Inside Hades - 3D Modeling & Rigging 

Agreed 100%

Yes please

I've been asking for it on their official twitter as well

is buy one yes yes

Yes!

I play on a 77 inch 4k TV. The art and detail is so stunning i stick to the PC version. I don't even bother playing it on my switch. Such a pretty game.

@@Nephron89 I was going to say something like that... I played at 4k as well on a 55 inch tv... it was large enough to catch a bunch of details.

Aren't the portraits animated? The ones showing when you speak to the characters? (Sorry I never played the game but I thought I saw screenshots)

@@LeneChibi Not really but they change to show expressions and stuff.

@@PainkillerDCXVI they do infact blink so a tiny bit is animated

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Nyx: I shall assert my dominance over the mortals.

That's a funny edit

There are a few good auto-riggers out there. I'm a recent graduate myself and while I'm interested in rigging, it does still scare me. Those auto-riggers help out a lot so riggers can just focus on good weights and customized controls.

I’m in the exact same boat as you! I’m going to be a senior and it’s really nice to know I’m comfortable with these terms and softwares.

Rigging is a nightmare if you do it from scratch but there are tools out there that automate the process for you. She mentioned "mGear" for Maya, and other programs like blender have their own version as well. Blender's is called "Rigify" and the only way to describe how it works is as black magic. You learn how to configure the thing, it does it does its 200iq thing, and then you have a wonderful rig to work with. The only work needed after that is a bit of weight painting to make sure everything deforms well enough, but some times that's not even necessary on simple characters.

this comment summarizes my entire animation degree lol

The little details can be hard to get right but that's part of the joy of it! (Or so we tell ourselves when we're banging our heads against one of those!)

I'm not a graphic artist, but a musician and.... yea, I think any endeavor like this is a labor of love, we'll say :)

@@supergiantgames i dont understand guys, why didnt use 3d model directly with isometric view? is it imposible or it cant achieve the art direction?

@@adroitws1367 Very hard to achieve in the art direction they went I assume, toon shaders on games normally don't look as nice as what you can fine tune in Maya or Blender before exporting to a 2d sheet

@@hopsys These aren't touched up (much) though. You'd only need to throw an outline shader on them, in theory. I expect keeping them detailed enough, skipping animation systems, and avoiding aliasing or other reasons.

we're all nyx here hun

I am definitely more of a Hypnos.

@@Prizzlesticks That's a mood XD

Does Chaos have a 3D model?

I’m Thanatos in that my boyfriend is a himbo and I feel and look done with everybody

That's an A-Pose mate

@@Janfon1 Well I learned something new today, then.

We use 3D renders so we can smoothly animate our characters from different angles! Though, Nyx usually likes to stay in her spot there.

@@supergiantgames What are the advantages of turning the 3D model back into a series of sprites for in-game, as opposed to just having the characters be 3D models in-game too?

@@Wiwiwab The less the camera moves, and the less the character moves, the more sense it makes to use sprites. In Hades the camera doesn't move at all, and being a hack&slash most characters have few enough animations to make rendering them in 3D a waste when a slightly animated picture will do. Arguably Zagreus is the only character in the game that might be worth actually rendering in 3D, as he has by far the most animations in the most different environments and circumstances.

@@supergiantgames How many frames do you take per action?

As people mentioned, pre-rendering gives better performance. This is important because it allows Supergiant to use HIGH QUALITY renders across ALL PLATFORMS. This means, for instance, Nyx looks pretty much the same on Switch, on a gaming PC, or on a laptop. Whereas with traditional 3D games, the textures used for 3D rendering (for instance) are usually lower resolution on lower-end platforms.

I know! It's like woah, I have a lot to learn!

Trust me, it would be way more tedious to draw every frame of every animation for every character _and_ enemy by hand while trying to mach the quality of these renders. Yes, it can be done, of course, but I'm 100% sure that is a masochists wet dream or someones eternal punishment down in Tartarus :)

@@SolantisA of course, but it's still a shame we can't view the nitty gritty of these models, especially since they're so well made

Well if Paige is basing her models off Jen she is pretty much a fan artist. And a top teir one too boot.

And cosplayers hehehehe

@@princessjello My thoughts exactly......... (intensely staring at her rotating the 3D model to figure out how that dress works and how I can make it)

That’s the power of Substance Painter!! You don’t realise the characters in game are all 3D because of the way they were painted by Paige!! ❤️

That was me 9 years ago in the Bastion

Same. I thought the characters and everything are hand-drawn, that's how good they are.

@@KoylTrane this must be why i have fallen in love with SGG's art style. Wish i could work there, but i do NOT have nearly enough experience to work with them.

@@adondriel Same here, but if we keep working at our skills maybe one day we'll be working on a SGG project! If the world doesn't end before that lol

I mean, she's basically t-posing in game too, except for like, one arm xD

We didn't consider 3D character portraits on this game since we love hand-painted ones, though someday, who knows? Some games have done an amazing job with stylized 3D character portraits that look virtually identical to their 2D counterparts, though with all the advantages you mention.

YES PLS! Her art is amazing

This would be incredible.

You seriously said such a pathetic thing? wow

@@velstorios9473 its a joke chill out. besides i would suck a fat one for beeing able to draw like jenzee so..

I'll get on my knees with you hahahaha Also, seriously thinking about asking him to draw me a personalized Hades tattoo, with Orpheus and Eurydice :p

It kind of hurts that so much work was put into the model and then you only see it from a mile away. It's similar to the Runescape models you see artists put on their page. They've made this beautiful model, and then it gets rendered in the Runescape engine and looks like arse. Not saying Hades looks like arse btw, that game is beautiful.

@@megatinystudio8111 i get what you mean. sometimes, in models, less is more. though the extra effort is always appreciated

I don't remember there being much dynamic engine lighting in the game outside of Zagreus' shadow. Many of the characters you talk to are in the House of Hades as well, and the lighting for that area stays pretty much static for the entire game. Characters in that area (like Nyx) also dont actively move around, so my guess is having the characters there be pre-rendered mainly decreases unnecessary load time and improves framerate, since those characters don't require real time shadows/shading.

My guess would be for performance. With prerendered sprites there's no runtime cost to additional detail in the model or texture (since the rendered image will be the same size regardless), but if it was all rendered in real time then it would significantly increase the hardware requirements of the game.