Inside Demon's Souls Remake on PS5: The Bluepoint Technology Breakdown 

Thank you man

not all heroes wear capes

Are you the gaming time stamps guy? I appreciate you

@@tech1238 I'm the back up of the back up of the back up of the back up; whose OCD sometimes kicks off. I'm glad I could help.

You're a god among men

it's probably still simplified, just not to the same degree

@@frogg4711 Agreed - However it seems to be on-the-fly simplification... and with that in mind they really walk that line quite well. Keeping it in-depth yet not giving away trade secrets and still making it interesting to listen to. Obviously it helps that Mr. Linneman understand and is familiar with the details of these technologies.

Still very simplified. These are glorified commercials, but its nice it includes devs dropping some light concepts and what worked and what didn't.

Like john said his not a developers,.. But his knowledge in tech is more deeper than any hardcore console and pc gamer out there...its really amazing how digital foundry had so much talent.. Gamingbolt is a wanna be digital foundry, i found out that gamingbolt is waiting for digital foundry to do the analysis first then they will copy 70% what digital foundry said what they found in the game... Gamingbolt has no credibility, as gaming analysis, they don't have the prove on their analysis, they dont even know how chekerboard rendering is... Digital foundry is the only legit gaming analysis on RU-vid

This is why I dislike these gaming 'news' channels that focus on hate mongering. They paint the whole gaming industry as this evil corporate cash cow when it's actually made of passionate people like these guys that love what they do.

Don't worry the fire department is on its way.

I see a heart coming soom

its so on fire now ign wants to copy them

Haha just like the Xbox’s allegedly

@@soodizzyy that’s why I say allegedly

It's true. It looks so good even 1440p looks like native 4k. It's insane. Barely a difference between the two modes visually. I'll still be checking out both modes to see what it actually looks like on my tv. Game looks unreal though..

Bare in mind you can't really tell the difference if watching on a phone screen. 60fps all the way for me too though.

@@mattyork7625 Performance mode is 1440p checkerboarded to 4k. its not a cheap upscaling from 1440. Checkerboard rendering is almost as good as DLSS.

@@chillis8267 No it's not.

@@chillis8267 Performance mode is 1800p (Dynamic 4K). There is no 1440p support on PS5.

Umbasa.

"so the world might be mended..."

I wonder if they are related to Timothy Dalton and Roger Moore. It's ironic they both share relation to James Bond in this interview

We have for 4 year of "I don't know where I am" and "Snifing Xi Jinping" ahead of us, cheers

I'll be mending the world on the 19th.... because Europe.

You mean disrespect.

@@MisterHeroman what do you mean disrespect it looks amazing

@@redseagaming7832 Only on a technical level. It's completely different from the original in terms of art design.

@@MisterHeroman good thing you can still just play the original

@@fenix_tx_1342 Too bad about the new one.

Omg you’re right

Nailed it.

IT reminds me of Deep Dawn, that old ps4 game that there only was one video and that was it.

@Shaman Xeed ... never beat Asylum Demon ...

@Shaman Xeed Hmmmmm okay...

Come on iiiiinnnnnn

Exactly how I feel. Demon Sould? Digital Foundry? 1hr long!? Sign me up.

Heck yes. Just need some whiskey and I'm all set

@@nawdawg4300 it's Demon's Shoulds*

And my axe!

This is why I'm excited for future games

Insomniac sid they haven’t even tapped PS5 Full potential as they are just scratching the surface Not to mention a Pro refresh is coming 3 years from now on and UE5 is releasing late 2021. Couple that with developing time take more than a year. We are in no hurry for graphics, everything is laid out clean on the road.

I can't wait til we see devs really using the geometry engine and getting the most out of it they can in the next few years. From everything I've read and heard that thing is the real heart of the PS5s GPU. Next gen only first party games releasing in 2023+ should be spectacular.

It doesn't just affect first party devs. Hardware compression for storage I/O is a feature of the new XBox and the newest DirectX standard on PC as well. The PS5 compression, as far as I know, is the most efficient, but all current gen platforms now have this feature, which is great news because that means that the way devs can think about world building changes drastically on all platforms.

@@lilyflower6265 imma have too find where they mentioned it I’m looking for it now

I don't think Dead Space even need a remake tbh. This game holds up so well even now on PC. And with reshading etc.. this looks even more impressive. There's just the texture that are lacking depth. But even then, Dead Space looks freaking good

Cant imagine original dead space even looking better

I'd sacrifice a whole mining colony for that!

Dead space with Ray tracing 😍

My favorite saga of all time, I hope in a future this happen :(

Hopefully it doesn’t cut too much into your uploading rare Tallica footage for us 😉 🤘🏽

So...... close

Sad

I've imported the asia version when Demon's Souls first got released and platinumed the us version later on. I love the game (more than the other souls games even) and to see it return in such a beautiful way is incredible. I luckily only have to wait 7 more days (if nothing goes wrong).

@Dylan Zammit Yeah me too.

@Shaman Xeed okay troll, you had your fun, leave now

@a hot diarrhea Your name is truly apt.

I mean yeah, but it does have hefty fps dips, from experience

@@brumbotumbus i have seen many playthroughts already and there has only been like couple places where fps dips a little, but thats it. Game runs fantastic in 60fps from what i have seen

@@palawolfy4855 it seems to only be when entering areas, my whole playthrough it didnt happen much

Wow, sounds amazing

Really? I was gettin fps dips quite a bit, mainly stonefang, and the tower knight fight was frame droppy too, 90 percent of the time its smooth

@@brumbotumbus i personally didn't notice them but it is possible

They have pretty bad motion blur.

No. There are some players who can't tell much of a difference between 30 & 60. Saying 30 is a slideshow is way to harsh even if it comes from the developer itself.

@@kresimirmandic3807 There are almost no players who can't tell the difference side-by-side. Anyone with two eyes has the capability to tell. 60 FPS is twice as smooth. And who exactly care that there's a percentage that can't immediately realize a difference or if some would prefer greater resolution or graphics? I never said framerate is universally preferred; it obviously isn't, which is exactly why Bluepoint's perspective should be more commonplace.

@@johndesper9425 the pc gaming community would like to have a word with you

@@bigboiariel The "PC gaming community" would have my back. And when I do game, I do use a PC.

you were right about the first one 👀

Hard works requires sleepless nights

They have multiple employees, plus some videos are already done just waiting for embargo lifting.

They have multiple employees in different time zones. When John is recording a video, Rich slumbers soundly on his side of the globe.

They don't

@@Oozaru85 lol what, rich is in the UK so is Tom, and Alex and John are both in Germany

Soon it won't be humans trying to not tank the system when making a game. Instead, it'll be humans trying to add so much that the system finally concedes.

I mean they had the entire last generation of consoles to learn parallel programming (and to an extend, the last-last generation as well, seeing how Bluepoint worked on some remasters for the PS3), yet the singlethreaded engine from FromSoft is still very much a bottleneck You have to look for a true complete rewrite to see the real potential of these new consoles

@@pipyakas unfortunately the real time interactive nature of games makes it harder to run things in parallel. It's not like you have the cell processor simulating fluid systems and sure, each particle could interact with each other and those could be parallelized. But with player input coming in to play as well as AI influencing environments, you can imagine how disruptions will be implemented / injected onto those parallel threads. That's tough since you're still going to have thread-locked resources still,and that's similar to having single-threaded applications.

@DoubleIntruder I would imagine though that multiple cores would be so much helpful with streaming and reading chat on a browser (in a pc). I could also imagine some of those cores in that 8-core zen2 are reserved for netcode and background tasks. I remember Watchdogs Legion implementing more sophisticated Ray tracing as well (reflections within reflections) that's more cpu-bound because they do those reflections on an interval rather than real-time (ie real-time to how the camera pans to a mirror or a reflective surface). That indicates to me that those are run in parallel rather than on the same high speed core. Tbh the camera is the real big culprit with these games not being able to run in multiple threads. I hope DF could make a video about how next gen games could be optimised more beyond your VRSs and your SSRs or cube maps. I love their episode where Alex Battaglia discussed how devs work on a time budget in Ray tracing in spider-man miles morales, describing further how every frame / millisecond count.

@DoubleIntruder You don't know what you're talking about. Just stop

nice

@Mr Glass Lol because of? I can’t visualize a scenario where he said something funny.

@@adnanmicahchips2842 Yep, i didn't understand eiher. That's not me taking a shot on Xbox, i do think Series X will be amazing in every way, including exclusives. They have a lot of interesting games in the working. This is just me praising what should be praised. The game looks amazing.

All kudos to bluepoint. From software didn't help on the remake.

@@pacogonzales5761 Fromsoftware made 95% of the work: level design, lore, story, enemies design, bosses, items, etc. Bluepoint did an amazing job remaking it, but Demon's Souls is a Fromsoftware game.

Exactly I can wait for miles morales can’t say the same for demon souls

@@MexiCooki same here, will wait for a price drop on Miles since it's so short

@@deskmanatee same it’s only 8 hours long

@@deskmanatee I'm gna have to wait a while for Demon Souls as well haha, gotta save up cash and i wanna see how the first wave of PS5's run.

I honestly read your statement as “this is the first nut I have for a PS5 exclusive”. Don’t ask why 😂😂

NVMe's pipeline is what DirectStorage uses and it's coming to PC. Think about loading Hollow Knight in milliseconds. 4K will get a monstrous boost on PC.

When I see the 30fps in the 60fps laid side-by-side I don't really see any difference I don't think we need 60fps because they both look the same

@@redseagaming7832go to 7:40 there's a massive difference there

@@redseagaming7832 Now that I'm thinking about it, are you even watching this video in 60 fps? Because the difference is night and day

@@redseagaming7832 you really blind you telling me you can’t see the difference between 60fps and 30fps it’s literally choppy

Yeah I think 60fps with still very high resolution is better than native 4K at 30fps. Especially since Demon's Souls doesn't have ray tracing to take away in Performance mode.

Yeah performance is the way. I didn't notice anything much better in cinematic that popped out immediately but the fps drop is definitely noticeable.

If this games does well(which will probably happen) sony should just buy bluepoint.

@@MexiCooki can you imagine Microsoft snatching them? That would be low

@@willinton06 Tbh both Microsoft and Sony should have 1 talented studio like BP dedicated to do remakes imo. They have a shit ton of dormant IPs.

@@willinton06 actually that would be sick. They could go through Microsoft’s catalogue and bring new life to dead franchises.

i can see bluepoint remaking a lot of old ps4 games in the future. demons souls is amazing which paves the way for a bloodborne remake. the second game from fromsoftware where sony holds the exclusive rights for

Hell yeah! Xbox was not my thing last gen, but so far everything by Sony and Microsoft looks fantastic! Great time to be a gamer!

Not buying either but happy for all.

I'm getting every next-gen consoles under the sun and a RTX 3090 X2 (it’ll only cost me a kidney)

rkgames me too, I’m considering it now. Purely based on their effort.

I’ve been playing this title on PS5 for about 4 hours now Kris & rkgames, and I can tell you it’s worth every single penny ♥️

@@blakecandesign9628 Awesome to hear! We are living in a golden age of gaming right now! awesome to see such quality out of these studios!

I think I will, too.

Same here I’m hyped

I replayed it last year on the RPCS3 emulator. It still holds up, so am really looking forward to getting it next week. It is my favourite souls game.

@FLProducer Glad you forgot 😉

Currently playing it for the first time on ps3. I'm glad my ps3 still works and my brother never sold his copy of demon souls I played and beat all from software games except for this one so I thought I owe it to myself to play it and that way I'm gonna really appreciate this remake from. Blue point even more!

Demons souls has. Different vibe to the other souls game, by far my favourite

fr!! I bought a PS5 for this game, what a treat

@@deskmanatee 😎👍👍

and I sat down & watched it all eventhough I'm not buying the system anytime soon

@@deskmanatee I bought a PS5 for this game as well! I’ve been playing it for 4 hours now, most of that time was spent on character creation. Love it! 😂

@@blakecandesign9628 Duuuude! My PS5 is in transit for delivery today, hopefully it arrives soon and I'll see yo' azz in Boletaria! 😆

@a hot diarrhea I can't imagine being so sad that you think somebody can get clout from a youtube comment. Lol

@@beefknuckles Not that high, as bluepoint shot themselves in the foot by missing a lot of the art direction.

@@MisterHeroman Did they fuck, the remake was outstanding.

​@@MisterHeroman art style and art direction isn't very important seeing as it depends on personal preference.

In what? Interviews?

@@Hfajardo97 There's a ton of people that have done this type of content since 2009. Don't bring up IGN they're literally bottom of the barrel garbage that can't even write their own articles and have to rip off other peoples work

@@rogerarteaga2665 in general, their content is so good, industry reference. I love how much fun they make technical content

@@Hfajardo97 I'm not going to research a damn thing for you. Look it up yourself there has been an assload of content creators and even PC enthusiasts that have done this type of work for fucking years. Digital Foundry falls under the same category of tech influencers and games. You act as if they're writing the bible here and are making history. Fucking relax. Not like they made or covered the NES or the Magnavox Odyssey.

@@Hfajardo97 NX gamer would be one. It’s a small RU-vidr, but he’s worth checking out

I NEED that kotor remake lol

Downhill domination remake please! I'd pay a 100 dollars for that

They're reportedly doing metal gear solid next, a second team is already on it and I guess these guys will join that team now

might be worth getting your ears cleaned because he did not say that xD

Lmao literally no one has ever said 30 fps was an "artistic choice". When people talk about the art direction in the original Demon's Souls or any other game they aren't claiming that 30 fps was an artistic merit, lol.

I still like 30 FPS maybe I'll be playing exclusively cinematic mode I don't think Demon Souls needs 60fps to be cool

I don't know but I like 30 fps than 60 fps. 60 fps is more than enough to my vision, I feel dizzy playing 60 fps games.

And they advertise it will run games on 4k 120 fps. Trust me most of the games are going to be 4k 30fps. And that is sad and false advertising

But the PS5 doesn't even support 1440p

@@aki-sid lol you don't know what you are on about

@@aki-sid It can render at any resolution. It can't display 1440p tho

Native 1440p/120 should be the sweet spot. Thats how its been on PC for years. Thats how it should be on next gen consoles. Instead they try pushing 4K, even tho they cant deliver native 4K at 60fps in most AAA games.

@@billygunn142 go ahead smartass tell me more

Honestly they don’t need to as bluepoint really don’t work for anybody else

@@TruTrae Insomniac said the same thing but eventually they realised it was beneficial to join Sony’s worldwide studios. I just think Bluepoint would be a perfect fit.

@@-Old-School-Gamer facts

I think Crystal dynamics still hold the rights to Legacy of Kane. Square Enix is forcing them to make crap like The Avengers game instead of focusing on tomb raider + legacy of kane :(

@@Jonnygunboy I still think a deal could be reached. At least I hope it could.

I'd say it's worse than the original.

@@MisterHeroman trolling much...

@@rjejames28 Sorry, no. It's a downgrade. It's better on a technical level, but there's just no heart and soul. Plus lots of needless liberties. Why'd they turn everything into Anor Londor?

Its all the somethings

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@Shaman Xeed Get Kundalinied fool. As i always tell the Profane

Killzone 3 multiplayer was the best of that generation

I just want GG to give us a new Killzone as good as those. Shadow fall while gorgeous, didn't have the same caliber of gameplay. As excited as I am for Horizon, I'd much prefer a new Killzone.

@@w1nch3ster1 I'd have to agree on a new KZ. I really liked Shadowfall, but KZ2 was the pinnacle of that series.

@@stankbuddha no it was kz2 mp that it’s best for that gen

Had so much fun in KZ2 Multiplayer..

that and vagrant story, chaos legion.

As much as I would love a Syphon Filter remake Konami owns the IP.

@@mappybc6097 what?no they don't. Sony owns Syphon filter🤣

@@mappybc6097 are you confusing Syphin Filter with Silent Hill?

@@umarabbasi7941 No. I wouldn't confuse a horror series with the only real competition metal gear had on the PS1. I seem to remember the studio doing SP closed after the Omega Strain and a Konami owned dev did Dark Mirror and Logan's shadow.

People with a clue like NXGamer or The Cerno have said this for months and months but it seems many don’t seem to understand the scope of that advancement on display here.

​@@kraenk12 I don't see how that is feasible though. The problem is the ssd, while blazing fast doesn't remotely compare to the bandwidth of the vram's 448/gb's transfer rate. There is no feasible way to stream textures of an ssd or even act like secondary vram. There is no way to load and unload assets in an "instant". It seems like its more of a faster way of preloading and streaming data, not a secondary vram as they're implying.

I don't see how that is feasible though. The problem is the ssd, while blazing fast doesn't remotely compare to the bandwidth of the vram's 448/gb's transfer rate. There is no feasible way to stream textures of an ssd or even act like secondary vram. There is no way to load and unload assets in an "instant". It seems like its more of a faster way of preloading and streaming data, not a secondary vram as they're implying.

@@richr161 yes it is like having a back up or partner to the ram. One of the most important elements in game visuals is asset quality (ie. texture resolution, geometry fidelity, asset diversity, etc.). Typically, the level of detail than can be loaded into a game is limited by the available memory in the RAM. Essentially meaning, even with the computing power to process the highest quality of visuals, the asset quality that can be loaded into a scene (or area) is still limited by the RAM size. As mentioned by Cerny, the SSD speed has been designed with the intention of enabling real time streaming of game assets in the players field of view. This 'Player FOV streaming approach' would be the most efficient way for developers to make games, as we no longer need to load the assets in an entire area, but instead, only what the player can see - allowing for the most level of detail. Now lets compare the pure streaming of data from the SSD of the PS5 against the Series X, (which has half the SSD speed) - in the context of the 'Player FOV streaming approach'. This means that double the amount of scene detail can be loaded in the same amount of time, and in theory, have double the scene detail within a players field of view. However, in reality, we still have to consider the RAM, meaning not all assets will be streamed from the SSD and therefore we can't say there will 'double the level of quality'. But what it will mean, is that developers have double the freedom when accessing data from the SSD. A developer can access more assets (or higher quality assets) without it being pre-loaded to the RAM first.

@@richr161 but essentially yes that what it does. It can make some assets instantly available that doesn’t even hit ram. So it’s like a secondary ram for high quality assets while the actual ram has other tasks.

they have nothing else to do except play and test games

@@rinkumultani6515 Do, you seriously think it's that easy? They have to do individual pixel counts, note down questions for interview, find the techniques they are using, note down FPS in similar conditions, editing footage, scripting commentary, other things like audio and anything else which you don't get to know about. Its also extremely impressive considering they are working from home and still collaborating.

Maybe 2 more by the days end

@@suyashsngh250 sounds easy

@@spenny2cents I would love to see your channel... Its gets monotonous seeing one channel, Digital Foundry. They have a monopoly on Console BEnchmarks

Lol

I was getting worried!

Lol 😆

Lol you crack me up! 🤣

Yes definitely. They said in the video it is intended for 60fps.

wait what?

yeah i agree. already looks fantastic in 60fps.. its not worth sacrificing 60fps when it already looks good at 60

This is the way.

Especially if you are on a 1080p tv.

Lmao same

Who needs ASMR when you have John videos? :)

I did that and was so worth it

That will be dope 👍🏻

Vagrant story! Now THAT is a good idea!

Yes!! Or even wild arms

Or legacy of Kain blood Omen blue point please Square Enix owns the rights talk to them blue point

@@Lanse1984 YES. Wild Arms Remake would be lit.

Yes yes yes!!! The Legend of the Dragoon is one of my all time favorite games!

Two games. Chrono Cross and Parasite Eve remakes from bluepoint and I would literally die from nerdgasm

You didn’t see Spiderman ?

@@tmpm441 Spidey trash

@@nombreapellido9462 haters going to hate

@@tmpm441 Spider man looks good, but Demons Souls better.

@@tmpm441 Spider-Man looks great but it doesn't look next gen, Spider-Man MM is cross gen game btw... so Demons Souls is literally the only next-generation game at the moment.

With what they did to DeS, they'd just turn it into an orange and blue Bloodborne clone.

I actually want to be surprised by the dual sense. You can tell most Demons Souls videos are staying away from it. Gotta leave some surprises here.

@@ThrillofTill or more probably is not really supported

@@spezialissimo No its supported Sony even had a AD about it.

@@ThrillofTill oh nice, is it used for bows and such?