Inside Israel's Complicated "Whac-a-Mole" Dilemma: When the Solution Causes the Problem 

I know it may be obvious, but you never stated it's an adread or a sponsorship anywhere in the video or the description, and I think that might be breaking TOS or laws.

Love the Perun easteregg. But just to be clear, I love to watch both you guys and you are not really competition in my eyes.

PIA is great. But creators aren't allowed to say the main use case... Download whatever you want without letters from your ISP. Turn it on when you are torrenting.

Is this the first sponsorship? Cool. I hope this channel keeps growing.

Can I mail you my book to be signed by you please? Wil pay all shipping costs

Perun!!

I just hope that Perun and W. Spaniel will agree to devote their respective analytical takes to the Australian govt. or whatever democracies remain after the world's Bond-villain mega-billionaires succeed in their libertarian-LARPing fascist takeovers, and Peter "Paypal & Palantir" Thiel retreats to whatever bunker compound he manages to surreptitiously build in Kiwiland. Hopefully, Oz's military forces and MIC production and supply chains will withstand the pressures brought to bear by the geopolitical fracturing of the liberal democratic Free World and the dissolution of democracies (including in the US, if Trump or the GQP-T triumph in 2024), and Prof. Spaniel's lines-on-maps game theory approach will help whatever democracies remain to counter a Thiel-subverted Kiwiland both militarily and in diplomatic talks.

I thought the same thing!

I think it's more a case of talent recognizing talent. I can't be the only one who actively follows both creators. Also "Damn Emu Land" made my day.

So it's not a genuine Aus store chain?

Just play Cities Skylines

​@@AvoidTheCadavertrying to do efficient traffic management in City Skylines would probably turn people violent.

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Also the lightning bolt graphic: Perun is an ancient Slavic god of war and storms, much as ancient Canaan's Yahweh, eventually adopted by the Israelites.

@@MattBellzminionis that a joke is that real? That would make for a much deeper joke if true

@@Homer-OJ-Simpsonnot real

And what are roads but a form of line?

@@andreasottohansen7338all lines lead to Rome

Surprised I had to scroll so far in the comments to finally find someone else who got the reference/joke lol

Also know as the MacDonalds strategy.

@@maxpower3990slightly different but honestly same result

Manufacturing internal competition within a monopoly? That's actually pretty clever, in a corrupt way.

This is where Vulture Communism (TM) must come in: when a company becomes a (quasi) monopoly, just nationalize the bastards: now you have a well-built service for free and you also have solved the monopoly problem in the first place.

Depends, I live in scandinavia and we got a lot of refugees with a hostile attitude towards Americans, which might relate to the murder of their relatives, blowing up elderly women tends to piss people off😅

​@@ElenraiThe religious and political ideology that they follow causes them to be violent and aggressive to anyone else who is not exactly like they are. They have been doing this for about 1500 years and they have received the same aggression and violence in kind. All they have to do is stop following the violent practices their book tells them to follow And they will be just fine. You reap what you sow.

@@bulldog71ss33 You know the muslims in xinjiang have become more peaceful. May have something to do, that china purs trillions into the place, making sure, their muslim minorities get as good opportunities and perspectives as the rest. (xinjiang is 4 times the size of afghanistan, terrain wise about as bad to suppress a rebellion by military means). The US policy towards them always was: we back the government which gives us good business conditions, no matter if they are a brutal dictatorship. So people with no hope to be treated fairly are easy prey for the islamists. The US is reaping what they did saw. It's fairly simple: Help and Integration kills terrorism.

@@beyondEV China is committing a holocaust-level genocide in xinjiang...

I think refugees from Palestine should be resettled in an area without people in desert for a lease of 99 years. Where they can use the land to earn enough wealth to purchase the land, if they failed to do so, they would be sent to China for 10 dollars each.

And we should require votes to understand that decisions such as this are only seemingly done by a single person...

You get the politicians you vote for.

It’s the people not the politicians

Honestly we should require politicians to study

The issue is, these roles offer power and influence for the people that take them so they use that power and influence for personal gain.

Another option is to land bank. Buy the good locations and not build a store or anything. tbh, I don't know how it would apply, but think worth a mention here.

In economics terms this is called monopolistic competition

Not the coalition, but Netanyahu's care for his own political future. That is why the current coalition completely crushes in polls.

What do you mean? That policy worked amazingly with absolutely no foreseeable violence and death.

Israel dosnt fostered Hamas it just let him exist. Hamas is part of global radical muslim movement who called the muslim brothers. The palestinians in Gaza choose Hamas in 2005 Israel dont crown Hamas on them. Sure it benefit Israel when the Plo and Hamas fight themselve and not Israel. Plus Israel was underestimated Hamas danger and didn't think it was worth to risk hundreds soliders to eliminate it just for other hostile group will take control on Gaza instead of Hamas.

I feel like "competitor" is a misleading term. Israel and the PLO did not have to fight, and it wasn't an automatically true fact that Israel had to refuse the PLO's demands.

cool story bro

Yup, and Netanyahu was one of the biggest cheerleaders of this idea. Who knew at the time, that it would backfire into jeopardizing his entire political career.

A better place to correct is on wikipedia in that case. They also call it National Unity.

In English it would mean technocrat bureaucrat but Americans are distrustful of their government and Israelis generally are not. Maybe because Americans think the government is all powerful while Israelis think the government is filled with idiots

isreal all ways sucks in translatinh names @@0xCAFEF00D

as also a Hebrew speaker i just had this debate with my american father. and true there is no translation. but the meaning doe's also can include unity and honesty... it's basically being the oposite of the current Likud party witch are corrupt and dividing..

Baba ghanoush 😋

Blood

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lol I died laughing when Trump said Hummus instead of Hammas

@@Callieforniiaa I must say as an Aussie, Trump’s a character alright 😂

I shop with him at 2x speed, so I can by more groceries.

Very simple! It's because this one involves Jews.

I also wondered... I think it is..

Seeing to typo used, it clearly is

Jajajajaj it is

Yes it was, and Perun had a lines on maps reference!

@@deborahferguson1163 I never miss a Perun video. It's required Sunday afternoon viewing for me. I wonder how I could have missed the "Lines on maps" reference. Now I have to go back and see if I can find it. ;-). I always appreciate RU-vidrs mentioning each other like this. It helps to build a sense of community around the platform and topic.

Technically a Parliamentary system is where executive authority belongs to the head of government within the Legislature. New Zealand and Canada both have Prime Ministers who have been chosen from the sitting Members of Parliament. New Zealand however selects their MPs using a form of proportional representation (MMP) whereas Canada uses First Past the Post, same as the US. Israel's Knesset is a parliament, *and* the members are elected using a system of proportional representation. This is why there is the possibility of a new PM without an election, you have a Parliamentary system, and you have a minority government. For any US-ians reading this, the PM is like the Speaker of the House, if all the executive power of the President was given to them. With a majority party in the Parliament, the PM is pretty safe, unless ousted by their own party. Look at what happened to Kevin McCarthy.

iirc only a few republicans wanted Mccarthy out, they did get a lot of help from the dems though.

But Spaniel is from the States and likely a significant chunk of his audience is too so it's not too weird for him to describe the difference from his perspective.

@@aneggselentfellow5607 And then they got a far more hardline Speaker in return. Can't help but think that didn't improve things any, for anyone.

@@aneggselentfellow5607 But it doesn't make seems for the Dems to "Save" McCarthy. Let's say they did save him, well what happens the next day, and the day after that? What little of McCarthy's authority would be undermined by being saved. McCarthy put himself into an impossibly weak position to get the job. Remember 15 rounds of voting and rules change?. Also, the opposition doesn't help vote in the speaker in either, so why do so to keep them in? Change the R and D, same conclusion. Trying to pass the blame on to the Dems is a non-starter.

I think tbh it’s kind of just psychology but that’s my opinion, this is an undoubtable amount of trauma for people to experience, there are people who have lost their entire families in a day and a lot of them, unresolved trauma can lead to pathological and violent behavior, I don’t think the assumption is that people are violence seeking, but in such a large group it is likely that someone will be irrationally angry and I believe this applies to a lot of things.

"But I learned to accept it Accept it with pride For you don't count the dead When God's on your side" - Bob Dylan

Same applies to this channel lol

yes and no. the moment the war ends, it doesn't matter how the war ends, bibi goes out. wether israel wins or leaves gaza, bibi is out

Surprisingly no maniacs tried to take him out, like that one Prime Minister who was shot dead by a far right sionist because he support the Oslo agreements.

@@kurczaczak Not really; Putin and all the other tyrants of the world already provide much content for this channel

@@yoavlinzen5669 Agreed. But he survives as long as the war lasts. That's a conflict of interest. Don't get me wrong. I don't think he will do something that harms Israel intentionally. I just think he has lost the confidence of his people, bears a great deal of responsibility for being unprepared, and it might be time for him to resign.

Sure, Wegman’s is good but the best in the country? No. Publix has just entered the chat…

That’s hilarious. So it wasn’t just random.

Heh, I'm from the Rochester area and found myself wondering "I wonder what Rochester looks like from above like this" when it was shown. But yeah, looking at it closer, the highway layout definitely is Rochester.

I think we can VERY safely say it has not and will not.

Yeah. Whac-a-Mole theory is a very old strategy for Israel but it hasn't seemed to decrease violence output or terrorism. This feels like the Israeli Government is trying to double down on the theory as a hail mary. It's a precarious gambit.

Israel's political system may be crazy, but it is far *less* crazy than what we have in the US, in my opinion.

I do agree that US politics is also crazy, it's hard to compare because of all the institutional differences @@jeffbenton6183

Those were the point. Israel desperately wanted to scuttle the peace process that had already been accepted and the potential creation of a sovereign Palestinian state (as diminished and pathetic as the condition Israel imposed for it would have made it), but they didn’t want to be blamed for it, so supporting a less compromising opposition that they could put that blame on was the obvious solution. Of course, Hamas turned out to be right. The Israelis were never good faith actors and would have never allowed that state to form regardless of the pacifism and lack of resistance on the Palestinians part or international pressure. In that context, wrenching away their direct occupational control over Gaza and turning it into a german-style ghetto where resistance could at least be attempted like in Warsaw as opposed to a a broken constellation of walled camps at the complete mercy (or rather lack thereof) of Israeli guns like in the west bank was the right call. Even more so considering the shocking degradation of the IDFs capacities over the course of the last decades.

Last time on Gaza...

Unfortunately, that's the result of Islam

And yet Bibi kept them running for decades for his political benefit

Israel is precluded from seeking non-violent solutions with Hamas, the PIJ and other Islamist factions. That's not true for every Palestinian faction that may pop up.

Blaming Obama LOL OMG the stupidity required for that hahaha

Also the LOM and P.E.Run locations in the beginning are actual Wegmans vs Tops locations.

I think they both respect each other, but make friendly jabs at each other's approach to analysis sometimes. I watch both religiously and have heard Perun mention "lines on maps" a few times, so I guess this is William's response. I just love how niche this is lol. Would love to see a crossover episode

Indeed. As would I.@@MaxKoopsen

That is true. But they're not trying to excuse anything. This is an analysis. Not a political talking point.

Short term the situation is considered a FUBAR. But their was plenty of opportunity to prevent this event via long term efforts and reconciliation.

And for netenyaho it's the potential to remain in power for two more decades

@@nourahmed-sh2ox That's really it. Corrupt, power hungry would-be/sorta-is tyrants selling their own people out to stay in power (I include Hamas in this criticism too).

>is there a better short term alternative I have specific ideas, but literally anything that doesn’t involve the “mass murder of Palestinian kids and doing ethnic cleansing in what America itself has called an open air concentration camp, including escalating those murders in a completely different area of the country than where Israel has been attacked from” would be better than the current plan, which is as I described.

What the motivation for the violence caused by 🇮🇱 🤔????

Actually Perun’s latest video had a lines on maps reference!

That's an incredibly shitty mentality. There is every bit a need for principled human rights analysis against any form of opppression that systematically violates the human rights of people. If every single case of extreme atrocities and decades long worth of oppression entailed absolutely nobody fighting against that oppression, we might as well still have a world built on absolute monarchies, global colonialism and extermination of native populations. It's absolutely vital to call out oppression wherever it's apparent.

@@HM-rz8nv Yeah, it is balanced to say that a 'conflict' is unbalanced.

Domino Theory is an important idea in that part of history, but I wouldn't equate it with Wack-a-Mole. WaM, seems to be an admission of how difficult it is to deal with insurgents specifically in a place where you don't want them. For Israel that'd be the Gaza strip, the West Bank, or any country on Israel's borders. For the US, that would be any place in the World from which a terrorist could stand a reasonable chance of launching a mass casualty attack on the US (Taliban-controlled Afghanistan would be one, Saudi Arabia would've cracked down, though and Somalia was too instable for Al Qaeda to support itself there). Domino Theory was specifically about what would happen if Communists overran a country that the strategists had - fundamentally - no reason to care about but which could serve as a launchpad to take a country that the strategist does consider significant (though not the strategist's own homeland). Korea would be the launchpad to Japan, and Vietnam would've been the launchpad to... Australia (seems utterly ridiculous in hindsight, but pretty much every mistake in the Cold War boils down to overestimating the Communists).

​@@jeffbenton6183how the f Vietnam a launch pad for Australia ? You know how far my country from Australia ? And our goal was never to spread communist , but to gain independence from outsider first France then american then Chinese

@@jerryle379 Yes, I know! That's why I said it was totally ridiculous! (This was after independence from France, by the way)

i agree with you in principle. but the "due" being giving is diferent between diferent palestinians and israelis...i mean in both sides there are the pragmatics that want to settle in order to live in peace and they are those that want everything by any means necessary and won't give up an inch...the current leaders of both sides are incapable of even talking...and in the past those who did didn't agree.... i hope the more optimistic approach like in the comment above will win. new leaders would emerge and this would be the last war

@@adischenker1851this is so sad to me because between two leaders that can’t even talk are thousands of civilians in distress :(

the reason of this whole "war" is because israel has been occupying and oppressing palestinians for the past 75 years... but no let's blame islam!1!1! What an idiotic take

​@@user-tw5gu2yh8s There's always the next Israel, is the issue I talk about. I know of the history of Israel, Palestina, how both got their names, who got theirs first. I did my research. You clearly did not. All I can say about it: It will be a perpetual war as long as Israel exists, and as long as non-muslim countries exist, and that is why it is rather easy for me to side with Israel in this issue. Now my original post was not about Israel, per se, it's applicable to the world. But we can zoom in, if you desire. The migrants that moved into the conflict zone, and the people that had no means to leave it, have no right to turn over an amnesty decision like the UN made at the time. Let alone doing it through terrorism. You did not read the Quran, you did not read the verses I sourced, you did not look into the history of either side of the 2 supposed nations at war. That much is clear. If you had half a mind for peace, rather than vengeful spirit you would realize: I call for people to learn what the root of these issues are, the issue being geopolitical conflict in the middle east and surrounding it. I blame Islam, because theres plenty of factions around Israel that prove that the hatred for Israel is beyond Palestina's borders. Oh and the pride in a Roman generals mockery of a nation, which is where the name Palestine comes from, is the poorest excuse for nationalism I've ever come across. Does the Roman colonization and oppression curry that much favour with you? There was no Muslim alive at the time, they have no relation to Palestinians, yet it's British misinterpretation of history and mockery of it, that gave rise to the modern use of that name. A Caanite peoples, beaten by Egyptians. Is that perhaps the part you identify with? Or is it Pontius Pilate his decisions that fuel your rage? A lot of people didn't like him, renaming Judea in order to disconnect the Jews from Israel many consider a B-move indeed. Nations have no sacred heritage, no forever story. People and cultures last when a culture lasts. The people of that geographical area have been Jewish since the rise of that religion and the downfall of the Egyptians, outlasted Muslim conquest, and even Christian crusades. If any peoples have a connection to a patch of land, then it's Israelites and Israel. Which does not include every born Jew in the world, but the nation is certainly free to welcome them. It was not exactly taken from Palestinians, but rather Israeli an influence reinforced in the region in 1948. Pick up a book, before you throw a tantrum, thats what my whole original post was about, something clearly lost on Joe Schmucks like you. But keep it up pal, you make it damn easy for people in the west to raise to the levels of condemnation to reach retribution. The victim card hasnt worked in 75 years, the refusal for peace hasnt worked in 75 years, the tremors aint coming. The vengeful spirit is. By your standard: Germany has the right to retake half of Europe, England gets to be an Empire once more, French people have no place in France, because they certainly were not Latin speaking before the Romans domesticated the Gauls. And Poland would get to burn down the entirety of Europe. You have no understanding of history, and that is why you boil a well meant argument down to a stupid 1 liner response. You don't realize that it is you that enables a war, whilst it is effort like this, that calls for diplomacy.

@@user-tw5gu2yh8s Now go ahead, and spill the poison, one look at your post and name tells me plenty: You've been getting banned for saying what you want to say in less eloquent manners. Get it over with. I've got the capacity to translate and understand Arabic, and it will buy your account time. Any Latin-alphabet based language, gets picked up by the algorithms immediately, no matter what language you use.

War is politics by other means. So yeah, I'd say so.

They both compete for our time

As long as the gods don't smite Perun we're OK.

They are competing for subs and views on the same audience market. However the market can be a customer for both at the same time.

And if that's true then why is the League of Cartographic Purity the nemesis of Map Men? They need to be sold to Marvel as a package deal.

What about the war of the 🪣