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@skyjlv
@skyjlv 23 дня назад
She's good not exactly with the buff values nor just the HP values (still really good HP buff), but mainly due to her skill cooldown reduction effectiveness. The s2 Attack Damage increase is a straight up % increase to units that don't have those self Attack Damage Increase buffs (which is also one of the main good things what makes D:KW good even on units that don't have pierce). Rouge Buffing HP is definitely icing on top and does open up more team building in the future. She gets put above Dorothy & Volume in terms solo raid priority as B1 CDR and that alone makes it worth (should last a good while). If we get another CDR B1, likely Dorothy/Volume gets the axe next before Rouge. This is great for solo raid team building (minmaxing perspective). She's not replacing Liter though and D:KW for pierce in terms of buff value provided. But again, she'll open up HP teams more and should be better than Volume. And right now (before Rouge release), Volume is valued "3rd" b1 simply just because she has good CDR. Opening up Blanc from Noir also is another option as now we can put in 3 DPS setup. There's a lot more 'high level' things that Rouge provides to the roster & teambuilding that isn't as apparent if you just look at her skills at face value. Not everything is just about the amount of buffs she provides but this is more in consideration of 'compared to everyone else in the roster'. If we're looking at one team, she doesn't seem great and would not replace Liter/D for B1 to our traditional DPS. But if we start looking into Solo Raid Team Building 5 teams, then she opens up a whole lot more possibilities. Overall I like her for solo raid team building and would recommend. If you don't care about solo raid, maybe not so much. This is still not the B1 CDR Healer that I'm looking for... Anyways I'll be gone for a bit for vacation, I have some VIDEOS LINED UP so be sure to SUBSCRIBE TO CATCH THEM. I'll be live when I get back at twitch so follow now and see you guys later! www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/
@vbun4662
@vbun4662 23 дня назад
Maybe she'll synergize well with Cinderella. The HP thing isn't used on a lot of units so I'd like to see it on a strong meta unit in the future and who better than the tankiest and strongest Nikke in the lore.
@edelbrock443
@edelbrock443 23 дня назад
I've been thinking that if Cinderella is a Defender (which I think is very likely given her lore and boss), she would need HP scaling to be a DPS. High health is also way better than high defense on tanks. Possible she can get stronger and tankier with less health.
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 23 дня назад
​@@edelbrock443 interesting. Her lore seems to me to favor attacker overwhelmingly. Her introduction to the story was essentially a super powered peice of artillery that was gonna let humanity blow the raptures away and pave the way to kill the queen. Then when she gets corrupted she singlehandedly annihalates the battlefeild and forces a retreat. None of that lore screams defender to me. She may be, but we did also just get a defender pilgrim for half anni.
@skyhight3
@skyhight3 23 дня назад
So many people don't realize how much value she has just from being a B1 20s with CDR, the fact that she has 2 dmg buffs(even if they are small) and defensive utility make her even better. I was struggling with making team 4 and 5 bc of the B1 slot, she will make my life much easier.
@Simon_Denmark
@Simon_Denmark 20 дней назад
There's so many B1 CDR units already though. B2 would have been way better.
@skyhight3
@skyhight3 20 дней назад
@@Simon_Denmark Liter, Dwife, Volume, Dorothy, and now Rouge, we need 5 teams for solo raid, this is not many, in contrasts we have a lot of good B2 buffers, that sometimes are hard to use bc you need to add a CDR unit somewhere. The only team that works well without CDR is the shotgun team.
@Simon_Denmark
@Simon_Denmark 20 дней назад
@@skyhight3 You’re missing Sakura but yeah. My main point is that it would be great if you could use other B1 units too especially Exia now, would have been perfect with her. But tbh there isn’t that many other B1 units that I would really like to use. You can do things like Mast and Rogue with 2B or Guillotine now. I haven’t even invested into shotgun myself because of literal months of resources just for SR really.
@Simon_Denmark
@Simon_Denmark 20 дней назад
@@skyhight3 I was kind of looking for a Rouge, Exia, S.Anis, Scarlet or Guillotine and Privaty team. xD
@skyhight3
@skyhight3 20 дней назад
Sakura has a 40sec burst, at that point it doesn't matter, since you are using 2 B1, is not going to be different than adding dolla to a team just for the CDR
@YouTubeDweller8008
@YouTubeDweller8008 23 дня назад
Uh oh. People will have to figure things out for themselves while you're gone. It's gonna be chaos!!!
@hips2862
@hips2862 23 дня назад
Sky's gonna come home, relaxed and refreshed, only to discover we've somehow set our computers on fire in his absence
@SSY90
@SSY90 23 дня назад
It'll be fine, everyone will remain calm and use common sense
@delyanstalev9306
@delyanstalev9306 21 день назад
@@SSY90 Yeah, we gacha players are known to be calm and rational beings, surely nothing will go wrong when we are left to our own devices :D
@andreicosta9158
@andreicosta9158 21 день назад
I'm 2B copium team, I knew this day was coming, my 2B is returning
@BushidoBoyd
@BushidoBoyd 19 дней назад
i'm still over here hoping for A2 to be useable
@AlaanxGalneryus
@AlaanxGalneryus 9 дней назад
same, Mast and 2B copium team is always in my raids.
@jdee6809
@jdee6809 23 дня назад
usual meta comp will get shaken by Rouge fr fr
@skyjlv
@skyjlv 23 дня назад
This is what I'm looking forward a lot for tbh. It looks like a nice new set of team combinations for Solo Raid
@Links-ghost
@Links-ghost 23 дня назад
Tbh I was kinda disappointed at first looking at the buffs themselves, since HP is so niche right now and the attack damage and attack percentage is so small. Also the damage reduction seemed kinda whatever. So this reception was more positive than I expected. The way I was looking at it was this: If her buffs aren't noticeably more impactful, then at most she'd kick out one of the weaker B1 CDR without noticeably improving the teams. Since we have 4 cdr + Tove, her value would be determined by how much better she is at buffing than Volume/Dorothy (tbh I thought it'd be Volume). What surprises me is that the value of the 7 second CDR itself is so great that she gets put above Doro and Volume on that alone, despite not doing all that much for the current top dps. DKW does CDR the same way, but she also happens to buff some of the best dps in the game in Alice and RH. I always assumed that that was the bigger factor for why she was rated so highly. At least for SR. In campaign the value of better CDR is a lot more apparent. Actually come to think of it I'm in an electric weak stage in hard campaign at the moment. She might be better than DKW there... Anyway she's definitely coming at a bad time. I haven't even gotten Rei yet... Edit: I kinda ignored future value in my analysis but that's also something to consider I guess. You never know when SU will give us the payoffs for these things lol
@NonJohns
@NonJohns 23 дня назад
Yeah he talks about it in the Livestream, but DkW has actually been used over Liter in a couple of top teams BECAUSE of her style of CDR Since there isn't a need to snowball the CDR, you don't miss 1 burst like liter does and apparently even if she didn't buff, that's better than liter so that's why he's saying she's so good because that style of CDR is really potent in itself
@Links-ghost
@Links-ghost 23 дня назад
@@NonJohns That is interesting. I'd actually love to see that quantified, though it'd probably need to be done by someone with a better gaming chair than me lol
@skyjlv
@skyjlv 23 дня назад
DkW cdr is a minmax playstyle. It's not generally noticed by players because most don't minmax the movement that much. Sometimes the boss phase QTE 'neutralizes' the advantage that D had over liter especially if you do the QTE without any full burst on (so minmaxing QTE movement is also huge actually). But sometimes missing 1-5 seconds of burst rotation due to messing up QTE delay/burst timing is already a reset point for rankers. You'd be surprised at how much extra tens or hundreds of mil of points you can get by just minmaxing your rotation on the 1st/highest DPS team. Sometimes it's worth the effort to get that extra burst on the 1st team that would make up for your team 4/5's bad damage. I wouldn't say that D doesn't have to buff and still be better than liter lol. Their buffs are good at different comps still and D and Liter can be roughly similar in effect/buff depending on team comps / boss.
@MHKyo1132
@MHKyo1132 23 дня назад
commenting for the algorithm keep it up man, enjoyed chilling in the stream and enjoy your vacation!
@matrix3509
@matrix3509 22 дня назад
Anything that adds more thinking about the position of different characters on the team is a plus in my book.
@tarta5844
@tarta5844 23 дня назад
She basically buffs the same amount as D but without the Pierce, with that alone she is a really good unit for buffing specially when there arent that much bonus damage or the team needs balancing the buffs (for example with blanc). But finally another B1 CDR with a easy to use kit
@Emiya_shirou01
@Emiya_shirou01 23 дня назад
Thanks for the upload sky......Have a happy vacation!!!!
@gamegenieny581
@gamegenieny581 23 дня назад
Was considering skipping for anniversary, not now ! Thanks sky ! Also I expect we know who'll be a part of the next bunny event with a bunny skin.....😀
@bobgren2767
@bobgren2767 23 дня назад
I still plan on skipping. She's great, but the next few months are tough between Anni, Winter, and New Years.
@inuasha1991
@inuasha1991 23 дня назад
I think Rouge is going to be a huge buffer for original Scarlet. Not only because she's electric (You can keep the elemental consistency), but Scarlet does more damage based off missing health. So if you keep buffing up her max hp, not healing, it's the original Mast vibe. Then you can also ensure Scarlet gets the buff by putting her in the correct position for additional damage and damage reduction. Also, she'll be good with 2B as well.
@inuasha1991
@inuasha1991 23 дня назад
Commented before finishing the vid x'D but I'd still be willing to make use of my drunk scarlet.
@laurifer2667
@laurifer2667 23 дня назад
eh, scarlet only gets crit rate and a little bit of crit damage if below 50% HP, and crit sucks in general.
@Yattayatta
@Yattayatta 23 дня назад
Thanks for the video! good information, I'll pull for sure, maybe MLB depending on what comes after. Still need some more tickets for the 2 year anni.
@BruhhMeBruhh
@BruhhMeBruhh 23 дня назад
Surely SU is cooking up the next unit that will synergize with Rouge ᐛ
@Cyberchase
@Cyberchase 23 дня назад
12:04 “100% get this unit” *cries in poor bc collab*
@ShadowAngelS2K
@ShadowAngelS2K 23 дня назад
The HP buff makes you super tanky and it buffs Blanc’s healing
@immune6220
@immune6220 23 дня назад
I think she + blanc will work great without noir and you can use it with dps that dont really need max ammo recovery
@Acatia2
@Acatia2 23 дня назад
Oh shoot, I guess I should have looked here for Coop players too. We've lost some from our team so it's been trickier to hit top 1% with randos. But yeah, I'm glad Rouge can elevate the already strong electric team, revive 2B/buff Kilo, and doesn't inherently need to be integrated to the bunnies/kick Noir out. While collab characters aren't the most popular, I think we'd all be happy to run 2B again.
@nightismonochrome
@nightismonochrome 23 дня назад
Is it time for Isabel Sonic Chaser? Lol Honestly I've tried pairing her with Mast, Volume, and 2B to get as many 2B bursts as possible, but its still just not worth it at the moment. Single DPS teams just don't perform as well as 2DPS or 3DPS at the moment, but if you're just starting out and don't have full teams yet it's still something to consider. Heck, Modernia was a solo dps for me for some time (Miranda, Novel, Helm, Maxwell for buffs). If you're free to play, I'd probably save for pilgrim releases, but DEFINITELY add her to your wishlist for basic recruits.
@pierro9119
@pierro9119 23 дня назад
Have a nice vacation ! 😉
@hy1804-d9b
@hy1804-d9b 23 дня назад
i think her burst skill is different in jp or kr. there is one sentence without the word max hp 'only'
@PetiteLittleT
@PetiteLittleT 23 дня назад
Have a safe trip
@someguy6152
@someguy6152 20 дней назад
I'm sure it's super inefficient, but I think Rouge opens the door for for a single 40s Burst 3, with both Killer.D and Rouge, you can loop your strongest burst 3 At least for none raid content it's could be really good.
@garyscott9328
@garyscott9328 23 дня назад
finally a good b1 for my tetra team i was stuck with rei
@AppleFrogTomatoFace
@AppleFrogTomatoFace 23 дня назад
i personally think doro+crown+privaty is better than any volume team. tho later they release a nikke with crit dam increase like few hundred percent, then i think volume will be top tier. lol
@UGAlawdawg
@UGAlawdawg 23 дня назад
Have a good vacation. When you get back do you think you could maybe do a SG team for dummies guide? I finally got all the Nikkes I need for the team, but I’m not sure where to start on building it out. Like, should I focus on leveling Tove, Leona or B. Soda first? Or all 3 at the same time. You mention bunnies SG team, can I just use my already built out bunnies as a base for SG and just build from there? I’m FTP/min spend so I don’t have a lot of skill books to throw around.
@skyjlv
@skyjlv 23 дня назад
Tove and B.Soda are core of SG Team. Leona isn't a big deal since you can use SG Bunnies (although a bit worried on the Rouge entrance) but Leona is replaceable (I used S.Rosanna on my alt instead of Leona). There's an SG guide you can refer Tove and B.Soda build here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f2pd6rDgGxE.html
@Larknok1
@Larknok1 19 дней назад
How do we feel about Exia + Rouge on electric team? Burst with Exia, use Rouge for CDR and extra buffing on S.Anis + Ein?
@YoyoPlayer8
@YoyoPlayer8 23 дня назад
2B back to the meta lets fucking goooo
@domothebro2435
@domothebro2435 22 дня назад
My fully invested 2b is hungry and waiting
@stuckerfan2563
@stuckerfan2563 23 дня назад
Guillotine favorite item when
@noobs2themAx
@noobs2themAx 23 дня назад
Fly free and fly high sky... RIP
@niajef
@niajef 23 дня назад
i think if u have enough units for 5 teams, rouge is 100% replacing noir, cuz 90% of noir is for blanc cd, her buffs are mediocre, and her dmg is trash for a b3. so ideally u have rouge and blanc for the real bunnies team, and leave noir to buff shotgun team without bursting her, giving other sg ammo and atk buffs, and contribute a bit of dmg as well.
@dennisdude9139
@dennisdude9139 23 дня назад
missing out on 2b is rough
@YouTubeDweller8008
@YouTubeDweller8008 23 дня назад
it's alright at least you're here now that Nikke has become Normie approved
@niajef
@niajef 23 дня назад
wait ur coming to canada for vacation?? where u going? i know probably banff or something, but if u coming to toronto, can we meet up for a pic?
@cowsmoon8686
@cowsmoon8686 23 дня назад
Though pretty good I find it hard to imagine them being better than liter/D:KW in almost all situations. The damage buffs aren’t as wide ranging as Liter nor buffing the top dps sniper units as D:KW. Instead they have a wide variety of meh attack buffs and assist hp scaling attackers who are at this time rather mid. Another thing is rogue will set off blanc’s buffs but feels like it steps into blancs territory somewhat which will dilute there collective buffs. Main thing is whether or not swapping liter for rouge in the bunnies comp to also swap noir for a more effective dps will be more worth while. In solo raid they’ll help with more team comps and it’s nice to swap volume in tetra tower but in most other situations they seem like their not quite reaching top b1 level.
@vincefeld6442
@vincefeld6442 23 дня назад
really want cindy to be broken B1 unit, especially if she synergize with crown to drop naga and have 3 B3 dps
@beerus8564
@beerus8564 23 дня назад
so if i get this right the positioning for Rouge in the electric team would be "Crown Exia Ein Rouge Summer Anis" with how her skill 2 works?
@NonJohns
@NonJohns 23 дня назад
yeah 135 24
@tsundero
@tsundero 23 дня назад
INSANE
@nimitz1156
@nimitz1156 23 дня назад
Is she really a must pull that has to be pulled on day one?
@FadedKai
@FadedKai 23 дня назад
Hey look an actual SSS looking unit, still want to see testing tho.
@zemisushi7241
@zemisushi7241 23 дня назад
one copy only?
@stevenxenoknight3845
@stevenxenoknight3845 23 дня назад
And explain again how this would only be marginally good for guillotine.
@Hiarin
@Hiarin 23 дня назад
that's a lot of HP
@KiloXone
@KiloXone 22 дня назад
Won't she be OP with Mast and 2b??
@AbdulB
@AbdulB 23 дня назад
Those of us that don’t have 2b demand a 2b rerun. Skin included!!!😡
@YouTubeDweller8008
@YouTubeDweller8008 23 дня назад
I guess ur gonna keep demanding then. Make sure you keep "skipping until anniv" like usual though. 🤣🤣
@NonJohns
@NonJohns 23 дня назад
me too even though I have her I want the core 7!!!
@goldendemon8258
@goldendemon8258 23 дня назад
I would like an event rerun too bc I was f2p when chainsaw man ran its course and didn’t get either power or makima but core breaking 2b and a2 would be lit
@AbdulB
@AbdulB 23 дня назад
@@RU-vidDweller8008 I didn’t skip anything. I wasn’t playing the game then. I started at ludmilla. Never got a chance to get her
@YouTubeDweller8008
@YouTubeDweller8008 23 дня назад
@@AbdulB ... Oh, another normie. 😒 Never mind, thought you were an actual player of Nikke. Good luck.
@50402119
@50402119 23 дня назад
kilo fully benifit from rogue's buff right althought not meta
@NonJohns
@NonJohns 23 дня назад
yes Kilo isn't meta because she naturally has too low numbers, a situational AOE burst, and the shield mechanic is very conditional but yes Max HP is good for Kilo
@Simon_Denmark
@Simon_Denmark 20 дней назад
There's only two B2 CDR units and now six B1 CDR units. Rouge should've been B2 tbh.
@KingPuresol
@KingPuresol 23 дня назад
Is Rogue good for 2B?
@parmelo
@parmelo 23 дня назад
Can I use her with Elegg in the 2B team?
@skyjlv
@skyjlv 23 дня назад
actually a good/decent combo so it's not too much HP buff coming from Rouge+Mast... But the issue is finding another Distributed Damage + HP scaling unit..
@NonJohns
@NonJohns 23 дня назад
CINDERELLA PLEASE BE DISTRIBUTED DAMAGE I NEED MY BOOM WIFE AND 2D WIFE ON A TEAM
@stuckerfan2563
@stuckerfan2563 23 дня назад
Imagine if guillotine gets a favorite item that increases the attack and attack damage she does
@lantizzz
@lantizzz 23 дня назад
I love Crow!!!
@alexkarassavidis3023
@alexkarassavidis3023 21 день назад
Leave my girl Dorothy alone. She's had a rough go of things.
@killerwill
@killerwill 23 дня назад
2B Meta!!!!
@WeLoveWeeter
@WeLoveWeeter 23 дня назад
It's almost certain at this point that Cinderella/Anni unit will scale off HP.
@komura36
@komura36 23 дня назад
SU giving too much love for Tetra, Elysion still left behind. Enjoy your trip
@nikko7345
@nikko7345 23 дня назад
Nier rerun incoming surely
@vincentwolf1456
@vincentwolf1456 23 дня назад
Ughhh.... Screw this, why so many new characters and why most of them have to be good, what is this bs... I need to save for anni...
@BigBoyz33
@BigBoyz33 23 дня назад
just keep saving for the anniversary, u can wishlist Rouge
@stevenxenoknight3845
@stevenxenoknight3845 23 дня назад
What in the world is he talking about that litter is actually bad for burst rotation. There has to be a real class on meta combat because that comment made absolutely no sense to me.
@maciej3262
@maciej3262 23 дня назад
Liter reduce Cooldown only for 2s during first rotation, then 5s for next and finally 8s for third , while Rouge and DKW reduce it 7s for first rotation onward. That mean that if you can generate burst quickly you are losing about 7s total of burst from first rotations with Liter which could mean that you miss one full burst during fight.
@user-nikkebot
@user-nikkebot 23 дня назад
i got d killer before liter, when i finally got liter i realized that liter CDR is too low and SMG is not a good for burst filling
@nightismonochrome
@nightismonochrome 23 дня назад
Was looking for this comment. I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt and just say it was poor word choice in the heat of the moment (somehow). Liter isn't bad. There are simply faster options for teams that can generate burst that fast. Saying "Liter is bad for burst rotation" is a terrible take. "Isabelle is bad for burst rotation", now that actually makes sense.
@yogandi8922
@yogandi8922 23 дня назад
Another Tetra unit unfortunately
@medes1062
@medes1062 22 дня назад
She is trash. But she could be the start of something new in Nikke, which most players will not be willing to gamble on.
@mrcaos999
@mrcaos999 23 дня назад
I think the couldown reductions gets over valued. Yeah its nice and all... BUT she is basicly a brick in your team. All her other effects are really really bad and only useable in very long fights. Something you most time want to avoid. She not even heals HP, so you need a second heal unit to make use of her properly. People also kind of overlook the requirements here and think: "I can burst all the time." No you can't! First of all you need also enough burst generation in your team to make use of it. Meaning likely yet another support. Second she needs to full charge shots and her amount of Ammo and charge time is just long enough to be annoying and need a lot of OL gear stats to fix this! Having more burst is nice and all... But she pays a big price for it compared to other supports that also boost the burst. Only in most optimal scenarious where you have all the gear for her and the perfect team that can ignore her shortcomings will she be useful. I bet and I'm quite sure with this. That she will fall flat in testing. I would recommend people to wishlist her and rather save for the Annivesary unit that surely will powercreep one meta spot.
@daelionmr4782
@daelionmr4782 23 дня назад
She can be still useful for ppl like me who doesn't have all of the B1 CDR Nikkes. In my case its Killer D who I'm still missing cause I've failed to pull her during her banner event 'not for the lack of trying, just had a bad streak at the time' and that damned wishlist refuses to help me out ever since so no I won't rely on that alone.. 'shes literally the only NiKke I'm missing in the game who I actually want/need to have' I guess I will try to pull 1 copy and see how that goes. 'Got 600+ Mileage tickets saved up for the Anniversary anyway'
@lunanueva-y3k
@lunanueva-y3k 23 дня назад
Only useable in long fight? But all hard content where you need meta characters are long fight, If you can clear stage in 30 sec it's mean that stage is very easy for your account... You can use any b1 at that point. Top rank solo raid player sometime use Volume in one of their team, Rogue obviously the upgrade of Volume. She is already have a spot for solo raid team, worst case team 5.
@evil_slime
@evil_slime 23 дня назад
Yup, this is really easy skip
@pjeffreypwong
@pjeffreypwong 23 дня назад
We get instant burst fill with any sniper or RL. So, an easy top tier must have if you care about solo raid, an easy waitlist if you don’t and only care about campaign.
@xxhopexx2002
@xxhopexx2002 23 дня назад
Blanc heals so yeah she’s the second heal unit...not that I care whether she’s meta or not, I’m pulling her cause 777 is my top favorite squad 😌
@Arc_Soma2639
@Arc_Soma2639 23 дня назад
I hate how everyone is hyped for this... trash, I see you love her because of enabling more teams for solo raid? there are way more categories, PVP, Campaing, Interception, etc... I hate how everyone loses their head for CDR, if you don't have enough burst generation CDR get lost, she is trash that heals nothing, only max hp for characters like 2B that almost no new player from two months ago have, god, I'm angry.
@medes1062
@medes1062 22 дня назад
I think you might be right. But surely they will do something about this (adding characters that complement this HP buff thing).
@jupyterkin
@jupyterkin 21 день назад
This is a channel focused on solo raiding. It is obvious that he would find a character that is good at solo raiding to be... good...
@idkwayta1722
@idkwayta1722 20 дней назад
@@jupyterkin It is more like solo raid is the only exciting content at the moment campaign is only a matter of time (same for tower and Interception) PvP is not fun that's it
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