Inside The First Magnetic Floating BMX Hub! 

Engineering Student Comments for Phu and Alfredo: 1) Rare earth magnets, like the kind in this driver, do not lose their magnetic pull to any noticeable degree until about 176 F. Given that this driver would probably never get near that temperature, it is safe to say that this property of magnets should not be an issue. 2) Iron particles from the dirt do build up on magnets and are a hassle to clean. However, given that this hub is pretty well sealed and the iron in the dirt in most places we ride is only trace (tiny amount), we should not observe any issues regarding this. If you somehow did manage this, just clean it off since it's so easy to disassemble. 3) One large advantage of this hub that was not mentioned is that the durability of this system. When engaged, the huge contact patch on the pawl disc is never going to slip. Pawl spring systems do slip occasionally as most of us have experienced. The racing side of BMX definitely appreciates a hub that transfers all force to the ground and never slips, this is a possible application in the future. 4) Given the odds of a magnetic thunderstorm, it is more likely that phu lands a triple whip. Thanks XD

Reviewing a magnetic driver: "I think this is Aluminium, but I don't have a little magnet to test." lol

I have it. Better than a mini. Super smooth. Best engagement I've felt.

Phu when you coming to visit us 🤨

About time, it’s been on the market for awhile. Fly is always innovating! Glad you are talking about it!

Been riding the fly hubs since they dropped in Vegas and haven't had a single issue even on the hottest days. Love these hubs and love the epicbmx vids

Definitely sounds good! It's a pretty cool concept, my bet would be that it wouldn't wear out any quicker than a traditional pawls and springs, both have a little bit of friction no matter what, and everything from fly seems to be very high quality... I dig it🤘🔥🔥

If it were for road bikes the slight increase in friction would matter. But I think the simplicity that increases reliability far outways that effect for bmx.

This hub has been in the works for a long time! I’ve had mine for about a year and have no issues with it other than the cone nuts have knurling on it and it slips on the frame sometimes! Other than that it’s a great hub, instant engaging, very smooth and so loud!

Love you guys , another amazing lesson 🥰

Looks like a dt swiss ratchet but without a spring ?

Cool hub and review . I’d like to see the Profile Z coaster review.

Just a the right Time. thank you my Man Alf and Phu hope everything goes well by this crazy Time

good job man,thank for the tips

I enjoyed watching this video very well explained

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I have an eclat seismic hub, which uses the same clutch style ratcheting driver. But instead of using a magnet, it uses springs more like a traditional cassette. The sound from these drivers is insane, it's super deep and loud. Makes profile minis sound whiney. edit: Yes the clutch has a bit more drag than a traditional cassette but it's nominal. If you keep your hubs lubed you shouldn't have issues with ware. In fact the clutch system is less likely to fail than the traditional spring and pawl cassette since there are more contact points

I really like the concept, thanks for this one. As for dirt collection, including the metal found in the dirt, given the ease of the disassembly on this, it should be fairly easy to open and clean after a heavy dirt session. Probably easier than a cassette or coaster breakdown and rebuild, which could (in theory) actually lead to longer lasting parts 🤔🤔🤔

Casually showing off your galaxy rust hub in 2021 is the bmx equivalent of casually showing off your Lambo key.

The more teeth the more engagement more acceleration and speed but the friction can be reduced by using a wpc coating be it's a process where ceramic beads are shot at the metal making this unique finish that reduces friction by a huge margin and prolongs the life of metal parts and reduces friction and makes the metal way stronger

Ruben had one of these hubs on his bike in 2005 sead he had it about a year , that hub is so loud ❤️

Yooooooo, upload times are looking good

That is so cool!

I believe Ruben rode his for almost 7 years. And had zero problems.

Very nice vid!

Thanks for building up my wheel with this hub Phu! I ordered the Cro-mo version but they have an Aluminum axle with Titanium bolts version too. Fly didn't recommend it if you do grinds so hence the decision on Cro-mo.......thanks Alf for the review......first one of this hub in the states and in English finally

Looks similar to a locker for a car cool stuff

DT Swiss came up with the sideways-engaging system but they used a coil spring inside the hub

Cool different concept.

Phu came back

Do a review on the eclat seismic cassette hub

Very interesting, I would love to see how this rides .

I am also a hi tech bmx nerd guy. I’d love to see your collection!

Love the content

phu definitely needs a crazy bike build

Cool, very like dt swiss

It's a good thing that I'm not a " timetraveller", cause if I were, I'd be taking your magnetic hub back to 1987! I sure have been dreaming of " freecoasters" for a long time! A lot of us have been, you kids today are spoiled, we had to rough it, with garbage for parts! Anyways, thanks for another great video, I love your videos. Wes Sept

Blew my mind!

I'm an old school rider. Simplicity is what I say

So does it freecoast or is it just a quick response cassette?

My friend loves his and never haves a problem

In the year 2000, in the year 2000!

Magnetic Levitation Hubs will be sick

I dont have a magnet to test it ... lol

Do a review on a 16 inch bmx for me..

You have a point about metal in dirt

Driver isn't an aluminium alloy as aluminium cannot be magnetised, it has a different configuration of electrons that elements that can be magnetised.

Which one ya think gets wears faster?

Hey Alf I’ve been trying to get the bolts on my female hubs to loosen but for some reason the middle parts of the hub won’t stop spinning when I’m trying to loosen the non drive side bolt do you know what’s up with it

Seismic hub from eclat uses a spring to push the ratchet against the driver. Fly and eclat have similar hubs. Definitely think eclat will be better long term.

Super similar to the eclat seismic but the eclat has small flat springs instead of magnets

En relación al tema de la temperatura y la perdida del magnetismo...en otro vídeo David comenta que el imán usado en el driver es neodimio, y cuando revisas información sobre el tipo de imán, se puede encontrar que es el imán parmanente de mayor potencia, está también una tabla de temperatura de Curie en la que puede encontrarse la escala de temperatura en la que el imán pierde el magnetismo y está entre 300-800 C°

I was beating it to this video that’s crazy 😂

That is a cool cassette agreed

look how many points of engagement there are vs the 4 on a profile. not gonna skip like profile does.

the hub is very well sealed from any small particles magnetic or not. also creates less friction . you have a better chance of lighting you before the hub since your just a sack of water. Yes magnets loose their power when hot but, the amount of heat required will never be accomplished on this bicycle. The hub is a better mouse trap that i would buy.

the driver and cone washers are stainless steel buddy

The magnet can be helped with certain lubes aswell

You too smart bruh, nerd!

Wow

I really wanna hear it on a bike

thats really interesting to see thats for sure. the magnetic hubs engagement is far superior the the 4 pawl design by far. that magnetic hub will never slip. the other hub having 4 pawls and each pawl engaging 1 tooth is actually kinda crappy tbh. its pretty much the same design as a ratchet you use to work on the bikes. the more teeth you have the better thats for sure. as far as dust etc. i wouldnt worry much on the magnetic hub as its most likey sealed up very well. i guarantee the magnetic hub will last longer as well. the regular hub id lube that w superlube. same thing i use on my ratchets.

Yes dirt has metal and if u ride dirt it’ll collect on the gears but I’d recommend any other hub 🤘🏻

Here's something no one can get, it's a unicorn bike part

I'm pretty sure it's called a pawl not a paw 🤔

Fucking magnets, how do they work? Miracles

It almost reminds you like the gearing of a transmission.

Max is always right🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤣

“Some ITT nerd did it” hahahahaha

What if you get a giant neodymium magnet and make the magnet pull stronger

Up next what's inside of a floating bmx

U shouldnt get struck cuz of the magnets cuz ur rubber tires keep the bike from being grounded… jus like a car

Can anyone confirm the material of the gears?

I understand the theory of collecting metal that is a big con

👍

Fly magneto... Luxury hub...

I live by the guys at profile I get to ride with a lot of the people who work there. Great bunch of guys.

He said I don’t have a magnet to check if it’s aluminum🤣🤣🤣 u have a magnet in ur hand phu!!🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

Also u have a magnet in ur hand phu and u said u didn’t have a magnet to check if the gear was aluminum🤦🏼‍♂️

Makes me think why didn't I think of that? Kinda reminds me of bullet trains.

Eclat sismic vs fly magneto

It has to heat up really high to lose its strength

Ryan williams titanium bike check ever happen?

So its a neat engineering solution ie; cool, its different in that it uses magnets instead of springs to engage drive.... but its expensive and it has to offer something over paws and springs to have its USP but I'm just not seeing it... what are these advantages? What was the problem with paws and springs to have a need for this? Looks like a solution looking for a problem to me, I've never had conventional ratchet drive fail on me in over 15 years of riding. If it aint broke don't try to fix it... or have I missed something?

You should have had the eclat seismic hub it’s looks pretty similar to that fly hub

I LOVE MAGNETS! The Montezuma's revenge rollercoaster at Knot's Berry Farm in SoCal uses some gnarly magnets.

Pawl - pronounced like Paul

lol it’s just a DT Swiss

"When heated above 176° Fahrenheit (80° Celsius), magnets will quickly lose their magnetic properties." -- apexmagnets

You should do a vid , on the back peg hitting your shoe . Is this a common thing or am I doing something wrong .🤦🏻

😍😍😍😍👏👏👏👏✊✊✊✊✊

I love my shadow cassette the sound of a cassette does make me salivate lol🍆🍆🍆

It has to be at 176 Fahrenheit for it to lose its magnetism

The pawl system is still better over cost and performance when system is not engaged i.e. coasting. There is a larger surface area of the ratchet system in constant contact, the same negative that was earlier in the video with 6 pawl system, so creating drag (making you slower) and friction which causes wear. The upside is the magnetic system doesn't seem hard to pull apart and replace. As for cost, constant friction means more wear and it's a proprietary tech at this point so more cost again. Cool tech but just another one for the trash

Primero el producto lo probaron y perfeccionaron 6 malditos años 😡

Not sram, Dt Swiss.

Crazy

This man is pinoy

Sourcebmx has the fly magneto hub in stock, just saying

That just looks more complicated and prone to wearing out quicker i agree its different but what happens when the synthetic magnet demagnetizes and it has the new cnc baring what if they stop making that size baring cartridge in a year or two then its a paperweight just for magnets and "sealed" barings