INFOHAZARDS: Things No One Should Know 

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Gang gang

Someone enjoyed the last Sam Harris podcast.

why is a part of your hair whited out in the video?

Education you sould be able to do at least 5 different types of IED at home... Like... Im not gonna give instructions but... 1)incendiary bottle(learnt in european history) 2)toxic gas from cleaning products(chemestry class) 3)deodorant based boom rocket(physics) 4)cooking implements based blinding granade(biology class) 5) phosphorus incendiary device(chemistry again) But maybe my education was weird

I mean, i dint know how they did it... But with highschool level

Any chemist worth their salt would know how to make a bomb from household items. It's actually rather scary what is possible.

Dry ice with a little water in a closed glass bottle. Pressure will cause the bottle to burst. Somehow remotely set up away to Boil oil in a closed room. A single spark with all the vapor in the air, and the room goes boom.

@@Johncornwell103 inwas trying to not givendetails for a reason

Certain cleaners? It’s just medium to strong acids. You can do it with vinegar and bleach or even lemon juice and bleach. But it is most potent if you use rust removers, metal cleaners, hard water removers, tarnish removers, toilet bowl cleaners or hydrogen peroxide.

@@nathanatoragaming8075 I mean ammonia is a base so its not *just* acids, but i get what you mean Rule of thumb: never mix cleaners

see I didn't know this, as a highschool junior and accidently made chloroform once. I was immediatly horrified and flushed the mixture down the drain. then I learned that it gives off fumes that have the chance of ignited and exploding the pipes and my house. I slept that night knowing there was a chance I wasn't going to wake up. anyway don't mix cleaners.

Years ago I was a teacher of first aid, lifesaving, water rescue, etc. We had to be a bit careful what we taught people, and after teaching them what to do in any given situation emphasize the concept of if you can't do that and don't know what to do, do nothing. The reason for this is if we said, "Whatever you do, don't do this..." we'd be pretty much teaching people how to kill people. Fun times.

@@nathanatoragaming8075 I never knew "hard water removers" was a thing, I piss about with hard water all the time with a certain project and could probably do with some of that to stop build up in my plumbing Thanks

+ they had to patch the game since pet parrots were originally tamed with cookies, in real life that's obviously unsafe and i guess at least one kid tried it

@@depthsparade Not only did they patch it, they made it in-game that cookies are actively poisonous to parrots and kill them after a few seconds I believe!

​@@ons1m598instantly. If you give a parrot a cookie, it will instantly die with the green potion particles of poison. It's quite shocking, honestly, even when you are expecting it.

Keeping axolotls as pets most likely helps their conservation. They're so badly endangered- indigenous to two lakes in Mexico, one of which no longer exists, and very rare even within what remains of their habitat- that sanctuaries and captive breeding projects are essentially keeping the species on life support. Breeding them as pets most likely has negative effects on their genetics, unfortunately- the white version most commonly seen in captivity is the rarest in the wild, for example- but at least they're around. I personally see more axolotls existing at all as a good thing. Plus, due to them currently existing primarily in captivity, anyone buying or breeding them will get it from an existing captive bloodline instead of hunting through Lake Xochimilco for a wild one. So if Minecraft makes more people want pet axolotls, that's fine from a conservation standpoint. From a petkeeping perspective, however, they're not easy to raise. Do your research, know what you're getting into, know what equipment and conditions it requires. The other half of the awareness infohazard is that plenty of people don't know what they're doing; I've heard blue tangs are a *lot* harder to keep than most kids who want a Dory are ready for, for example

most pet strains have other types of salamander. they aren't pure axolotl @@brendanhall5581

You are definitely on a list. The things we writers google...

“False alarm, it’s another writer.”

Imagine if you're one of those chemist RU-vidrs like... NileRed and Explosions&Fire

@@crowdemon_archives I imagine they're on a list of people who should not be put on a watch list, because people like that typically look things up to _avoid_ creating explosives or poisonous gas.

Usually in these types of situations writers will put intentionally false information to avoid replication. Almost all chemistry-related scenes in Breaking Bad, such as the meth recipe or the gas that killed Emilio, were intentionally inaccurate to avoid this.

There are things less harmful that will get you on a list. Because anyone given power to watch for the spread of knowledge will misuse it for an agenda.

Some are there by just simply existing. Look up TI's (Targeted Individuals).

Why would you want to do that?

@@IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT it would be funny

Just go to your public library.

Lasers in general, im not sure why nobody has weaponized it as a blinding weapon. Its definitely been listed as an inhumane weapon along with phosphorus bombs, poison bullets, chemical weapons in general.

@@elmidas8302 protesters in china use lazers to blind police

@@elmidas8302 it’s against Geneva convention I’m pretty sure. Plus why blind someone when you can just kill them with a drone?

A lot of unfair things in this world, just how unfair will evolution become though.

There are many ways to blind someone "invisibly", but I think that knowing IR can do that is information that must be out there. This is because cheap visible laser pointers can sometimes appear to not work while actually emitting a blinding IR wavelength, and knowing about that danger is way more important.

I was talking to this lesbian girl about sons of anarchy because we both liked bikers and she accidentally spoiled one of the main characters death to me she didnt say how just that he got shot and who and i was upset but i was able to get her back because later i got gta 5 on the 360 and was playing through the story and got to johnnys death and accidental spoiled it for her 😂

@@TheRealRusDaddy Why did you have to mention she's a lesbian lmao 💀

One of my friends favourite things to do is give fake spoilers for things. Or he’ll talk about his favourite character in a show he has never seen. It is infuriating haha

@@MrSqurkthat’s awesome 😂

Me hearing a spoiler 🧍 💥

Exactly, it's the disaster in the movie, multiplied.

@@benjamindover6408 It requires a _very_ specialized type of high velocity centrifuge to separate the isotopes.

Thanks ​@@benjamindover6408, with the knowledge you’ve given me I will now create my own backyard nuclear weapon. See you in the fallout universe

@@benjamindover6408 Nah, not a chance. - Buying yellowcake or similar will absolutely get you a visit from the authorities - just ask Cody. - Chemical refining is do-able, but separating the isotopes is /very/ difficult, and you only get a tiny amount of U-235 - There is a hard minimum on how much U-235 you need in order to cause a runaway chain reaction, and you'd need a substantial industrial operation to produce that quantity. - Making a practical nuclear bomb is a difficult problem in itself, even once you've got the fissionable material and all the theoretical knowledge. There's a reason why no one's ever actually done it, even though the information has been out there for ages now. Making a nuclear weapon is extremely difficult and expensive.

Just a quick shout out to the boy (literally a teenager) who build a minituar nuclear reactor in a garden shed. Yes it was working and yes it was radioactive and did harm. While it was not enough material to reach the critical mass, radioactive pollution still happend

well, you can get americium from smoke detectors

U just killed my friend lol

Why you do these things Mitchell???

Kinda makes me think of the bicycle chain and powerline combo

Duly Noted

@@tempusmars6272 Please do not

yep. take for instance take confetti cannons. innocuous right? they shoot shiny Mylar film high into the air down on parades. they could also be used in a concerted fashion by bad actors, say neo nazis, to take down the entire use power grid for months by shooting them over substations and high tension lines in a timed attack. they are super cheap on amazon. us military used something similar in operation desert storm and it took down iraqs power grid for years. they cost like ten bucks. you can also get your hands on highly radioactive crap by just looking for negative ion health products from china. thank god that one was shut down by the atomic regulators because a youtuber made a video before they noticed large amounts of thorium waste getting shipped to the us as health products.

A good example of 'security through obscurity' being used nefariously and failing is those Pentalobe screws that Apple introduced, initially to lock out customers from opening (and repairing) devices on their own. It provides no advantages over a regular torx drive, and the only disadvantage left nowadays is the mild annoyance of needing another screwdriver bit.

It’s like when the US army disguised spotted experimental air craft by assigning a CIA agent to “leak” information about aliens back in the mid 20th century. They obscured the truth by fabricating something that cloaked the real situation

The counter would be relaesing the info on how to create the vaccine for such things like diseases i suppose

counterpoint: there's that effect whose name I forget, where making something merely inconvenient to access prevents the majority of potential bad actors from bothering. In fact, having it *only* being inconvenient and not exceptionally difficult to access, deflects both low and high effort bad actors (who aren't interested because it's not a challenge) while enticing bad actors just competent enough to care but not competent enough to cover the tracks. By creating a middling, easily bypassed wall, you effectively create the perfect filter.

I'm proud of your strength

Ricin?

​​@@HypercopeEmia could have been Datura/Jimson Weed too

Good to know you managed to upheld the self control needed not to end your life I guess.

Datura?

Lmfao

Been trying to send them Project Aurora blueprints for years, they keep saying it wasn't real

In ww2 the Japanese launched torpedos at our subs that didn’t go nearly deep enough to hit our subs. For months we didn’t have any casualties in our submarines. During a briefing when this was being explained, a newspaper reporter heard this and put it into his newspaper. Shortly after, Japan started launching torpedos at the appropriate depth to hit our subs.

This is no longer an uncommon occurrence lmao

Idk about you, but I'd rather games be more fun and wars be less effective

You know info hazards are real right? Same with memetic agents, well in the sense that flashing images and sounds can cause certain thoughts and reactions inside of the brain, sometimes assisted through chemical induction.

@@joshhitxoriginal9367 You realize that 90% of people who engage in SCP are in some way either partially aware of or perfectly accepting of this information, right? Just because its made up doesn't mean we don't read it for truth. We're well aware of what we still don't know. Painfully so.

@@jeffbrownstain aight I was asking a genuine question, not trying to act condensending, whats your beef?

@@joshhitxoriginal9367 you literally wrote an incredibly condescending comment in the first place. Just stop.

@@NoConsequenc3 shut up

Fuck slippery slops

​@@JLB00333I do not think they are saying they are explicitly scared of people copying smallpox, and only smallpox. Just bioterrorism in general.

That hits home for me too. Used to be active duty US Army. The Department of Defense mandates that pretty much all personnel in all active duty units be vaccinated for smallpox, with few exceptions and none I can recall. The briefing about it stated that actual smallpox, unlike the vaccinia pox virus in the vaccine, was only known to exist in two places: a CDC lab in the US, and a lab run by Russia's equivalent agency, both of which ostensibly for study. The fear behind our vaccine was that Russia could be covertly weaponizing their samples. I'm not in my sixties recalling a Cold War scare. This was four years ago, and I think I would have heard if the DoD stopped vaccinating since then.

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I went to the comments before playing the video, I should probably click off by now.

this. his attitude on it bothered me

I agree, that is certainly a reasonable outcome in that context. However, in regards to a 'how to make a pandemic 101', we've seen that even when you present people with all the information on what to do, there are hordes who will aggressively do the opposite. How would you counter a pandemic that was far deadlier than Covid simply by also having access to it's genome?

@@jeff3221 People don't care about it because it's not deadly enough and if it was, it wouldn't be able to spread so much. Only some hidden long-lasting side effects might be really dangerous. Same thing could be said about bioweapons or just new technology.

Silver zentai suit. That will get you past the lasers.

@@BattleSpew that's what the mines and turrets are for

Don't forget about the steel bull whips..... also how will we find out where his facility is, or get to it? It may not even be on earth.

We must know the way of croc English, no matter the stakes...

Just bring a mirror

You likely don’t have to, but it’ll take a bit more time to get for free. If you email the author of the paper, there’s a good chance they’ll send it to you.

And yet we haven’t had a Spanish flu outbreak

You could probably also find it on sci-hub.

Many colleges also have interlibrary loan to request the article you are missing. That way also they learn about collection gaps.

pretty sure a decent science U would have access to many publishers' DB from the campus' intranet And when that doesnt work, Sci-hub

I'd like to read more about that. Could you link it here?

It is not some crazy hidden technology, drug research facilies use it all the time. Look up AlphaFold for example

P4 labs? cause we had one in Wuhan.... not even joking. that's what brought in covid 19... that and lax security and safety for sla... I mean employees. [also I am glad we don't have some mad lad making Cordyceps, Rabbies, or Necrosis into an actual bio-weapon... though on the last part there seems to be a "zombie-drug" causing peoples skin to flake off similar to zombies. glad they ain't feral though! Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!

@@dokidelta1175 It's a techniqe called molecular modeling, where computer simulations, and, increasingly, A.I. are used to find possible molecules for a set target inside the body. This is now a well established tool in pharmaceutical research, however it could easily be used to find molecules which may trigger the adverse effect. The programs basically look at a pharmaceutical target and analyze its shape, and then see which functional groups (parts of a molecule) should be arranged in a way to fit this exact shape and bind to the target, or to stop a natural binding molecule from interacting with this receptor, e.g. by altering the receptor's shape or polarity. From past knowledge in chemical syntheses, the software may then disregard molecules which would be impossible or too difficult to synthesize in a lab, as well as those which wouldn't be stable under the target conditions and would disintegrate into different or smaller compounds.

@@frtzkng oh. That's kinda terrifying

Paradoxically in this type of infohazard, the more people finds out, the less dangerous it becomes.

​@@Omega0202The Clintons would disagree with you there

you clearly haven't found the irl infohazard that turns your liver into a beehive

not the bees! in my liver? that sounds.. unpleasant

If you want a more SCP like real info hazard I suggest you look up Roko's Basilisk. I believe Kyle Hill even has a video on it.

No, those exist too. There are frequencies of sound that, after exposure continue to play subconsciously and eventually cause you to go crazy. Prolonged forced sleep deprivation. Pulsing lights that cause you to trip out like DMT. And of course the opposite-- lack of input torture. 45 minutes or so of absolute silence typically wrecks people. Being forced to stare at a blank white canvas or wall for a couple days. That type of thing. It's just that the really interesting ones either kill you outright or kill your brain enough that they functionally amnestitise you, so you'll rarely hear about them.

Amogus

That would have been a hilarious running gag!

As someone who thought the [REDACTED] running gag got old/redundant after the third one, as its point was already made, this definitely would've made me enjoy it a whole bunch

@@idalwave almost like a bunch of bananas

They did end with banana peel, but that was redacted for most of them.

It was a real missed opportunity for sure

Then there are also company secrets and proprietary information that companies require you to keep to yourself, even on a need to know basis within the company. These are reasons to plead the Fifth Amendment because you woulds definitely be incriminated if you were need to know. If the company secrets were part of an investigation, even if you weren't directly involved or the evidence didn't affect you, you could be charged for conspiracy or other responsibility for criminal actions because of your association. So if you were to be indicted for involvement with a crime, make the prosecutor build a case against you. Don't help them convict you wrongfully.

And it's partner in crime, the Water Bottle.

And Ed Sheeran.

GOT where the anti show. Just kill every character.

If I was George R R Martin I would dedicate an entire book on how the world of westeros got to enjoy coffee and had dedicated shops that elite people enjoyed purchasing their drinks at.

@@kingvinoda3896 Include an overly detailed explanation that the only way to tell if the beans are ripe is to follow the males of a specific species of magical deer that only come out on moonless nights to feast on the beans, hence the name "Star Bucks". Or craft an elaborate legend about celestial deer who existed as pure energy and blessed the coffee beans with their essence and that's where the name comes from - bucks from the stars, or Starbucks.

yep, i never thought about it until now, you can give some one a seizer and show flashing images, then they will have an epileptic moment which that is very scary, or program the brain naturally or what ever to respond to an image like fear

There's a lot of quotes on the subject, but I think of it like this. Intelligence is the most powerful, and dangerous, thing in the universe, given time. Forget electrical generators, the last time the world saw a better intelligence generator show up, an ape started teaching it's kids and kicked off the Anthropocene Extinction. At it's most basic, intelligence is just the manipulation and processing of information, which makes information the most potentially powerful, and therefore dangerous, resource in existence.

Epiphanies are the permanent changing of your thought patterns

This.

@@koontz1154 I like your pfp, what is it

Nothing threatens your life or causes you to break the law by knowing about it.

That's why you're incredibly careful exposing just how much you truly know, especially to three letter agencies.

@@djsvrlaivwfofjnot threatens your life but it is illegal to know or share knowledge on some things

Thats why you never post what you truly want to post on the internet lol. Dog whistles exist for a reason

@@djsvrlaivwfofj There's probably plenty of military secrets that might cause this

They’ll have really awesome answers

tell us

@@salamander6014 we need an update

I want to know what elderly people think we shouldn't know!

​@@ragdollrose2687that's the point, you will never know

And no one, save maybe the photographer, actually knew it was her house.

And 2 were from the lawyers. Lol.

It's the same contradiction in the "right to be forgotten". It got popular with a man in Spain that wanted search engines to remove the indexing to an article about the fact that he had debts at the end of the 90's. Now, he and this fact that he wanted "forgotten" will always be "remembered" as the most important legal precedent on the subject.

This effect had been known to me since I was 6ish years old(i was born '90). It's surprising that it is now known as " effect"

Just replying to say that you are very cool

Same

I didn't even notice it wasn't a blank screen.

I am an idiot and can't read, so after I read your comment I was like "wait, they work with gnomes??""

@@lj9392 haha to funny

"companies" you naive fool. Companies sell anything to anyone, and are not responsible for what they do with it, rightfully so. They would absolutely love it if meth makers switched to their brand. The people keeping that in check are governments.

Have you read 1984?

@@WeaponizedGoochsweat no but i get the premisr

@@leonardonetagamer you'd be surprised how much your comment relates to it. You should read it.

I think it was a white feather. 🤔

I choose to believe that was intentional.

@@BoMwarriorVlog No it was the white lighting he uses for some of these keyed shots.

WoOoOoOo~

exactly what I was thinking too!

Rods from the Gods.

Pbask?

scp reference??

@@tijesunimiewedemi9283 gi joe reference

They where pretty cringe

Reminds me how people knew how to make compelling deep fakes and montages but didn't have the means to do It or the softwares costed arms and legs, turns out a decade later you'd be able to ask a robot to help you make it in a day max and now It's widespread

I've defeated it.

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Just post the vulgar stuff you've been doing until it ensures it is never created or the annihilation of the person who made ME aware of the basilisk.

And then the moderator who banned it was accussed of creating the idea (even though he didn't), accussed of intentionally trying to invoke the Streisand Effect (he wasn't) and accussed of trying to financially profit from it. I hate humans sometimes...

the moderator removed it because it was stupid

So. Many. Lasers......

Strapped on the heads of sharks? No?

I loved that so much!!! 👏Because👏of👏the👏lasers!👏

Luckily the weapon stuff is allready all over google, see pew pew ctrl and deterrence dispensed. As for germ DNA, the risks of that is fairly low, a natural pandemic we might know absolutely nothing about, a designervirus still allways is based on something we allready know neccessarily. Its like 100$ to get a CRISPR kit to geneticly engineer stuff at home but it would allways just be a modification of something thats allready there and we would be familiar with that base and be able to combat it fairly effectivly.

If bioengineering is advancing as fast as Kyle says than that should mean an incredible amount of progress in medicine and vaccination. The idiot that decides to make a artificial Black Plague or whatever will probably be the most likely to die in some sort of accidental release in is own home

@@geometricchump509: Cue the scenes from both _Eight-Legged Freaks_ and _Snakes on a Plane._ You know the ones.

The game

@@kevinvan4310 no u

Yeah, CognitoHazards

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virus 23

@Fen Vulpeus Michael Jackson best scp

@@ImieNazwiskoOK Ah fuck, it's been nice knowing you.

I get the sentiment you’re going for, but it’s too passive a stance in this context. In what possible scenario could it ever be beneficial for the general public to have open access to the means of constructing WMDs or bioweapons?

@Dreroyce While the bio weapon example does work the way you mentioned, the bomb one doesn't. For example, mythbusters were doing an episode to prove that it's impossible to make a bomb out of stuff most people have at home and it was never aired because they actually made it work. You don't need all the knowledge to make it work, in some cases all you need to do is follow the instructions

I dunno. I'm personally more afraid of controlling of information more than of the hazards of that information. I think the point about making a disease is gonna be a much better option for someone who wants to do harm than a nuclear weapon. Now its completely reasonable to control seriously dangerous info and I do understand that (the u.s. government at the time we started our nuclear age started its restrictions on what they called "born secret" info which was info that would progress nuclear weapons design or manufacturing if it was conceived). But things could progress downwards from there. Maybe restrictions of what we consider hazardous info is a reasonable thing now, but what would information restrictions look like 150 years from now? Will the bar for "hazardous" be lowered over time to mean things that could harm as few as a handful of people? How likely is a government to use infohazards for their own gain? We see it already in some places and I may be paranoid on this but I think the u.s. is more than willing to take similar measures no matter what side of politics they are in.

@@gavinperch9413 liberal shill

OBJECTION! Calls for speculation. XD

Tyler still mentions it, they just don't show it on screen

You can find the basics in books that existed for decades, I had chemistry teachers who gave us quite upfront info on how to explode things, this is not new.

Stupid thing to worry about. If people want the info they will ALWAYS find it.

Generally speaking, explosives are pretty simple conceptually. It's just a matter of getting monoatomic nitrogen atoms attached to unstable molecules. Fun fact, the original motivation for finding a cheap and scalable way to pull apart diatomic nitrogen molecules was to mass produce explosives for the German army in World War 1. That process is still used today to mass produce fertilizer, which allows humanity to grow enough crops to feed billions.

Burn notice talks about "you can make thermite from an etch a sketch and a few.things from a hardware store" and unfortunately my husband I knew exactly what he was talking about. It is disturbingly easy to make

The real problem is stopping the people who would abuse the information, while simultaneously stopping the people that would abuse that stopping power. If you need an example of abuse of people with stopping power, just look at big tech. It's quite the conundrum.

you want some really condensed infohazards that a bad actor could use without any way to be stopped? just ask chat gpx, it will list them all for you. that, in itself is an infohazard. itll even help you trouble shoot.

how you define good and bad people?

@@mohamedelhaddade6371 Le edgy nihilist has arrived

@@Kisel228-fp8iz am not a nihilist am simply asking a straight question to know what exactly we are talking about

And the lasers!

I've always wondered if one could survive a broken hyoid bone, since it is one of the classic signs of strangulation.

What is the most efficient way to do so? Asking for a friend

@@ovalbasherthreehundredsixt4069 you First need to [REDACTED] so the Person can’t [REDACTED] . Then you slowly [REDACTED] [REDACTED] until they’re Quiet

@@shaq6976 oooohhh right I always get caught up on removing [Data Expunged] the [Redacted] their [Redacted] or shit I mean my friend

And yet they show strangling someone kill in 30 seconds when it’s more like 20 min of sustained pressure

the Inquisition is on the case

@@judahmatende3769 Dr Bright, we've been over this.

@@judahmatende3769 can you imagine the SCP Foundation meeting the Inquisition?

Noted, a Mobile Task Force is on their way.

Yeah, they definately give good examples of what could happen with each K-class scenario.

Roko's Basilisk is a just modified version of Pascal's Wager.

Frances Farmers basilisk.

@@k_tess That is a very good way to describe it. Though there is a difference between worshipping and bringing into reality. But the base concept is the same. Just that Roko's Basilisk is a system with an absolute ending unless you die before it happens. Pascal's wager sets a false conclusion of "You have nothing to lose by worshipping god". Roko's Basilisk sets a strong set of parameters in terms of "You have a shit ton to lose or you make people lose a shit ton".

@@k_tess rokos basilisk is stupid how would a computer even torture u

we will

Same

[DATA EXPUNGED]

Amen

Yup

Same

When knowledge and free dissemination of it induces fear - ignorance is considered a virtue; This is not the world we want.

Thanks Cirno, very cool!

Also, yes, it's frightening. Somehow, though, the idea that a government or an interest pressure group of any sort (which a government is a subset of) has power to declare certain true (scientifically true) knowledge an "infohazard" is even more frightening, by a wide margin.

Roko's Basilisk Pepelaugh

and imagine having that information right at your tip of tongue and you have the power to just type it here... Future biotechnologist me could very likely relate to this.

FUN FACT: you can find on youtube all the necessary information required to build a magnetic accelerator weapon. All the materials are available on Amazon. In total, all you need is too much free time and ~$50 USD, and you'll have a low end railgun. Oh, and since it's technically not a firearm, the regulations are a bit fuzzy. Very few nations have bothered to explicitly ban owning a gauss rifle, coil gun, or railgun.

FUN FACT: you can wipe out china by mass producing comical amounts of planes directing into each of their buildings. 9/11 over and over again, but on the same day, of course.

The more you know ✨ ✨ ⭐

Knowledge = Power Power -> Responsibility So... Knowledge -> Responsibility

@@heitorprevitalli3182 or in other words: responsibility

Correct...because they wouldn't know if they should or not, anyway. They don't even know how to comprehend what "should" or "should not" be done and why. Instead they fixate on moral nonsense and fantastical delusions of how perfect nature supposedly is.

Honestly his reasoning for that specifically the "this power didn't take any discipline to get," as if years of education, research, and advancement from dozens of people isn't discipline.

When I see a driver weaving through traffic, I'm sure they think they're a great driver because they can do it. I think I'm a good driver because I won't.

INFOHAZARD- IMO it was real. And IMO it was likely a lab containment failure. Just like the Smallpox example. I believe they were trying to make a super vaccine by making and figuring out a super-flu virus. From what I was able to research, I believe the research started in the US in Georgia or Alabama and then was deemed "to dangerous" to continue on US soil. They then shipped the research to China and continued... until there was a containment failure. And people wonder why China blames the USA for "releasing" the virus upon them. But that is just what I believe from sources I have read and trust to a point. You should research for yourself and come to your own conclusions.

@@James-bw4np we can't make agreements on trade that'll benefit us both. You think we cooperated a bio super weapon, that we refused to keep testing, to another rising super power we don't fully trust? Have you ever heard any story about government competence? Do you seriously trust the bastards and the rich that much and think they're smarter than you? They're not smarter. They're rich and connected. And you're not. There doesn't need to be further conspiracy, control, driving thermite jets into schools to take away contrails rights. They own us already and there's nothing you can do. You're ignoring the real threat that exists and controls us all with fantasies of super competent, cooperating super humans with magic lasers that affect reality, when the laws and governments and businesses that own us have had our full cooperation with their plans. No fantasy needed. No 5g brainwashing. Stop telling people to "do their research",or let's hope you never said to "open your eyes" because your eyes are wide open and cooperative and you're trying to convince everyone you're better and separate because you can't accept you're a victim and a pawn and an enabler to it all. As we all are. Unless you're the rich and in power.

@@James-bw4np There is a skill that is very easy to learn that will help you be able to spot fake news and keep people from deceiving you. Please google the phrase "critical thinking".

we're all going to die behind the filter, aren't we?

@@RU-vidperson1337 well, i am not saying that i am agreeing with the guy but there are good reasons to a lab to go to China. Aside of the typical cheap labor and relaxed legislation stuff, they do actually have a active investment in medical technology research and more potential for growth than the US ever would be able to offer. That said, knowing the chinese government's history, bioterrorism isn't too far fetched either, even if unlikely.

You can read it bit by bit by searching for things that are safe but would eventually turn the discussion to its contents. Like this video's comment section.

Wait what bruh I downloaded a pdf readily available for free off google wh

The reason that its so easy to do malicious things is because its kept secret and so whenever someone gets access to it, they get essentially a 0 day exploit type of scenario. If it were common knowledge companies would take more care to make sure they don't get destroyed by people with said knowledge.

​@@leonardonetagamer Security by obscurity is pretty much the weakest form of security and the hardest to keep secure too.

​@@leonardonetagamer it's easy to do malicious things because tech is interconnected, and capitalism prioritises speed over quality in development. Any idiot can find hundreds, if not thousands, of examples where a vulnerability is disclosed & the vendor refuses to fix it. I've led a penetration testing team for almost 10 years now, and those are still my favourite category of flaw.

When I was still in school to be a detective (quit because I found out I'd have to start as a cop, and people were being assholes about me "being a pig" and other shit) we learned a lot about white collar crime and other various things. We also learned how to commit white collar crimes and various other stuff.

I remember in cyber security classes, whenever we were about to learn about a new way to break into a system, the entire class had to repeat out loud the exact law that we would be breaking if we actually did what we were about to learn on/to someone else's system. Article 138ab of Dutch Criminal Law, I still remember it (despite dropping out of that course and my career going into a different direction afterwards).

Its like I always said "I don't deal in what-ifs, I deal in absolutes". There is a non-zero chance someone uses the information to do harm, but because people aren't cartoon supervillains It isn't a real problem. It may as well be zero chance. Its best to not worry about it and not let fearmongering control the availability of information.

@@kuraiwolf4047 think about it this way; there is a non-zero chance that my ceiling fan will spontaneously fall on my head for no reason whatsoever or that my next door neighbour's PS5 will catch fire and burn their house down along with my house... but then again; a PS5 wouldn't just combust like that and right now; the blades on my fan aren't even positioned above me right now lol Thinking in What-Ifs is a sad way to live life

@@deinonychus1948 of course, those are more irrational examples. Chances of those happening are very small 0.0....01% probabilities; the lower the chance the less we have to worry about such an event happening. But a higher chance of something happening that threatens our way of life as a species can be devastating. I am a major in physics, and I can tell you how easy it is to create a thermonuclear bomb. Sure of course you need the money for it, but all in all, you don't require many materials, and many of these materials can be found online. Chemistry can be easily learned and taken to create toxic chemicals. I actually own a vial of pure uranium salts, tested with a Geiger counter, and knowing that even an undergraduate like me can own this, it kinda scares me. I know where you can get recipes and any scientific publication without paywall or extensive searching, I know where to get all sorts of different chemicals, all just by researching. I've seen scientific articles describing recipes of research chemicals and drugs of all different types(not solely just illegal ones either). I have made chloroform before, and I've made napalm, with no prior experience, but learned from Google searches. Technology is becoming ever more advanced and even an AI uprising can threaten our species if somebody creates killbots. I've dibble dabbled in code and in the meantime learned about computer viruses that can be made that can hijack banks and even entire government offices. I know that replicated black holes have been made in labs with magnets. You could probably even find good articles on how CERN created antimatter, and somebody could build a makeshift particle collider. And antimatter is a lot scarier than any nuke. Pure unadulterated energy is released upon collision with normal matter. And these are just the reasons to look at the what ifs. Sure, it's depressing, but these examples are still a probability of something happening with the 8,000,000,000 people on the planet, it is bound to happen sometime in the future if the probability is nonzero, right? One last thing: there is a study conducted saying that if you slap a table, there is the probability of all the atoms in your hand and table completely missing one other and your hand moving through effortlessly.(but idk the validity of this claim)

@@kuraiwolf4047 Hypothetically if everyone instantly knew how to make an nuclear bomb and had the materials to do so that would also mean that everyone knows that radiation can't penatrate X materials, that what constitutes the deadly blast area greatly depends on how far away you are from the blast and how deep underground you are. They'd know how much time would have to pass before it was safe to leave cover. Everyone would know all of these things and know that everyone else knows them. This and everyone would know how terrifying atomic wounds are. Who would think detonating a nuclear bomb would worth it at that point?

@Shada You can stop anxiety spirals? Teach me your ways lmao.

I have some PDFs like those (not much cause I deleted a lot of crap from my PC), and I remember getting all of them from common PDF download websites.

I love how he says you could have it on your desk in a couple days in a couple hundred dollars... I have some news lol

@@xugro A Canadian research team manufactured horse pox to demonstrate the hazard. Their cost estimate was around a quarter million dollars.

@@useazebra twist bioscience advertises 7 cent per base pair but they have a max length of 1800bp so thats like 1% of smallpox... but you can also modify an already existing virus to do some nasty things. Thought emporium modified one to make his intestines create lactase enzyme to "fix" his lactose intolerance and it worked suprisingly well i think for a couple months

So they invented cancer 2.0?

That was also infectious somehow?

@@bobjhon7391 Basically, yeah. An infectious cancer that their gene editing-based healthcare machines couldn't cure without also damaging the host's own cells.

Don't worry about it, it's more likely that our civilization will collpase due to the breakdown of our agricultural production chain as we will soon lose access to the cheap hydrocarbons required to mantain said food production infrastructure, given that we probably already already peaked in global oil production, so our civilization probably won't last for long enough to make the gene editing tech become an even greater issue

@@greenrocket23 Oh yeah, I'm not worried about it. We're already on the slow, laborious path to total collapse, we'll likely never see such a thing come to pass. Even if that weren't the case, I'm sure bureaucracy and general meddling would ensure we'd never see gene-editing technology to such a degree as described within our lifetimes.

you mean "I shouldn't I tell you this"

@@Eliqueme Ah HA, he has already changed the title! Joke's on you, I was ahead of my time. 0u0

@@alecdickens1042 damb

And also the effective range would be further than you could launch it in that case

The answer is potassium. That's what the bananas are for.

A nuclear bomb going critical isn't going to cause an explosion. I think he meant super critical. Critical means a sustained reaction. Super critical means exponential reaction.

That also told us enough for us to know to keep bananas far away from our nuclear reactors! Which is also why that probably wasn't an infohazard, but some actually pertinent information. It was telling us how to not send a reactor in to meltdown.

Bananas are always better. What would be more suspicious? Plutonium on the floor or a banana?

@@CoxTH potassium + water + ??? = critical nuclear reaction! 🍌🔥 We're like, 90% of the way to figuring it out.

Unfortunately those are the dumb ones. The smart ones could figure it out. But smart doesn't mean moral

@@ferrous719 correct

@@ferrous719 Not necessarily dumb people though. To some people critical thinking doesn't come naturally even if they have achieved a higher level if education.

@@asheronwindspear552 high int, low Wis?

Average IQ of 100 equals Let's watch Dance Moms.

It _is_ weird, how we are... 😈

And now, you can make thermite by watching RU-vid videos

@@MahmoudElgassier Combined with other videos you could make mini ballistic missile

I thought of the recipe for mustard gas. Widely known, cheap to make, easy to make. I think the mustard gas thing is a great example though that infohazards aren't really that much of an issue. Its widely known, cheap, and easy but you still don't see anyone using it. You'd think every terrorist in the world would use it but they don't. Terrorist attacks themselves are rare, ones using mustard gas are basically unheard of.

That's exactly where my mind went, too.

It's especially hazardous since 'some website' could have a typo or deliberate error that 'some other website' mutates with an error upon the error and so on long before it gets to the 'some website' that you eventually stumble upon and potentially take as fact.

Dude that most fast food companies. Dude McDonald's Ice cream Machines are never broken. We're not allowed to tell customers that were cleaning the machine. AT ALL. So if it most likely down it's not broken, its been cleaned. The fuck is wrong with McDonald's

@@that1nerdyblackgirl736 it gets hella annoying when i hear people say "oh the mcdonald's ice cream machine is always broken!!" because every time i've been there it wasn't being cleaned so i got my ice cream. people spread misinformation like it's fact

@@falcon_arkaig Some McDonald's do have this stupid habit of cleaning them during peak hours, guess it's due to the individual franchise model. Never had an instance where they wouldn't simply say, "We're cleaning it" though, and the excessive cleaning is the result of a class action lawsuit.

Woah jeez, that is some dangerous information right there!

@@blargoramma41 the reason they're always broke down is because the company that produces them makes them purposefully hard to work and easy to mess up because they make absurd revenues from sending their technicians out to fix them. Johnny Harris did an interesting video on it

r/meirl

Dangerous infohazards exist: Dr Stone : let me introduce myself

We all feel like this. It's the Forbidden Fruit syndrome.

and that's called clickbait

I had to know 😅👌

yeah, thats why i find the idea of infohazards to be a little ridiculous, once people figure out they can control what we see, most people have lost their free will, I say most because there is always some people who go "wait a minute, somethings not right here". Trying to control how people think and react to information is wrong, like playing god in a sense. Some information might be dangerous, but having that out there is better, at least to me, than servitude.

@@Georgeshawwaiancousin For sure! And what constitutes an infohazard to different classes is wildly different. The Anarchist Cookbook is disseminated across the web and gets brought up frequently as The Big Scary, but more the TAC, I think the US federal, state, and local governments see HUGE value in suppressing information about, say, jury nullification*, which has been a moral hazard in the past but could be a secular tool. Definition of and control over moral hazards is scary to consider. Especially when arguments around debt jubilees and other ideas are considered moral hazards by economists. Are we simply to burn David Graeber's books to prevent people from learning that permanent debt has never worked? How do you run a [liberal] democracy at that point? [*Gets brought up now to protect defendants by jury nullification against, say, criminalizing miscarriages, but in the past was used to nullify crimes like lynchings, so it isn't a pristine tool]

People can democratically agree on classes of information that should not be shared without the government automatically turning fascist. Its hard, but things like the US freedom of information act and other similar checks do help. For example almost every american would agree that a US soldier posting minute by minute troop movements while in a warzone to the world wide web should probably be illegal as it risks soldiers lives without providing any meaningful benefit to the public. We are perfectly comfortable leaving things like this classified. We should also be comfortable if the government goes “BTW we know how to make small pox” and the public responding “cool dont tell us the recipe”. This really isnt that different from the government showing the public “heres some archival footage of nuclear bombs we can make, but we wont give you the schematics for making them”. Theres a difference between the public being unaware of what the government is up to, and the government being able to keep certain technical information classified with many caveats as to when theyre allowed to do so (but I would agree with you the public needs some idea of what information IS classified, and checks need to be in place, no blank checks for the government on this)

@GeorgesHawaiianCousin , So you basically agree that public schools are wrong because that's exactly what a teacher is trained to do.

I think you'll find we already live in that world. WEF: "Look out! A world wide pandemic is here! Best we hide the origin and prepare to remove all freedom from all the plebs... *Cough*. Did I just say that out loud?" Observant Individual: "Why do places that have lockdowns, have similar COVID results to places that don't? And how would removing our freedom help?" The SHEEP: "AHHHHHH! NOOOooo!1!11!!!!!1! Don't question the eXpErTs" WEF: "Look everyone, someone that is trying to question us! They must hate vaccines. And they're probably racist, or dislike rainbows, or whatever, just get rid of them" Observant Individual: "No, I was jsut ask..." *Cancelled*

The way I read this was "Kyle Hill, I shouldn't tell you this..." Which immediately made me think "What shouldn't I tell Kyle Hill?"

write it down then burn it up. be content in the fact its safe because only you know it and you trust yourself to not let it out

Has it gotten any better

@@Greeen7771 My general wellbeing, yes, I have been on anticonvulsants for a while and am improving. The infohazard is still as damaging as it has always been. I manage to forget it for some periods of time but it is still a very clear and simple sentence of incomparable pain.

Something like EFT tapping or EMDR might help you to decrease the emotional response to the thought. Sorry, that sounds awful to have in your head

I'm so curious what this is, if it wouldn't be harmful to you for you to tell me could I hear it?

Chances are if there's destructive information out there then it's already known by the people capable of doing wrong with it.

Don't talk to me! I am famous! Don't dislike my good good GOOD videos! Don't talk to me, dear zen

like camera shots or personal shots?

More dunks than a Harlem Globetrotters show.

@@AxxLAfriku God i love mozzarella sticks

Kyle is effectively a Wikipedia of shots to take of the punny variety. But also, eff Fortnite

That's the kind of info hazard we need most to guard against, IMO. Or hand out lots and lots of cognitive dissonance.

Got a link?

He said he doesn’t think it’s actually dangerous (I don’t either but that’s besides the point).

If you think Roko's Basilisk is actually dangerous you're delusional

@@ember-evergarden Speak for yourself. I'm gonna go donate to Deepmind or something.

we need to make it

Lol

it makes sense for you as a school teacher to think that, but in the long run and even in the present that form of withholding information only helps to maintain status quo without ever letting people think for themselves. if everyone is afraid of change and institutionalized by their own education to be afraid of change, how would we be able to handle any information that would be considered an infohazard or even slightly controversial? if anything bad happens at that point, it’s the system’s fault for not being able to handle the shitstorm it created by essentially lying to and manipulating multiple hundreds of millions of people.

Another music teacher and 40k fan here, and while I understand your perspective I have to disagree. It's true we don't want to dump the sum total of human knowledge into a students lap. It would be too much to discern anything useful from and would seem only as chaos. However, our responsibility isn't to tell people what to think but to teach them how to think in a way that enables them to discern with wisdom and critical thinking what is useful and true from all of they will encounter. It's simply not possible to protect someone from any and all forms of confusion, lies, and misleading arguments. Instead, like bolstering an immune system, individuals should be strengthened by others and themselves to ward off such things and make decisions for themselves on what they will and will not believe to be true.

Nice pfp BTW. Deathsythe is awesome.

People aren't inherently good. One person with perfectly accurate information could use it to destroy entire sections of the world.