This is excellent. This is this man’s system, it is his technique. I carried the exact same pack in 2003-2004 as a platoon leader. My outer pocket was my Steiner 8x40mm binoculars. I carried sustainment items such as food and water. Then I carried maintenance items such as a weapon cleaning kit. I carried some personal hygiene so my feet would survive. One extra pair of good socks and one extra good T-shirt. My comfort items were beanie, Field Jacket Liner, Snug Pak Softie 3 sleeping bag (tiny, like today’s “patrol bag”), and a poncho. I carried a map case with maps, protractors and map pens. I also carried a Lensatic compass, spare batteries, VS-17 signal panel. All the stuff in my main compartment I kept in a Old School waterproof bag. What I always carried was “leader gear,” maps, strobes, panels, binos, radio gear, pyro, compass, night vision, PL or PSG stuff. Most of my Joe’s carried extra ammo or food. Everyone had a “LeatherMan” or Multi-tool, and everyone was rocking a full sized knife and a tactical folder, or two. By the end of the tour we were sleeping in our MOPP suits because it was cold at night and that’s the only extra “warming” gear we had. Fun times. At this time we were also rocking super tiny, red filtered light and also decent sized non-filtered flashlights for searching (sized two CR123 batteries). We all carried extra CR123’s, AA’s and AAA batteries too. We did a lot of patrol preparations back then. Never carried an E Tool because “the enemy” couldn’t, or didn’t, drop effective fire on us. We never dug in, we just took positions, held them, and then moved out later. Thank you for your video, got me thinking, good to share.
Anyone who thinks patrolling is fun should go rucking with a 80-100lb pack, with body armor, ammo, equipment, weapon/s. All while remaining quite, alert, and praying to God that no one shoots at you, no one shells you, no one steps on a mine, and of course there is always the possibility of casualties........... Oh yeah, and everyone you encounter is a potential threat until they are not....... That part is super fun........
I'm guessing they've changed "patrolling". Used to be you traveled light and fast to conduct reconnaissance and gather intelligence. Now, it appears you pack everything but the kitchen sink with the intent to start a fire fight.
If you ever wanted to 'Plus up' this pack for a colder environment, I know from personal experience that the grey patrol sleeping bag can fit into a MACS Sack, and from there it would not be that hard to attach the folding ISO mat and a woodland Bivy to this pack.
A lot bigger than my fanny ALICE pack in the RSVN, 1966-67. (Tiny) I still carried between 60-85 pounds, without this kind of gear. (No plate, no vest.. BTW) My longest times in the field 46 and 56 days without a break. (ie What the hell is a "Patrol Base"? We moved almost every day and dug in every night, or out, two to six nights on LP or Ambush) 120+ Combat Assaults in 300 days in the field. My load included, e-tool, three quarts of water, bayonet, 480 rounds of 5.56 in 20 round mags in five ammo pouches-camera in the sixth), four frags, trip and parachute flares, 5-15 cans of C-rations (in old socks-tied off with old boot laces), M-16, tin pot, three hundred rounds of 5.56 in boxes in the pack, cigarettes, troxene heat tabs, spare socks, poncho, poncho liner, air mattress (if I could find one that didn't leak)... and two (or more) of the following... Claymore, M-72 LAW(S), and an 81mm motor round.... Hikin' 'n' Campin' ...
@@wendysbaconator1175 are they? And you would know how? If you think this country is going to be invaded you simply are dense. We will eat our own long before a country invades us. You will not be squaded up doing patrols.
First thing you'll learn about patrols, your comfort items go out the window. I've had missions where all i carried was ammo, water and an MRE or 2. I've also had missions where i hardly carried any extra combat equipment. I loved those missions. I had all kinds of comfort stuff. But end of the day patrols still suck. I'm just glad I don't have to do patrols in the mountains of Afghanistan anymore. To this day, I refuse to do hikes in the mountain's with friends or family. I'll only go for hunting.
My patrol pack is nearly identical list (I also use the TT tan 3 day pack). This was something we used for AOO in Ranger school and have since continued. I keep the cleaning kit on my warbelt, and do 6 magazines. I don’t use a battle board but I have something similar that achieves the same purpose. Special equipment obviously varies. This also mirrors a quick ‘bug out’ for non-standard patrolling or to have in a vehicle. Good video.
I can't thank you enough for these videos. For various reasons your information is valuable, but to a point you think very logically which is sorely lacking these days. I've made multiple changes to my kit to more realistically reflect reality in the field vs a 'camping trip'. Thank you for your input. Cheers to you.
Finally a real infantry patrol basic load out. I use a medium ALICE with two MOLE sustainment pouches on each side, and bungee cords. I run the same kit etc. A MOLLE hip belt can be mounted to the ALICE frame but I’m not in the military anymore. So my loadout will never be really heavy. I run a belt and suspenders. The Alice sits on my Saw pouches on the belt. A SAW pouch can hold a gortex top. Another can hold watch cap, gaiter, spare socks. Thermal top and bottom, or thin fleece top, and spare gloves. I safety pinned an SOL Mylar double sized heat sheet to my poncho liner ( which has a large opening for me to stick my head through so I can wear it with the poncho. I reinforced the Mylar with clear packaging tape where it is safety pinned and taped around the neck slit. The SOL is quiet, strong and inexpensive. It comes in orange or green. I like the woombie on the out side and the Mylar against my clothing to retain heat. If it rains you you can turn it inside out or flip the shiny side to green. I also carry a tan zip folding foam mattress. Spray painted it to match leaf liter. In the winter use the zip between you and the ground and an air matt in your tarp cowboy camping / ranger roll, or in your bivy. I enjoyed the vid and Subd
Good to see a realistic load rather than some BS fantasy kit for once. Also good points about the extra gear you get to add such as support weapons ammo (machine gun link, mortars, LAWs etc) and other gear such as radios, NVGs etc, and the fact that it's not fun walking around all day with all that kit on. We were carrying an average of a hundred pounds every day in Afghanistan.
As a commo guy/RTO who was down on the line with the Infantry, I can confirm that patrolling and movement to contact sucks ass. Having to carry two radios in my ruck or assault pack on top of one on my kit for running ATAK, along with all the spare batteries and other comm equipment adds up. Oh and all the essential stuff like food, water, ammo, and any other BS my commander doesn't want to carry lol.
As we always said, travel light and freeze at night! A little A to B with your team to get through. Oh, the memories. Legit necessities are woobie, log of dip, sunflower seeds and porn. Thanks for taking the time and putting this out. Great refresher for us old guys. So thankful I am not humping a prc with batteries, sat com, nods, ammo, water etc. no wonder my back is shot. Semper Fi
You should put time stamps. The issued on is great with the right set up, can be stowed or attached to your main pack, had a small waistline strap. A medium alice pack can do this job as well
I’ve torn the shoulder straps off of 3 different issued assault packs. Other then that, I agree they work well with the addition of some sustainment pouches.
I imagine that what you consider moderate travel and not fast is would leave the average person behind. It all makes sense, even the field ready MREs (don't remember exactly what you called it). I get the high calorie food, but it's the water availability that scares me. Even if you had a bladder in addition to the bottles shown, in an arid environment that doesn't seem enough. Thank you for sharing this from a grateful person you help keep safe. Wish you well.
This is actually one of the best videos I have seen about the shitty state of affairs called patrolling. If you are are comfy , then you are probably gonna be dead . Like it or not , travel light ,freeze at night but hopefully you go undetected and live to fight another day. Rah ! G. Speight
Isn’t it nice to no longer have to hump the two 200 rd 7.62 belts, the claymore, the three 60mm mortar rounds, the two plastic SAW drums, the two blocks of C-4, the Dagger, the extra radio battery, the two liter of water, 8 field stripped MRE’s, all with an AT-4 on top.
Perhaps to stop traveling light freeze at night you might add a couple of packages of hot hands. Light weight and flat at the bottom of the woobie dry bag. I have found them helpful when the cold front runs in on that extra day you were not going to be out. Even with the 30-40 degree shift from hot dessert day to night. Just an idea.
To be real though. For any sort of guerrilla warfare against a "red team", you're probably going to rely on physical messages via messengers or quick ham radio coded messages rather than utilizing a plethora of comms equipment. As far as explosives go, I would probably only envision a single ied device cooked up by bubba for the entire squad/platoon sized patrol for patrol base defense, or for use by the security element or breaching force during a raid. So the way I see it, unless you need a lot of warming layers and sleeping systems for extreme cold weather; probably the only things going in my pack is a few spare mags and just food and water. As for bringing a lot of extra ammo. Unless you're building caches or camps for long term use/storage. I feel that the idea of slugging it out with the enemy if found out LRRP style isn't really an option since you wont have any real support or backup. Making every op you go on a literal do or die "we either complete the mission or we get found out and surrounded". Because of that, I'd probably lean towards keeping the overall loadout light simply because I know that if you get caught out there and can't immediately run away and break contact, you're kind of F'd regardless. So might as well die a little bit more comfortably than anything else.
This is the most no nonsense thing I’ve read recently. Forget chest seals. You get a sucking chest wound without medical dust off you’re a dead man. That’s just reality. Humping you back to Maryann’s kitchen table where she can suture basic boo boo’s and maybe run an IV? You’re still a dead man
Guy's... pay attention to this! This is a light combat loadout. Make a few adjustments and this quickly becomes a get home loadout! If the world goes tits up most of us will have to walk home for one to two days. The more ''bare bones'' the contents of your pack the better off you'll be!
Can attest to the quality of Tactical Tailor. I humped the MALICE Pack up and down mountains during my time in the army and it's still held up years later. They make great stuff.
pretty much i have the same equipment. I just use a 40 lt pack for 48 hours without having too much bulk on the back. I put size up and it is much more comfortable. I have a smaller survival kit where i also have some pills The Goretex if you treat it right it doesnt loose its properties. i have used mine in very difficult terrains for 15 years without an issue. In small patrols many a time (especially in OPs) i have slept only with a jacket and not on sleeping bag or bivi bag. i always have an extra flashlight, and i have a case for my ballistic glasses.
Body armor introduces a lot of problems with that. It also depends on your specific body type, for me my rucksack waist belt sits right at my trouser belt level, so I can’t wear my “battle belt” and my waist belt at the same time without a-lot of discomfort
Just a thought, if you took some OD green duct tape you could fill up the MRE green pouches with the dirt from your defense position holes to give you a little more cover then just putting the dirt in front of you for protection in your prone firing position.
Great video series One suggestion/reguest It would be nice if you tried to include a "weight" segment to your gear break down I know that this is sort "too much down the trail" to ask, but it would be interesting for lots of people
One thing you don't carry here is a way to procure fresh water. I realize grunts usually have a water buffalo trailer following their training maneuvers. But most ppl don't, so instead of Nalgenes I carry at least one Seychelle water filter bottle or canteen, and for longer trips I carry a filtered tube to collect water from puddles or trickles of streams. Seychelle makes these for DoD contracts and they offer radiation filters for water; seems like a legit carry these days. Peace.
Nalgenes/canteens are best used for holding water to be treated and later emptied into a bladder. This eliminates sloshing, which can give you away. Ditto for soft-flasks like Hydrapaks. Really wish I figured that out sooner...
Need a monowalker to help carry all this stuff. Chest rig, soft body armor front and back, pocket carry items, hip battle belt, patrol pack, ruck pack, extra ammo, cigarettes. Bunch of stuff. Dont think i could manage. Thinning down gear is always the struggle
I don’t like patrolling but I like ambushing, I was that excited guy who is always spiked up on caffeine and ready to fuck shit up! But sometime it gets boring and tiring when nothing happens, I get pissed when this happens but this is why you go for a mile with heavy gear
It’s the TT enhanced 3 day, so larger than your standard 3 day assault packs like the Eagle AIII. Volume wise I think it’s comparable to a medium ALICE iirc. Much larger than the molle 2
As someone who has deployed multiple times as an 0311 and seven years and an 0321 man, in very non permissive environments, I never understood why former grunts complain so much to civilians how much things “sucked”. You’re supposed to be a stud, a warrior, act and walk as such.
@@TheGruntPerspective no worries brother. I might have just got caught up in my feelings. I steer clear of online so jumping back on you tube years later and seeing all these “grunts” with channels complaining about their past jobs kinda gets to me. Keep doing your thing bro, you can’t please everybody. I’m just a retired recon man riding the couch for a few days. 👍
Can you recommend some good rucksack bags. Not assault backpacks more the bag that you'll be using to survive in the wild. This will be for a survival in shtf situations and I'm in the woods for days at a time.
You mentioned in one of your videos " 7 sand bag method " - is that a specific type of shelter, fighting position could you demonstrate or explain. - or is it just an Infantry s.o.p. You are the only one that has mentioned it in any video. Cheers
@@TheGruntPerspective once you said that patrolling isn’t as sexy as people think, and you said it sucks…yeah it fucking does suck lol. If you’re in Oceanside let’s link up man.
FTL: Oh that’s your ruck huh? Got that Ruck stuffed pretty full of “you” type items huh? Pretty pleased with yourself I see. Ok well that’s great, but here’s the PRC-119 radio and two spare batteries and x2 7.62 linked ammo cans for the M240Bravo and an AT4… oh and you need NVG’s.
@@TheGruntPerspective I remember doing a mission in Iraq. I was a Chief Scout of our platoon in a Marine LAV BN. In coordination with two of our platoons vehicles which would be supporting us by radio (and potentially with the main 25 mm cannon once positioned) but hidden in a location that was several kilometers from the highway (really flat featureless section of desert in western Iraq with a hard rock crust that you could not dig into). I also think we had our Companies 81 mm mortar tubes and mortar men on standby supporting us because I remember they would shoot illumination rounds for us on a few occasions. Interestingly it was almost exactly where the British SAS patrol BravoTwoZero was compromised in the first gulf war. It’s a pretty famous story/incident. They wrote a book (which I read on an LSD heading to invade Iraq in 2003 coincidently) and made that patrol into a movie. Exact same location in Iraq. Anyway… Four Marines were going to be put into a hole/rock cave sort of terrain feature about 600 meters from a known IED emplacement (overpass) location on the highway. It was the only concealable location we found after scouting the location with the vehicles the day prior. We were going to drive the vehicles to the hide site where they would establish a radio watch and camo the vehicles. The scouts were going to move to the hole in darkness and stay in the hole camouflaged for 72 hours. The team is taking x2 m240 (from the Pintel mounts of the two vehicles supporting), a prc-119 radio, a pile of batteries, an entire 20 liter water jug, a substantial section of camouflage netting/stakes and Etool, smoke grenades, claymore mines, thermal sight (serialized), binos(serialized) , compass (serialized gear), you get the point. Lol. Our “rucks” for the movement to and from our hunter killer hide site essentially were stripped ALICE frames and shelfs with a 20 liter water jug strapped onto it and camo netting or tarp or boxes of 7.62 linked ammunition or the PRC radio, etc. My point with the rambling story (besides being interesting) is to reinforce what you said. What you end up carrying is never what your mind envisions or you would prefer. You carry what is needed to kill the enemy. It’s always soul crushingly heavy and it seldom accommodates items that would make your existence less miserable. 👍🏻
Crossfiremakes a frame that is the only ruck I can wear with a carrier. I highly highly highly recommend you look into a crossfire DG-3. That pack load has got to be miserable man
The tactical tailor malice frame works great with a carrier that’s not the problem, the problem is you can’t wear a battle belt and a ruck belt at the same time. So I either stow my belt on my main pack or wear my belt and use a pack like this.
@@TheGruntPerspective I’ll be making a few videos on it here soon and I’ll comment on this video when I have the video up. If it works out it would definitely make your life a lot easier
If you wear a patrol pack and a plate carrier, what do you do with your tactical hydration pack? Do you leave it behind before the patrol, or do you simply remove the camel-back from it, but keep the empty hydration carrier attached to a plate carrier and place the camel-back in your patrol pack?
@@TheGruntPerspective I like how versatile it is, you can use as a daypack, or load it up to go for some days, or longer even. Hey, maybe that's a new video idea!😄😄 Again, thank you for your content!
hey man, im just a civilian but you popped up in my feed and I thought Id see what I could learn about how much extraneous shit I carry around with me. You're rolling only with clothing, poncho and liner for shelter/cover cause you have so many other mission essentials like equipment. The discomfort of sleeping on a hard surface with no mat aside, is the temperature loss through conduction to the ground really severe or does the poncho liner do an OK job at that considering it's synthetic?
It’s obviously very dependent on the environment, if it gets to cold for this loadout then I’d have to plus up with an iso mat and a sleeping bag most likely
@@TheGruntPerspective I just wondered whether it does anything at all as far as conduction, they seem so thin. Roughly what temp range does the poncho liner stop you from losing heat through the ground with no pad if you're on dirt without using duff or leaves to insulate? 50 or something?
I have a large ruck, but I’m trying to find something medium sized I can use for 2-3 day missions as a civilian (I.e. no radios or supporting equipment) in conjunction with a chest rig. Have any suggestions?
@@TheGruntPerspective k thanks, not related but do you know if any way to join the marines if i dont have a green card? i already called multiple recuriters and they said you need a green card so i already know the answer but im trying anyway
Red Lense Light? Special Mission equipment? Extra Batteries for your kit? The E-Tool should go outside your pack to make room inside for more shit. Hopefully that stuff can fit on your kit. In Afghanistan, 3-4 day patrols was a weekly occurrence. I can tell you from experience that waterproof material is Mission Critical. You're right, old school gortex didn't cut it.
Red lense: in my kit Batteries: in my kit Special mission stuff is not pictured because this is just meant so show a base load to add to No where to put the e tool outside of the pack Thanks for watching!
That’s how you honestly and realistically load a 3 day pack. I always laugh at these you tube ninjas 🥷🏽 when they talk about having a 17lbs 3 day assault packs. 😂😂😂
