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Induction light - what's inside, schematic, experiments 

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Electrodeless induction fluorescent lamp fixture teardown. Disassembly, how does it work, what's inside the power supply, reverse engineering the schematic, showing the waveforms on oscilloscopes.
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@BusyElectrons
@BusyElectrons 8 месяцев назад
This was a fascinating tear-down. Well worth the time. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it ;)
@jessishandsome
@jessishandsome 8 месяцев назад
This light must be the ham radio killer
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
230kHz sine wave is probably better than 50kHz square wave with a lot of ringing.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 8 месяцев назад
Actually no. There are even 2.65 and 13.6 MHz induction lamps and everything worked fine.
@lorenzorentniop717
@lorenzorentniop717 8 месяцев назад
It's because the induction ring has somewhat of a shealding
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 8 месяцев назад
You are forgetting the Harmonic Frequencies. And, a Square wave = every wave, Spark Gap Transmitter. RFI +
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 месяцев назад
These cause a lot of interference on AM bands ime. Used them as grow lights a while back. They do have one advantage though. They have an extremely long service life ❤
@SrLobo90
@SrLobo90 8 месяцев назад
Preserve them properly, the driver and construction is wonderful, it is built to last. Thanks for the disassembly, these lamps have always fascinated me for their great durability.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
I definitely keep them :) my future vidoes might be recorded under them.
@davida1hiwaaynet
@davida1hiwaaynet 7 месяцев назад
Beautiful piece of engineering. This is 1000 times better than any short or tick-tock video. Thank you! I will order a lamp of this type to use at my workshop, after my bad experiences with LED outdoor lights. I really appreciate your time spent on this.
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 8 месяцев назад
24:00 that's because an analog scope doesn't show you one-time events, like those random pulses on the digital scope. Or rather, it does show them to you, but the human eye cannot see them fast enough due to them not repeating in a certain pattern, like the gate drive signal. A digital scope shows you those because it first stores all the info it gets from the ADC, then it displays the info to you, including random pulses and noise. Also, the long vids are great, your vids always feel too short :)
@FindLiberty
@FindLiberty 8 месяцев назад
Love it !
@panzerkampfwagen161
@panzerkampfwagen161 8 месяцев назад
You know its going to be a good day when diodegonewild uploads
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 8 месяцев назад
Very interesting lamps, never seen them before. Thanks for making the detailed video.
@2arc.
@2arc. 8 месяцев назад
Great video. I had never seen a lamp like this one. I have been working with electronics for thirty years, in my experience I have only had contact with a few examples from Eastern Europe because the machinery I used to maintain had parts from Hungary. Very interesting. As anyone can see, the cat is very concerned about your health.
@Ale.K7
@Ale.K7 8 месяцев назад
Very cool and well constructed lamps, thanks for explaining us how they work!
@Alchemetica
@Alchemetica 8 месяцев назад
Great video. The lamp housings are very cool, the sort of lamp housings one often sees in restaurants for the "in" people. The length is fine with me, those shorts and tic-toc videos are clearly designed for those with a short attention span.
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 8 месяцев назад
I don't think they use 200W fluorescent lamps in a restaurant :) Those are heavy duty industrial lamps. For warehouses and factories and such probably. But nowadays it's fashionable to make low power lamps mimicking that look for some reason. I've seen them at IKEA where they had cheapish lamps but with about five 1/2" bolts to hold a plastic lampshade, and something like a six watt LED bulb.
@Alchemetica
@Alchemetica 8 месяцев назад
@westelaudio943 Yes, it was the shades I was referring to and the type of restaurant is where they sandblast the walls back to brick and make an "industrial" look. And they end up with terrible acoustics - reverberation plus.
@brancarr1
@brancarr1 7 месяцев назад
Never heard of inductive lighting before. Thanks for sharing.
@7oplex09
@7oplex09 8 месяцев назад
It's so cool that my home city is still using these type of lamps since 2016. Right now, they're still in operation and they haven't loss their brightness since. They're very robust and long lasting. Sadly, they're ever so slightly being replaced by LEDs.
@MrEdwinHubble
@MrEdwinHubble 8 месяцев назад
I love that some random components are flopping around in the variac knob. Never change DGW!
@thewindevtech
@thewindevtech 8 месяцев назад
I am always happy to watch longer videos on your channel :D Also, i really like all these teardowns :D
@VoidElectronics
@VoidElectronics 8 месяцев назад
Nice job! I was always fascinated by these. I liked the reverse engineering of the ballast. 😁
@madscientist15808
@madscientist15808 8 месяцев назад
Awesome video and teardown. Maybe one day you can get your hands on a sulfur lamp, I'm sure that would also make for a really interesting video. Or you just build one with all the magnetrons you got ;) Btw, at 19:41, you can see that they even printed the time when the board was manufactured or designed on the silkscreen (14:48:42)
@TheTemporalAnomaly
@TheTemporalAnomaly 8 месяцев назад
Great video and very happy with the longer formats.
@quantumleap359
@quantumleap359 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for this in-depth teardown and operation. I've always wanted to know how these things work and see the internals. As usual, great video.
@HIDLad001
@HIDLad001 8 месяцев назад
Induction lamps were used for street lighting for a brief period in the US. Because these are 5000K, they would probably make great video lights.
@mostlymotorcycles.
@mostlymotorcycles. 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for the best deep dive electronics channel on the planet.
@Speeder84XL
@Speeder84XL 8 месяцев назад
Really interesting! I have never seen a lamp like that before.
@steve-paul
@steve-paul 8 месяцев назад
I've been waiting for one of these types of videos with an induction lamp for so long!!
@curiousflight5923
@curiousflight5923 8 месяцев назад
Every time I learn something new. Thanks a lot for these videos.
@ehfik
@ehfik 8 месяцев назад
your videos make me smile. thank you!
@fredcrayon
@fredcrayon 8 месяцев назад
You were straddling the Nyquist frequency which was giving you the frequency aliasing but you already know this! That light could almost be another retina burner!😂
@tiagoferreira086
@tiagoferreira086 8 месяцев назад
What an awesome fixtures! Great build quality and technology, i didn't even knew there were light tubes electrodeless induction driven. I wish i could have a couple of them, you friend was pretty cool in give you those nice fixtures. I like to see that you refurbished one, very cool indeed. Also your videos are never to long, please keep going with your great work and content 👍
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 месяцев назад
These have a very well made power supply. Most would be fried with operation with the wiring changes and open transformer. Also the wire coil in the glass pip is the ignition antenna. The plasma forms around that then ignites the rest of the lamp.❤
@ManuelGonzalez-tc1bl
@ManuelGonzalez-tc1bl 8 месяцев назад
good teardown and explanation as always👍
@W1RMD
@W1RMD 8 месяцев назад
Very cool! I'd love to have one as a work light for my electronics bench. Great job on this video.
@Alexelectricalengineering
@Alexelectricalengineering 8 месяцев назад
I definitely prefer your videos, love it, keep going 😎👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@hosemarino
@hosemarino 8 месяцев назад
Those are my favourite videos. Thanks.
@a.lisnenko
@a.lisnenko 8 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot! Haven't seen these lamps ever in my life.
@pierre7127
@pierre7127 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for the this long and very informative video (not like some crappie stuff on TikTok or shorts). I really appreciate your work. 👍 Merry Christmas 🎄
@michaelfisher9671
@michaelfisher9671 8 месяцев назад
So huge. Hope you have a large attic
@FindLiberty
@FindLiberty 8 месяцев назад
Very good - Thank you Gave me 30 minutes of joy with 100% concentrated attention at 3:30 am Oct 30 2023
@George_salve.magister
@George_salve.magister 8 месяцев назад
I like long videos because are more detailed one!Keep it up!
@ikehsamuelifeanyi4925
@ikehsamuelifeanyi4925 8 месяцев назад
Great video as always Watching from Africa.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 8 месяцев назад
The verdict? Nice!
@RazvanTataroiu
@RazvanTataroiu 8 месяцев назад
28:00 I love how the autotransformer knob is used as a random parts bin :)
@WinningOnline
@WinningOnline 8 месяцев назад
These lamps are far more reliable than most of the LED equivalents and can last up to 100,000hrs
@armin7515
@armin7515 8 месяцев назад
as always nice video❤ watching from iran
@ingloriousbuddah
@ingloriousbuddah 8 месяцев назад
love the longer videos
@Mike-gk7qh
@Mike-gk7qh 8 месяцев назад
Nice video,,,we need much longer videos👍👍
@uecmitsuimarinedieselengin873
@uecmitsuimarinedieselengin873 8 месяцев назад
Very nice lamp, mine inductively coupled plasma functions in a similar way.
@power-max
@power-max 6 месяцев назад
22:30 you can also notice that the ON time here is nearly constant and that makes sense when you look at the boost converter topology and average input current.
@timun4493
@timun4493 8 месяцев назад
oh the crazy czech with the magnetron plasma speaker has a youtube channel, awesome, love your stuff :)
@mrlux0716
@mrlux0716 8 месяцев назад
what an incredible video! Such a promising technology was discarded by LEDs… and talking about fluorescents, when will you make the video about the Philips electronic starters that you showed in a past video? I am anxiously waiting
@child_of_god_
@child_of_god_ 7 месяцев назад
so entertaining and informative, thankss
@andyapple9
@andyapple9 8 месяцев назад
Finally a SMPS video. Niceeee!
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
The next one will also be a SMPS, with a full schematic :)
@andyapple9
@andyapple9 8 месяцев назад
@@DiodeGoneWildCan't wait to see it. I hope for a new topology that hasn't been already on your channel.
@G1ZQCArtwork
@G1ZQCArtwork 8 месяцев назад
Very interesting, keep it up. Like the Cat and the Dog as supervisors.
@robertball2741
@robertball2741 8 месяцев назад
Really interesting, thank-you
@lmwlmw4468
@lmwlmw4468 8 месяцев назад
Nice work.
@plevoss
@plevoss 8 месяцев назад
Supr video! Díky :)
@harrymartin1661
@harrymartin1661 8 месяцев назад
Allways good!
@3327439
@3327439 8 месяцев назад
svaka cast na videu
@Desert-edDave
@Desert-edDave 8 месяцев назад
Lol 9:16 random but I love it. "...and here is the dog."
@blg53
@blg53 8 месяцев назад
Because this fluorescent ring lamp does not have heated cathodes on its' end it is very difficult to see how it can possibly fail. Also there should be no darkening of ends for the same reason. No wires threaded through the glass should also add longevity. It looks like that design is well out of step with the 21-st century philosophy of "built-in obsolescence" which probably explains why it has been largely discarded.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 8 месяцев назад
The only way I can imagine it failing is the phosphor coating on the inside of the tube falling off after many decades of wear, producing blue light instead of white. It could also absorb the argon and mercury reducing the pressure and efficiency. As long as the tube is not cracked allowing air to get in, it should never fail completely.
@techtinkerin
@techtinkerin 8 месяцев назад
When I was younger I would have used these for growing special plants😂
@laughingoreilly1334
@laughingoreilly1334 8 месяцев назад
Interesting video thanks
@piezku
@piezku 8 месяцев назад
long videos are always better than short ones. its impossible to get this deep into something with a shorter video
@michalcz123
@michalcz123 8 месяцев назад
Dobrý pivo na začátku. :D (Nice beer at the beginning. :D)
@AmerRimireZ
@AmerRimireZ 8 месяцев назад
🎉Great video 🎉
@sneakybeanie01134
@sneakybeanie01134 8 месяцев назад
Been subscribed to you for a long time now. When are you making a live?
@AllLoudNation365
@AllLoudNation365 8 месяцев назад
Awesome!
@galaxycomputers7252
@galaxycomputers7252 8 месяцев назад
Thanks great job Plz experiment on strat tube light with these induction rings.
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 8 месяцев назад
They are very attractive light fixtures. 5000 K is blindingly bright. I like the softer lighting around in the 3000 k Spectrum. Fascinating teardown! Thank you for the video & for a chance to see this type of Technology!👍
@timhartherz5652
@timhartherz5652 8 месяцев назад
The 5000K is the color temperature not the brightness. It's basically almost perfectly white light. Not very cozy for a living room but perfect for studios and workshops.
@75L48
@75L48 8 месяцев назад
not suitable for factories this lamps come from. Warm light 1800-3800K promotes feelings of sleepiness. 4000-4500K is neutral, suitable for work offices. Cool/daylight white 5000-6500K promotes sharpness, thus it gets used in critical workspaces where poeple need to stay focused.
@sanjikaneki6226
@sanjikaneki6226 8 месяцев назад
for the high side FET i can see a few reasons why you want to use a transformer but for the lower one the only reason i can imagine is extra safety OR control is somehow galvalicaly isolated itself from the lamp part
@windigo000
@windigo000 8 месяцев назад
love the reference dog.
@monoc4d
@monoc4d 8 месяцев назад
Thanks!!!
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 8 месяцев назад
I'm curious: what is the benefit of this induction style lamp over a notmal filament based fluorescent light?
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
Mainly no electrodes to wear out. This thing can last 100 000h, while normal tubes last 5000 - 25 000h.
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 8 месяцев назад
@@DiodeGoneWild that's quite amazing. I suppose short cycles also aren't a problem for an induction lamp either? (Versus short cycling a filament based tube and instant starting it seems to shorten the life dramatically)
@analoghardwaretops3976
@analoghardwaretops3976 8 месяцев назад
​@@DiodeGoneWild...and even after 200K hours of running... there's supposed to be less than (5-10)% decrease in light (brightness) output.
@kyoudaiken
@kyoudaiken 8 месяцев назад
Very nice. I think my city has bought some of these with the tiny bean in the middle for street lighting in the short period before LEDs. They are still running them! What has been bought is being used until it breaks or the supply of the lamps has depleted. German cities are more ecological and sustainable than German enterprises.
@VC-oz5fi
@VC-oz5fi 8 месяцев назад
Even in this era I think this lamp is still have their own place. They are is relatively compact, energy efficient, and doesn't require massive cooling like LED
@beatrute2677
@beatrute2677 8 месяцев назад
that big reflector would make a interesting topload for a tesla coil
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
Good idea :)
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 8 месяцев назад
And you could use the induction lamp with the Tesla coil if the chinese power supply failed.
@5478Ashley
@5478Ashley 8 месяцев назад
I like how you start the video with a fire extinguisher
@chuckvanderbildt
@chuckvanderbildt 8 месяцев назад
Those glass covers may be interesting for making a wimshurst machine.
@atoptip6193
@atoptip6193 8 месяцев назад
What makes the clicking noise when there does not appear to be a electro-mechanical relay? All the best to my fave channel!
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
Probably the loose halves of the ferrite cores at a high current due to magnetic forces (or magnetostriction).
@whatevernamegoeshere3644
@whatevernamegoeshere3644 8 месяцев назад
22:18 I think it's to make it a bit more bulletproof in overvoltage or similar cases. That transformer will 100% certainly lock out one mosfet while the other is running so that means a short is basically impossible. It will always fail just dead instead of failing smoked and spicy like a good dinner
@hendriagustian7082
@hendriagustian7082 8 месяцев назад
Maybe
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi 8 месяцев назад
Those are so cool. I've never heard of this tech before for some reason.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
There were also rectangular ones. But induction lamps were never very common. For these high bay lamps, mercury vapor or metal hallide lamps were used way more commonly, and then LEDs came.
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi 8 месяцев назад
@@DiodeGoneWild Yeah that's pretty much what I've seen here in the states. I wonder if these were just too late to really catch on. I'd imagine they'd really only lose brightness as the phosphors age, I can't see much else that could go wrong with them aside from electrical issues
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 8 месяцев назад
These are much older than you would think, developed by Nikola Tesla in the 1890s. He used both inductive and capacitive coupling.
@tajtrlik1111
@tajtrlik1111 8 месяцев назад
Ďakujem za toto zaujímavé video, ani mi neprišlo nejako veľmi dlhé, ubehlo to rýchlo, lebo ma to bavilo, ja pozerám také elektronické videá, kde sa robí niečo konštruktívne, ako napríklad vysvetľuje nejaká teória, niečo sa rozoberá a vysvetľuje princíp činnosti, ako tu v tomto videu, ešte mám rád aj také videá, kde sa niečo vyrába alebo opravuje. Osobne ma nezaujímajú videá o elektronike, kde ide iba o "špeciálne efekty" ako napríklad odpaľovanie alebo rozbíjanie niečoho len tak pre zábavu, na prvý pohľad to môže vyzerať zaujímavo, ale podľa mňa sa také videá rýchlo opozerajú. A ešte by som chcel niečo povedať k tomu gate driver IO, prečo sa výrobca rozhodol použiť gate driver transformer (GDT), myslím si, že výrobca to urobil preto, aby bolo zariadenie spoľahlivejšie, čítal som niekde skúsenosti nejakého konštruktéra (už si vôbec nepamätám, kto to bol ani kde to bolo), že tieto IO pri budení horného MOSFET-u, kde musí byť použitý bootstrap kondenzátor a dióda, tak niekedy majú problémy so spoľahlivosťou, takže asi to výrobca vedel alebo mal sám s tým problémy pri vývoji, tak sa nakoniec rozhodol ísť "na istotu" a použil radšej GDT. A samozrejme sa veľmi teším na video, kde budeš opravovať časovú základňu toho osciloskopu Tesla, v poslednom videu o oprave tohto osciloskopu si myslím vravel, že bude ešte jedno video o oprave tej časovej základne.
@Veso266
@Veso266 8 месяцев назад
Great lamp As for efficiency, the worst part about its bad for the enviroment crap is that they forbid the sale of it (from incondecent lights that are inefficient (although all the money u save on electricity u spend buying new lamps, because leds like everything else also break and cost twice as much), to flurescent tubes) So even if I would like to use this its impossible to do so because I am unable to buy replacment parts You will buy led for twice as much, and u will throw it out after a short time because we said so.... Hmm, some day led will be seen as inefficient....
@deepblueskyshine
@deepblueskyshine 8 месяцев назад
These reflectors are great industrial design, I'd find a way to reuse them.
@PeterMilanovski
@PeterMilanovski 8 месяцев назад
This light fixture would have been either impossible or huge if it's operating frequency was much lower! I have seen a power transformer built in the early 1900's, designed to work on 25Hz.... It's bloody huge! It just amazes me that a small transformer can put out the same power as a large one and the only difference needed is a difference in AC frequency! LoL now you can have an induction light above your induction cooktop.... Nice 👍
@deltab9768
@deltab9768 8 месяцев назад
Why did that give me this weird mental image, of someone fishing fluorescent tubes through gaps in a 750kVA transformer and trying to get them to light?
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
😄
@SLeslie
@SLeslie 7 месяцев назад
In the medieval times like 20 years ago Tungsram in Hungary was developing induction lamps. Now both inductions lamps and Tungsram are gone (partly thanks to GE I guess).
@6WTF_MAN9
@6WTF_MAN9 8 месяцев назад
Классные светильники) Интересно какой у них ресурс.
@droga_mleczna
@droga_mleczna 8 месяцев назад
You really gotta appreciate industrial electronics - basically indestructible, and when they're thrown away it's usually because the owner wants (or needs, due to regulations) something newer.
@shirishthakare9842
@shirishthakare9842 8 месяцев назад
Non exposing side need internal reflective coating. Why circular section tube? Thin flat rectangular section is more efficient.
@celsoneves2368
@celsoneves2368 8 месяцев назад
Good excellent
@DadofScience
@DadofScience 8 месяцев назад
Assuming the power supply doesn't give out, I wonder what is the lifespan on the bulb and what it's failure mode would be?
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
Well, a good question. If the power supply doesn't fail and the glass doesn't crack or leak air, it would run almost forever. But the phoshor probably deteriorates over time, absorbs the mercury or argon, and maybe outgases and ruins the gas mixture. This thing with an external phosphor would probably last even longer, but it makes no sense in our world with its disposable bussines model.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 8 месяцев назад
@@DiodeGoneWild The external phosphor would fall off, it barely sticks to the inside of the glass tube. You can clear a mercury vapor lamp by putting it on a Tesla coil and the phosphor inside the outer bulb will fall off where the arcs strike it. Unlike high pressure sodium lamps, most mercury vapor lamps have the outer bulb filled with nitrogen and will not produce X-rays.
@drobotk
@drobotk 8 месяцев назад
I think they probably turn pink as the mercury gets absorbed by the phosphor. This happens with regular fluorescent lamps too, but very rarely because the filaments usually fail way sooner than that can happen.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 8 месяцев назад
@@drobotk And pink lamp can still be repurposed as party lights. Fluorescent tubes with broken cathodes will also wors as induction lamps. You can also use Tesla coils and flyback transformers to power them.
@user-ui6xt4fd1f
@user-ui6xt4fd1f 8 месяцев назад
​@@DiodeGoneWildexternal phosphor wouldn't work due to glass absorption of uv, produced by discharge. Quartz tube could work (but less effective due non-zero absorption), but it significantly expensively
@MrTurboturbine
@MrTurboturbine 8 месяцев назад
A little surprised you didn't try measuring the discharge with a coil wrapped on the tube.
@user-ui6xt4fd1f
@user-ui6xt4fd1f 8 месяцев назад
This was done, but thriugh a coil wrapped on the ferrite. Go learn some physics
@MrTurboturbine
@MrTurboturbine 8 месяцев назад
thanks, smartass@@user-ui6xt4fd1f
@anonymoususer6448
@anonymoususer6448 8 месяцев назад
"here's the dog for a reference" haha... How big is the dog? 80Lumen/Watt.... not bad....I think LEDs do close to100Lumen/watt I wonder how much that lamp has lost over the years. Maybe that's why they replaced it? I have a Lux meter, but no idea how to measure the Lumen output of a lamp... would make a nice follow-up video ;-) Anyway. Big thank you for another outstanding video. No bells or whistles, but solid technical explanations... and a good dose of humor.. just as we like it !
@Avetho
@Avetho 8 месяцев назад
I think this kind of bulb can surpass 100k hours of constant on-time, whereas the best LED bulbs (like the Dubai Lamp, maybe) do 50k but the best ones you can actually get are 25k at best. These induction lights would be better too since the only thing you replace in it is the phosphor tube if its gotten too dim, since I read they lose about 35% of their lumens after 60k hours, which is amazing. LEDs may be advertised to lose only 30% after 100k hours but we all know that no LED bulb will ever get anywhere close to that lifespan.
@pietskiet3595
@pietskiet3595 8 месяцев назад
Beautiful lamp that! Would love to see the spectrum, assuming it would similar to a regular florescent?
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
It's probably about the same as regular fluorescent tubes. It's just that the power gets into it differently.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 8 месяцев назад
The spectrum is dependant on the phosphors used. There were many high quality European fluorescent and induction lamps (Philips, Oxfam, etc), and they could have very high CRI if that was desirable. However, the Chinese make clones that were compromised in various ways to reduce costs, especially in the phosphors... that didn't mean that they told the truth about that of course! Usually (for the typical use case for thess) it was better to sacrifice some CRI to increase efficacy, like with LEDs. The lower the CRI, the higher the efficacy, since any phosphor conversion has a
@liam3284
@liam3284 8 месяцев назад
Seen these in a few shops, even brightness between fixtures and good colour rendition. In theory last forever, don't know in practice.
@vaclavtrpisovsky
@vaclavtrpisovsky 8 месяцев назад
In conventional ones, one of the cathode heaters eventually burns out, usually after tens of thousands of hours but the time largely depends on the number of on/off cycles. The starters usually last around 5 times as long as the tubes. Interesting to see how they mitigated these problems for a >100000 h lifetime. Apparently the most mature FL technology ever got.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 8 месяцев назад
The only way for these to fail is probably the phosphor falling off the glass after many decades of wear, producing blue light instead of white or absorbing mercury and argon reducing brightness. Unless the glass breaks it should never fail completely. There are some 100+ year old Geissler tubes in the world that still work. Neon signs with cold cathode can also last 70+ years,
@goldenheart1405
@goldenheart1405 8 месяцев назад
Please make a review of bidirectional technology in solar inverter like voltronic
@higamitakaro
@higamitakaro 8 месяцев назад
I'm still waiting for microwave light overview. I've seen like an Australian guy has remelted such light fixture into inglot, unfortunately.
@hendriagustian7082
@hendriagustian7082 8 месяцев назад
It looks like this GDT circuit is similar to the one using IC TL 494., isolated and safe.
@YouTubeviolatesmy1stamendment
@YouTubeviolatesmy1stamendment 8 месяцев назад
I wonder what the life expectancy is on the bulb are you meant to throw the entire unit away or disassemble it and just change out the phosphorus tube They're built really nice actually I mean it wouldn't be too hard to keep these things going forever if you had tubes
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
I have in total 5 tubes, so I can keep it running for a long time :) but then, they're probably unobtainium or bloody expensive (over 150 USD).
@drobotk
@drobotk 8 месяцев назад
Makes me wonder if it would be possible to put an ordinary T9 circular bulb in it. I wonder if there would be a voltage between the unconnected filaments. Actually, they would probably need to be connected to complete the loop?
@Fluxkompressor
@Fluxkompressor 8 месяцев назад
No easy way of swapping the tube out. You probably spend a good 15 minutes up on a boom lift in an terrible to reach area were these things are meant to go to change just the tube. Then the balast also has 100k hours on it, the glass is dirty and what not. 100k hours is a damn long time for every bit of electronic. Capacitors dry out, junctions go bad and so on Also with 8 hours per day that thing lasts 3 decades. No way you get replacement tubes on them after that They are made to be swapped as a whole unit for sure
@michaelmaass9518
@michaelmaass9518 8 месяцев назад
@@drobotk yes, this will work of course. You can also use a linear tube, connect the pins with a piece of wire to close the loop/circuit and it should/will work. BTW: The last generation of T5 linear tubes have reached an efficiency of over 100 lm/W but are now forbidden to sell due to EU regualtions (thanks a lot to the Brussels bureaucrats).
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 месяцев назад
The design of this would be set and forget. The lamp would give stable output for literally decades.
@lovrinjo6783
@lovrinjo6783 8 месяцев назад
How long does it take you to reverse engineere schematics like that. Do you trace it out on the board or do it with the continuity on the multimiter, or maybie even measure sone voltages for chips or on transistors to know how ot works? Or do you already know how the schematic could look like? Just asking so I could learn that too. I bet it takes a lot of time and patience. Also you make great videos, doing diy stuff the normal way without any flashing rgb leds and trash like that wich wastes your time power and money. You give schematics and explanations of them and I like to learn from you. The best thing is that you often make your own solutions without fancy chips like others, but rather transistors and op amps (like current limiting for example) and basically discrette components wich are or arent salvaged.
@a6c4
@a6c4 8 месяцев назад
In Poland we say "start from the ass side" but in this case ass site is front of lamp, where You start 😂 You should first disconnect the tube wires from the rear of lamp. Best regards from PL.😊
@mikeag
@mikeag 7 месяцев назад
It should be a law everywhere that bulbs have a power factor rating along with their wattage.
@janno288
@janno288 8 месяцев назад
I wonder if you could use blown fluorescent tubes (blown filaments) wind a few windings on the ends and use them as induction lights
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 8 месяцев назад
This wouldn't have any benefit over running such tubes using a higher voltage or bypassing the open filaments. In either case, the problem isn't just the open filament, but also the loss of emmisive layer.
@janno288
@janno288 8 месяцев назад
@@DiodeGoneWild Well that too, obviously. Running them at higher voltage would get some extra life for sure, but they wouldnt last long
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