My father was 5th special forces in Vietnam 65-68. He always said that no one escapes an M1. He gave me the M1 he carried throughout the conflict. Its one of my prized possessions. Cheers for the great video!
You're lucky to have that. A couple of years later no one was allowed to do that. I had found a brand new AK-47 left on the field after a fire fight in '69. I kept it until I was ready to go back home but was not allowed to take it with me. A year earlier I think it was allowed but the barrel had to be plugged with lead first; then they stopped even that. Thanks to your Dad. I remember working with some the 5th SF briefly. They lived with the Mountanyards.
I have my dad's M1. I clean and oil it every 2 years. 3rd Army, Patton. Saw duty in the 21st Century Oakland, CA. Carried it to recover my Stolen truck :)
My grandfather, William Wade carried a M1 Carbine in WW2. He was in the 80th infantry Field artillery . He fought at the Battle of the Bulge . His main weapon was the 105mm howitzer and his side arm was his M1 carbine. That weapon got him through the Bulge.He was awarded the Bronze Star. I am so proud to be part of his blood line.He passed away at the age of 48. He died at work of a heart attack.He worked at Goodyear in Akron Ohio. I was very young when he passed .I do remember a little about him. I hope to someday own an M1 carbine. For Grandpa Bill.
@judas380, there was a Texan named Audie Murphy that is kinda famous that used an M1 Carbine. Well, and a few times 50 BMG. He was around a whoping 112 pounds. So your grandfather was in good company.
My grandpa was in the battle of the bulge too. 106 infantry,company M. MG gunner. I own a early inland m1 carbine and my dad has a '44 rock ola. They are great guns. God bless you friend. Maybe our grandpas crossed paths.
My Dad served in the Korean War in the Infantry and he always had good things to say about this gun! I have a picture of he and 3 of his buddies in front of a tent with their ''cold weather'' boots,caps and pants, ammo belts with canteen attached, bayonets hanging by their sides and all holding this weapon with 30 rnd. mags.! On the back in his handwriting it says....North Korea 1952 with the names of everyone! What an amazing generation! Thank y'all for your service!
That is really cool ! I have a picture of my Father in Law when he was in Vietnam with the Marines. It's dated 1965 on the back. In the picture, Jim is drinking a beer with 2 fellow Marines. He was 19 then. What's really cool, Jim is wearing a camouflage jungle hat. It's not US issue. He told me he bought the hat from a local merchant. I have the hat now, hanging in my bedroom. I got it when Jim died over 20 years ago. Jim was wounded while fighting and we have his purple heart. He told me more about his time over there than anyone. Jim felt very guilty after being wounded. He wanted badly to back with his rifle squad. But he was discharged because of his wounds. He carried the memories of that Damn war with him until the day he died. I actually met Jim when I was a senior in highschool, and that is how I met and ended up marrying his daughter. He told me he didn't trust anyone with his daughter but me. He asked me right before he died to always protect and take care of his daughter. I promised Jim I would - and I have, all these years.
Nice to hear someone say good things about the 30 carbine. I asked my dad once about the 06 and he said he actually carried a 30 carbine, and really liked it a lot. His job was shooting the 30 caliber and then the 50 caliber machine gun on Okinawa. Most nights they'd have people trying to overrun their position. When they had illumination rounds they'd use the machine gun but when they were actually getting in close and overrunning foxholes he liked his 30. . Oh, and he called it carbeen too :-)
M1 Carbines carried on in US service well into the Vietnam War, especially for rear-echelon types. My uncle was a quartermaster at Cam Ranh Bay during 1968-9 (including Tet) and an M1 carbine was his service weapon for his entire tour. He somehow snuck it out when he rotated home. And he still has it to this day. I keep bugging him to let me have it but so far no joy.
Don't worry its a war story, he came back from Vietnam and bought the carbine at the hardware store. They use to sell pistols and rifles at the hardware store before the communist gun control act of 1968.
Hickok, My Dad carried one of these in the CBI Theater WWII. He always spoke fondly of it. He left us in 1997, but would have been 94 today. Thanks for sharing.
My dad never said, but he was a head cook in the CBI, Staff Sgt., but he was part of the peacetime draft and probably had a 1911. He shot my Mom's carbine very well, Mom got it in a swap for room rent from a Marine that had it in a stateside duffel bag so it was probably a souvenir. Dad would be 101 this year.
My dad was in the Korean war as a mechanic and radio man and did about 10 months on the front line (hill 117 mainly) and numerous missions into North Korea as a forward observer guiding planes into bomb sites. He never liked the 45 so he left it behind and carried more amo for his M2 carbine. He said it never failed him and at reusable ranges was plenty effective. 14 dead enemy in one close range very short fire fight with full auto. He liked the 30 carbine so well he owned at least 10 when he passed away.
Greetings from across the pond! When I was a child in 1960, these M1s were used in funfairs in England. They must have been converted down to .22 LR so that we kids could use them on shooting galleries. I remember that it cost two shillings for 10 shots. Happy, happy days!
I recall reading a news article about police in England shutting down a whole street as a crime scene because someone found a .22 cartridge. What happened to the country that birthed the Magna Carta?
When I started as a Cop in the 1970's we had a few Winchesters in our Armory. I remember our Firearms Instructor compared it to a .357 magnum with a 100 + yard range. The PD traded them for some Colt AR-15's. I liked them so much I have one in my collection. Sweet gun!
My father carried one of these in WWII. They were issued to many of the support troops that carried in ammo etc onto the islands in the South Pacific. They loved this gun because it was super lite and yet got the job done. Thanks for this video.
Truly from The Greatest Generation. It still staggers my mind at what we, as a country, accomplished when we all came together for the common good. The incredible amount of ships, aircraft, weaponry p, etc., we turned out in such a short period of time is nothing short of miraculous. I will say we will never be able to accomplish the same feats again.
Alan, at the conclusion of the Second World War, the industrial output of the United States was fully half of that for the entire world. They didn't call us "The Arsenal of Democracy" for nothing! In Detroit, the Willow Run plant (constructed by Ford Motor Inc.) making B-24 Liberator heavy bombers was the longest, largest assembly line in the world at the time. More than a mile in length, entirely under one roof.
I was issued a Carbine as part of 7th Army Hdqtrs company in Germany in the early 60s. Qualified once a year and always had it when we went out to the field during alerts. It was a great weapon and yes easy to handle.
I would like to add that as late as the 1960s the US Air Force trained us all in the use of the M1 Carabine as the basic weapon to defend our bases. We loved it. PS: we never drop our magazines. Lol.
Brings back memories of basic training at lackland AFB. Before entering the service in 1965, I used to go deer hunting with my dad so I was familiar with a bolt action 30 06. When they handed me the m1 carbine I thought you've got to kidding but that little rifle was amazingly accurate. After basic, when we qualified it was with the M16.
Good background on that Carbine. I was a Signal Corps officer back in the mid-1960s in Asia and we had those carbines. They were thrown behind the seats in trucks, left in the rain while the troops did some work and generally mistreated. Not intentionally, but because the guys who were issued them had other things to do every day. But twice a year, everyone had to qualify with their carbine and at 50 yards or so, they continued to work just fine. Brings back a lot of memories of a fine second echelon weapon.
Thanks for your service, and for understanding about how well made the M1 Carbines really were! Not even the AR of today has that reputation for quality!
@@rmd8873 ....also the weapon of choice for night time sniper work with the infra-red scope...(M-3)...sold mine awhile back..got leery of carrying that wet battery...[complete with acid]..on my back!...definition on that scope was sharp and clear out to 100 meters or so...better than the starlight that replaced it....
My grandfather was doing his college co-op as an engineer at Saginaw Steering Gear in the late 1950s. He told me about the long corridor in the basement, lined thick with bricks and with a steel plate at the end, where they test-fired every few of these things. His biggest memory of that room was how messed up the bricks were from all the shots. After telling me about it, he went and looked up Saginaw history for the exact numbers produced, and remembered a cousin who had one up in Bay City. This video was a trip down memory lane for an old man, so thanks for that.
My dad carried one and preferred it over the Garrand, M14 and M16. He said, it would take care of just about anything under 200 yards. He never met a soldier who asked for a heavier rifle in his 22 years in the military.
This was the preferred arm for officers. I remember seeing this nice-shaped carbine carried by Lieutenant Hanley (by Rick Jason) in the legendary TV series "Combat".
My dad also carried an M1 carbine in WWII as a naval officer who took search parties onto battlefields where the engagements had recently taken place to rescue surviving American troops; he loved the weapon (telling me it was a "sweet shooting gun") and tried to buy it from the Navy when he was discharged in 1945 but Navy regs wouldn't permit it.
My Dad also carried an M1 Carbine as well. He was in the 104th Division (Timberwolves) the entire time they were in Europe and carried an M1 Carbine since he was the company bugler and a runner. Growing up, he never spoke of his Army experiences, whether he liked his M1 Carbine, and didn't like hunting. Watching war movies with him he would always yell at the movie saying, "Keep your head down damn it." or "That's the gun I carried." He basically said to my brother and I that he didn't like guns. He discarded everything from his Army days immediately after getting home when we asked about where they were as young boys. All we have of his time in the Army is pictures and one of his medals. Not until late in life did we come to realize why he felt as he did. My brother and I found out after both parents were invited to an early teen classroom (in San Diego) to discuss their WWII and Depression-era experiences. My brother videoed the event and mailed me a CD copy. They were both in their early 90s at the time. (The teacher in the classroom was my brother's stepdaughter and my niece.) Later in the discussion, a young student asked my father if he ever killed any Germans. Watching the video of the event and not expecting the question, I was stunned at his answer. Apparently, after injuring his hands with barbed wire (another long story where he was awarded the Bronze Star), he was on limited duty until he recovered. He was ordered to take German prisoners by himself to the rear. When he asked the officer "How am I going to shoot with these hands", the officer responded, "Can you still use your trigger finger?" while wiggling his own. When he responded that he could, he was ordered to guard them while taking them down the road. He said he was also ordered to shoot them if they tried to escape. Although my father never said in the video whether the Germans understood English or not, I reasoned they couldn't but obviously could see he was injured. In the video, he said he told them "No funny business." Down the road, they went. Later, the Germans broke and ran trying to escape. After ignoring his order to stop, he said he shot and killed all three. I was stunned and immediately called my brother to discuss it. He was expecting my call and said he was just as stunned. Soon after this trip to visit my brother on the west coast, my father came down with cancer and died 3 months after it was discovered. I've often thought of the shooting incident and understood his dislike of guns, why he discarded his uniform and most of his medals, and why he never spoke of the war. Although a very strong-willed and hard man in his early years, he had mellowed as he aged. I reasoned he felt guilty about shooting those prisoners given how he was raised Catholic and sent all my siblings to Catholic school. I wish during those short months before he passed that I had told him "Dad, you were doing your duty and forced to shoot them when they tried to escape; especially since you were ordered to shoot if they did". Perhaps he never told us while we were still young since he feared we would think badly of him. Nothing could be further from the truth. We were all proud of him as a father and as a man. He was a shining example of what a parent is supposed to be; both him and my mother. I own an Inland-made M1 Carbine today that I will never sell since it's in honor of my father.
I was stationed at a base in the states for three years before before shipping out to South Korea after the North took to USS Pueblo. This was in the mid 60’s. Each year we had weapons qualification. The one year the guy at the range had these M1 carbines for us to qualify on. These were sweet to hold in your hands and fire. Nice change from using the Maty Mattel plastic M16.
I like all of hickok’s videos, but I loved this one for the amount of history included. Not many relatives or friends are as interested as Ned in older firearms like this carbine, they all want to see the newest bullpup or pocket gun. This was a breath of fresh air.
I have my Great Grandfather's M1 from the Pacific, it is the best, smoothest rifle I've ever fired. Love that damn thing, and I wish it could tell me it's tales.
What heroes, including my dad, served in the US Army during the 1940s. I get nostalgic every time I witness the weapons, pictures or music of the time. The planes, the tanks, the ships are all so special, including those of the Germans, Japanese, or the Brits.
The M1 Carbine was the rifle I qualified with in 1961 as an UASF recruit and I have always admired theThe M1 Carbine. Always nice to see one at a gun show and get to handle it. Very nice presentaion.
if you fire one these days..or depend upon it for defense...be sure to load it with hollow points..it will deliver about the same amount of smack as a .357.....
I’ve heard people complain about the power too but every time I’ve shot one I never got the impression it was unpowered for its intended purpose. Lightweight, accurate, good capacity and just enough stopping power. Was my main home defense weapon for years until I switched to a Mossberg 12 gauge riot shotgun.
A lot of complaints came from soldiers who were shooting far beyond the m1's maximum effective range. The 30 carbine round flies at 2000 fps and has great penetration, meaning that with ball ammo it's probably going to pass through. No 30 carbine expanding round is pretty devastating, they're used quite often against Hogs.
Most of the complaints are from people who never fired the carbine are as has been said they are comparing it to the 30.06 Garand. Different rifles have different uses just as you have different shovels for different uses.
My father was an Army Ranger during WWII stationed in the Panama Canal Zone. He nor any of the other rangers in his squad would carry the little M1 carbines on patrol. Most of the rangers used the M1 Garand or Browning BARs (.30-06). He talked me out of buying one that had been used in WWII Europe. I never attempted to shoot one but after seeing this video, I wish I had bought the one I could have picked up at a pretty cheap price (in the 1960's). My father said the accuracy of the carbine did not begin to approach the accuracy of the M1 Garand especially on long range targets. Thanks for this video.
Fixed one in white fox Saskatchewan. Never fired a round as it had no way of firing as the mechanisms were all out of specifications. Performed the mechanical work to make it fire, it shot the ejector and spring backwards. Luckily no eye damage, threw that thing right into the rock fire pit right there, cracking its stock. It’s on a farm still north of white fox, in a corner with scrap steel.
I inherited my Dad's Universal M1 Carbine. Universal made civilian versions from 1964-ish to 1984. It has the same basic form but they swapped out and remade where they needed in order to make it. Still a solid weapon and shoots straight and fast. If you want a light recoil, medium power, short rifle (carbine) for hunting, self-defense, or just range day, a 30 carbine is never a bad choice.
I always wanted an M1Carbine but never got one. My father carried one during WWII in Europe. He was a forward observer in the 322nd Field Artillery, 83rd Infantry Div.
Go buy one. It will make you feel good. Kind of a connection with the past and your father. My father hated it and carried an M1 rifle in Korea as a platoon and company commander.
I own a custom made M1, thing runs like a race horse. My grandfather served during Korea, told me stories about the M2 full auto version! Said it was the fastest firing gun he ever saw, loved the hell outta the thing!
I think that M1 Carbine rifles are very good and light weight one.Specially I love M2 carbine rifle has a excellent functions available sigle shot and continuous shots with a megazine of 30 bullets and have many firing experiences when I was soldier in the Korean army life.Thanks a lot.
Hickok, thanks for taking the time to review this Firearm. I'm a huge fan of the M1 Carbine. In particular, I want to thank you for taking the time to show your reference sources that you used for researching this wonderful M1. A lot of times, the reference details make the difference and the research that you did before making this video was quite evident in how you spoke about the production history and the 10 manufacturers of the firearm. I don't believe I have seen you go into this level of detail before in your research that you revealed during the course of the video like you do here in this review. To me, it was a huge positive in the quality of the video. I encourage you to do this when you can. It is definitely appreciated. Wonderful video review sir....really well done. Thanks to you and Big John.. :)
There is a video somewhere on youtube about the French Foreign Legion using M1 Carbines, and they discover that the ballistics of the .30 round is actually quite impressive when shot into clay. It's not the weak round that people usually consider it to be.
Korean War Soldiers were shooting past 250m at advancing Chinese Infantry. The .30 Carbine is most effective to a maximum of 150m to 200m. Otherwise, it's a little cartridge with really big bite.
Nautilus Mine would probably be the Karabiner Kurtz 98 or the PTRS-41. As for sidearms, probably Colt's .357 magnum that was used at the time. The Tokarev, or however you spell it, is pretty cool too. Most guns the Japanese used were based off of other countries' designs (type 98 = British Bren machine gun, type 99 = German Mashinepistole 30) so those don't really count.
By the way, this is a USGI model used in WWII, not the modern reproduction Inland. If you've seen the video, that's pretty obvious. :-) By the way, don't forget to check out the Hickok45 Store to see new shirt designs and such. 10% of what we make goes to charity: shop.missingink.com/hickok45store
I love the videos in which you talk about the history surrounding a given firearm. That is what makes these old guns so attractive to many of us; even more so when stories can be associated with a specific gun. For example, my CMP M1 Garand has a serial number that dates to the 50s. The gun is immaculate except for the butt plate, which is ground up and chewed looking. My guess is that my gun did guard duty somewhere during the Korean War. If our guns could tell tales....
Hickok' Check your magazine spring in the bad magazine it may be installed the wrong way around ie: the high portion of the spring pressing on the wrong end of the follower? It appears the primer side is lower than the nose of the shell not allowing bolt pickup of the last round?maybe the spring high end is pressing on the forward part of the follower?Jim
Audie Murphy used his M1 Carbine to end a whole bunch of Germans. Probably more than when he used the 50 Browning on that burning Tank Destroyer. So in the right hands . . . it's VERY deadly.
I am still amazed at the longevity of weapons such as the 1911, the M1 Garand, and the M1 Carbine. I qualified expert with the Garand when I entered the army in 1963, and carried the 1911 and M1Carbine while I was an infantry officer in Vietnam in 1966-67. Hard to believe that they had been manufactured just two or three years after I was born, even before my fifth birthday, just before the end of World War II.
This was the weapon my great uncle used when he fought in World War 2. He was with the 6th Armored Division and fought through France, Belgium, and Germany. He helped to liberate Buchenwald.
@@paulegelhoff1391 I got mine for $900 but I have seen them range from $1000 to $1500. A correction about mine, the barrel is dated 8-44 and the receiver is 43.
My wife’s grandfather carried an M1 Carbine in Korea in 1952-53, with the 24th Infantry Division and then 45th Infantry Division. He was initially a machine gunner, but when he made squad leader and later platoon sergeant, he carried the carbine. He said he loved it because of the high rate of fire compared to the M1 Garand. He said that the engagements were so close and fast that he never noticed that it was “under powered”, and used to carry his magazines taped together back to back. I loved the this video. Especially the history of this weapon. A real tribute to the men who carried them! There’s not many left.
I began to shoot this Carbine M1 of my uncle, he was a People's Self-Defense Officer after Tet Offensive 1968 in Hue city and using it until leaving it at Thuan An beach in March 1975. It such a nice gun, light and accurate.
I carried the M1 carbine for a year in VN. Brought it from my CO when he rotated for $65 with 4 "double" magazines. It was a Rockola, which was quite a joke with my buds, but it was a great weapon.
Excellent talk or orientation, on the M1 carbine, I had the Ruger model back in the 80's. I Loved it for plinking, or prairie dogs out in the Badlands. My good friend had an original post WW2, that was manufactured for the Korean conflict. He attained it still packed in the cosmalen grease . We had hours of shooting enjoyment, with them. Pip sight and all. Thanks so much.🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
I remember that one story told by WW2 veteran in a documentary. He entered a German bunker alone with his M1 Carbine, and there's about 5 German troops in that bunker. He pointed his weapon at them and they immediately surrender.
Just bought one, and it’s actually the first gun I’ve ever owned. Couldn’t be happier with it; shoots great (as far as I can tell), and a very cool piece of history! I have the 1942 inland.
Hi, I just want to thank you for all the shootin' videos. I have some of the guns (18 firearms) you show but it's swell to watch you in action. I save and watch them frequently, especially when I can't get out to shoot. The wife thinks I'm nuts. Informative and fun, you are like a breath of fresh air. Keep up the neat videos.
Outstanding explanation/analysis of the philosophy of the design to fit those times. Thank you for your work. I LOVE my M1 Garand and pick her up a few times a week just to feel the history.
Trained with one many years ago, good design, sufficiently powerful and easy to shoot. The standard complaint grew out of the Korean war when soldiers felt that the little carbine was not sufficiently powerful to get the job done. But, within a reasonable distance, the .30 caliber slug is bad news. Recoil is mild, magazine capacity is good, and it is light to carry. Nice little gun. The M-16 was the standard infantry rifle in my time, although I always preferred the M-14. Still do, although I appreciate the history of the little carbine. And I'm old enough to remember Jimmy Stewart as "Carbine Williams".
Exactly the reason for so many M1 carbines used in WWII. We lived next door to a guy that was a Seabee dozer operator's on Saipan in WWII. I guess he had a carbine. They were building airstrips before the fighting was over. Then later, my dad had this co-worker that had been a USMC cook on Saipan. He told me about the final Banzai charge the enemy made when they knew were were going to be defeated. The Japanese came storming out of their underground caves, tunnels and bunkers and broke through the front lines and the cooks stopped them from breaking into the headquarters, only because they had their carbines and there was one last barbed wire fence in front of them that held and kept them from being overrun. Lots of dead enemy soldiers were on that fence, and lots of Marines came home because of their carbines both cooks and higher brass in the HQ. When one looks at that tiny 110 grain bullet, it was an amazing performance, no doubt.
I served in Vietnam and Thailand in the Vietnam war (1965-1966), and carried the M-2 Carbine (with selector for full auto) and a 1911 on my hip. The Carbine was great as a jungle weapon because of its weight and size. There was little use for a long range weapon, when you could barely see the man in front of you. We were issued the weapons and had Secret Service training in the use of them. Both were WWII manufactue. We had very limited use of them while we were there, but they were reassuring. In case you are wondering about the SS training, we were the First Coast Guard Construction Detachment, as we were part of the Treasury Dept. at the time.
Great video! I got to shoot one of these that belonged to a friend a few years ago and it fantastic. The weight and size made it extremely easy to hold and shoot. Wish I could afford one of my own, I love the gun.
My mom's grandfather met carbine Williams the inventor of the weapon. Carbine William's name was engraved on the butt of the gun, and the gun hasn't been fired in possibly decades. Im not telling a lie, it's true and probably worth thousands of dollars because of the engraved name of carbine Williams.
Great video. My brother has one of these and I've shot it a few times. Not sure of the manufacturer of his, but it's a fun little gun to shoot. Weighs almost nothing. Back in the 90's, when I was a younger man in my 30's I got into CB radio and had a little base station here at the house. Our property is located at a place that's one of the highest elevations in this area, so I could talk quite a ways. I met a very nice older man that lived on Clark's Hill lake where I fish at a lot, about 40 miles from my house and used to talk to him a lot. He was in Korea or Vietnam, and was a sniper with one of these with one with one of the early night scopes, the scope with the big IR emitter on top with a huge external battery pack. He would stay up all night talking on the radio, his daughter told me he had trouble sleeping at night after coming back. Really miss that guy.
Only one way to say it: "May God almighty curse this Sag-in-awe recirculating ball power steering pump, that hath stained His faithful's new driveway once again. From its Creation day to endtimes will this design shed fluid so long as fluid remains in its reservoir"
Outstanding historical review. I suspect pretty early issue, flip sights, push button safety and mag release, no bayonet lug. Thanks for another interesting submission.
I've got an M1 Carbine style rifle/carbine that shoots a .256 Win Mag. Hard to find ammo at first. But I can reload it now. Love just plinking with it. And the wood stock is actually some of the prettiest wood I've seen. Another great vid Hickok45. Thank you Sir.
Great video! I have a WW2 Inland model...love it...it’s one of my most treasured rifles. It’s a good idea to label (number) your mags as it makes it easier to identify bad ones. It’s not a bad idea to buy replacement springs for the mags, and also inspect to make sure the followers aren’t hanging up. The magazine is the Achilles heel on this gun. It would be great if Magpul put out some reliable polymer mags for this gun.
Your failure to feed issue is because the spring in the magazine was in backwards. You can see the rear of the round is lower than the front. As there are less rounds in the magazine there is less pressure on the spring causing it to relax. Remove the bottom and turn the spring around.
My dad flew 101st airborne around during WWII, had the 1911 side arm, and the M-1 carbine behind his seat in the cockpit. He never had a bad thing to say about it, and was glad to have it in case he got shot down.
My best friend and his dad bought a couple from camp perry maybe over 15 years ago. I loved shooting that carbine. No recoil shells eject every direction even bounce off your forehead. They were a blast to shoot.
Love your videos. At the end, when you took the safety off and dropped the magazine, that was exactly why the designers moved the magazine release away from the safety switch on later models like your Standard Products. Also, your Saginaw has the earlier flip peep sight as opposed to the Standard Products ramp sight. Great job. Keep it going please, and thank you.
Or the better comparison; its virtually identical to the ballistics of a 357 Magnum!... Its funny, ive found the people who call the 30 carbine a 'pea shooter' are the same people who call the 357 'the ultimate 'manstopper'...
GIs in Vietnam were finding themselves on the losing end of firefights with ak wielding viet kongs when they only had the m1/m2. That is why the military pushed Armalite to make a rifle that used the .223 cartridge and weighed 6 lbs with a loaded 20 round mag. Eugene Stoner and his team then gave birth to the AR-15 platform to meet the demand.
yea, more VCs died compaired to american troops, but don't forget we were not only using m1/m2s. We had napalm, MG60s, M14s, ...etc. In the early bouts we were losing ground firefights left and right. The m14s could not sustain fire against the AKs, and the M60s were too cumbersome to be used by every squad member. Without the introduction of the .223 and the light rifle designed by Stoner, we would have had to pull out of Vietnam a lot sooner.
The late Jim Cirillo, formerly of the elite NYPD Stake-Out Squad and veteran of more than a dozen gunfights, said that the M-1 Carbine, loaded with hollow-point ammunition, was a potent fight-ender.
The problem with using a pistol-caliber weapon as your primary arm in the jungle is that a pistol round - even a potent one like the .30-Carbine - loses energy quickly in penetrating multiple layers of foliage and undergrowth. In this respect, the Thompson and M3 Grease Gun, both in .45-Auto, were probably a better choice for close-range work. As far as the M16 is concerned, its small and light bullets were not immune to this problem, either.
cherry bomb it's a pronunciation problem you dummy carbine is the Germanic way to pronounce it car-bean is the Spanish/Italian way of enunciating a short rifle. Short muskets were called fusils by English, Dutch etc and fusilies by French/Italians.
I have one of these handed down from my dad. Started shouting it when I was about 12, and I can’t tell you how many deer I killed with that gun; many beyond 100 yards. Still works great, sitting in my closet right now.
My Dad was an expert with that carbine. As a teenager he was on the Pusan perimeter and the Yalu river during the Korean War. First time in my life I have seen one being fired. Don’t know what to say. Wow. Unbelievable.
