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induction cooker - ZVS waveforms 

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More experiments with the induction cooker. Waveforms on my oscilloscope, figuring out how does it work. It seems to be a series resonant circuit driven above its resonant frequency by an IGBT halfbridge. It uses zero voltage switching (ZVS). The transistors turn on at zero voltage, with no turn-on loss. They turn off under a current, but the turn-off loss is minimized using snubber capacitors. The output power is frequency modulated. Lower frequency gets is closer to resonance, resulting in more power.
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Комментарии : 86   
@dwaynezilla
@dwaynezilla 3 года назад
These teardown and analyses are exactly why I'm here. Ooo, and that demonstration with the snipped sine being overlaid is fantastic. That kind of insight makes this a great learning channel!! I'm here because I wanna see what's inside, but the explanation makes me _understand_ what's inside!
@marcogeri
@marcogeri 3 года назад
You are awesome! I work since more than 15 years on these stuffs and this is probably the best explanation of resonant power stages I have ever seen. Glad to be one of your patrons. Please continue like this.
@Langendimi555
@Langendimi555 3 года назад
Awesome! Thanks for spoiling us with so much video time this week. We should send more power electronics to CZ, these video's are brilliant. No adds, no annoying music, but to the point and amaaazing! Please never stop, this is gold for electronics enthusiasts like me. I have learned more from you (smps) than I did in school.. But these resonant circuits still feel like black magic tho when trying to tune/adjust them 😅
@fabiomuzzi7047
@fabiomuzzi7047 3 года назад
The "Paper waveform simulator" is fantastic. Very nice and clear explaination!
@l_szabi
@l_szabi 3 года назад
The coil heats the pot not just by eddy currents, but also by the hysteresis losses, which (i think) may be much more significant in this case, that's why it only works with ferromagnetic materials, like iron and steel. Aluminum is not ferromagnetic, but it could still be heated by eddy currents. However, usually the bottom of aluminum pots are thin so less eddy currents can flow there. I think it could work with thicker pots, even not ferromagnetic ones, I'm not sure though. I need to learn more in this topic, but something tells me that the magnetic properties of the pot is important. (Maybe for the coupling of the field of the coils?) You can also think of it like the pot being the core of the inductor. The cooker basically utilizes the heat that would mean the losses in a transformer. Maybe you could try is with sheets of various thickness and materials. Also, awesome video as always!
@EdwinSteiner
@EdwinSteiner 2 месяца назад
Your paper waveform simulator is so awesome! Great explanation!
@andymouse
@andymouse 3 года назад
Fascinating breakdown ! sooo much info and well explained, I especially love you PWS demo ! ( Paper Waveform System) great way to teach.....cheers.
@DrHouse-zs9eb
@DrHouse-zs9eb 3 года назад
The buttons probably worked fine with the original glass on it... But you are right about the rotary knob. The new models got rid of it.
@dosgos
@dosgos 3 года назад
Bloody great cooking video series.
@largepimping
@largepimping 3 года назад
I've been looking at induction cooktops -- those are great points about the capacitive buttons/switches. Helps me with making a choice!
@anoimo9013
@anoimo9013 3 года назад
Absolute thorough explanation with high level of practical details of a complex black magic-like phenomena
@LawpickingLocksmith
@LawpickingLocksmith 2 года назад
Super! Always wanted to do this myself. Thanks for showing. And you picked the best cooktop too!
@johnconrad5487
@johnconrad5487 2 года назад
Good explanation. Thanks for making this video.
@dosgos
@dosgos 3 года назад
Awesome paper cutting example. Complexity well explained.
@Speeder84XL
@Speeder84XL 3 года назад
Really interesting! Appherently they use varying frequency to tune/detune the circuit more or less into/out of resonance, to regulate power. Always running the circuit in full resonance (with true zero voltage switching) and have current regulation on the input instead, would give slightly better efficiency - but requires more components. It's all about making simple and cheap design and it's still way more efficient than an "ordinary" stove using resistive heating.
@achimxe2617
@achimxe2617 3 года назад
Great explanatory video!
@seandoofer5720
@seandoofer5720 3 года назад
interesting lesson in magnetics, thanks Danyk.
@Pirelli.
@Pirelli. 3 года назад
Great explanatory video! Thank you very much mr DGW!! Greetings from switzerland ☺️
@nguy80303
@nguy80303 2 года назад
Thank you!!! I studied resonant converters in my master degree classy. I had not thought interns that above resonant converters is exactly cutting the sine wave short. I gain new knowledge today
@ivankirola2707
@ivankirola2707 3 года назад
I am happy to see this oscilloscope
@barjan82
@barjan82 3 года назад
Cooking our Saturday lunch soup on a induction cooker while watching this 😀
@THEMFORMATION
@THEMFORMATION 2 года назад
Damn this guy would make a good inventor.
@mohinderkaur6671
@mohinderkaur6671 3 года назад
Great explanation - Thanks
@marcinborkowicz2557
@marcinborkowicz2557 3 года назад
Danyk, bloody hell!😉 It's my second attempt to watch it carefully and (try my best to) understand as many as I can. First time I fell asleep but not because the video was boring or too long, no! - it's because at the evening I like to challenge my brain and bend it at such demanding but fricking interesting things like you present. Anyway, man - you've got an exceptional talent to teach people some nerdy stuff in such interesting and educative way. Kudos!
@francoisdastardly4405
@francoisdastardly4405 2 года назад
I really love your soviet oscilloscope !!
@mikajuurikivi4293
@mikajuurikivi4293 3 года назад
Really good video 👍
@electronic7979
@electronic7979 3 года назад
Helpful video 👍
@spamlucal
@spamlucal 3 года назад
Your videos are amazing
@YatendraSaraswat
@YatendraSaraswat 2 года назад
Love the content & our South Indian ascent is awesome 👌
@imapay2winandyouarefree2pl87
@imapay2winandyouarefree2pl87 3 года назад
I'm Late But That is awesome Waveforms
@roseelectronics4582
@roseelectronics4582 3 года назад
You're not late.
@Dumpy.38
@Dumpy.38 3 года назад
Same
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 3 года назад
Tractor feed paper!! With tear-off sides!!!!!
@JAINUL_HAQ
@JAINUL_HAQ 3 года назад
I only picked up 10% of what you are talking about.... But want to learn as much as i can
@firefox1136
@firefox1136 3 года назад
Thanks for the Great vid! I have a video Idea For you: You could turn your SSTC into a DRSSTC by adding a resonanz capacitor to the primary side. It would be interesting to see, what effect it had on the arcs.
@RGMadu
@RGMadu 3 года назад
I will leave a like because I liked the whole videoooo.
@katsuoto4684
@katsuoto4684 3 года назад
I think This ZVS behavior on this video is similar to that of LLC converter, and also I think this ZVS topology well fit to this application due to driving inductive load. Thank you for sharing interesting video!
@gabrielhacecosas
@gabrielhacecosas 3 года назад
Please make a secondary coil with many turns that is in resonance with the cooker coil and see if it becomes a tesla coil, I've always wanted to do that, but I don't have an induction stove.
@mylestechnological7031
@mylestechnological7031 3 года назад
That waveform looks very close to a circuit that I designed
@Paxmax
@Paxmax 3 года назад
Awesome walkthrough, great explanations.... and yes, what the heck happened to stove useability over the years?! This touch-design-over-function BS must stop, just give us easy grip knobs that turn, are easy to clean and doesn't get flooded over incase of something boiling over. One of the great features of induction is that it almost instantly stops adding heat once you turn down (as opposed to steel plates/IR).
@bonzeno85
@bonzeno85 3 года назад
Man. You're so smart...... ...and so is your cat 😂😂
@user-vm1hi7bo5s
@user-vm1hi7bo5s 3 года назад
It's probably would be easier to manage this controls by changing the radius your finger is making. When you have to change power, place your finger closer to the center of it and vice versa.
@rogeronslow1498
@rogeronslow1498 2 года назад
Nice video. I wonder if the power devices have anti-parallel diodes in them.
@sortofsmarter
@sortofsmarter 3 года назад
Cooking with diode's...lol
@endremurti
@endremurti Год назад
hy thanks for explaining such awesome work,, what diode do you use to limit the voltage of the current sensing probe?
@addd281
@addd281 3 года назад
👍
@MuhammadHanif-bx4pb
@MuhammadHanif-bx4pb 3 года назад
I have cheap inductive stove (around 30USD) and it seems like it not that advanced, it basically cycles periodically like resistive element. if I set it to minimum power it have duty cycle of 10% with around a minute or less for the cycle to complete and if I put it to 10 it basically stays on. and the amazing thing happen when it's fully on. after 10 minutes of operations the big "smoothing" capacitor right aver full bridge rectifier pops and fuming and surprisingly the fuse didn't blow FML.
@morijitesh5923
@morijitesh5923 3 года назад
Grate👍👍👍
@rex-up9ln
@rex-up9ln 3 года назад
unexpected face reveal @ scope screen ;)
@firefox1136
@firefox1136 3 года назад
to be honest, you can find pictures of him on the Internet, you just have to know where to look...
@rex-up9ln
@rex-up9ln 3 года назад
yep, I know.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 3 года назад
Could you make us a basic tutorial on how KVD drivers work?
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 3 года назад
Sawtooth wave is just a triangle with a skewed duty cycle. 😏
@douro20
@douro20 3 года назад
So why did they take this thing apart? Did the control panel stop working?
@piconano
@piconano 3 года назад
We've come far from cooking with camp fire!
@Azaakiel20
@Azaakiel20 2 года назад
looks like pulsing reactive powers of the coils?
@makspesic2869
@makspesic2869 3 года назад
😃👏👍👍
@souravrangnekar2347
@souravrangnekar2347 3 года назад
Can u tell.....induction cooktop is of which brand?
@user-vm6mv8il6s
@user-vm6mv8il6s 9 месяцев назад
how can it turn on zero voltage
@cherrymountains72
@cherrymountains72 3 года назад
Wow, chain paper... Dot matrix printers rejoice!
@Purple431
@Purple431 3 года назад
Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistor
@roseelectronics4582
@roseelectronics4582 3 года назад
Invented by an Indian scientist.
@PCbolt17
@PCbolt17 3 года назад
@@roseelectronics4582 Jayant Bakigha sir I think...
@roseelectronics4582
@roseelectronics4582 3 года назад
@@PCbolt17 I'm sure. You got a nice channel going, subscribed.
@Purple431
@Purple431 3 года назад
To me? ^w^
@roseelectronics4582
@roseelectronics4582 3 года назад
@@Purple431 I just said IGBT was an invention of an India physicist.
@bladelt1
@bladelt1 3 года назад
now make it full bridge
@amkp40technology
@amkp40technology 3 года назад
Nice 14:57:
@ciprianpopa1503
@ciprianpopa1503 3 года назад
So, no carrot soup recipe?
@taharmouz8864
@taharmouz8864 3 года назад
More complicated episode
@PreetPal2107
@PreetPal2107 3 года назад
Well, no one do so much analysis as you doing bcoz girls and women knows about eating and cooking 😄😄
@shayhsopwagqehghggtfyggty2635
@shayhsopwagqehghggtfyggty2635 3 года назад
Can it work with 400V AC?
@rkan2
@rkan2 3 года назад
If you are talking about three phase, then yes in previous videos he explained it was a three phase - as many European stoves/ovens are.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 3 года назад
No, it's not 3 phase. It has 2 phases going into it, but each half uses one of them and neutral. It runs on 230V, not 400V. The components are not rated to run on 400V.
@Ka9radio_Mobile9
@Ka9radio_Mobile9 3 года назад
Who needs math anyways. :-)
@chelarestelar
@chelarestelar 3 года назад
.
@liudas5377
@liudas5377 3 года назад
Hey, no cat shot?...
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 3 года назад
the cat is at 7:31 :)
@englishrupe01
@englishrupe01 3 года назад
He doesn't shoot cats....he only photographs them.....and he did that, yes :=)
@savage101.
@savage101. 3 года назад
What accent is that
@peterpeper4837
@peterpeper4837 3 года назад
Why do you speak like that?
@RobotN001
@RobotN001 3 года назад
This is the best English from the Czech.
@dosgos
@dosgos 3 года назад
Not really on point regarding this brilliant video.
@Paxmax
@Paxmax 3 года назад
🤔 you mean english..? Hmmm.... Greater audience reach..? 🤔 ...😁
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