i have a feeling they have their own spots in the main hub. you can see each of them coming out of random doors or cevices or even other things, possibly meaning they used to only cue a very specifc amount of times, but probably because of hormones theyre now being moved to the main hub, and now its pretty cramped and weird, thus giving the awkwardness of puberty a character in itself
It is only in your teenage years that you actually experience all those emotions that Riley is experiencing so when she is older she will go back to the main five.
Nah bro. Fear and anxiety are 2 different emotions. Just like envy and disgust. How can you want to be like someone and be disgusted with them?? That's jealousy not envy.
@@ha.6215I have seen the movie, and no spoilers here, but Anxiety acts like real anxiety. They worry about the future and only react to the present based on its effect on the future. While Fear acts more around current danger
Lol I was really worried about this happening as well but I watched the movie and thankfully they didn’t do that, like anxiety literally explains how she’s different than fear. Emotions are really complicated and so sometimes it seems like they are experiencing something like joy when it’s something different, for example when people nervous laugh or smile when they aren’t really happy. And this is also shown when Anxiety is making Riley mask. It’s not that some of the emotions replaced the others the whole plot is Anxiety gets carried away and worries about the more “simplified” emotions not being what Riley needs so she tries to take over and causes a chemical imbalance (in other words a disorder, and in the movie’s case I am pretty sure its Social Anxiety disorder) I went to watch the movie expecting to give it a 0/10 maybe a 2/10 at best but I ended up rating it a 9/10 because yea it’s not perfect and has some ploy holes but they really depicted the emotion Anxiety vs an anxiety disorder really well so I highly recommend checking it out even if you have low expectations
Horny would be like a cheerleader, amplifying the other core emotions. Joy when actually getting it on, Fear and Disgust when dealing with inhibitions, Anger when confronted with rivals, Sadness when rejected. Joy and Horny are best friends, but everyone else tends to get in the way, so Horny is usually trying to get them drunk so Horny can take the wheel.
|-|orny would be like a cheerleader, amplifying the other core emotions. Joy when actually getting it on, Fear and Disgust when dealing with inhibitions, Anger when confronted with rivals, Sadness when rejected. Joy and |-|orny are best friends, but everyone else tends to get in the way, so |-|orny is usually trying to get them drunk so |-|orny can take the wheel. (YT deleted my original comment so I had to do that)
Thats because well adjusted adults arent supposed to be controlled by embaressment, envy, or amxiety. They are supposed to not have a seat at the table
Yes it doesnt makes sense but it is also stupid to judge the movie that hasnt come out yet maybe new emotions have a another headquarter or they only show up during teenage years or something
In one of the trailers we see that Riley's dad indeed has Anxiety, but I think they appear only in specific situations, in teen years ones emotions can get out of hand and experience anxiety way more often, when you finally grow up your emotions become a bit more stable.
If they only show up during teen years and that’s the reason I will be very upset because saying adults don’t have anxiety and enui two things that play a big role in mental health would be a bad look for Pixar
As a person with a diagnosed anxiety disorder I actually think the way they portrayed severe anxiety was accurate. Anxiety seriously can override everything else in severe cases, the safety mechanism turns into a deeply ingrained fear of ever making a mistake. One of the best portrayals of anxiety I’ve ever seen in a movie.
I just assumed that every one has those emotions but “botttled up” until they come out situationally. On a day to day basis, we have the main 5 that regulate us. During puberty those sub-emotions to our main ones are more prominent.
Well, a reasonable claim could be that some of these emotions are not actually present in the mines of others at the time. My evidence from the first movie is that Riley runs away from home and doesn't answer her parents' phone calls. This leads to some anxiety and at the same time anxiety among the parents, but we do not see that it has not previously been shown in the minds of the parents themselves. While you could argue that it's still a foregone conclusion if the new emotions shown in Inside Out 2 still exist in the first film, the father's anxiety really comes out of nowhere when something goes wrong, so it could be an act , which the new emotions come when something happens. But long story short, since it's just a movie, I don't even know¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I was thinking that since Riley's mom is an adult. She grew out of those emotions cause emotions like anxiety, envy and embarrassment are supposed to be things that you can control a lot better when you're older and more mature
Riley is a teenager so those new emotions are showing up a lot more now but when she gets older they will come and go because she’s not going to be a teenager anymore just like her parents where we saw the dad’s anxiety come. It literally shows in the first movie as she grew up more emotions started showing up
That still doesn't make sense because all of the emotions they show now are emotions children also have. Kids have anxiety and envy and boredom. The real reason is that this is stuff for the plot. There's no real reason, there's nothing big behind it meaning-wise, it's just there for the plot of an animated movie.
There's a simple explanation for this. The new emotions introduced in the second movie weren't relevant to the plot of the first movie, so to fully design and animate them (and hire voice actors) for a few minor scenes in the heads of the supporting and tertiary characters would be a waste of time and resources. So it's safe to assume that they are present in the heads of the other characters, just out of shot.
Exactly. Or they could not be there because they are temporary. Adults may lose those new emotions, but hey. I get anxiety and I'm an adult, so I can say it depends on the person.
@@paradoxine6287 I wouldn't even say that they're temporary. All emotions exist inside everyone, it's the person's personality that determines which emotions take front and centre, and which get sidelined. The evidence is in the first Movie. With Joy being the centre stage of Riley's mind, Sadness being centre stage of the Mother's mind, and Anger being centre stage of the Dad's mind. All 3 of them had all 5 emotions (relevant to the first movie), but it was clear which ones were more dominant in their minds. Anyone can experience Anxiety, Ennui, Embarrassment, or Envy... It just takes a very specific situation for it to occur. Riley is young and has just started a new life in San Fran, so Anxiety is bound to set in, but for the parents, they've probably moved places several times in their life, so Anxiety will barely be a problem in this kind of situation.
Yeah, I think these are just the emotions that stay in the very back of our minds. Things that sorta just creep up on you. You don't always know you are envious of another, anxiety, embarrassment, and Ennui just appear out if nowhere too. Anxiety did say she is a big fan, so this theory wouldn't be off.
Another overlooked fact is while anxiety is a more specific version of fear it originates from it making anxiety not only useless but present in the previous movie as well this could also apply to embarrassment. Secondly, envy is a form of anger and disgust combined since it is basically the anger of yourself not being good enough with the disgust of your current situation. Finally, a myriad of people agree and know that fear is not only an emotion but a spirit as well. Hope this could help for your next video 😊
For the people saying that those emotions only exist as a teenager: 1. I don't think they stop existing when we mature, it's more like we can control them better. 2. We see inside the mind of a teenager in Inside Out 1, and they are very anxiety-stricken on the inside about not being "cool" enough, and there were still just the five we see.
No. They were frightened to not fit in and be cool. The beginning of anxiety is fear. If you can't control your fear enough, anxiety happens. So it makes perfect sense, people just want to act like they're smart.
It's not just that we explicitly see like a dozen people's minds and they ALL have the core five in the original movie - it's also like we're pretending the climax of the first movie literally didn't exist. The ENTIRE POINT of the first movie is that Riley, as a child, thinks and feels in simple terms, and her "default" state is pure joy. She essentially sees the other emotions, especially Sadness, as obstacles in the way of Joy, or brief stepping stones back to the default of Joy (hence why Joy is so controlling.) The end of the film is Riley maturing and feeling and understanding more complex emotions - represented my memories that are no longer a single simple color, but combinations of colors. She accepts not only that she can have Core Memories other than Joyful ones, but that some memories can be more than one emotion. Would all these "new" emotions introduced in the 2nd film not fall under the umbrella of these complex combinations of emotions?? Fear and anxiety? Disgust and envy? Sadness and Ennui?
Fear and anxiety basically being the SAME bloody thing really does frustrate me. You already covered these emotions, you managed to have these five being the umbrella for the others as well. There's a reason there weren't anymore, why they were cut, because they didn't need them in the movie.
And even then the main 5 getting KICKED OUT for not being needed Doesn’t make sense. Anxiety exists because fear exists. Saying you don’t need it despite the fact that it’s the reason you exist doesn’t track.
@@MoonPhantom And the fact the film tries to frame it as "Fear protects Riley from the stuff she can see while anxiety protects her from the stuff she can't see (She plans for the future)". When in the first movie we explicitly see fear plan for the future when he makes that big stack of possibilities for the first day of school so anxiety is literally so redundant. Would've preferred if anxiety was like some sort of parasite rather than an actual emotion meant to be shown as Healthy
@@MoonPhantom im nervous about this movie being good too but take this from someone with an anxiety disorder, they are literally not the same thing. fear is a response to something happening and anxiety is the anticipation of something that could or is about to happen... and in the end, distinct emotions. it doesn't matter if it might come from the same place or brain function irl because having anxiety as a different character will be more in tune with people's experiences and how they talk about stuff like this
@@MoonPhantomthey're not the same though. Fear can be a variety of things but anxiety is... anxiety. When I'm anxious I'm not scared, I'm stressed and worried.
It shows us in later trailers that emotions can get bottled. That’s probably how they’re making up for the plot hole. Certain emotions aren’t shown because they become“suppressed”.
Oh, yeah! Before that nice concept of suppressed emotions that Inside out 2 gave, I wonder how people think how the original film suppresses certain emotions and some have hilarious takes like tying them up to a wall.
Yep, and it's perfectly acceptable to assume that the emotions of the characters in the credits also happened to be bottled, too, considering their internal strife (the exhaustion in keeping up the facade of being popular, the strain of being a teacher, etc)
Im from the future and your point doesnt matter, the 2nd movie talks about this being a problem and makes it the plot of the movie, the world they made is changing
I think as she grows up, and becomes more emotionally stable, the emotions will merge back into the original five. Representing the emotional struggles of puberty.
@@stickworldque Ah. I hadn’t seen that. Idk then. Maybe in adults they’re not always in head quarters and just pop up now and again but in teens they’re always there?
This honestly is an option Disney can go with. They probably don’t even have it planned this way lol I wouldn’t be surprised if they had loose ends but they sure could use this
in a trailer it shows that her dad has anxiety, but it just pops up from under the table, doesn’t have a seat there so the other emotions probably just stay in the background in other people’s heads
Maybe they're more prevalent in teenagers and take the backseat again when they get to adulthood or something. Also maybe more anxious or easily embarrassed people have that as a extra core emotion.
I feel ya but in one of the trailers it pops into the dads head and we see the main emotions sitting there then anxiety pops out from under the desk so they may be present in everyone they’re just not in control
i think something that's possible is that as we age, those new emotions start to merge into the 5 core emotions. Emotions like envy can be a mixture of rage and disgust. Anxiety could be a mixture of fear and sadness. As teenagers we can't control our emotions that well and they take control on their own.
Yeah but the whole point of the first movie is that the emotions work together to create those emotions and memories. This is best exemplified when joy and sadness create a bittersweet memory. An envious memory would just be the combination of, probably, fear and rage. It undercuts the whole system of core emotions.
@@BobGump-vq2jp yeah but I feel like the first movie was kinda just saying that kids can't really describe the more complicated emotions like anxiety, embarrassment, etc, and the mixing of emotions in the first movie like happiness and sadness comes to someone as young as Riley using the core emotions to explain how she feels instead of the new, more complicated emotions that we are introduced to when she gets older, to show she now knows that there are more complicated feelings that can be used to describe how she feels...sorry for the yapping btw
@@BobGump-vq2jpthe way I see it, is that when you are a child as well as an adult the emotion reactions are simple as you can fully understand/manage and comprehend your emotions once you an adult. As a child your emotions are simple and you express them simply, therefore the reason as a child and an adult your emotions are the core 5. While you are an adolescent those emotions are in a chaotic whirlwind and it rips them apart into subcategories of emotions.
Im a teenager, I didn’t have all these emotions UNTIL my teenage years. That’s why we don’t see them early on, as a kid, everything seems magical and easy, once we get older, these complex emotions hit us and we don’t know how to handle it. That’s where the anxiety, embarrassment, and the others come in. Once you’re an adult, you’re more than likely to not experience these that strongly, as you’ve worked it out, but as a teenager you don’t know that. Edit: for clarification, I did indeed experience envy and embarrassment and boredom, but it wasn’t that present until I was in my teen years. My childhood was for the most part really good, I had little to no trauma until I reached 12-13 years old. Obviously as an adult you will experience these too, but usually by then, life has sorted out and managing all these isn’t much of an issue if you have healthy coping skills.
fair, but i experienced anxiety and embarrassment as a kid. it took longer to properly identify them, but i definitely experienced them as early as 5-7 years old. maybe it's just the bad childhood, but riley had a great childhood so it makes sense for her not to develop these emotions until puberty.
Tbh for me I experienced those emotions as a kid more and as a teen not really then as an adult I slowly started experiencing them again lol But thats probably because I never really went through a "magical face" as a kid I new everything was fake, the world is complex and people were evil
I like to think we didn’t see the new emotions in the first movie is because Riley didn’t have them yet or experienced them yet, therefore she couldn’t recognise them in other people, which is why we do see them in her father in the new movie since she’s experienced them now and thus can recognise them
@@aminulhussain2277 no that was a genuine question how does boredem correlate with sadness at all im bored enough to reply to your comment but im not sad
Plus, the new emotions are so easily encompassed in the core five. Anxiety = Fear Embarrassment = Disgust Ennui = Sadness The movie could easily be the core emotions fumbling with the complex new control panel, something going wrong, and them getting "scattered" all over the place, thus causing the chaotic puberty symptoms in Riley.
Exactly this. I was thinking of them like mixes of the other emotions. Anxiety is mostly fear but with a hint of disgust (of perceived failure that causes it to linger), embarrassment mostly disgust but with a hint of fear (of what others think). Envy is easily anger, disgust, perhaps a bit of sadness as well? Ennui... I'm not really clear on what it is people have said boredom sort of?... Dispondance is what I see looking at the character, which makes me more inclined to think of when the console went grey, but not as serious, because it seems to be a feeling of being disconnected from the world.
I watched the new movie, basically different emotions for different stages for your life that aren’t core emotions (like the next ones for inside out 2 aka puberty) are stored away until you need them.
Not even, cause the movie brings up the idea of suppressed emotions. So these adults or teens could easily just try to bottle up those emotions like how our main 5 were in that one teaser.
I like to imagine that these extra emotions are simply a part of the teenage mind & fade away as we approach adulthood, allowing the original five emotions to take a more mature role like with her dad having anger as the leader in the form of responsibility
I think the bigger issue is that these "new emotions" aren't new, they're literally just the same emotions we've had. Anxiety is fear, envy disgust+anger/sadness, and embarrassment is disgust+fear/sadness
Yeah, Disney and Pixar have been writing sequels that throw out the point of the first movie for years. Frozen 1 was about how Elsa belonged in Arendelle even though she had ice powers. Frozen 2 was about how she didn't belong in Arendelle. Wreck it Ralph was all, "Don't go turbo! Stay in your game!" and the sequel was like, "If Vanellope wants to leave her game, you have to let her go."
i agree with you ralph breaks the internet was a train wreck but elsa has always been different from the rest of her kingdom not just because of her powers. does it not make sense to make a sequel exploring her purpose and more importantly asking the big question: why the hell does she have ice powers??
@@fnafnerd8783wanna know the worst part? Else was originally gonna be the villain in Frozen, look at early concept art for Elsa and type in villain next to her name and see what you get.
Wait, What? I thought wreck it Ralph is about the importance of accepting others regardless how the rest of society judges them lol sure we see the scene of sonic saying don't leave your game but that's cause it's a warning cause if they die in a different game they won't be coming back
@@rakano3733 that is the message of the film and i guess you can go outside your game buts heavily discouraged besides at the end of the first movie venelope is so happy and the reason they aren’t in the second is just the very generic “oh it’s getting boring” it’s lazy and it doesn’t make sense pac-man has been doing this for forty years and he doesn’t complain. venelope leaving is almost like ralph leaving she’s the most popular racer sure her game can function without her but it can loose player base with her gone risking the game being unplugged.
As somebody who watched the movie its because the new emotions are behind the curtain. Because at the end yoi see anxiety comea from behind the curtain in the mind of her dad and her mom
For everyone saying that these are teenage emotions and that they'll fade away or whatever when she gets older, you do realise that adults can be embaressed. Adults can get anxious. They don't just lose the ability to feel these emotions and you don't just suddenly gain them when you turn 12 either. Hell, I remember being embaressed by things way before then. What happened is that, for whatever reason, they desperately wanted anxiety to be its own character. Pretty much all of the new emotions are just subsets of the existing ones. The ending of inside out 1 showed that life is often a mix of emotions. That was the whole point. Riley's first mixed memory was of happiness and saddness, the two emotions that are the most opposite. And then we see that many of her new core memories are mixed of emotions. What makes infinitely more sence is her gaining new personality islands, not new fucking emotions.
RU-vidrs like this r the reason why movies get bad reviews. Actually there r more islands and family Island is very small which makes so much sense since when u enter teenage hood, most of time u prioritise friends over parents. And plus the emotions r there in the parents mind too. And actually anxiety made a comment abt seeing Riley's moments which were supposed to be moments in inside out 1. So those 5 emotions might hv stayed somewhere in headquarters. I gain all the information from the clips they released
Not only that, but they also don't just appear when you are older. You can still feel anxious and embarrassed as a child. Idk why people are acting like children don't have any worries or negative thoughts, especially children growing in different environments
i’ll do you one better: i am telling you that i don’t understand the concept. why would they not be present in other people’s minds? i can’t imagine the mind of an adult who’s just moved across the country and had their daughter run away from home wouldn’t have anxiety, even if it’s not a main emotion. maybe i’m not seeing something but it seems like an oversight to me
I don't understand why people get so pissy about a sequel adding new characters. It's a movie. It's primary function is to tell a story. It doesn't have to make perfect sense for it to be good.
@@sunlakestar2549 we saw Fear pull out a book of possible bad first days at school, so he's clearly anxious about things that arent even likely such as a meteor.
Anxiety seemed pretty relevant when that boy in the first film had the 'girl' alarm going off in his head. I'd imagine her parents were pretty anxious when she disappeared in the first film
Riley is a new teen in this movie. Idk if you remember, but new teens have CRAZY emotions and hormones. Adults tend to have those emotions in check and the main five would be the emotions we saw everyone else have. It makes sense lmao but also, I'm sure they'll explain it in the movie. Let's save our issues for when the movie actually comes out lmao
The thing is they don't have new emotions. Hormones cause the emotions that are already there to be more intense, which then makes it show more obviously that they are still children (ie operating with limited experience in processing these emotions, and being less affected by their intensity).
I think when she grows up the main emotion will be in the foreground for example like with her dad or mom. I think it is only temporary like this. It is just because of her growing up
I guess it's more like in the adolesence those side emotions get stronger and more present but for the adults or more mature characters they just appear in certain moments wich is like the premice of the movie
In one of the trailers the dad has anxiety but he only pops up BRIEFLY from under the control table, as is with adults that have more control over they’re emotions
Well those emotions arent necessarily healthy so it would make sense that the older you are the more you mature and can contain/control those emotions so they come out less and are less prevalent
Aren't necessarily healthy? Unlike anger which can lead to anger issues if uncontrolled, or fear which can lead to paranoia or a phobia if too extreme? It does make sense that the older and more mature you get, you become better at controlling your own emotions, but I don't think it means feelings like anxiety, embarassment, envy or boredom dissappear. Since all of those emotions are very normal to have. The simplest explanation is Pixar chose to include only 5 main emotions for the first movie, not thinking about a sequel, and now they're doing a retcon to include more emotions that were left out🤣
@@jjam1025 that makes no sense riley would of felt envy seeing her frinds back home would of felt embarrassment after messing up the first day would depression would of made sense to be introduced during the idea scene and since depression can tend to be anger directed inward anger would really be the only one to have any amount of control most of the time since other emotions tend to be numbed or over shadowed by negative feelings
Especially since at the end of the first one, we see that the core emotions combine to make new ones, like how joy and sadness combined to make a nostalgic emotion
I don’t think joy and sadness combined to make nostalgia. It was more a bittersweet memory. Like you were happy at the time but sad that it’s over. Nostalgia doesn’t have to necessarily be sad which is why it’s kind of its own emotion.
@@melissaherrera940 I think that's exactly what nostalgia is, actually. It's sadness or grief over the memory of previous happiness that is now lost to you. A longing for a time that can't be recaptured.
It's almost as if she's a teenager with new emotions other than her main ones... because it's a part of growing up.....and they probably won't stay forever 😱
@@ohiodoesnt_exist6690it’s clearly not but it’s occurs more often in teens. Assuming someone doesn’t have anxiety disorder, feelings anxiety tends to occur less when teens become adults and stop caring what people think about them.
They're pointing out that what is shown in the trailer for the sequel contradicts things shown in the first movie. We saw inside the minds of other characters in the first movie, and none of them had the extra emotions, even teen characters. It doesn't mean the movie is automatically going to be bad, but it is still a retcon.
I mean what he explained is actually EXACTLY what i was questioning. Because if she is now developing these emotions, why didnt people older than her develop them as well? it makes no sense and I agree what he means. Inside out (1) really doesnt make sense.
@@annaYnation2554 dude, literally they can explain all that in the actual trama of the movie that is about you know why new emotions came out to us? lmao. why would you in the first place get to do a video saying that the movie doesnt make sense because of 3 videos of like 1:30 mins, also they kinda explain that in the same trailers, when we see that the anxiety in the dads head is not in the central plane and it gets there from nowhere, we also see that they can hide emotions like nostalgia so Am I not seeing the trailers or this video is just bullshit because the author want views lmao
1.) We don’t see an emotion named Shy. (2.) Embarrassment it far different than Fear and Anxiety. (3.) While most believe there isn’t a difference between Fear and Anxiety, fear is more of an immediate response while Anxiety is more of a response trying to prevent future harm to put it in simple words (both emotions are far more complex than that) and there are a few plot holes comparing to the the first movie but I think that’s just because the first movie wanted more emotions but thought it was too crowded so they cut it but then decided to make a sequel. Also I highly recommend the movie even if you have low expectations, I also had extremely low expectations but they handled everything really well with me having only a few issues
Sure it does. Your DNA is a result of mixing the DNA of your parents. And yet you are a unique, distinct, and separate entity from your parents. On a different note. Obviously they added the new emotions so the movie would be new, interesting, and fresh (and more characters = more merch). Most people enjoyed the first movie, so it all depends on how well they develop the lore for the new emotions. After all, real people have many more than 5 emotions and can experience them all in different ways. Still, I also hold some reservations about a sequel. Perhaps they might have introduced the other emotions via cameos in the first movie, but that would have required knowledge that there would be a sequel, though it was alluded to slightly at the end with the new console. Still, creativity and ideas don't flow linearly and pop into our heads randomly so it makes sense that there is some discontinuity since the whole series is completely original and not based on some already completed story.
I don't and do like the idea anxiety. I don't know that I like the idea that anxiety can be called an emotion, but I only like that idea if anxiety comes and goes cause anyone of any age can have it but not 24/7
anxiety IS an emotion. a very valid and useful one. anxiety is not the same as anxiety disorder, in the same way that sadness is not the same as depression. experiencing anxiety helps us prevent possible negative outcomes, now experiencing anxiety about everything is a form a disordered thinking.
@MG-fb4yj that's a lot more helpful that's it's explained, thank you. Maybe when I see the movie it'll be more interesting to see the full direction they went
It can - but because anyone with science degree and certain reputation can make emotion categorisation system. Like in 2017 psychologists Alan S. Cowen and Dacher Keltner PhD made a research that resulted in 27 emotion map
@endorPK I watched a video by Dazz Reviews about this too, I'm pretty sure he mentions a fare of the 27 apparent emotions, and they went for quiet the concoction
The reason for that is they aren’t main emotions. They only come out at certain times. And also, they’re more distinct as a teenager. They probably merge with the others as the person gets older.
