I am suffering from cancer and my kids are really not interested in me. I am blessed to have a lovely Thai wife who has been my support and reason to fight.
I heard on BBC Radio 4 about old age care homes in Thailand. A fraction of the price of European and US. I would not mind spending my final years in Thailand opposed to the cold and darkness
It's an interesting topic, I never like to think of growing older. But what we really need to know is how does Nat keep getting prettier as she gets older? We need to do whatever she's doing 🤗
She appreciates the compliment. Not sure. Maybe it's because we try to share some kind of fun, laughter and love every day. A good prescription for retaining youthfulness...
She’s still young! Not even 32 I am sure. She’s maturing as a woman. It will take a few years before she start getting older, after 40… That’s how it works, remember? ☺️😉 Plus they’re eating healthy food, she’s full of strength and energy!
Thank-you for covering this topic, especially the more controversial aspects. Those who heed what you said will potentially be saved a lot of grief - if they haven't already made the mistake of taking unproven medical treatment.
Hi JC and Nad. Thank you for this good video. I don't worry about getting old too much and I am 76. I have faith that God will provide whatever it is I need. The idea of getting a nurse to help take care of me in the future is a great Idea. I will keep my eyes pealed for that. I believe that someone will always be there to help. I have actually cancelled my heath insurance from the UK as it is getting too expensive. It was $4300 this year and would be going up to around $5000 or more, so I decided to cancel and start saving more money. There are also many elderly women who could help me at a reasonable price also. My philosophy is to have no fear and no doubt that help will be there when I need it........Sal : )
What about the scenario where you are mentally or physically incapable of managing your affairs e.g Dementia. Does Thailand have the concept of an enduring power of attorney for financial matters and an enduring guardianship for health and life matters? If you had no family who would you entrust those roles to?
Not a fun subject to talk about. But if somebody's thinking about living in a country they should know what's going to happen and what to expect as they age. Thanks for listening.
Hey JC and Nat, I am still recovering from my tongue cancer surgery last year and the radiation treatment. I was lucky I was insured with Pacific Cross, I had my operation and treatment in Bangkok hospital in Bangkok. It cost me over1.5 million baht up front then Pacific Cross covered me eventually, but I was lucky to have the support of Bee my wife of over 35 years and a great bunch of expat friends to help me thru the mental side of recovery. Getting better 15. Months on, but still a lot of issues to deal with.
Have to agree that there has to be an option for retired people who are single without the Thai family backing. And knew there are nursing homes for expats that works out cheaper than by your home country but never knew of nursing care which you can hire how ever long you need it.
I had😂 to pay into the SSA in USA for 20 years to get SS . So I don’t think the Government is giving me anything. I’m just getting some of my money back B4 I pass.
I heavily thought about Thailand and other Asian countries since the 1990s when I was in my late 20's as a goal. I was young, single, no kids, great job (civil service) and I saw 25 yrs ahead. What I failed to realize was all the fun I had was at THAT time; I really didn't think about what ife would be like as an old man in a country where I didn't or struggled with the language. COVID woke me up.. no way at 58 I'd live in any 3rd world country as an elderly man of 70-80+. The thing is... as you age you want things SIMPLER... not more complicated. Too many moving variables (coups, visa, regime or policy changes, social attitude changes-'foreigners go home!', etc) too many moving parts when you're losing brain cells by the minute and the clock's ticking.
So my question to you then is, if you've already decided that living in a third world country is not an option why are you watching videos about living in a third world country? Just curious.. This is puzzling... 🤔
@@EscapetoThailand For the same reason I watch programs about people going to space, women quilting or Muy Thai. Doesn't mean I want to participate in DOING those things or living in zero-gravity, but it's alway interesting to see the types of people who push such narratives. Besides life as you shouldn't be puzzled about... is fluid. When you were a young man, Vietnam was a "bad" and "horrible" place worse than most. Now it's better than the Phils, Thailand, and South Korea for many reasons. But in two decades.. will it? People's attitudes/needs/realities change over time. They may not even have a King anymore in two decades in Thailand. You're not the same man you were 15 years ago and you don't think that way now. Phils kind sucks now but once the US puts those bases back in and adding new ones... will it in 25 years? Your reply comment is more puzzling than mine, considering your talking about the future and not present.
@@EscapetoThailand I looked at a few countries. Last one I considered was Turkey. USD rules there, a lot of English speakers, modern but with history, etc. Then Erdogan messed up the lira. Then the earthquake. Then it didn't want to approve Sweden. Then Turkey sides with HAMAS. My guess is in 10-15 years it will be highly-anti American. That was in less than 5 years so you should see how not only people can have changes but governments, nations and societies as well.
@@EscapetoThailand So ADadSupreme took the high road and responded to your snarky , childish and rather facetious response in a polite and measured manner . No response to him ? I have noticed that you often respond in this manner to people that you see might not be of any use to you ( those that would not be interested in providing you money on your patrion page or through your other fund gathering avenues ) . Its more than clear that you hold a lot of disdain for folks that you cannot profit off of You don't realize that people see this side of you JC . Its very telling of the person you really are . In fact I have seen quite a number of shady actions by you in the past , but you quickly delete and block those that call you out on these un ethical actions . It will catch up to you in the end JC . I think the falling subscriber numbers are only the first result
I like Nat's shirt. Unfortunately the school system required all children to get the vax and a booster. I will never allow my kid to get another one of the mRNA vaccine.
Are there any private old age care facilities in Thailand? If not, wouldn't it be a great idea to start one? Expats in their sixties could get together and start a nice senior-care living facility and have a management structure where as they get older, younger expats take over, rinse and repeat. I think I saw a video where an expat is showing a large senior living facility with different levels of care. I think it is a Corp that has multiple facilities in various locations in Thailand. Since you and the guy in the pool took on this subject, why was this option not discussed? Am I missing something?
Yes there are senior care facilities in thailand. Most of them are geared towards specific citizens of specific countries and therefore have staff that are fluent in that specific language. So it's good to do your homework. And yes it is a good business model and one I thought of about 20 years ago of pursuing but decided to chill instead.
Up north it’s cheap in the hospitals , I agree . Gyday JC , I owe you supper and an expensive bottle of red wine to drink with it . Property will be for sell . It’s just about complete . Hope to make it out alive . ❤
The thing that worries me most is being unable to carry out basic functions without difficulty due to poor infrasture. When I'm too old to do my runs and gym workouts, ideally I'd take to long walks but the uneven and sometimes totally absent pavements in Thailand would make that a big challenge to someone struggling with mobility, not to mention the danger from feral soi dogs of course. I would probably think about returning to my home country where things are much easier if you're finding it hard to get around. Well done JC for covering some worrying health data. How can you tell if a politician is telling lies? Answer:- they're speaking.
In many cities now there's actually resident communities. These areas are actually enclosed neighborhoods where the streets are nicely paved and there are no stray dogs. So that would be an option as well.
With the OA non immigrant visa I am pretty sure it is a requirement to have both inpatient and outpatient insurance to a value of at least 3 million baht. Yes you can bring cost down by including a deductible amount.
A better option is just to come over to Thailand on any kind of Visa and then apply for a non-immigrant Visa and get a one-year extension added to it based on retirement and that way there's no need for any insurance. Always an option!
Great video JC. I have been subscribed for a while, and I live in Thailand at 72, but currently in good shape. I do have an age related gf who I know will care for me in my declining years, but my Plan B is going up to Chiang Mai because they have several great assisted living facilities there for around $1,400-1,600/months for everything. In California I had to stay in one for two years, and was paying $6,000 per month. But I feel 100% better being in Thailand.
$6,000 a month? Yikes that's crazy... Be aware that some of those care facilities are specifically targeted for citizens of specific countries. I think there's a Japanese one and a German one in Chiang Mai if I'm not mistaken. So if you look into it make sure it's one that is staffed by employees who can speak your language.
@@EscapetoThailand $6k a month plus I didn’t like the food, so additional for Uber Eats on a regular basis. Some of the staff were non English speakers, but fortunately I can get by with Spanish. Yes, they are definitely different in Chiang Mai, but most these days have various expats, but the staff do cater to English speakers. Thank you 🙏🏼
Good to see some counter information but even more so raising awareness of the 'side effects' speaking the previously unspeakable and with sincerity. There will sadly be many sufferers.
Thank you. Have you seen the people commenting here attacking me for doing so? This is exactly why we changed the name of the channel to Escape to thailand! To help people get away from that kind of mentality. But unfortunately on RU-vid it comes with the territory. Thank you again for your support.
@@EscapetoThailand only in the odd comment as I havent read across all your content. Ignore the ignorant my friend and keep sharing your critical thinking. The world needs both sides of the debate, and those who are strong and prepared to speak out 😎💪
I recently checked out the price of a CT heart scan in Chiang Mai about 23000 baht UK price for scan private hospital £600 not much difference anymore medical prices in Thailand have really escalated over the years Price for 2 stent heart op 750000 baht thats £17000 Not cheap anymore
If you have enough money, then you'll always have options, but I think that some people might not be able to afford additional assistance, so in that case family would be very helpful. Also, I really appreciate the effort you put into making your videos, but promoting vaccine conspiracies isn't very responsible. Of course people are free to believe whatever they want, but I really don't think you should bring that sort of thing into your videos.
Yes I think if you go back and listen you'll see that I said that the best option is having a family. Maybe you missed that. This was directed towards people that don't have a family and what their options are. And by the way, if somebody is in a familial situation they're probably spending more than that $700 a month just on the support of the family. So in many cases the option of home care would actually be a cheaper option. But might not be a better emotional option. Also, I'm confused. What conspiracy are you actually referring to? Have you looked at the data? You probably are intelligent enough to decipher that there's a problem with these vaccines unless there's something preventing the normal process of thinking. That's not a conspiracy that is intelligence and critical thinking. It's a shame people now have been programmed in the west that anything that they don't agree with now has become a "conspiracy theory" . Sad but true. That's why we changed the name to Escape to Thailand for people to have the option to get away from this kind of thinking that now permeates Western cultures and, get ready for it, might be intentionally driven!!!!!! 🤣
Just discovered your channel. I'm only 50 and thinking of Thailand as a place to retire. Getting old alone worries me, no kids unfortunately. My brother, wife & kids live in Bangkok and his wife is from Nakon, isaan. Maybe her village will look after me but I don't want to live up there as I need to live by a surf beach so I'm thinking Andaman coastline. Though i guess when i need serious care ill not be bothered about living by the sea & i could move up there then. I certainly won't be getting medical insurance as I don't think that is 'Health' care. I live my life almost 100% homeopathically so if I had cancer or anything serious I would be running as far away as possible from a doctor and Chemo.
The guy featured in the pool is crazy to rely on his children! Family values are breaking down in Asia. Far better to plan early as Escape to Thailand suggests and to have the money required. Otherwise, be a good person and do not go to Thailand to become burden to a country you are not a citizen of.
You seem to be completely unaware of this thing in the United States called Medicaid. Yes, it’s true that Social Security and Medicare may not be sufficient to take care of those who have extreme medical expenses. But if you are impoverished, then Medicaid will care for you. That is completely different than countries like Thailand that provide no support. No social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid.
I am half deaf, I thought you said you were going to move to a quiet place to make this video? Maybe you could get a hearing check there in Thailand - it must be inexpensive, right?
Anybody can go to immigration for you. This is how agents work, but anybody can do this for you. The incapacitated person just signs the application and there's a place on the application for the name and information of the person that is applying for them. And photographs can be supplied with the application even though these days it's done electronically at the desk of the immigration officer at which the application is being presented. I once heard somebody say there's "always an option!"
It appears he thinks the " jab" is connected to just about EVERY malady out there. Its the same mindset that people with " Trump derangement syndrome " display. According to them , Trump is responsible for EVERYTHING that is bad or perceived as bad , and if you present FACTS to prove them wrong , then you are attacked and canceled
I've wondered about adoption but my wife is totally against it. I dont know if thats a cultural thing or that it just doesn't happen here much. Thoughts?
My goodness, how quickly you jump to the antivax scare mongering. Jeez. Pay for health insurance or self insure, neither has a flip to do with vaccines. Nor does it have a wit to do about family support or live-in nurse. The percent of suspected vax problems was so small as to be a waste of time to mention.
Raising non biological children is fraught with danger and extremely costly...when they turn around and say youre not their Dad. Who will be paying for this child over the next 18 years?
Let's see how many times you can post this nonsense... BTW, if you question whether a container of milk has gone rancid does that make you an anti milker? Of course it does. How stupid of me to ask.
Yes it can be. The problem is if you're involved with a Thai family they won't want to lose face by having a cheap funeral so it might be more expensive than what it could be.
Looking for a volunteer? Unfortunately our charitable contributions have been drastically cut back since the global disaster hit. Hopefully though you'll have a LONG time before ANYBODY will get that money. Stay well and stay strong.
You do know where, why and how that term got created don't you? And thanks for warning me that your critically important subscription will be finding a new home...
@@EscapetoThailand No idea why you mentioned the anti vaccine in your VDO I lost a dear Thai friend in Petchaburi on the first wave and he had wished he could have been vaccinated with his health condition! Typical western attitude of paranoia as we say on Thai Keet Yer! Chai Yen Yen dee Kwah!
You started off alright on this important topic, but veered off into ridiculous anti-vax misinformation. Perhaps we should all inject concentrated hydrogen peroxide as our miracle medicine. I don't care what you do with your own life, but to promote medical opinions and advice based on selective media sources should be considered criminal. What you call 'charitable endeavors' is actually disseminating nonsense.
😂truth hurts, maybe you should become more educated rather than attempt shaming language. This medical intervention is now also being withdrawn from scandinavia countries due to risks. Do your homework!
Having a view point that is different than yours should be a crime? Wow. Vaccinated and unvaccinated people got covid. One worry the unvaccinated don’t have is the possible long term effects on the body from taking a vaccine that was hastily approved without the normal testing and trials. Lie after lie was told to force people to take it and now innocent people like yourself have this worry lingering in the back of their mind. Unable to even consider that you may have made the biggest mistake of your life. It must be a terrible feeling and I empathize with you. Restricting dialogue on the vaccine debate won’t elevate the fear. In fact censorship on the topic of safety of the vaccine robbed you of the ability to make an informed decision .
