they don't want to be misinterpreted for anything else then they believe they already are
My fellow Filipino: please pardon the Indonesian lady said that you are not south east Asian... Its her own opinion and she is most likely not a learned person. I (Indonesian) know that you are also part of south east Asians, by linguistics, Tagalog goes into the Indo Malay group of languages. There is a proper term which I am not so acquainted
Perempuan itu hanya bingung menjelaskan nya bagaimana. Orang Philipina sangat bahagia kalau mereka disebut keturunan Amerika dan Spanyol. Mau dia bilang Philipina ful asia tenggara juga nanti salah..Indonesian pun dijajah Belanda 350 tahun ada jutaan keturunan Indonesia dan Belanda di Belanda dan di Indonesia tapi kita tidak pernah mengklaim kita adalah Belanda
@@KadriArdi Filipinos and Malaysians are already mix with Arabs, Indians, Chinese, etc unlike the indonesians that are Native Then Spanish came with Mestizos, Native Americans, etc which made Philippines even more unique and closer to South Americans than Southeast Asians
@@Edgar_Ramirez471 Anda bisa melihatnya di RU-vid. Negara pertama tempat migrasi besarbesaran orang China adalah Indonesia. Saat masih bernama Hindia Belanda. Indonesia juga memiliki Pulalasi keturunan arab terbanyak di asia tenggara belum lagi keturunan Belanda dan India.. dari 17juta polasi di Belanda 3juta adalah keturunan Indonesia
@@KadriArdi indo dutch has been slaughtered during your hero sukarno era kid And in statistics 99% of indonesians are native while 1% is european, arab, indian, etc descents While in Philippines and Malaysia Arab/indian population are 5 to 10% of its population, 20 to 30% Chinese, 5 to 10% European descents, etc
Hey it's not ... Most people think that but it's not ... Many Muslim countries still have churches standing strong and respect for other faiths to believe what they want to believe in ...
@@TravelwithSaj89 brother, it's sad but it's in the quran, specifically in surah. it mentioned violence to non-muslim. in my heart i know many muslims are good people, but they should read and understand for themselves what the quran tells them. compare the life of Muhammad and the life of Jesus.
@@TravelwithSaj89In 2023, more than 90,000 Christians were killed by Muslims in Africa and Middle East. You probably didn't hear about any of them, because "Muslims Keep Killing Christians" is a forbidden narrative. (Also, no Jews were involved in the killing, so no news.)
@@TravelwithSaj89is it really tho? You can't really denying build churches among muslims is controversial and alot of muslims usually against churches being build in the neighborhoods they live in
I object! you are mistaken Madame I consider myself to be a South East Asian at the same time Pacific Islander you know why? I can spend the entire day on beach whether it is rainy season or summer, I can hike from coast to coast and back for 5 days in the island of Palawan, I can sleep on a hot summer day lying on the scorching sand, I play football using coconut, I can catch fish using barefoot if that doesn't surprise you, I can talk to the fish to grill itself. 😆😆😆😆😆
Maybe some Pilipinos are Pacific islanders but how can you explain why many Pilipino words are the same with Bahasa Indonesia? Example: mahal, mura, ako, kita, pako, mata, nyamuk (lamok), nasi (cooked rice), etc.?
how to say asian asian in terms of food by saying eating without pork. it is like saying someone that all asian eats only beef and chicken meats. is india not asian? is japanase not asian? Filipino dont care about of what others eat. eat what you want. whether if it is by belief or by needs. as long as you are good to others. everyone is welcome here. religion is not a big deal in the Philippines. the only thing that foreigners need to do is to ask and find where to buy their needs in ph to lessen their struggle. if someone dont like the taste of filipino food feel free to buy or bring what kind of food that they like. it doesnt matter to us.
Hey it's just a religious situation.. the girl is saying as a Muslim she find it bit difficult with pork .. she ain't slandering it she just speaking from her experience as a Indonesian Muslim ..
@@TravelwithSaj89 We have a considerable Muslim population concentrated in Mindanao. There are pockets of Muslim communities in Metro Manila and other major cities. I'm assuming there are halal restaurants within or nearby. I've known some local Muslims who are not strict with their food. Muslims tourists will find it hard to buy halal food generally but there are Mediterranean/ Persian food available in some restaurants. There are also some vegetarian restaurants. Filipinos love pork and chicken. Filipinos have Spanish, Indian, Chinese and American food influence. We also like Japanese and some Korean food. A lot of our food are simple, survival comfort food that goes perfectly with rice. We can practically eat any cuisine. That's one of the reasons why Filipinos can work and live in most countries around the world. A recent survey showed we like Lebanese food the least. There are some Indonesian/Thai/Viet Restaurants scattered around the main cities. I have two Pho places to go to when I can crave it. I've been to Jakarta and Bali. I did not eat anything memorable. Same with Kuala Lumpur. The best Nasi Goreng I've tasted was from a local food fusion place in my city. I'm planning to visit Thailand and Vietnam in the near future to try out some local food. One of my go-to place while in college was a Thai-restaurant with a Vietnamese cook. She married a Filipino. She was a local legend. Her Tom Yum was the best I've tasted. Filipinos are SE Asian with strong Hispanic influence. Some even call us the Mexicans of Asia. We can also eat Mexican/ Latin American food.
Uh what? We're not Pacific Islanders tho. We're pretty Southeast Asian. We have more in common with Malays, sure, but most of us have Chinese ancestry if you look back far enough. Sure the Philippines is technically an archipelago in the Pacific Ocean, but that's about it.
@@TravelwithSaj89 It's not that complicated. Most filipinos have chinese ancestry and culturally closer to Malays. Just because it's the "austronesian" subgroup doesn't mean we're Pacific Islander. We are not geographically or culturally anywhere close to the nations and cultures of Micronesia, Samoa, Tonga or the other Pacific Islander nations. We are Southeast Asians.
@@TravelwithSaj89 learn about "Austronesian people" who came from Southern China during pre Han dynasty.. Austronesian people were ancient seafaring people who colonized entire Pacific Region.. during their migration when Han dynasty started their conquest in Southern China.
Filipinos are not Pacific Islanders, this has been proven. Filipinos are Austronesians the same with people from taiwan and the rest of south east asia. In fact archeological records show that human actvitiy in the philippines predates those in Indonesia and Malaysia because the AUstronesians went south from Taiwan. This is a fact both through genetics and archeological data. The reason Filipinos look different is due to the saturation of foreign blood and alot of chinese mix as well, cuz Philippines is more of a traditional trading post from Mainland China. IF you however, look at the Bisaya and people from mindanao they are starting to look like indonesians and malaysians. So excluding philippines as not South East Asians is a bad mistake for foreign policies of these nations.
To say good bye in Indonesian are: "sampai jumpa" (see you later or literally translated as "until (we) meet (again)" or in a more colloquial one would be "Daaah or Dah Dah" which is basically a pidgin Dutch as it came from Dag or Daaag means good bye. In the Netherlands I still hear the Dutch say Daag
it's in our education system, yet, other regions of the country have it's own unique languages. we've always been taught english as a secondary language and filipino. so, mostly people outside metro manila, where tagalog is spoken, will have 3 languages..
That chics just called us Pacific islander's lol crazy i dont wanted to be called like that i was born here and my blood veins runs the Filipino blood! I dont care where the hell my ancestors come from what matter is I WAS BORN FILIPINO!
Filipinos are not pacific islanders. we are austronesians that originated from Taiwan. the brown race people who migrated to Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand came from the Philippines. since we are the first island chain that is the nearest to Taiwan.
36% is the official number of Filipino with Chinese-ancestry. People forget that Luzon had a Chinese kingdom that were related to the Ming. And the Hokkien, which are Han, were in Luzon long before the Spanish arrived. Also, Jose Rizal had Tagalog-Spanish-Chinese ancestry, and so were his parents. Someone long ago told me Jose Rizal didn't consider himself Chinese, he considered himself "Austronesian/Pacific Islander". Like, bro, what are y'all smoking, he's literally more Chinese than Tagalog. 😂
pinoy are part of many things like iraq , first nation and so on so to CLASSIFY IT AS asian it does not do justice to the other DNA INVOLVE EVEN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THERE ARE A LOT JEWISH BLOOD ALONG WITH MALAY BLOOD THE PH IS PROBABLY THE THE FIRST COUNTRY THAT'S STARTED AS A MIX RACE IT IT NOT EVEN APPROPRIATE TO CALL IT THAT THE INDIGENOUS ARE THE NEGRITO FOR THEY WHERE IMPORTED BY QUEEN SHEBA AS HER HAND MAID
What is she talking about? To say that The Republic of The Philippines should not not be considered a South East Asian country is some kind of a pure ignorance. FYI, Filipinos, Malaysians, and Indonesians all share a common ancestry with the Austronesian peoples and also, I am 100% sure that the Javanese language has a few similar words with some dialects in the Philippines.
I think she is speaking what other Southeast Asians in general their true perspective how they see us Filipinos They don't consider us as Asians. They have grouped us with other Pacific pokeysuans we beling with Guam, Micronesia, Samoa, Solomon Islands and other such pacific nations not Asian. In a way SEA natiins ir the whole East Asia for nany decades since mid-70's have looked down on us we are below them. Why do you think for years been calling us the "Sick Man Of Asia". They never understood our affinity with western culture. Ither Asians were under western powers too such as Portuguese, Dutch, British, French but their poeple resisted adapting western culture so that is why they vuew us as sell-outs as we embrace western nations f^^king our rear ends. And being Christians doesn't help either. That is why if China does make war with us these ASEAN neighbors won"t help us. Maybe Japan and South Korea might send combat materials but it will be very minimal as they are saving resources in case China attacks Taiwan.
She got paid very well ah while Filipino workings here not paid very well. So that's why many Filipinos working outside if you don't know. They go to abroad and working there because working abroad paid very well than Philippines. She got paid very well because she is foreigner. So unfair you know.
Wow that's interesting... many people go to dubai and these places like Saudi.. and get paid better than their home countries.. it's all about survival .. some people don't want to move and work or live abroad but find it as a way to feed their family and have a better life financially
Filipinos export more upper managerial ,technical people, and international school teachers to other ASEAN countries than we receive. English speaking skill is one factor.
Nag selos ka nman agad.. isa lng ibig sabihin nyan d afford ng employer nya ang malaking rate ng pinoy..so ung si ate indo. Inofferan s pinas ng 1/2 sa ssweldohin ng pinoy n hindi naman kkagatin ng kabayan natin at sa tingin ni ate indo malaki n un s kanya kya grab n nya.. sweldo kc ni ate indo s bansa nila 1/4 lang s sweldo nya don kaysa s pinas..saka malaking korapsyon dn s kanila bago ka makapasok s trabaho s kanila mag under da table ka muna..gets m n..
