I had great fun and ideas with IC1. After watching this and some feedback I went onto WAP and saw that the upgrade price to IC2 was VERY generous... No brainer really, CLICK and it's mine!
Recently purchased, still learning, but this thing is awesome! Well worth the money, and super fun even if you're only playing around with it. Only request is: One simple sound bank included as default. Even just a low quality piano as a reference for what midi might (potentially) sound like when dropped on something else. Just a thought, but I might be missing something.
I am going to buy this... BUT... oddly, and it could just be me... I didn't find any of the results presented in this video (or one other that I've seen) musically satisfying or compelling for me to buy. I can tell this product is using basic music theory algorithms and patterns, not highly-trained AI, which if trained well, would be much more likely to create inspiring and compelling result nearly every time - it would've learned and then been able to infer, not from the rules of music theory and patterns, but from abstracting its own "music theory" from the breakdown and comparative juxtaposition analysis of instruments in many tens of thousands of real songs by real human artists and composers that it was trained on. Perhaps W.A. Production will get around to that in version 3. Most of the results, at least in this video, are NOT what a human composer or musician would aim for. HOWEVER, the wealth of available tweaking MIGHT allow me to dial in inspiring results, so I WILL buy at the current intro price to support the work of the W. A. Production team. I seem to never be lacking in the self-inspired creation department for creating parts that exactly reflect my imagination, so I don't know exactly when I would use this product. Perhaps if in a crunch. Despite all of the above, I commend W. A. Production for producing a solid product that may solve the inspiration and composition needs of many.
Great tool for kick starting ideas, I've been especially enjoying it as source for interesting drum patterns with variations. I was having one weird issue with it yesterday ... when I drag drop a bassline from Instacomposer into my DAW and have InstaComposer still play a drumloop on a different track, the timing/sync is off, unless I reset the sync or loop points. Quite possibly user error though. I've had v1 for ages but never used it much so I'm not that familiar with it. Maybe a quirk in Reaper. Not a huge problem anyway, just need to check that the project is the same when reloaded before moving on. Totally worth the upgrade price just for a good source of drum patterns.
Hey, thanks for the feedback! I'd be interested in seeing what's happening so we can look into it. If you'd be willing to record a video and send to info@waproduction.com, that would be great!
@@w.a.production Hi, thanks very much for the response. All good now, it turned out to be user error sorry : ) Long story short, an active plugin in my monitoring fx chain which I'd forgotten about, and which was adding audio latency and playing havoc with MIDI/audio sync. Sorry about that, and thanks again.
Looks good, but seems to lack the ability to apply styles to the AI gen. Still I might get the trial and have a play. Maybe a good future feature would be musical style presets that [as a minimum] set the AI gen parameters to sensible values for each style or genre
As Instacomposer doesn't really work with Ableton (Ableton's fault for not having multi routing) - could the VST be updated to include some onboard sounds? That way Ableton users could use all the IC features to build up a 6 track mix (within the plugin itself rather than routing MIDI to DAW channels), and once happy drag and drop the MIDIs into the DAW. This would seem to be a pretty simple workaround for the Ableton routing issue, and open up a ton of Ableton users to this awesome tool?
appreciate the feedback, I will pass it along. There are workarounds for Ableton though that aren't too difficult. waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4788666291602-How-do-I-route-InstaComposer-InstaComposer-2-to-Multiple-Instruments-in-Ableton-Live-Suite-for-FREE
Is there now a way to route midi to different instruments in Ableton without the need for Bluecat? For instance route to virtual midi cables then back into Ableton with those virtual cables?
Hi, I tried with this new version and it uses the same multi channel midi routing, so Ableton can't handle it as it only detects all midi channels coming from Instacomposer as one only channel. An interesting and simple workaround is to use 2 different octaves for each of the Instacomposer tracks and then use the pitch and range tool in Ableton to assign instruments, take a look at this tutorial ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-45NEcMrQ_D0.html Another free alternative is to use Kushview Element as plugin host, in the same way as you would do with patchwork by loading all instruments inside and using the module called "midi Channel Splitter" to separate the midi channels. Also if you prefer to use virtual midi ports instead of loading all the instruments inside Element, you can do it as well, load just the Instacomposer inside Element, then connect it to the channel splitter, then connect the corresponding midi channel directly to the virtual midi ports, the just select the virtual midi ports as inputs inside Live
@@LindsayStone I tested it using loopmidi virtual port, it's enough to use one single midi port and it's not necessary to use the channel splitter inside element, the midi channel can then be selected from Ableton midi input dropdown.
I just bought the 1st version recently... Is there an upgrade price... If i knew an Instacomposer 2 was near to completion I would have waited... Either way it is a pretty amazing plugin... Great idea starter or writers block cure... If there was an upgrade option I wouldn't mind picking it up for the new features...
Yes but can it import MIDI, especially chord progressions? I'd like to import chord progressions I've made and exported from Scaler 2 and import them into Instacomposer 1 (or now, 2) but I haven't been able to come up with a way.
It doesn't quite work that way, however, you can select your own chords to build your own progression, and have it build off of those. So essentially, yes :)
Tried the demo... set up with Ableton 11 per instructions (triple checked) but MIDI was not sent, so no sound from instrument on 2nd channel. If I can't get the demo to work... why would I buy it?
InstaComposer 2 uses AI to generate chord voicing that flows nicely and compliments the other elements in the generation. However, you can always manually adjust this as well.
Is there any instruction on how to route each channel from InstaComposer 2 to Midi channels in Logic Pro x? Also where is there a user guide for InstaComposer 2?
How can I send directory the output from the 6 Channels to 6 different softsynths channels in LogicPro? The Envirenment window is no longer accessible!
OK I impulse bought this thinking it could generate variations etc. off of a melody sequence you input into it. I'm not seeing any way to get your ideas and melodies etc. into the plugin. I mean I'm trying to figure out how this helps someone stuck in a loop make a song?
Indeed, InstaComposer generates MIDI based on parameters you set, it does not read external MIDI you create. This can help someone who is stuck by allowing them to generate chord progressions and melodies that work well together by letting them simply tweak parameters until something comes out that sparks inspiration.
I'm sorry to hear that. I think you guys really missed out on something amazing by not having the ability for Instantcomposer to generate ideas based on your own MIDI files, I don't need any help coming up with original ideas, I need help at times making a one or two part song into a complete song. . @@w.a.production
Does anybody know how to change a particular chord in InstComposer to the upbeat or and of a bar? So far I can only see that I can do a change on the downbeat. Please help.
No -- unfortunately, Garageband does not allow for MIDI effect plugins like InstaComposer. You would need to upgrade to Logic Pro or some other DAW that allows them.
Is it true that all patterns are just preset patterns? If so than the randomizer does nothing more than selecting one of those preset patterns. Where is the AI in that?
it's actually not too bad -- instructions for reaper here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407841293458-I-am-having-trouble-setting-up-InstaComposer-in-my-DAW-
@@w.a.production i've found when i drag and drop the midi over it sometimes doesn't work. it will work on certain tracks but not others and i've verified all tracks have full key range, it happened alot yesterday usually. i will try the routing instructions as i lost alot of time with the non working midi
@@straighttalk2069 money? reaper is free dude....its a nightmare program i wont even update it because im afraid it will ruin all my tracks. use anything but reaper
@@w.a.production In InsteComposer, we get virtually infinite and "random" generated results, or does it work from some big midi bank? Or does real artificial intelligence generate the tunes based on some complicated algorithm? Anyway, I bought it and managed to do very good things with it so far! Let's say it was not possible to generate a normal fill in for the drum track.