INFANTRYMAN'S GUIDE: BASIC THERMAL MITIGATION 

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As a tanker, constant scanning in the defense is no less necessary when using thermal sights. Like you show with the vegetation, people will disappear in the brush. Infantry can get a lot closer than a lazy tanker would think just by using bushes and crawling through tall grass and tiny ruts in the ground.

For anyone who hasn't seen, there's open source reporting that both sides in Ukraine are receiving clothing and or ponchos with thermal reduction linings. This stuff's out there, and it's just gonna keep getting better and more widely proliferated.

Some of the information leaked about the 2014 incident here in PA that resulted in a 48 day manhunt has been pretty interesting as to how the perp evaded law enforcement helicopters equipped with FLIR.

be careful when you use the mylar in conjunction with other materials. It stops radiant heat transfer but not conductive heat transfer, so it's great in a hide site to keep your radiant body heat from slowly heating up your barrier materials, but if it directly touches those barrier materials it can actually heat them faster in some cases.

On point brother! The key is definitely spatial offset to prevent the heat transfer, nailed it. 👊

Best defense against a thermal sensor will always be smart use of dead space. In my testing(videos on my channel) i've found that a woobie poncho provides the best wearable signature mitigation that isn't overly encumbering because the material doesn't cling to the body (maintaining some level of offset) and is insulating. There will be hot-spots near the shoulders, where the weight of the garment presses it down onto your body, but you can cut a piece of reflectix insulation to wear over your shoulders and around your neck to prevent this. I usually throw my USGI poncho ontop of the woobie since it's better at matching the ambient temperature.

Outstanding presentation as always. You did a fantastic job of research. This was never taught ever in my time as an infantryman in my career. This should be taught at both the Army and Marine infantry schools as a basic cirriculum for setting observation posts and fighting positions.

certain weather condition, when humid or in fog/mist can also make thermal scopes next to useless, conversely in cold crisps conditions it works better than normal,

Great video man. I agree natural vegetation and overhead cover is the best option

Was waiting for this sort of video for a long time. Very informative and wholesome. Thank You.

A rectangular piece of perspex to fit inside your pack. Maybe shoulder width wide. You can use it as a viewing port in a concealed LP/OP from the prone position. Gives you a clear view but blocks your thermal signature. Throw some overhead cover up and you're good.

Totally helpful in understanding the differences in camo cover for thermal mitigation. Thank you for putting that info together.

Thanks for vital information about how to mitigate thermal energy signature.

North Mountain Gear NMG version, 3D camo works great. Its a mesh base, which breaths, 3d leaves act as temperature diffusers, plus you can sit down and someone will step on you before they see you. I bought mine to fit over winter clothes, but it turned out to be super effective by layering the mesh and 3d leaves. ATN gen 4 scope didnt find me until I pulled my hood back.

i was surprised to see your username when i sold the ULCANS on ebay a while back!

Yeah thermal and night optical devices has advance a lot. Definitely a good video. Thanks for sharing

Thank you for creating this video.

Thermal signature is about ambient temps and achieving that with clothing. Contrasting temps at the extremes end of either spectrum are far more difficult and in those cases breaking up the signature will be the most you can hope for while still being mobile.

The mesh material is called hessian, it's what British mailbags used to be made from.

Great video! This is something I've been curious about for a while having watched a lot of footage out of Ukraine.

H O O A H - Well done as always Brent - drive on hero !

Good solid info as always!

Definitely some smart ideas. I have a cheap thermal and it's useful but it's not x-ray vision.

fascinating problem set of the modern battlefield

Interesting and informative, as always! 👍

Amazing video! Thank you

I have used the beez combat systems spectraflage thermal blanket with great results!!

Outstanding!

Interesting stuff. I like the videos where you explain and show gear, rather than just hiding in it. (that is still interesting though) Regards JB. UK/South Coast. 👌

Very informative as always. Thank you

Great info, thanks

Look at Russian Ratnik shelter. Good piece of kit.

Nice intro! A poncho was my first thought; how well would a poncho worn as a cloak help to break up a man's shape while walking? As you point out, invisibility is pretty much impossible in the field, but anything that makes the wearer less noticeable is a help.

Love your thoughts on the new holosun RD/thermal sight

Thankyou, excellent video!

Good video but one item I don't hear anyone talking about that would work good against thermal is glass or any clear plastic. Thermal cannot see through it at all. Not something you would probably carry on you but would be good to use for a LP/OP setup. I got several 13"x18" clear pvc table top covers for $12 off Amazon. Its very flexible, easy to form to any shape, waterproof, probably more durable than a tarp b/c they are usually thicker and you can see through it. Probably would need to use other cover like camo nets or natural vegetation in front it so you're not see by the naked eye. Maybe even spray a little camo paint on it to reduce light reflection.

I have thermal and night-vision optics and I also have Anti-IR (IR resistant) clothing. The stuff wasn't cheap, but it's a must on the modern battlefield with drones and all the other garbage a guy has to watch out for these days.....

In my experience I have found that you do not necessarily need to completely conceal your thermal signature so long as you have a good understanding of what the rest of your environment looks like in IR. In nature there are hot spots everywhere, and if you can break up the human outline enough such that you don't appear human or large enough to be human, this can be sufficient to fool the human observer using that technology to try to detect you. Unfortunately this means you need first-hand experience in knowing what your environment looks like at different times of the day under IR in order to effectively blend in. It is worth mentioning that one of mother nature's hot spots once fooled me into believing a man was in the prone observing the edge of a clearing right until I got close enough to step on him - only to find roots and dirt.

Thanks for the hard work making this video, you crayon eater! LOL!!!!! Great material!

Excellent video

Good show. Ya heard of agent orange ... the defoliant? Should peepses become an issue and be difficult to subdue due to natural vegetation, guess what. Another issue, take a gander at google map and you'll notice that throughout much of the us, where once natural forest provided a habitat for creatures no longer exist but instead land stripped of such to provide for gmo crops for the manufacture of ... crap.

Best thing to do (obviously) is get thermals if you can, find someone who has them, or get everyone in your group (you should have a group) to chip in. Make a list of everything and everyway you can think of to test what works and what doesn’t. Bottom line, that's the only way to do it. That's the only way to be confident. We all know how powerful thermals can be but, until you get out there and hands on you're at a disadvantage.

@brent0331, what brand was that last Cammie net at 9:00min?

Thank you😺

SOL Survive Outdoors Longer Mylar sheet is quiet and tear resistant and inexpensive, I safety pin mine to a poncho liner

Could you do a video on water insertion

Stay frosty, brothers

Boom

great information

In Infantry AIT in 1982, we were told to NEVER iron our BDU’s because they were impregnated with chemicals that help to reduce our thermal signature. Anyone else hear that? Subbed

Could you do a post about the effectiveness of a usgi individual camo veil, for thermal?

Perspex man it's awesome. No heat sig

@brent0331, when are you going to test the new IANPAT?

Good stuff Brent! Btw, what is the rigg your using? Ty...

@6:15 I heard the crow counting; did you know they talk in digital?

great info!

Hell, I've got a thermal overlay for my PVS14 in this day and age

Good stuff buddy!

They IR/heat blocking spray paint but the companies that make it do not sell to civilians.

Take two woobies sow them togetjer with 2 space blankets in between then net and gillie use veg wen u got full kit and pack it keep off ur body and allows air between u and the inner liner can be used for over head cover as well just rig like a poncho over a fox hole works great give it a try

Good stuff amigo.

Cant wait for the drone video to come out!

Where did you get the woodland uniform ? Or did you have it made?

ALSO, is there any information coming about covering the face? In your comparisons, your face stood out like a spotlight! I actually wonder if the old mosquito head nets would help.

Semper Fi... Good stuff. I wish you would have brought a newer color thermal in. We use those here in Texas for the brush hog hunts. Dense brush covers thermal signatures in white/black hot but add color and you get the FULL THERMAL spectrum and that will show you the details white/black hot don't. Radiant heat is shown FAR BETTER than B/W thermals. Keep up the good stuff. Semper Fi 0351 Wpns 1/1

Thoughts on scrim tied to/wrapped on the sleeves and pants?

Love the huge round guy waddling around. Must be a para militia😂

Awesome, thnx

What was the smaller weapon mounted thermal in the begining half of the video?

If past military thermals and night vision is available to civilians now so what does the Military have access to now?

At the end of the day it’s about stand off added to breaking up the shape of the blocking material

Is that this guy make a video bout training for army? Bout 3-5 strength type of trainings

I saw a channel where a guy got some black concreting plastic como spray paited it up and was totally invisible

Being a civilian-owner of both thermal and IR NVG, I can attest that there is no ideal solution readily available to conceal us from both methods of observation, simultaneously - at least, not while on the move (without over-heating the individual). A prepared position is another matter, however. Natural materials combined with things like "radiant barrier thermal insulation" (not space blankets) will work to a great degree, but only for aerial observation of a prepared position and you've still got to consider how you will observe your sector of responsibility from within your position without being observed from the ground. It's a tough nut to crack. Even one's breath and built-up body temps in a confined space can give you away. Yeah. It's a motherfucker! Cover yourself with camo-covered anti-thermal and, under IR, you'll look like a walking shrub, right? Without the camo cover, you'll reflect and look like a neon light! Neither is ideal, I wouldn't think.

Thk u

Great timing like always!! Semper Fi

Major majorum ❤

How many wars have you found playboy! Wjere you marsoc

Thermal blankets will no shit hide your heat signature

Thermal availability has changed the game . That and drones warfare will never be the same

Yeah, I've watched intently the goings on in Ukraine. The Russians investment in thermal tech is pretty crazy. We've seen with hog hunters here in the states it being used to great effect. The fact that thermal units are becoming less expensive means it's going to become prolific. If it hasn't yet already. There's a former Army SGM SOF guy on Primary and Secondary, Chuck Pressburg that has talked about not wanting to give up the battle space of IR illumination and lasers. But what I'm seeing in Ukraine it's 100% passive. Analog NV isn't going away. But I think the day of illuminating a target with IR flood and lasers is. I'm sure if you are dominating the battle space then it doesn't matter. But in a near peer situation. No bueno. Biggest thing I'm seeing in Ukraine however that's annoying AF! Is the lack of slings being used. On both sides. Complacency is another. Most assaults are in the daytime and dudes are not wearing their gear. Another thing that is astounding me is the Russians ability to produce weapons of war. The Ukrainians with drones and ATGM's like the Javelin have destroyed 2,400 armored vehicles. Now they are saying the Russians are refurbishing older T72's, T80's and T90's. While producing 100 new tanks a month. And have the capacity if need be to produce 250 a month. 😮 The US can only produce 20k of 155mm a month. Russia can produce +200k. Of 152mm and 122mm. The US can only produce 14k of MLRS rockets a year. Russia can produce 30k a month. I've also read where it behooves you to be a volunteer in the Russian Army. If you are conscripted you get minimal training. And get sent out the door to Ukraine. If you volunteer the pipeline and training takes months. B team and A team. It's mostly B team fighting in Ukraine. A team is getting ready for NATO. Russia is said to be averaging 30k a month into the Army. 16k are volunteers. And it is said the Army has had a goal end strength of 1.3 million. But with NATO looming. Have bumped it up to 2.2 million. Having 7 300k autonomous Army groups. There's a book circulating that was written by Soldiers and PMC Wagner for new troops that's been circulating on how to get along in Ukraine. Food for thought SGT Major.

Awesome!

Nighttime is for sleeping. Find caves or sleep underground.

You in Texas? We need to talk. 2/75th Ranger

If the big game can beat FLIR, you can too.

Good stuff as always. Thank you

You’re the man!

Very interesting!

So basically throw some camo and netting over your position so you don’t get clapped

What is the name of the modern camp netting?

Umbrellas gentlemen, umbrellas.

Is the camo net SAAB barracuda??

Why not just upgrade to the mk1 gen 2 mod 0 eyeball? It's bionic! Just blink to activate. S. Austin.....

Ty Brent

Good stuff.

Jokes on you. I’m dead inside anyway so I doubt I’ll give off any thermal footprint. Similar to a zombie or a vampire 😂

Much needed nice Yut!

For the survival blanket, does painting it with something like rustoleom camo spray paint mess it up?

I can’t find that cammo netting mesh can some one tell me we’re to find it thanks