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@@larrydeanpickering5085 i did too, the robots just fell into action as they always do, they delivered him in fantastic position at the goat path and the rest was on Primoz.
I think he means he would have ridden most of the climb at a slower pace but the attacks - first by Sivakov and mostly the second by the long solo run of Felix Gall forced him to go to the front and chase both down as he knew only he could do it.
Gee's Primoz your allowed to ask them to slow down if the teams going too fast in the heat... He saying he accidently won as he didn't know the teams strategy... Really???
@@epincion He says 'to go so hard or to control for the victory' so he is clearly talking about his own team. He is a bit tongue-in-cheek and hard to pin down in interviews so I doubt they actually made a decision on their own.
I rode it today, didnt stop once but wrecked me. I got up it on a 34 x 30 but grinding, was so steep. I would say angliru harder. I wouldnt have got up angliru but today i did get up the dirt track, though hellish
But I really feel like he could do well in this vuelta GC. His tt was a bit less catastrophic than the usual ones which indicates that he is in excellent form
Not easy being a millennial fighting against all those Gen Z youngsters firing at you. I appreciate Roglic more and more even though he is not at his peak anymore. Winning Vuelta at this stage of his career would simply be an amazing achievement.
@@iann23 Didn't know millenials are one entity that feels about Gen Z that way, according to you also one entity. Maybe stop making stupid sweeping statements like this.
Here is where Rogla has the edge, first stop the ride on computer after finish pedaling, then eventually celebrate. Would never have problem with early celebration 😀
Agree...Really Primoz... You don't remember the team meeting where it was agreed the team would take the initiative and guide peleton to last climthen you do your best to win? Don't rember it? ... Ohhh ok... More coffee for Primoz
Roglic most definitely had me fooled (and many others I guess)........this climb should have been an absolute menace to his back but he was in total control.....we have a winner for this Vuelta if nothing happens to him!!!
@@youngloudandscotty did you perhaps notice that after the 3km steep section it flattened off and nobody was working with Rog so of coarse other would come back. If that that steep section kept going nobody would have returned.
Nice to see Roglic back on top and always a pleasure to hear his witty and unassuming comments, a nice change from his compatriot...Also nice to see some "normal" racing again !
Excellent observation that at the left turn onto the steep last 5km, both of the VLB GC riders were not in the position they should have been within the top 15 riders at the turn. However did it matter? Neither Sepp nor Cian could keep up with the surge of Sivakov and then the increased pace of the top 4 that was caused by the long solo attack of Felix Gall who in my opinion went too early. He could have held a podium if he had attacked a km later.
If he paced with roglic they drop everyone except Mas and mayyybe van eetvelt. I don't even think Almeida Comes fully back if they keep pacing regularly
I wonder why Roglic is racing so much better in the Vuelta than in the Tour - year after year! In the Tour he is often bad positioned and makes mistakes - here he is in the perfect spot and is reading the race perfectly. Big congratulations for that win!!!
@@Dr-bob1337 that's not my point; Roglic is riding much smarter and more intelligent, in the TdF he was always in the wrong position - and that had nothing to do with JV, RE and TP
Yes I get your point but I think it has to do with it. He rides smarter when there is no top guns around him. Probably a mental thing, he cannot deal with pressure like these guys.
@@Dr-bob1337 or he want the TdF to badly and is uptight... I also believe it is a mental thing. It's a shame, though 34 he is still strong and I think he is a really nice person - I would wish him a good TdF result...
Been thinking! Would it be easier on the riders and safer also if each team had a motorcycle in the race to carry fluids and food closer to the peloton. They could also be used to distribute as a mobile feed points rather than cause crashes from the side of the road.
Actually, it's a good idea. It would be much easier to the riders - no need to go back to the team car and then chase the peloton with all the cargo and no supplements area where we have seen so many stupid crashes. Good point 😊
It sounds like riders were worried about blowing up due to the heat, and that is why some of them didn't attack. Gall said afterwards that he felt his attack may have hurt him a bit, because he was overheating too early. I don't blame Mas too much for being passive here, as I don't think he can really gain much at this point in the race, but he can lose a lot if it backfires
It's all downhill in my ride to work which is nice, but then I have to climb for 30 minutes to get back home after I'm exhausted from working all day 😂
It's crazy how hard JV have fallen. 1 Kooij win in Giro, 1 Vingegaard win in TdF, and 1 Wout win in Vuelta, and that's it for the Grand Tours. They're already too far behind on GC to win, no way Kuss or Uijtdebroeks can gain that much time on a good Roglic or Almeida. Is it just all the falls during the season or is something else going on?
Losing roglic didn’t help and having both of your superstars have season defining crashes is always going to hamper a team a lot. Tbf they’re still 2nd in uci points it’s just hard to keep up with the uae super team. I wouldn’t say they’ve fallen that hard.
I like that the post-race interviewer (not sure of his name, he's also been doing the TdF for many years) often asks the winner to "talk us through the last few kms", because as a fan that's really interesting to me. But invariably the riders don't answer the question (like Primoz here), they just blab on about being grateful, or how good their legs are, or how well their team worked, or how hot it was, instead of giving us the tactical insights that the interviewer was trying to extract from them.
basically the climb is about 5% steep on average, but that includes flat parts, descents and an extended 3-4% section in the first two thirds, and then rampas inhumanas at the end. much harder than a climb that's 5% the whole way
It means a climb that is so irregular that the average stats of the climb are deceiving about it's difficulty. This final climb of the stage was 6.2% on average, but had multiple kilometers at 13%. Therefore, the 6.2% are fake news, the climb is much harder than it sounds.
Doesn't it look like Van Eeetvelt is coming extremely close to that camera in the finish? Or is that just due to perspective? But it almost looks like he was dodging that big video camera rather than celebrating. anyway, its a weird arm movement he does. But I doubt he'll ever celebrate before the finish line in a race ever again!
I dont see anyone capable of defeating Roglic. Almeida should go for stage wins he already has a 3rd Place at Giro. D Italia what does a podium at Vuelta help? I dont see him ever winning TDF unless he finds more and he is i think at his max. Its a real shame he is such a great rider. He does have a decent sprint. Only by being more audatious can he go up a notch. Aggressive attacking he has great fitness.
more a mental thing at that pace, as long as you can hold the wheel you keep your confidence and press on, if the wheels disappear in front of you while you are over the limit, that is when it gets hard to keep going.
No need to take away from roglic’s win. It’s not like almeida and Yates are just pogi’s domestiques. There’s probably one rider in the world who has a shot against pogacar so there’s no shame in being worse than him.
@@charlierennie9192 There is literally no people in the world who have a shot against pogacar which is clear as day. And yes Yates and Almeida are his domestiques no need to sugar coat it😅
@@Michael_J218 I mean vingegaard absolutely has a shot against pogacar. Can’t just discount the two tours he won over pogi. Also they’re not just his domestiques are they. The may have acted that way at the tour but Yates won Swiss this year and is a tour stage winner. Almeida has a giro podium. For most other teams they’d be their gc superstar and besides roglic is a level above them anyway.
@@charlierennie9192 he has no shot at all in reality. Pogacar needs to not be at 100% to be remotely close to him thats just the reality. silent now cba with mc donald workers go with your logic there with those fellows.
@@Michael_J218 I mean he absolutely has a shot. Pogi was at his best in 2022 and pretty much in 2023 and Jonas obviously wasn’t at his best this year with the crash that happened. I think pogi would’ve won anyway but winning two tours against him gives you the right to say you have a shot at beating him.
@@chrisko6439 Could? It would be a walk in the park. The only way it's not a walk in the park is if top form Vingegaard is there. There's Pog and JV miles above the rest, then there's Remco and Primoz and then Almeida.
