This is as good or better than what you’d expect in a high production anime or movie. Maybe it’s better because FS knows how to make great fights, the AI is insane that they can fight this smoothly against each other. It’s a testament to the fact that they balanced the game around one specific playstyle and movement speed.
@@pollen1253 Lol yeah, it took me awhile to realize that the step dodge actually has i-frames. It might be slightly less than dark souls but it’s still very useful in certain scenarios. And you can deflect his stomps, demon of hatred that is. He’s a very tough boss, very dangerous
I love that the tatics they use against you are actually effective against eachother, its like we're actually fighting these warriors how they fight in the cannon and not some dumbed down version for gameplay
Exactly. Like Isshin looks natural here but he doesn't when he fights against DoH for example because DoH is huge and has a lot of ranged fire attacks that Isshin doesn't even try to dodge and to time counters
I love how at 4:32 it looks like he used the powder to blind and damage him as he vanished, and Isshin jumped out and attacked thinking he was still there.
I know it's just random chance, but the way they seem to just adapt to each other: Isshin staying out of range of the fireworks at 4:41 and blocking the attack that came from behind at 5:10 and Owl dodging bullets at 5:46 Also that whole back and forward from 4:40 onward was sublime.
It really shows that Sekiro was taught by the Father. They have very similar move sets if you look closely. Not only in terms of what gadgets they use and what attacks, but also the timing of the parry, the jumping movements, the dodges, etc.
@AfroUnknown I play fighting games and jumping is something you should be careful off on Okizeme is fair play but otherwise it can be your doom, if they did not put emblem cost on weapons people would use more tools, I am not a spear type of guy but I use it and also the umbrella. There is not that much replay value on Sekiro but I guess some people still find some kind of fun.
This video>the other isshin vs owl videos The way you got the lightening to work and have owl go into his next phase without jumping in to deathblow was seamless, subbed now
@@TheRealNirox it not because he isn’t skilled, in fact he is the one that taught shinobi skills to sekiro, the reason is because some attacks of ai only work on the player (such as owl can only mikiri the player’s thrust, grabs can only work on the player)
You may not know, Owl was originally chosen as the main actor for the series The Matrix, not Keanu Reeves because of his skills in dodging bullets without cinematic tricks.
Owl: *Manages to perfectly dodge bullets on set without a single hit* Director: CUT! Owl: So, how did I do director? Director: Oof, yeah. Sorry to break it to you. No offense, but I honestly think that you did a bad job Owl: What are you talking about? Director: I’m sorry, but it just doesn’t feel the impact of the movie. What I’m saying is, we’re gonna have to cut you off. Owl: Wait, are you saying that I’m fired?! Director: No.............. Ok fine, yes. Owl: WHY?! Director: Because, during the past few weeks while we were filming, you did a terrible job saying the lines incorrectly, acted very horrible, and fighted very badly. That’s why we decided to replace you. Oh, there he is right now. Owl, meet your new replacement: Keanu Reeves Keanu: Hello, nice to meet you. Owl: Ugh, this is outrageous! You can’t be serious about that! What does he have that I don’t? What’s the difference between us? Director: Good question. Reeves? Keanu: I’m on it. Director: ACTION! Keanu: *Dodges the bullets almost correctly and gets hit in the leg.* Ow! Director: CUT! That was perfect! You see owl, that’s the difference. Here, you dodged those bullets horribly and here’s Keanu who proceeded to dodged them splendidly. Isn’t that right Keanu? Keanu: Uhhh, yeah. I think that’s about right. Owww! My leg. Director: I’m sure he’s alright. Okay boys, Cut owl’s part out and replace it because that’s a wrap. Oh, and make them cinematic immediately. Btw Owl, your not meant to fit in the main character role anyway Owl: This is ridiculous, I’m out of here! You’ll be hearing from my interior lawyers, I’ll sue you for it!
I think its cool to think how ridiculously strong both Isshin and Owl are. Isshin not only is one handing a spear, but he is also jumping around with it while also swapping to his sword in between. Owl also has a pretty large sized sword as well that he is acrobatically jumping around with as well, very effortlessly. Both are amazing characters.
Nice display. It seems like overall owl just has a way better moveset than isshin. Isshin hot saved by his 3rd bar and his *poise* . Like for real isshin tanked through most attacks especially in phase 1 while owl got staggered by every gust of wind.
well, it might be explained by the fact that the owl is a shinobi and Isshin is a samurai and the way thay have been fighting throughout their lives are different, therefore Isshin is sturdier
@@toten_kopf9770 No.... it's uh.. "In her farther" lmao Since the "length of the sword" comes into play in the joke, and the misspelling of father as farther comes into play too. Tf that dude thinkin bout?
Owls size,speed and range with his huge sword really negated alot of what isshin does. His spear usually has a range advantage but owls sword his just as big.
It's amazing despite boss AIs were only meant for fighting sekiro they can still react to other sources of attacks like another boss AIs' range and melee attack and dodge.
Owl is a trickster in his fight relying on gadgets and dirty strategies to finish off wolf while Isshin is a master of the sword who relys on nothing but his own strength and skills to combat Wolf. Seeing these to contestant bosses fighting each other is like seeing Loki fight Thor.
@@kerritarian4945 Isshins style ist "win at all costs" so he uses every type of strategy he could use as a samurai, meanwhile Owl just uses every direty trick to win at all costs.
It’s all opinion but I feel this is proof owl is the harder boss. The only reason he lost ishin third phase is because he isn’t programmed for lightning reversal. And in my experience his third health bar is the easiest due to lightning reversal
It's cool that Owl can get the electrocution status effect cause there's no reason for them to program that into a fight where lightning isn't a concern. Cool detail.
In fairness I believe they just programmed that into all enemies, it would likely be difficult to individually code which enemies could be inflicted statuses instead of just coding the ones that cannot
@@kingbred01 Owl murders Genichiro with his own Black Mortal Blade, and considering Owl should be able to Mist Raven that lightning and Mikiri Isshin's spear thrusts, the fight should be a lot more lopsided in Owl's favor
@@VeryCabbage the owl that got the black mortal blade was older and in turn weaker than the owl father variant now if you gave owl father the black mortal blade then I think him and isshin would be equal since it’s the only way to kill an immortal
interesting how enemies from fights that would never involve any lightning in the regular gamed are still shockable. would be awesome if some future DLC (possibly related to Tomoe) would include a lightning prosthetic or skill
@@loomingmoon4682 Yes, the new movesets made Inner Father even more aggressive; whirlwind slash, feather slash, two new combos and a vertical bird strike. Compared to that, Inner Isshin only got Empowered Mortal Draw and two new combos. Inner Isshin does have cooler movesets, but I wish they had changed his spear into his fire katana and made his fire attacks - including One Mind - even more dangerous.
I noticed that Inner Father is like our Sekiro, he use the same abilities and prosthetic tools, thats cool in the father/son relationship between Owl and Wolf
It's also because he is a shinobi. Like how Butterfly had her knives and illusions. Sculptor had an axe. And kingfisher had their whistling ring. While all shinobi have secondary tools it makes sense for owl to have the most as he is considered a master shinobi
you actually can mimic almost all of owl's attacks, fire crackers, shurikens and the mist raven, combite that with different combat arts and you are playing like owl
I think isshin moves are more pragmatic. Owl dodges and shinobi tools more like variative to me. They have their own advantage, 'cause they are like different as lore. Shinobi and samurai (idk what he's called)
@@rakshithanand8262 he also delays his ashina cross if youre too far and he has a new swipe that can be followed up by a mikiri-able thrust or vertical swipe
@@ignisspiritustenebris7137 Yes, but neither move really makes that much of an impact. If you are successfully fighting Isshin, you already know the jump and mikiri timings. Worst case it catches you off guard once. Boss vs Boss, they don't do enough damage to be considered imo.
In Elden Ring I want the ability to see other mini or main bosses fight each other with specific move sets. Like if the boss has arcane or magical abilities and curses, bigger smaller body size unique weapons/abilities I want i.e. boss/mini boss to be able to see and develop/makeup something up to fight the boss and try to beat the boss like how players adapt, overpower, or cheese bosses and mini bosses. If you understand what in trying to say you could simplify it to other people.
Im disappointed that inner father isn't using the mikiri counter like what he does in the actual fight against Sekiro. There were so many opportunities
Man, so Dad pull outs his prime to combat this cheating bastard who calls himself the Sword Saint who, out of nowhere, draws a spear, a gun and a lightning bolt to counter Dad's ninjutsu.
Actually, Isshin's AI not programmed to fight in this place. And if Isshin was lore accurate, he would easily beat owl. I believe, in game devs nerfed Isshin and he is not lore accurate in game
