Inside The Former F1 Engineer's Innovative Hydrogen Car | Riversimple | RE:TV

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Former Formula One engineer, Hugo Spowers, has come up with a revolutionary approach to car design and manufacture. He and his Riversimple team in Wales have followed circular design principles to build a car which runs on electricity generated from its braking system as well as a hydrogen fuel-cell which delivers impressive acceleration. Its only emissions are water vapour, and every aspect of their business - from sustainable supply chains to its singular design, forward-thinking ownership models and enlightened corporate governance - is driven by consideration of its environmental impact.
Riversimple's Rasa Beta has a lightweight carbon fibre chassis and motors on every wheel, setting the Rasa apart from traditional car design. The inventive braking system generates around 80% of the car’s power via a super-capacitor, while the remaining 20% is provided by hydrogen, which passes through a fuel cell and combines with oxygen to produce the electricity which powers the car and delivers impressive acceleration.
The Rasa is more than a prototype. Residents in nearby Abergavenny have been test-driving the Rasa Beta since April 2021 - and the company plans to go into production in the next five years through a series of local manufacturing plants.
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@My2Drumsticks Год назад

Oooooh. Had me until you mentioned subscription. I want MY car not marriage to a dealership or process.

@daves4026 Год назад

Totally agree. This is just like selling airtime by the aircraft engine companies. I want mine not rent it. But other than that great idea.

@tallandhairy Год назад

You can't buy it because hydrogen embrittlement means it wouldn't be safe to own and look after by yourself for much more than a few years. The short term maintenance costs might be low on these things, but long term ones are epic

@malcolmism6 Год назад

I thought exactly the same. I want to own it as my own motor not rent it. They say you pay for insurance and servicing and fuel etc once a month. So what is the totally cost. Lol 😅 again they did not say. Making these things out of carbon fibre. Expensive . Therefore average Joe like me could not afford. They say there not selling to the public.why u ask. To dam expensive. They want you to buy into there subscription crap . that means your stuck with it. You can't get it serviced at any garage like normal car.what about mot. You can't sell it to anyone if you fancied a change . Would it cheaper in the long run. Again would they be reliable. Not many EV are. Another thing. If you broke down say with in its ange about 250miles away. What would the company do. Do they have there own recovery service. I bet they don't. At the moment The rac and aa have problems with EVs today. You cant tow an ev. They weigh to much so they vans can't move them. Can't get them easily onto trailers. Plus it's an EV. how does a general car mechanic try to fix your ev at side of road .there new hydrogen ev would have to have there specialist trained in that field to fix it. So what would that cost per hour. Lol lol again that cost a month seems to be escalating. Just another way making you think its the way to go, but all they want is your 💰 money to pay back there expensive overheads starting with all that carbonfibre they can't afford.

@linmal2242 Год назад

@@tallandhairy Perhaps use ceramic on the fuel system ? Or just buy a Tesla !

@lonefriar4700 Год назад

Yea, we all miss those days. Even farm equipment is the victim of versioning. Software updates to older systems are making them incrementally slower, even though PC technology has been stagnant for many years now. Bring back CP/M!

@charleshulsey3103 Год назад

People don't want "mobility as a service", we want a "car as a product" and ownership of that product.

@changsangma1915 Год назад

These things can work as taxis cause they're weird looking things to own!

@MarcoNierop Год назад

Mobility as a service will come as robotaxis, Tesla is very close now, and Cruise and Waymo already have autonomous robotaxi operations in a few small city areas in Phoenix and San Fransisco. Another argument this hydrogen thing will never catch on, it is far from becoming autonomous, it misses all the tech for that.

@mistert7958 Год назад

Few can afford a new car now. Like rent, utilities, insurance, taxes, fuel, food...it all adds up.

@joerosen5464 Год назад

@@MarcoNierop What does the mode of power of a vehicle have to do with it being autonomous or not???🧐

@joerosen5464 Год назад

@@mistert7958 Well then, public transit is the REAL solution, isn't it?😉

@krzychaczu Год назад

"This is a win-win model for companies in various sectors, because it's more profitable to sell services instead of products". Thank you for this clarification! The customer is the one who looses - unable to buy and own the product any more. Must rent it. If rental is a great idea, why isn't everyone renting a car? The answer is: because it cost much more than to own it.

@o-wolf Год назад

Hundreds of million if not billions of people already lease cars &upgrade to newer models never "owning" the car.. so this critique is just empty internet armchair rhetoric tbh

@stuartwoodburn2653 Год назад

Looks like a great idea but Hydrogen is mainly make from natural gas that produce CO2 that is why the energy companies are pushing it. Hydrogen can be made without gas but it is expensive, so we have to be careful where it comes from. This a hopeful idea as long we only use green Hydrogen.

@wastelesslearning1245 Год назад

Teslas look great but unfortunately ev cars have a bigger initial carbon foot print, battery material mined by slaves, and more then half of electricity is generated by natural gas and other fossil fuels. That’s why (insert conspiracy here) is pushing it. We must be careful where our electricity comes from. But in all seriousness hydorgen is way too expensive with the platinum requirements. If electric power plants and hydrogen are going to use natural gas anyway, may as well switch to carbon nuetral biogas LNG/CNG. Burns cleaner for cheaper fuel cost per mile; even if not renewable. but when renewable biogas burns it is still cleaner and is carbon neutral. Big bonus is biogas is stupid easy to source yourself so much so that unlike ethanol and biodiesel it uses waste streak biomass instead of valuable crop land ;)

@gregorymalchuk272 Год назад

Well, currently the electrification that the greens are pushing is just increasing demand at existing coal and natural gas burning power stations. The entire idea is that electricity (and hydrogen) can be decarbonized in the future.

@STho205 Год назад

There is no free thermal lunch in energy. You either have a battery or use constant feed to keep pushing power. Gasoline is an energy battery. It stores thermal action from a billion years ago. You crack CH bonds on demand, and store it as an inert liquid when not in use. Lithium/Cobalt cells is an empty energy battery that must be fed by constant power dumped into the electric grid....typically by cracking CH bonds. H2 cell is also an energy empty battery that must be supplied by H2 refined out of petrol, coal, hydrolysis (requiring massive electricity). It is doing what the former two batteries do but in a different way. Like gasoline it is a chemical energy battery...but unlike gasoline the energy stored in it comes solely from recent thermal activity

@stuartwoodburn2653 Год назад

I understand the argument being made, my point is electric can be produced in a number of different way that do not produce green house gas’s. Hydrogen seems to me the wrong direction as it either needs a lot of electricity to make it or a process that produces green house gas’s.

@STho205 Год назад

But we're still looking at electric motors, thinking they are the best we can do. ICE gasoline motors are 120 year old ideas but so are electric motors. Our societal fascination with electricity began with the 1880s as a panacea for all ills and Future World. There are other methods of producing mechanical vehicular motion without using gasoline/diesel or electric motors....but they're not in fashion. We're just back to the arguments of 1904...at least steam is out of the picture, except for Jay Leno.

@mkrichey1 Год назад

The concept is cool and the proposed range is good, the hydrogen needs to be green otherwise its just moving the problem out of the eyes of the customers and the cost needs to be appealing.

@girowinters Год назад

Production of hydrogen even if green wastes way too much of the energy.

@mkrichey1 Год назад

@@girowinters sad but true. Hopefully we might find a more efficient way down the line.

@willdavis4863 Год назад

Love thé car. But if I cant own the car, I dont want it. Aptera.

@trinsit Год назад

@@willdavis4863 yup, Aptera is FAR more appealing

@MaynexH2-Flex Год назад

We can fix that with the H2-Flex

@leifhietala8074 Год назад

As impressive as it is, the simple fact is that while the battery EV charging infrastructure isn't as comprehensive as we'd like, it is FAR more advanced than the hydrogen refueling infrastructure. There _isn't any hydrogen refueling infrastructure_ at this time, and the dearth of hydrogen vehicles denies any market demand. To backwards-paraphrase Field of Dreams, nobody's going to come so we're not going to build it.

@drextrey Год назад

Definitely true, building them coz too much, transporting Hidrogen also difficult.

@drextrey Год назад

I meant "Cost"

@Aaron-xr7oc Год назад

Isn't Hydrogen flammable?

@leifhietala8074 Год назад

@@Aaron-xr7oc Yes. So are gasoline, lithium, sodium and many other materials used to power vehicles.

@nomyafiftyonefifty8081 Год назад

Only because they have been tunneled visioned on plug in E.V's

@rushymoto Год назад

And cost as much as an F1 car

@kalmmonke5037 Год назад

its a small company, things will be expensive to cover development costs given fear that there maybe not enough customers for now who will buy enough cars

@matthewbaynham6286 Год назад

@@kalmmonke5037 it'll be expensive because of the materials in the fuel cell, the carbon fiber body, the battery (the video said it didn't have a battery but hydrogen fuel cell vehicles all need little batteries).

@joerosen5464 Год назад

@@matthewbaynham6286 And what about building the required infrastructure of filling stations, storage facilities, & refineries? Without strong government support & incentives sucking huge sums from taxpayers wallets for some very old & tired pie in the sky techno-fantasy this entire project goes ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE. I live in Canada & it's been at least 10 years ago since we heard that the hydrogen fuel cells designed & produced by Ballard Systems in British Columbia were going to take the world by storm & turn Canada into a global leader in the field of energy & propulsion systems. Result?🥱😴😴😴😴😑

@zorrava Год назад

The problem with hydrogen in cars is that 70% of the energy is lost before it powers the car. Electric battery cars it is 30%.

@drextrey Год назад

Yes, its far less efficient. Water have the strongest Bond splitting Hidrogen from it is very energy inefficient.

@drextrey Год назад

But as the devil advocate, batteries deteriorated and also need energies and materials to manufacture. And the waste is bad for the environment.

@grtxyz4358 Год назад

True but today in the Netherlands they had to turn so much wind turbines out of the wind because all the solar panels were producing so much electricity... if you have a huge surplus of cheap generating devices like solar panels, which are dirt cheap nowadays, what does it mean to lose 70% if that means you have really no waste.... unlike with batteries.

@wastelesslearning1245 Год назад

Yes but the pro is after doing that you can in theory make high performance in horsepower or speed vehicles that dumps the hydrogen rapidly into the fuel cell for a power surge at a weight batteries could never match. Though fuel cells are too expensive for that right now and pantograph EVs can avoid being weighed down by Batteries and come in truck and train forms so…🤷‍♂️ plus in Europe you got ebike infresture that can easily be retrofitted to be solar. Both hydrogen and power grid electricity is powered mostly by natural gas and other fossil fuels anyway. Biogas is the carbon neutral version that burns cleaner. LNG or CNG vehicles have the pro of being carbon nuetral, have less intial Carbon foot print in manufacturing then EVs, burn cleaner, fuel is cheaper per mile, and makes use of waste steams instead of valuable crop land like ethanol corn or bio diesel oil crops. It’s so easy you can make your own biogas 🤫

@MarcoNierop Год назад

@@grtxyz4358 That is what is been built right now, a hydrogen electrolyser near Amsterdam that runs on excess energy from wind at the North Sea.. the goal is to use that hydrogen for producing carbon free steel at Tata IJmuiden and have a few more hydrogen cars for people that cant do math.

@biodieseler1 Год назад

Oh, I should have realised that this was about an expensive, dead-end, undeveloped technology like hydrogen that needs vast quantities of money, energy, effort and resources just to make it even within sight of being viable. If I am wrong on any of these points, please let me know.

@ProfessorMikecarGuy Год назад

Your not wrong..

@onefiniteplanet Год назад

You are wrong if suggesting that there is some amount of money, energy and effort would make hydrogen vehicles like this viable. :)

@biodieseler1 Год назад

Yes, the only way hydrogen could ever have been viable for anything green is if renewable energy had advanced very much quicker than battery tech. If we got to the point where there's tons of energy and no way to store it, like on really windy days, then hydrogen could have stepped in. Unfortunately batteries with rapidly increasing energy density and falling cost will always be eating hydrogen's lunch. There is one intriguing scenario coming up in the next 10-15 years though. By then we will probably be making a vast quantity of green hydrogen for applications other than fuel. The fertiliser industry for example requires loony amounts of it. Maybe then some profit could be imagined for a green hydrogen car ...? Another 10 years is a bloody long time to be saying "look at my shiny hydrogen concept."

@MarcoNierop Год назад

@@biodieseler1 Of course, make the plastics and vertilizer industry clean first with green hydorgen,,if that is fixed, maybe we can get to the transportation sector, but I have a feeling they will be doing much better with batteries only.. Cheaper, simpler, safer REALLY emission free.

@biodieseler1 Год назад

Yup, that's my guess too.

@drextrey Год назад

"From selling cars to selling mobility as a service" You guys know Uber, Lyft, Grab and many others exist right?

@GierlangBhaktiPutra Год назад

and they come with a driver. I think this car company targets companies that need rental car for their operation. which never buy cars anyway

@Edward9177 Год назад

I like the idea of not relying on one type of technology to achieve a sustainable future.

@daviddunmore8415 Год назад

A car that lasts as long as possible - my Honda Civi is nearly 22 years old and good for years. right now I'm looking into whether it's viable to convert it to an EV.

@1968CudaGuy Год назад

Keep it and convert it when the engine finally gives up. I have a 1992 Mercedes and 2000 Jeep Cherokee that I plan on converting once the engines pass on..

@drextrey Год назад

Using Used car is by far more eco friendly up to a point. Even if they are more fuel hungry, the difference is minimal as production of new EV also create a lot of waste and resources. So use your car until its cannot be used then convert is the best green choice.

@goldreverre Год назад

The main problem with that plan is after 22 years, the suspension, interior and other components will eventually all start showing their age and require ongoing work and they end up being a money pit. Also, the safety won't be up to modern standards.... Got to do the calcs on the residual value of an old car before you tip five figures into a new drivetrain. I'd only do it with a rare and fabulous old car that deserves a resurrection.

@stephenlawley8776 Год назад

Read the science ..why this man did not do before starting the project clever but no sense

@StaredownGames Год назад

Check out Aging Wheels, he is doing this to an old Ford Escape, but not for economy.

@DFX2KX Год назад

Yeah, I kinda like to *own* the vehicle. I will operate basically anything I own until it disintegrates. So a subsciption service for a *physical product* just never appeals to me, I'll have spent far more on the subscription. Not to mention the option to customize, be it paint, custom sound system, switch to disable TCS or ABS (for hooning about) or Anti-collision (for those times Niven's Law needs to be invoked, mass in motion is mass that can be weaponized), or throwing newer parts in.

@HansKeesom Год назад

300 mile range so you can drive it for a week before going to a refill station......... where the hydrogen is crazy expensive because it had to be transported there and that is a problem with hydrogen.....

@MarcoNierop Год назад

He also left out you have to do a 100 mile detour to get to such a station... So in fact you have just 200 miles USEFUL range.. His whole planning and range argument is bullocks, my Tesla Model Y has a 330 miles range (EPA), and because I can charge at home I can use 100% of that range as I please, and not forced to sacrifice 100 miles just for filling up.

@integralhighspeedusb Год назад

I love the sustainable approach but EV's had a head start because they already have an embedded network for charging right in every house, they just needed the road trip rapid charging. This will have such an uphill struggle to make a car that has less utility than a 10 year old Nissan Leaf. Cool design though.

@loddon77 Год назад

The BIG question I wish to ask --- How can this ever make economic sense when it takes a lot more energy to produce isolated hydrogen gas than than the energy you get out of that hydrogen when it is used up???? Also, you say 80% of the energy used by the car is from regen braking --- how does that work if you are on a longish journey, say, on a motorway?

@MarcoNierop Год назад

80% of the energy from regenrative braking.. That would defy physics... You may get some energy back with regenrative braking to convert some of the kinetic energy back into electric energy and store that in the battery pack, but to genrate that kinetic energy (movement) in the first place comes 100% from the hydrogen. Hydrogen will never make any sense, because of its inefficiency, complicated technology it will ALWAYS be 3-5 times more expensive than gas let alone electricity! With the advancements in battery tech, all arguments in favour of Hydrogen will evaporate. The Hydrogen Bullshit Bingo Card would fill up rather quickly with this video.

@loddon77 Год назад

@@MarcoNierop I am pleased you agree with my criticisms. Elon Musk also said hydrogen would never be a solution because you cannot defy the physics.

@joerosen5464 Год назад

The only argument in favour of this technology is that it might serve as an interim stopgap that could reduce the amount of carbon emissions by powerplants that currently run on petroleum products. Beyond that, it's a waste of infrastructure development that will be obsolete before it's even properly implemented.

@adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

@@loddon77 the content of the video and the manufacturer's website make no such claim about % from Regen. I think the person writing the description just got it wrong. Perhaps the claim was 80% of kinetic energy is recovered by Regen. That would be a reasonable claim. As the other commenter said, ultimately all of the energy came from the hydrogen. Claiming it's mostly powered by Regen is nonsense.

@andrelochin4079 Год назад

A fuel cell is 40 to 60% efficient. Although much better than the 25% of a gas car, this will still have to increase to ~80% to compete with batteries. In an energy constrained world, energy efficiency with be the number 1 parameter.

@andyworsley3908 Год назад

But lithium is not a renewable resource. It is mined and finite, it will run out.

@Nick_Smith1970 Год назад

@@andyworsley3908 Battery tech is already moving away from Lithium. Sodium batteries are in production now. And sodium is everywhere.

@stianthomassen6693 Год назад

The problem with hydrogen is that it “could” be 100% renewable. Emphasis on it “could”. Right now, 98% of all hydrogen in the world is a by product of the petroleum industry. As of 2:45 - the electric car is getting more and more convenient and need less and less planning - the problem is the price for when people can afford to enter. Cool concept, though and by all means, drive what you want. But right now, as of this moment the best choice is to by an old cheap car diesel/gas and keep it going to Ev prices drop or a EV after 2020 with at least 250 miles if range.

@martinhughes6860 Год назад

I admire your conviction and imagination. We need creative new businesses like this, but I fear the rapid advancements in battery technology will quickly make this an energy expensive, short range and portly supported dinasour. I hope to goodness I am wrong and wish you all the best.

@peterp5099 Год назад

Producing hydrogen is the easiest way to store large amounts of excess energy from solar and wind for times when there is not much sun and wind. Storing solar power for the night may be feasible with batteries, but storing excess solar energy from the summer for the winter in batteries would be prohibitively expensive. Storing hydrogen produced with solar power might be an option, and the low efficiency of that process might be outweighed by the fact that the energy used inefficiently would be energy that would be just wasted otherwise due to demand lower than supply at production time.

@marquisdemoo1792 Год назад

I see JCB has opted for hydrogen simply because for the construction industry batteries are impracticable. Despite the Tesla semi, unless there are some great advances in battery power to weight, I'm pretty certain the long distance haulage industry will go for hydrogen too. This means the infrastructure for hydrogen will be there.

@peterp5099 Год назад

@@marquisdemoo1792 I think the main reason to use hydrogen is the option to use renewable energy that would go to waste otherwise. Just use the electric power to produce hydrogen instead of stopping wind turbines when supply exceeds demand at the power market.

@mondotv4216 Год назад

That's not very objective thinking. If you have excess renewable energy and you have a BEV car fleet it's far more efficient to put that energy into EV batteries and even draw it back from those batteries when needed. For stationary storage there are a bunch of competing technologies that are both cheaper and on par with efficiency with hydrogen, as well as being a hell of a lot safer. Hydrogen may have applications but only if they can work out a much more efficient way to produce and store it. In the meantime battery tech continues to evolve - it's not standing still.

@peterp5099 Год назад

@@mondotv4216 battery tech continues to evolve, that’s true. But large scale battery storage is still prohibitively expensive, while welding a few gas tanks together is not. It’s the old question of efficiency vs investment costs, and it makes sense to have both, the efficient battery storage for storing solar power from the day for the night, and hydrogen industry for storing solar energy from the summer for the winter. And between those, probably a mix of both to store power from times when both sun shines and wind blows and Store that power for the „Dunkelflaute“.

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Год назад

I think Hydrogen Fuelcell without battery is a bad idea. I's difficult to use the fuelcell in reverse, to generate hydrogen, for regen braking. You should either have a small battery or a large capacitor, to store regen energy, and reuse for acceleration. Hydrogen Fuelcell use more energy from power source to wheel, than EV's,, then you would want to preserve energy from regen braking rather than waste the energy to mechanic braking. Personally, I prefer an EV any time, compared to fuelcell (or combustion engine for that matter). I very much enjoy the convenience of charging at home, and not needing to go somewhere to refuel, even if its very close, and just once a week or maybe even second week. For the long trips, it's more a matter of some planning to adapt. If you can charge while you park for daily use, and are able to plan your breaks on a long trip to correlate with rapid charging, it's not inconvenient, just different.

@Jason-pq5mq Год назад

So, people buy portable chargers b/c a dead device is inconvenient but a dead car is not? Planning is understandable but forcing a long break every 300 miles or so is extremely undesirable. Changing batteries for a quick charge is the way to go, in my opinion. Even Tesla admitted rapid charging is not great for the batteries.

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Год назад

@@Jason-pq5mq I wasn't arguing about hydrogen vs. battery-electric, neither about rapidcharging vs. batteryswap. Just that I think fuelcell without elevtic accumulator is a bad idea. 0:38 "The Rasa is an electric car. It has electric motors on all four wheels. But it doesn't have any batteries. - ... it runs on hydrogen." I was wrong arguing the accumulator should be a battery-The problem was, they made a point that id doesn't have any batteries, while failing to mention they use super capacitor. They could easily have mentioned the super capacitor for recuperation.

@henvan8737 Год назад

The only issue is producing Hydrogen and re-fueling stations.

@Nick_Smith1970 Год назад

And the inefficiency of the whole system. Not much more efficient than a petrol engine. Very bad compared to the 80%+ of a battery & motor.

@mekkler Год назад

They can not possibly imagine that this is not going to be torn to shreds.

@jennyd255 Год назад

The thing about climbing a staircase is that you usually have to take one step at a time. So those arguing about the source of hydrogen are, I think, slightly missing the point by trying to take two steps at once. In this strategy for the first step you will use some fossil fuel to build hydrogen vehicles and support their early operation, thus creating a demand for green hydrogen. Then, when you have a demand - and thus a visible economic driver to enable further development to be funded, for step two you engineer better sources of green Hydrogen, probably using a bio-engineering technique to enable the use of a chlorophyll like molecule to be employed to enable solar energy to split water and produce hydrogen. The thing is if you don't build the initial cars "because they aren't green enough from the get-go", you never build up enough demand for the end product, and no old-school capitalist will then see any incentive to invest in developing the green hydrogen production methods to meet a demand that isn't yet there. These folks are often not that far sighted - if you want to get them onboard for your green revolution it is often better to quietly build up a demand that they can see, and then suggest that they develop a "better" way to fulfil it. That's my view anyway.

@damionlee7658 Год назад

Virtually all the negativity towards this and in support of battery powered EVs, is the same as the negativity towards battery powered EVs and in support of hydrocarbon fuelled IC vehicles during the early days of Lithium cell EVs. Pretty funny how people cannot wrap their minds around how quickly technology develops once there is a market for it.

@filmagnoli Год назад

Subscription service model is interesting & may be good for some people in cities that need cars occasionally, like car sharing programs now. I’m not sold on Hydrogen for personal transport on any level, it’s been “just around the corner” for 4 decades now. It’s a bad fuel option, it’s inefficient, expensive to make, store, and transport. The oil & gas companies want you to buy into it because it keeps their business model, they produce, store, ship the H2 to a filling station where they dictate the price. Charging an EV in my driveway from a greening grid, or home solar can’t be beat. My average cost is $2/day over a month. H2 currently is $60-90/fill

@111genti Год назад

Unfortunately very few people had seen the documentary "Who killed the electric car" Or just got forgotten/ ignored 🤬🤬

@macberry4048 Год назад

This would be a better car if it ran on batteries instead of hydrogen.

@varunemani Год назад

Well then it would also be a 'heavier' car. would'nt it?

@silvy7394 Год назад

@@varunemani Nobody cares if it weighs a bit more. If it was a BEV it would be greener than hydrogen, instead of wasting that energy to make hydrogen, then turn it back into electricity.

@fleaniswerkhardt4647 Год назад

@@varunemani And also one with a shorter range - making it less useful in large countries with long distances between cities.

@Nick_Smith1970 Год назад

@@varunemani But my battery EV weighs in at 2100kg, but it can also do 300 miles. So how is this any better? It's not as nice looking, it's a lot smaller and less practical, and there are hardly any hydrogen filling stations about. At least I can charge my 300 mile EV at home, overnight.

@lemdixon01 Год назад

Sustainably! There's the magic buzzword

@RBickersjr Год назад

Well, if people buy mobility as a service, it'll thrive. I'm not personally betting on it. It would have to be like half the monthly price of owning a car to succeed in my opinion, if there's an actual market for it in the first place.

@kwatt-engineer796 Год назад

The barrier for personal transportation will be the fueling infrastructure. Electric charging stations use existing electric infrastructure to deliver energy to point of sale . Hydrogen would make sense for fleet vehicles where all of the vehicles would be fueled at a central location. Then there is the issue: where is the hydrogen going to come from . It is energy intensive to make. If a waste heat energy stream could be tapped it would help.

@drextrey Год назад

This is so true, and Battery plant are already exist so less impact from building more factories. Still their waste is bad, and making new batteries need resources and also more hazardous waste. Its very difficult position to save the planet, but everyone should do our best.

@markthomasson5077 Год назад

To power the country will electricity, we will have to install a huge over capacity of turbines and solar. Although hydrogen is very inefficient, that doesn’t matter if the electricity is produced when there is an excess

@kwatt-engineer796 Год назад

@@markthomasson5077 The deal breaker is infrastructure. It would take a massive incentive that does not exist to begin a transition to a hydrogen economy. You are correct that the green dreamers have no idea of the increase in generation capacity required to wholly transition from fossil fuels. transition to an electric economy would best be accomplished with some flavor of nuclear energy, (uranium, thorium , etc.) Nuclear takes up very little space to generate large amounts of power and it is reliable base load power You still need conventional generation for load following. The Wind and solar guys don't realize that actual energy production for W&S is only about 30% of rated capacity. Experience is showing that you need about 80% conventional reserves to maintain reliability. the cold hard truth is you have to build close to 1.8 generation systems to get adequate load following and reserve capacity. The green dreamers should let market forces determine the best way forward. Clumsy ignorant government policies are guaranteed to destroy the economy and the jobs that go with it. I like the concept of EVs but the truth is that they are much more carbon intensive to build and don't hit a carbon neutral break point until about 60,000 miles. The current price premium for EVs is a reflection of this. Again I contend that market forces should guide a transition to EVs where it makes sense.

@gountzas Год назад

How long do those plates last, do you need to replace them every a certain amount of time or distance?

@timothyallbritton1961 Год назад

I want to see the safety certification on this car ...

@worldcomicsreview354 Год назад

Hopefully when Brexit is truly done, original Minis go back into production. ！歳萬！歳萬！歳萬

@bungeechord1 Год назад

Its funny the way the people being interviewed look so serious, then smile. Cool company. The design reminds me of a VW Bug.

@johnwest7993 Год назад

Twenty years ago this might have made sense. But battery tech is advancing much faster than hydrogen tech can. Far fewer, cheaper parts, more easily built electrics have all the advantages. And already a safe battery is coming out that later in 2023 that can provide a 600 mi range with a 15 minute charge time in a standard, Tesla-like car, without some odd, awkward body design. It's obvious where this is all headed.

@rushymoto Год назад

So its a horse. Even if you dont use it it is an ongoing cost

@spuddy4063 Год назад

Using compressed Air might be a good idea as well but reality kicks in sooner or later

@herrknopf2685 Год назад

I noticed that the source of the hydrogen was not mentioned. Are we talking green hydrogen produced through electrolysis using renewable electricity or is it through methane reforming? The latter method would negate any and all benefits provided by running on hydrogen- because in the end, you would be really running on fossil fuel. This car is an interesting concept and I wonder what maintenance is required on the “stack” over time. The thought of going 300 miles between five-minute refills is quite alluring.

@alankemp1970 Год назад

Even at its most efficient production hydrogen is around 67% (50kwh of electricity gets you 33kwh of hydrogen) plus the losses in transportation, storage and then the fuel cell conversion back to electricity. Put a battery in the space the hydrogen fuel cell takes up and you have a more efficient and a much less complex system.

@budbud2509 Год назад

Yes 300 miles between fill up seems good , But why the worry if the H2 is green ? The planet does NOT need de carbonising , in fact it probably needs to double from 420PPM to over 850PPm to get the planet back to normal

@alankemp1970 Год назад

@@budbud2509 it’s more a worry about cost, it takes a lot of electricity to produce, store, transport/transfer (plus the costs involved in maintaining a hydrogen infrastructure), using a green electric supply would help bring the cost down a little. Unfortunately though it’s still hugely more expensive (and inefficient) than sending the electricity directly to a battery which is why it hasn’t worked for the 25 years it’s been being pushed.

@kalmmonke5037 Год назад

effeincy numbers are not what matters, its sustainaability of the buisness model , including in terms of natural resources and natue maintaining itself well for other forms fo affecting human health like food supply. its also about decentralizing power to prevent abuse, including being easy to own the car financially, in time spent maintaining it, etc. hydrogen with less battery or no battery, suffers less or not at all, in terms of recycling systems , wheras electric has battery degradation dendrite formation problems even when or if they do recycle in considerable numbers. its also more energy dense per weight, high weight makes things less crash safe , see aptera onwers club video on saftey, and it worsens road wear which is costly to repair. one question is how expensive this system is compared to electric and even combustion, and thats besides wether or not the system depndent on nucelar energy or other stuff. theres still potnential in combustion being better if petrol base source realy is byproduct of anerobic bacteria , which could be regernative like donated blood from human, as logn as you dotn take too much at a time

@chocomojo9552 Год назад

The ll do what ever IS the cheapest or the most profitable....

@joeyvinzo4531 Год назад

It says for longer trips, you need this vehicle. But it’s using 300 miles or more as a long trip. Tesla EV’s get 250-380 miles. I’m a bit confused I guess

@aware2action Год назад

Interesting concept 👍. There is uncertainty of, scale and subscription cost for customer. If the customer knows the fixed(&guaranteed) non-changing(for the life of the car under the same ownership) subsciption cost over the life of the vehicle upfront, it would make for an easier purchase decision. Just some thoughts 💭

@tayloriginals999 Год назад

I'm torn on the subscription model. I understand it is much like a lease which should definitely be an option for people, but some want to own outright. Also, at least in my limited knowledge, leases have maximum mileage and after that limit would cost more. This is the reason some would prefer to own the vehicle as they may drive much more miles than the lease allows. The subscription model is a relatively new one that most likely causes folks to be against it so you would have to overcome that image straight away.

@joewiediger2737 Год назад

The day is coming when we'll own nothing and like it. Anyway ya look at it we're all just renting. If ya don't pay your out. Same with loans. Ya don't own till it's paid for, an then it's shot and ya start payin again! Whatayathink?

@adrianthoroughgood1191 Год назад

They are also bundling the fuel in with the subscription. This hides both the huge cost of the car and the huge cost of the fuel.

@TUHANbukanorangARAB Год назад

Next technology would be like charging battery pack about 5 minutes from 1% to 80%

@utahman3953 Год назад

Hydrogen fuel cell for autos is a deadend concept. Using energy to convert water into hydrogen and oxygen and then back into electricity is fuelish, regardless of how beautifully you wrap the carbon fiber.

@SustainableGal Год назад

really cool concept, lets just hope we find a way of yeilding more h2 per kwh of sustainable energy

@onefiniteplanet Год назад

Yielding is not that bad, but physics tell you the compressing it is going to create heat, and unless you have a way either harnessing that heat....

@SustainableGal Год назад

@@onefiniteplanet ah yeh that too, it's also ineffecient to generate like 89% right?

@peterchandler8505 Год назад

@@SustainableGal More like 60%! H2 as storage returns around 50% of energy put in... Some fundamental laws of physics in the electrolysis process prevent improvement

@SustainableGal Год назад

@@peterchandler8505 oh yeh forget it's that high, "why universe, let's us have efficient green physics free hydrogen 🤣"

@robertbriquet Год назад

20 - 30% of energy is lost in the process of creating hydrogen. The hydrogen must then be compressed and stored, losing another 10%. Finally, another 30% is lost when converting the hydrogen into electricity. This leaves you with 30 - 40% of the original energy used

@jasonbaxter3658 Год назад

Not to mention the 40:1 conversion from electricity to hydrogen energy!

@tedf1471 Год назад

Compared to hauling 2 tonne of battery around? Conversion efficiencies will improve (maybe faster than battery technology...)

@harcovanhees394 Год назад

True but it could be an addition for windmills on sea that produce electricity at periods when there is no demand for electricity. But there are a lot of disadvantages as you mentioned and one more: it’s extremely dangerous, just one spark 🧨 💣

@TobiasWeg Год назад

@@tedf1471 I guess for a similar range, the battery for this specific car would weigh in more in the 600 kg range, not two tones. This car is very light and aerodynamic and not an SUV. Batteries are still heavy, no question.

@joewiediger2737 Год назад

60 some yrs ago my chemistry teacher told our class that a gas internal combustion engine is less than 10% efficient. About 10% of every gallon actually moves your vehicle down the road. The rest goes out the exhaust as water, CO2, unburned gasses, carbon and more. Pretty soon it won't be covid masks; it will be gas masks with fallout filters. Whatayathink?

@checkfactschecking Год назад

It still uses rare resources like platinum. Platinum is extremely expensive right now. Imagine the cost if demand increased a million fold. Compressed Hydrogen is extremely corrosive. Imagine having to change a very expensive gas tank on your car every couple of years. If you are leasing that cost would be part of the cost per Km. The waste of all those fractured and dangerous tanks would have to be dealt with like smelting and remaking them. We already have a problem with rubber tires. The platinum in the fuel cells wears out. etc, etc....

@caretakerfochr3834 Год назад

There has GOT to be something wrong with this sentence "The inventive braking system generates around 80% of the car’s power via a super-capacitor". I think you mean that the vehicle recovers 80% of the power expended from braking.

@Joe-lb8qn Год назад

Cant believe this is being stated as if its new. This boondoggle has been going on for maybe 15 years now abstracting money from Welsh (and maybe British?) taxpayers the whole time and they've produced absolutely nothing useful in that time except a tiny car thats no better than current Chinese small EVs but at least those can be refueled anywhere. As for "its really easy to fuel up" LOL. OK how far would i have to drive to refuel? 50 miles? 75? And the fuel is inherently 2x-3x the cost of electric cars, and currently more than petrol. you can't refuel at home, from off peak electric or solar, and who is going to pay for the cost of replacing every petrol station with H2 filling stations at a cost of literally trillions £? As for an all in one subscription, not exactly ground breaking. i had an EV 4 years ago from a company that did that even included the electric and they are still going, and there area few maninstream OEMs that do that with their ICE cars (and you can do it with Volvo EVs I think). Lastly there will be no "flipping of economics" if its being produced in tiny numbers at numerous factories (with all the inherent added costs of more complex supply chains). Theres a reason Tesla can undercut everyone else and one of them them is huge economies of scale.

@Boleh888 Год назад

Thanks to the rapidly advancement of engineering and R&D for mobility. Can't wait the sustainable human lifestyle.

@nitrofreakmanho Год назад

You will eat those words when it comes.

@worldcomicsreview354 Год назад

Can we be sustainable but still buy a second-hand one at a privately-owned small dealership with cash?

@thanks600 Год назад

I see market potential in making personal home grade hydrogen converters by tapping to excess solar panels output. The same gas acts as energy storage capable to power homes too & cleaner green energy.

@markroderick3300 Год назад

How well would the fuel cell work in cold areas like Maine in the winter if it emits water wouldn't it freeze and block up

@WentzCraft Год назад

I love the concept and business model but hydrogen is alot more expensive and less efficient from well to tailpipe. Pardon my archaic terminology.

@goldreverre Год назад

So, it's a hand-made, low volume car made with exotic lightweight materials that uses a fuel that is flammable, very expensive with only a few places you can buy it... but it's not a high-powered exotic supercar. It very efficient with its skinny tyres that looks like it will handle like a golf cart. It will also only be available on subscription, so you won't own it, you'll just rent it.... what could possibly go wrong with that business plan?

@ashtontechhelp Год назад

I cannot believe these guys are still in business. I am unable to foresee a future with hydrogen - you would need a great deal more green hydrogen, some way of shipping it without losses and a much more efficient method of production.

@berndheiden7630 Год назад

We had a striking example of that „We know best what‘s good for you“ attitude in Germany for 40 years, the German Democratic Republic (DDR). You could buy the only car they made (for the entire 40 years of their existance), the Trabbi (Trabant) with a 2-stroke engine (basically a lawn mower type engine) that had a delivery time after ordering and paying for it of over 10 years!

@tonyeden8381 Год назад

Nothing new under the sun

@mikafiltenborg7572 Год назад

Good luck find a hydrogen refill station 😃😃🤣 Go hydrogen if you want to waste 66 % energy 🙈🙉

@trey9382 Год назад

That car looks amazing I love the design and the technology behind it.

@neilhardy8211 Год назад

Been on their site. They want to quote you rather than give some idea of the monthly cost. Makes it difficult to judge if you even want to start the process. Some transparency here would be good

@StaredownGames Год назад

Reminds me of VW XL1. It looks nice but if you ever come to America, we are going to want to keep the car.

@AnthonyAllenJr Год назад

I absolutely hate subscriptions for property like a vehicle. You will own Nothing eventually if people adopt this nonsense, and will forever be paying a bill at a cost that is probably unreasonable. Hydrogen cars is a great idea, hybrid models even better. But leave subscriptions out, or at least have a path to ownership.

@alankemp1970 Год назад

Unfortunately it’s never going to happen with public vehicles, large shipping maybe by replacing the huge diesel generator that power the electric motors and on board systems. Hydrogen is just too inefficient to produce and adding a hydrogen cell to an electric car (you need a battery pack and electric drive train) is adding unnecessary complexity. It takes 50 kWh of electricity in to get hydrogen out with an energy value of 33.3 kWh, or 67% efficiency, plus the storage and transportation costs involved.

@AnthonyAllenJr Год назад

@@alankemp1970 to be fair, just like the current issues with battery tech limitations, hydrogen production tech has room for improvement. If we can master conversions with more efficiency, we have more than enough hydrogen just from our oceans.

@alankemp1970 Год назад

@@AnthonyAllenJr …as a side note if put a battery pack in the space the hydrogen system takes up you’d have a longer range vehicle 😜

@AnthonyAllenJr Год назад

@@alankemp1970 lol, sad but true 😏

@vubear Год назад

@@alankemp1970 batteries catch fire though. I’d be interested to know how many homes have burned down and what the insurance ramifications are due to electric car fires.

@LaJuanHughes Год назад

When said you have to plan your week with EV he lost credibility.

@rodshop5897 Год назад

"When said you have to plan your week with EV he lost credibility" Why is that? The people I know who have EVs do indeed plan around when and where they can recharge their cars, so it seems pretty accurate around here.

@Joe-lb8qn Год назад

@@rodshop5897 I just drive my EV around, plug it in at home occasionally. No planning involved. If i do a >250 mile trip the planning is "where shall i stop for a break and charge at the same time im having a break" hardly einstein levels of thinking needed.

@rodshop5897 Год назад

@@Joe-lb8qn Sure, you drive your car differently from others. Many others do indeed plan their week around their EV. I personally know two families who do. So the comment in the video is credible to many (if not most) of us.

@fotoguru222 Год назад

@@rodshop5897 He lost me when he said it has no battery. Fuel cells need a battery to get any acceleration out of the vehicle, and for regnerative braking to work. Looks like a scammy presentation to me. Also it will cost at least 5x to 10x as much to "refuel" vs. an EV.

@MarcoNierop Год назад

Yep, that was the moment I stopped watching... I charge my Tesla Model Y when I sleep, I need my sleep every day, no need to plan any of my charging, I just do it when the battery gets below 20%, which is about once or twice per week at the moment, depending on how often I need to be at the office. With a hydrogen car, really, I have looked this up for where my home is, I need a 100 miles round trip just to fill it up!... Getting hydrogen for my car would always be floating around my brain if I would have such a car, range anxiety guaranteed!

@LordWaterBottle Год назад

"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

@snarkfinder2621 Год назад

How does that thing handle on a winding road in the wet with those skinny tyres?

@user-rg6lr5er1e Год назад

the Car is not for sale right?.... i think it reminds me of something....YOU WILL OWN NOTHING and YOU WILL BE HAPPY

@IraQNid Год назад

Click bait. It isn't an electric car when it uses hydrogen as its fuel.

@tallandhairy Год назад

To be fair they have this bit right, it uses electricity to power the motors that turn the wheels, so that makes it an EV. What we typically think of as an electric vehicle is technically a Battery Electric Vehicle or BEV. This thing uses a hydrogen fuel cell and some interesting high power capacitors instead of a fuel cell and battery combination that most other hydrogen based EVs use

@fotoguru222 Год назад

@@tallandhairy Ah! It uses capacitors instead of a battery! Thanks for that info. That will make their car even more expensive.

@dreadfury47 Год назад

I dont understand why everything is moving towards subscription based services instead of ownership. People like to be able to own their own car; I feel like this is similar to the whole BMW subscription service.

@dougonutube Год назад

Some really interesting business models here, but with the one single obvious massive flaw - Hydrogen! If this was a battery electric car, all the other innovations would make sense. 300 miles per week! - that equates to < 50 miles per day, so you could make a 100 mile range EV with the same carbon fibre innovative low-volume manufacture etc. - high recyclability of the battery raw materials, but with very low cost energy, home charging, etc etc. Loose the Hydrogen mistake and the rest could be very interesting.

@Nick_Smith1970 Год назад

But my EV has a 300 mile range too, without having to have bicycle wheels and a Jetson-style body. So mine isn't only good for short trips, but for long ones too. I can fill my EV once a week, and do it overnight, at home, without having to find a hydrogen station. James May has a Toyota Mirai. Same tech as this, and has to drive for 80 miles to the nearest filling station. So before he does anything else, he's lost 160 miles of range. How is that good? Not hating on hydrogen here, but at the moment, it seems worse than battery tech. And to say this is revolutionary, is a misnomer. The Mirai alrady had a hydrogen fuel cell and electric motors.

@jysmtl Год назад

Fantastic idea to avoid batteries altogether. And to make this idea work, as a complete business model, it makes perfect sense to offer it as a subscription service. And profitability at only 5k units per year?! Incredible. I’ll be watching.

@varunemani Год назад

The glass is half full my friend, just wait for it to top up.. all in good time ! 🍷

@CrzyMan_Personal Год назад

"you will own nothing, and you'll like it"

@andrewbarker3210 Год назад

I'm asking Santa for a unicorn this Easter ...

@autoselectricos-americalat9276 Год назад

On average a hydrogen station costs around $2 million each. Who is going to subsidize these stations? Most governments around the world are heavily indebted or bankrupt. Toyota, the car maker pushing desperately for hydrogen, already has a debt of more than $200 billion. The only ones that subsidize hydrogen stations are multinational petrol companies like Exxon Mobil and Chevron, and they have a vested financial interest in hydrogen technology.

@PseudonymAliase Год назад

had an idea this weekend where you have a hybrid flex fuel gasoline/hydrogen electric car that you plug in. when plugged in, it simultaneously charges your battery and creates hydrogen it stores in a fuel cell. when you drive it it can run off a varying combination of the gas/hydrogen/electricity and can clean up emissions when hydrogen and gas are combusted together. or it can run off hydrogen and electricity you supply at home off peak. or just a plug in hydrogen gasoline flex fuel vehicle.

@joerosen5464 Год назад

It's the creation of the hydrogen within the vehicle itself that would be the major stumbling block. Otherwise we'd have heard this idea proposed long ago.

@PseudonymAliase Год назад

@@joerosen5464 you just need a specific water feed, hydrogen generator, and a compressor that feeds into a fuel cell. I installed a hydrogen generator on a vehicle a long time ago although I didn't have the capability of dialing back the gasoline injectors for proper air fuel ratio.

@PseudonymAliase Год назад

@@joerosen5464 Have you seen the hydrogen generator kits you can add to your car?

@willcookmakeup Год назад

How does this channel only have 1.5k subs..... awesome video

@Fesslmonster Год назад

hm, at 3:06 they start the car after refueling and it show 165miles range. at 3:15 he said it has 300 miles range .. so whats correct? and also leasing is nothing for me, I want to own a car.

@thomaswilson2917 Год назад

Why did he just not buy a Toyota mirai? Hydrogen powered fuel cell car? Nothing revolutionary. Wait until you find out how much it costs to buy hydrogen. Bunch of crap about taking EV on trips. In last 9 months drove 2 4500 mile road trips and just finished a 3500 mile road trip. I will keep my EV.

@chaoswarriorbr Год назад

As a supplementary service for people that don't own a car or for people traveling this can be a good idea, as long as we can get the Hydrogen in large amounts and well distributed. In metropolitan areas we need better public transit systems, electrified or even using hydrogen also, so we can sustain the population. That requires cities to be safe, including in transit systems and still won't suffice for all people and uses, which throws us back to PRIVATE transport, specially for certain professions and a few other instances, meaning a subscription based service is not good enough and the hydrogen system will not fit with current limitations in the required maintenance to the hydrogen storage and such. So, yet again one more reason to not rely on wind and solar power, since those already been proven ineffective, high maintenance over the years, a lot more impacting on the environment (specially for production) not to mention unreliable if compared to main sources of electricity. The only way to go is nuclear power as main source of energy and a big overhaul on the electric grid, so then we can have hydrogen produced from electrolysis in a dispersed way to minimize impacts through distribution. Still there's a gap electric vehicles, battery or hydrogen based, won't fill, so we need to go back to ICE, including for costs and availability, so biofuels, just like more biomaterials for the vehicles are a must even before we daydream about a predominantly EV fleet.

@utah32804 Год назад

When you own your own car, you can control your costs. When you rent, you pay the average cost of all users, no incentive to conserve, no pride of ownership.

@barrygoldring1113 Год назад

How much less than 50pence per Mile Now ? ( Last time I checked it was far more expensive than Petrol ) ?

@toyotaprius79 Год назад

There should also be a battery electric only version too ...

@TheNiteinjail Год назад

It's not exactly zero emissions if you need more emissions to make the hydrogen first tho is it? Unlike a battery car that's been charged up on solar wind ect ... More like Emissions shifted as opposed to zero emissions. Still useful :)

@benoitavril4806 Год назад

Short summary. They use supercapacitors instead of batteries for the extra power need, and hydrogen as the main power source.

@akogosov Год назад

I wonder how is hydrogen production is impacting the environment? It is known issue with electrolyse, one spends much more energy to produce hydrogen than getting back from the hydrogen cell.

@bindiberry6280 Год назад

What kinds of gases can be created from Metal-OH with laser or concentrated sunlight?

@JustWasted3HoursHere Год назад

Hydrogen Fuel Cells are batteries, just of a different sort. Sadly, HFCs are about half as efficient as lithium ion batteries, and the production, transport, storage and use of hydrogen is loaded with problems which have not even come close to being solved in the last few decades. By the time hydrogen solves these problems lithium ion will have pulled so far ahead that it will never be able to catch up.

@aussieideasman8498 Год назад

Who will put the filling stations in, and will it be one per town?

@user-hm9sx3pq4n Год назад

Great work. Thx

@bhillson Год назад

I love the look of the car, I am a Toyota IQ driver so I like the small car, this car didn’t seem to have much storage space, I am a community nurse and need a little bit of space for a couple of kit bags for stock (I can manage this with the iq having the rear seats folded down). Being in Aberdeen we have a hydrogen plant here for the buses but don’t think we have any pumps for public. I do feel hydrogen could be better then electric with all the battery waste

@davidcrompton4071 Год назад

Those gull wing doors look a problem in tight car parks with vehicles very near each other it could be difficult to open and close the doors.

@elyeffe6469 Год назад

'You'll nothing and be happy'... I forgot, you also need to pay

@Makedonac007 Год назад

In 🇨🇦... Canada's Toronto Place, they have trains limited city 🦌 antenna to established cable and pay very little insurance to maintain operation ⛵

@chasevans7171 Год назад

Will it overpower its rear tyres on throttle with no big steering input at speeds of up to 60 mph? What's the turn in like? Drift dynamics set up with minimal ackermann on lock? Why did they recomend me this video?

@HasanAMian Год назад

If they take out the fuel cell and offer a battery electric version that can charge at home and then offer both solutions to the end user their bet will be hedged.

@olisipocity Год назад

It is the only way forward for a true green mobility without limits or limitations. The range becomes unlimited, the charging hassle is gone. It won't stress the electric grid, there's no battery pollution, no need for endless charging points and it's an evolution rather than a revolution.

@ekim000 Год назад

Where does the energy to make and transport the hydrogen come?

@danwat1234 Год назад

0:45 Really no batteries? Super capacitor to both buffer energy from regenerative braking, and to buffer energy from the fuel cell to the electric drivetrain? Cool design but battery technology is pushing forward with sodium-ion, silicon-ion and solid state getting close to mass production. The future is bright for transportation with this multifaceted approach but getting hydrogen infrastructure installed with local hydrogen production will likely be more costly than electrical lines to EV stations.

@nsha2011 Год назад

I hope the best for this company and it’s business model. Great outlook and great job! Keep it up!

@miboxcmpinto4977 Год назад

When I hear this type of music, in a video, like this, I immediately know that it is a buullshiit philosophy.

@apterachallenge Год назад

The big drawback is the hydrogen. Every house has an electrical outlet, but every house does NOT have a hydrogen tap. This is why EV's have taken off so quickly. But I like the lightweight carbon fibre construction. Aptera has the carbon fibre construction but goes one better and adds solar panels, which adds another ubiquitous energy source, the sun. Aptera is also more aerodynamic.

@sureshadusumilli4960 Год назад

It’s similar to how Petrol and Diesel are distributed right now.

@apterachallenge Год назад

@@sureshadusumilli4960 Sure, but the petrol and diesel networks have been built up over a hundred years. There is also the issue of a limited number of hydrogen vehicles and limited supply of hydrogen, therefore I can imagine no petrol or diesel distributor wants to touch it.

@archstanton_live Год назад

A hand built, carbon fiber, hydrogen powered 2-seater is very niche, not for the faint of pocketbook.

@lg5819 Год назад

On the upside not owning the car outright but leasing it will mean when upgrades and new designs are brought to the market by River Simple drivers won’t have the hassle of selling them or trading them in for a newer model and paying the difference because new cars lose value over time. Having said that, will it cost more in the long run compared to ownership? But it’s great to see a British manufacturer building a product the country needs, rather then more financial services which Britain is far too reliant on. Germany, Japan, South Korea and China realise the value of manufacturing things. 🇬🇧

@DavidGreen_au Год назад

H₂ Fuel Cells. Great idea. Just needs a clean production method, not the current CO₂ belching method of rendering Hydrocarbons down.

@sergiotonetti3657 Год назад

what is the pressure of the cylinders ??????

@blacklove74 Год назад

“You will own nothing and you will be happy” is not the slogan anyone has in mind when they are shopping for a means of transportation. You will have to rethink this aspect or you will fail.