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Instacomposer 2 - Is A.I. MIDI Generating Effective?!? 

Ave Mcree
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Instacomposer 2 is an "artificial intelligence" base MIDI generator....... Let's check it out.
Get it here: www.waproduction.com/plugins/...
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5 авг 2024

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@scrapsaudio7
@scrapsaudio7 Год назад
Interesting to see where this will go. Great video!
@BigMTBrain
@BigMTBrain Год назад
PLEASE DO NOT ASSOCIATE THIS PLUGIN WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE! This plugin is NOT using a trained AI system. By all impressions, it's using basic music theory and pattern algorithms. Like a lot of companies, to catch the AI craze, they are slapping "AI" on anything that they would formerly call a human-derived "algorithm". IF this plugin were indeed employing AI trained on tens- to hundreds of thousands of audio tracks or midi tracks, the AI would've abstracted its own "music theory" during training from what is musically esthetic to real human composers and artists, not just basic theory and patterns. If it were a trained AI, the results would be MUCH more musically satisfying and interesting. Maybe the company will invest in TRUE machine learning and present a real AI-driven system in version 3.
@EdgarAdler
@EdgarAdler 8 месяцев назад
You're right, its usually a buzz word used by marketing teams. But aside from that machine learning does not equal to AI, that's just what is popular and big right now. Even an NPC in a game uses some sort of AI coding. It's in the name, artificial intelligence. It's a system that does something in an intelligent way without direct human intervention. It could use machine learning or pure algorithm or a mix of both. Instead of feeding a computer a massive database of of labeled, sorted and organized MIDI you can tell it in one line of code what a Major scale is. At the end it doesn't matter, try the demo and see if it helps with your workflow, if not move on to the next. You can blame the marketing for buzz words, more than youtubers for clickbait. Its the game.
@EdgarAdler
@EdgarAdler 8 месяцев назад
Trillions of references with years of training over several major versions, millions of dollars and the machine learning AI can't figure out how many fingers a human have. It becomes a toxic teenage when pushed and hallucinates all the time. Thats what you get with blind brute force approach to AI. That's only used when there is no better option. A mix of both world which products like this are, is the smarter option. They use big, structured databases, but also have human input and rules to follow.
@BigMTBrain
@BigMTBrain 8 месяцев назад
@@EdgarAdler "... AI can't figure out how many fingers a human [has]". Oh, my! You don't realize how far behind you are with that comment. That was solved about four or five months ago. Given that, I'll allow you to rebut your own arguments after you've taken time to catch up. I certainly won't spend time educating you; you've revealed your cards - you're a diehard naysayer until the end, regardless of the obvious fast and steady progress. Well, obvious to those who aren't naysayers simply for the sake of naysaying, willfully ignorant, or a combination of both.
@EdgarAdler
@EdgarAdler 8 месяцев назад
​@@BigMTBrain You sound like you're trying to sell me something. I'm just saying machine learning is only part of an AI system, and its the dumb part of it, not the intelligent part. I am aware of the "fixes" that they always have to do to prevent disastrous results, and the hands are just the obvious example.. You miss my point. Why a fundamental problem like that would occur in the first place? Similar to hallucination or giving aggressive answers or objectively wrong answers. It's because of the brute force and uncontrolled nature of machine learning. It's like leaving a child in a library for 10 years and telling him to read all of them. You could sit with him and read one book that will change his life in a day. Those image or language models guess what the next word is going to be, they guess what the next pixel is going to be based what they have trained seen and read. There is no thinking or understanding there. And most of those resources are not even copyrighted materials despite what they tell you. That kind of training is for some areas, in others its the least efficient way to do. Thats why I'm saying a combination of machine learning and good program, and algorithm design can do the job with 1% of the resources. It will have that human touch and control. So instead of educating me about what AI is, slow down, come down from your high horse and realize there is more to AI than ChatGPT or whatever comes next. Ask them to generate you an entire audio file of music based on all the songs it is trained on without permission. Or use practical tools that only are designed to help you find few original ideas based on musical rules and theory. See which one feels more fulfilling. At the end you have the choice, if you don't like something move on instead of shouting at everyone with caps lock on. If you think its easy, do it yourself and see how much time it takes to finish a project, and how much money you actually make from it. Small developers and companies are only doing these projects out of love and passion. Do you think anyone can make a living selling a 10$ plugin while spending 2 years developing it full time? gtfo. Peace.
@EdgarAdler
@EdgarAdler 8 месяцев назад
A few useful hints for Instacomposer 2 for anybody interested: 1. Drum map is based on standard GM mapping. 2. You can right click on any chord to show it on the chord helper section. 3. Pre Gen Mod controls, does not effect already generated tracks. 4. You can drag anywhere on the track (long section with MIDI) and dont always have to use the drag icon. 5. Remember to generate a new chord progression and MIDI output when you change the scale. Otherwise you'll get wrong notes because of the mismatch. 6. Just like here spend some time to set inspiring instruments first. A cheap out pf place sound will make anything sound terrible. 7. Send any bug reports and feature requests to the developers so they can improve it in the next versions.
@justinp.3256
@justinp.3256 7 месяцев назад
Yea for no.6 it kinda felt like the chords might've sounded better with a patch that sounded better. Not sure about the sound selection here to demo it
@DamiXa1
@DamiXa1 Год назад
LMAO The drop down said DUMS instead of DRUMS.🤣
@rorz999
@rorz999 Год назад
When? The one I saw it said 'drums'
@DamiXa1
@DamiXa1 Год назад
@@rorz999 Start at 1:21 when he clicks on the drop down to explain the choices.
@w.a.production
@w.a.production Год назад
The latest version has this fixed.. :)
@bobbydolan
@bobbydolan Год назад
Some have said that Insta contains about 50 preset patterns and they repeat after that. Do you think thats accurate? If true, there is no infinite generation of results with the randomizer. Please let me know.
@jerrydelacruz5119
@jerrydelacruz5119 Год назад
Can a midi file be loaded into a instacomposer track to use to generate the other tracks?
@MrEllipsis423
@MrEllipsis423 Год назад
Have you tried The Instrument? Would love to see a vid of that but it’s almost the same thing as this though
@lukasdiederich9304
@lukasdiederich9304 Год назад
Got it, It's okay-ish, although I do like the Audiomodern MIDI tools more
@gwugluud
@gwugluud 3 месяца назад
I guess the GUI could have a little more flair..I Guess..lol. I never noticed it looked bad or anything, but I think the layout is super simple and straightforward…I just now heard you call yourself “dumb”… I can cure you of that right now - compare yourself with me, LMAO. 🤣🤣 I’ve learned my main DAW (Reaper) well enough to get around it, and I’ve been recording with DAWs 10 years now. Before, it was my Boss BR800 and my Yamaha cassette 4-track I bought in the 90s which is still in 100% perfect shape look and sound wise. You’re probably laughing cos I still have a cassette 4-track, LOL. I think this plug-in is crazy in the GOOD sense, I like it, I guess a little more than you said you do. I’m not into the same music you are, I’m coming from 70s new wave being my main influence…But I can see you’re good at the stuff you do..I like this plug-in cos of how wide open everything is. I’ve been throwing random chords that don’t go together, plus I pick the weirdest ones (like “11th suspended minor etc) just to make SURE everything is going to come out twisted, then even when I’m actually trying to make as bad sounding a “song” as possible, what I ended up with doing an extreme experiment like that just to act like an idiot still sounded MUCH better than I expected, LOL. Oh, it sounded strange, but it still didn’t sound truly bad. I’ve heard obscure experimental jazz by Sun Ra which sounded a lot more atonal (big word that means “not sound like music” lol) than what this Instacomposer gave me after I was done. It must have a “safety” built into it to where it can’t sound bad. Also it’s funny posting songs I did using this on my channel compared to songs I played in real time, one song sounds like super basic punk rock, then the next song where I used this, out of nowhere it sounds like I can play all complex advanced jazz, lol. That’s another good use for this..someone could be a non musician who never even thinks about playing a keyboard or a guitar, and easily, easily make music using this Instacomposer.
@Emily_M81
@Emily_M81 Год назад
came for the review, but stayed for the hot takes
@BeatsWithKev
@BeatsWithKev Год назад
Save for bass lines, I liked playing around with it, especially since Captain Plugins always seem to need to constantly update. That being said, I can understand why most wouldn't gel with it.
@francoisBonin-phils
@francoisBonin-phils 7 месяцев назад
i agree with you , it can be an idea generator
@roy4286
@roy4286 Год назад
i did not see a free demo offer on the page only a but now link.
@lorcazola
@lorcazola Год назад
FRESH
@VentureNW
@VentureNW Год назад
Hey Ave, you would need BlueCat's Patchwork plugin to send all the channels in Live... and ya, its another PIA imo. I did it, like, once and then moved on to Scaler :). An Ostinato is a repeating rhythm - sort of like a phrase or a motif in Scaler. I feel you on this thing... I have yet to find an actual use of it. Have version one and I don't see the point of upgrading it to 2... still sorta sucks. Remember, opinions are like A-holes and that's mine. Haha.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Год назад
I'd like them to tighten up the genre specific stuff but I agree with your opinion
@Jordanchicity23
@Jordanchicity23 Год назад
@@AveMcree you mean you agree with his azzhole right? were talking about assholes not opinions here correct? haha
@thegreatsiberianitch
@thegreatsiberianitch Год назад
How come no one can't just make music and be happy? "Continue to sharpen a blade, and it's edge will soon blunt."
@Michael_Lak
@Michael_Lak 11 месяцев назад
How come one can't understand songwriting tools. Just writing boring jazz?
@c3ajeff
@c3ajeff 6 месяцев назад
I couldn't get it to work with Ableton either.
@waggabutt4655
@waggabutt4655 Год назад
Ave, I can't see it. I'm biased because I can play a few chords but everytime I see AI in action it's always the standard 3 note chords glued to the grid like a ribeye hittin a hot ass grill. Save $30 and write three 1 note chords on your own and play with em.
@BigMTBrain
@BigMTBrain Год назад
The company's use of the term "AI" in relation to their product is completely misleading. As far as I can tell, they've employed only basic music theory and pattern sampling algorithms. Very basic. Don't let such smearing of "AI" tarnish your own opinion of what the trajectory and benefits of real AI is and can be.
@daviHuggMonster
@daviHuggMonster Год назад
I did have my eye on that one. but it is like captain plugins and the orb suite. but this one has all in one interface. the principle is the same, the others just use 4-5 different plugins...if you do not own any of the mentioned this once could be the one to get.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Год назад
yeah it's like all the other stuff but meh
@Barrygraybeatz
@Barrygraybeatz Год назад
No... no it's not.... this dude is just picky as he'll 😅I keep wondering why I click on this dudes videos but they keep popping up but hey.... no one these days can't keep ish 100
@mastaboog749
@mastaboog749 Год назад
Yo whens the mpc version?
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Год назад
it's called pad perform
@xykosince9213
@xykosince9213 Год назад
Never mind
@admntsound
@admntsound Год назад
“I’m not here to be teaching nobody”
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Год назад
I’m not but there’s a video made by WA production on how to use it
@xykosince9213
@xykosince9213 Год назад
No audio bro
@Jordanchicity23
@Jordanchicity23 Год назад
Troubleshoot the problem using these 5 simple steps.. 1.. First make sure that your ears are plugged in and switched to the on position, (located behind left lobe if purchased in U.S. behind right butt cheek if purchased in China). 2. Second step: remove any foreign objects that may be clogging your ears' passageway. 3. Third step: check pulse to make sure you are indeed alive and well enough to perform step five. 5.Step five: it might be a good thing to double check if you took all your daily prescribed medications. If so, make sure your listening device is indeed turned on and volume is on full blast. Hope this helps. Good luck and happy listening bro! P.S. I forgot to mention step 4 perhaps the most important one of all. 4. Step four have a neighbor, friend, or relative verify that your head and ears are not currently completely submerged in a bowl of cereal as it can greatly obstruct any potential sound waves from entering your field of listening.
@THA-REAPER
@THA-REAPER Год назад
Sound didn't encode yet?
@mastergroshi6277
@mastergroshi6277 Год назад
They don’t do demos most times because they pirates will figure out a way to bypass the activation
@DodgaOfficial
@DodgaOfficial Год назад
Wa productions is the most low tier company ever, I just don't use anything from them anymore because their plugins and samples are just so low effort. Better to spend more for way more quality than to spend money on plugins like these that you'll most likely never use
@Sneakycat1971
@Sneakycat1971 8 месяцев назад
It needs midi import
@havemoney
@havemoney Год назад
Did he hate the monkey?
@almightyyotto
@almightyyotto Год назад
AI doesn't have any rhythm at all lmao. but this is still good for a beginner that want to get into music production tho
@romixsm
@romixsm Год назад
As musisian for 35 years... i can say, my dear BroTHrs.... If you try to fiind Melody WiCH SOUNDS for a soul... in the mind of AI... you are loosing your development as a Creator... because... IT DOES NOT SING inside... when it is "wring".... Human brain also combines some.... sems (semantic structures).... mems..... BUT OUR BRAIN IS ALIVE and it is in connect with our Soul.... So... Brain are to combine... the soul are to Choose. AI.... just gonna replace your skill and emotion feeling with just combinatoric algo..... THERE IS the difference... if it makes any sense.
@towerrunner4675
@towerrunner4675 Год назад
AI makes offers, and we pick what "our brain says". So it's basically the same process like choosing a sample. That's why music AI is no groundbreaking stuff to me. PS: Nice to see Ave on Ableton - it's a trend. 😁
@admntsound
@admntsound Год назад
Damn. You sound like that guy from that twitter beef. If this was a fire beat response then this would have been dope. Sounds more like a paid review of a mid plugin.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Год назад
They didn’t pay me. Matter of fact, if you watched the video. You know that I didn’t like the plugin.
@KaiLabs
@KaiLabs Год назад
It's funny. There are many ways Instacomposer 2 could be improved on. But you just ignore all the ways how to adjust the generative algorithm to your needs and expect it to read your mind anyway and make something to please you. 🤷‍♂ I have no idea how a generated bass line can be judged as I am just a mediocre guy dabbling with all kinds of plugins. But seeing you not even try and then dismiss the generated bass lines makes me wonder. 🤔
@the_poty
@the_poty Год назад
"LIKE" 178
@futureworldmachines4407
@futureworldmachines4407 Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@danatello8489
@danatello8489 Год назад
I love the irony in that your first criticism is the GUI meanwhile you're working in Ableton 😂. When you mentioned that doesn't mean it's not effective, I legit expected you to minimize the plugin so the DAW was in view or something
@BeatsAndGuitars
@BeatsAndGuitars Год назад
Beef with Dibiase? Wow just being honest you done lost your mind bro
@hey.itsathul
@hey.itsathul Год назад
bro doesn't know what an ostinato is and calls himself a producer?
@AveMcree
@AveMcree Год назад
You think every professional producer cares about proper musical terminology? 😂🤡
@Rosa-hf8jq
@Rosa-hf8jq Год назад
I'm sure he'd rather be honest and catch internet wreck rather than be full of shit on the internet ..
@sadarahurh8794
@sadarahurh8794 Год назад
AGREE ! UI sucks, sucks, sucks !
@remyvegamedia
@remyvegamedia Год назад
AI is whack on all counts.
@Xsynth
@Xsynth Год назад
Man we about to be swarmed in this mediocre shit. Stay strong brother.
@hitorsh1t
@hitorsh1t 4 месяца назад
A demo using someone who ain’t got a clue
@datapointsoftware4920
@datapointsoftware4920 Год назад
Niece presentation, but,... this program.....ahrtgrthdtgdthtr!!! .............no improvements in colors and UI, really bad :-( Dark, gloomy, unreadable. Virtual keyboard- OMG what is this dark crap ? When people finally learn to design usable interfaces ???
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