Installing a JessEm TS Precision Cut Stock Guides to an Incra TSLS Fence - A Better Way - Table Saw 

Casey, thank you. I appreciate your comments. I hope it works out for you as well as it has for me. Enjoy.

@trevdukes Hello Trev, I’m glad my video helped. I thought my idea might work on other fences but didn’t know for sure. If you are successful please send me some photos. I’d love to share them with my viewers. In fact I’m currently working on a follow up video on the JessEm Guides on an Incra fence. As for finding my video, unfortunately, I’m still a very small channel on RU-vid so my videos are sometimes hard to find. I’m working on that. 😀

I’m glad the video helped. Just so you’re aware, there is a maximum height above the saw table that the arms can be placed. Fortunately I was within the dimension. It may be mentioned on JessEm’s website or you can check with their customer service.

I’m glad this helped and hope the fix works for you. Thank you for letting me know.

@@wb_finewoodworking It works flawlessly! I honestly think the hardest part was finding an offcut long enough to work with lol. JessEm really should stop making the mounting kit for an Incra fence and just point their customers to this video. Simple and effective. Amazing.

@@mkbcoolman Super! I’m glad my idea worked for you. Enjoy! Thanks for letting me know.

Thanks - Just simple problem solving and years of experience. Glad you liked it.

Theodore, I never stated that the issue I had was wide spread. Many have used the JessEm adaptor on a SawStop with no issues. My Incra fence is a custom fence that was made just for me because the Incra fence that was offered when I purchased my SawStop was too short for the larger saw table. All I was pointing out in this video is the issue I ran into and how I decided to remedy it. When I did I thought that I actually came up with perhaps a better way to mount the guides to an Incra fence. Others, who didn’t have my initial problem have agreed and installed their JessEm guides the same way. I’m glad the TSLS has worked out for you. For me it was a must for my SawStop because I wanted the best fence system for it. Instead of buying the SawStop fence, which was an extra cost at the time I bought my saw, I went with the Incra and have enjoyed using it. Enjoy.

@@wb_finewoodworking I am sorry I said anything at all. It seems like if you were explaining that you had a custom fence because your table is deeper than the average then that would be OK with your issue and how you fixed it but you never said or I didn’t catch it, sorry for all my input. It was wrong.

@@theodorehartman5086 Your input was fine. I was explaining why my case might be different than most. I value any input. It’s important to find out what others think. I’m sorry if my reply offended you.

@@wb_finewoodworking Its all good. Those with the Incra Fence system know just how good it can be. Everyone has set up issues because the Incra Fence system was not designed for one brand or another. I have mine on a $700.00 delta that took me 3 hours to set up and it cuts just as well as a Sawstop or laguna and is just as smooth at way less cost. Regardless, for those that have the Incra system know just how good it is. I am very happy with my 2 week old system. BTW I ordered mine 10 days ago and it arrived 5 days later so the 4 to 8 month delay is in the rearview.

@@theodorehartman5086 Enjoy!

@ Larry Gault - Outstanding Larry. Thanks for letting me know about your modification. If possible please send me some photos. I’m planning on a shop update next week and would love to share your idea with my viewers. Thank you.

Thank you.

Wally Schustte - Thank you for watching. I appreciate your comments on my editing. Yes, I do it all and it does take a lot of time in post production. My wife, Pam, has no computer skills and we don’t have children or relatives that can edit my videos. It’s something I enjoy doing and I’m glad you think it helps. Grinding down the positioned bracket might have been an option but the screws that hold the fence to the positioned are attached through long slots in that bracket. Grinding down the top might have weakened that bracket enough to have caused more problems. Secondly I’m not a fan of angle grinders. Based on my skills with one it would have been difficult grinding down that bracket and not taking a chunk out of the top of the Incra fence. I also wanted to move the JessEm rail back from the face of the fence and using the JessEm riser blocks for that wouldn’t have worked. In the end the way I attached the JessEm rail makes it much quicker and easier to remove and reattach. My method used two t-nut knobs and the JessEm riser blocks require bathe removal of eight screws with a special hex screwdriver. I’m working on a video on the white marker that I used in that video and a white lead mechanical pencil. In the past I used a regular white pencil, as in one that is sharpened by a pencil sharpener, which was OK but I like that marker and another white lead mechanical pencil much better. There is a video on my channel on the white pencil but you’ll have to wait for the video on my two newer white markers.

Thanks for the comment Jeff. I hope this method works out for you.

Thank you for the feedback. I haven’t gotten back to the push sticks question yet but have several designs and patterns to explore.

Thanks.

My goal is to buy the best tools I can new for as little as possible. While that might seem a little ironic it’s worked well for me. As for the Festool sander, I got tired of my Bosch being in for repair for a new switch under warranty and demanded my money back so I opted for the best available at the time.

Thanks. 😃

@kensheppard. Thank you Ken for the comment. I appreciate it.

Thanks. I appreciate feedback.

Thank you for watching. I’m glad the video helped. I appreciate the complements.

@@wb_finewoodworking ...pls keep us posted on the push stick that you settle on, and a link to the white pencil 👍

@@fpr283 I have not had a chance to try out any push stick designs yet. Hopefully starting next week I’ll be out in the shop more. When I test some I will make a video of the ones I test with my comments. Here’s the link to the white pencil video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_kIco7gbjjg.html

Thanks for watching Dave. My hope with all the detail that others could easily repeat or modify what I did for their fence. At first I wasn’t sure what you meant about the fence lifting untilI went back and looked at the clips closely. That’s a good catch. It looks like it lifted just a little as the wood passed under the second guide. That can be “fixed” by making the connection of the fence on the back rail a little tighter and I also didn’t tighten the one on the front rail at all. When I actually make cuts I tighten it down. This is something I’ll need to be aware of if I’m cutting thin boards. Otherwise I don’t think it will be a problem. I’ll watch it closely when I cut the cherry and quarter sawn oak this week for some frames that Pam wants. As for mag switches, the Incra fence is extruded aluminum so that won’t work. You’re very observant. Thanks for letting me know.

@@wb_finewoodworking can you explain what David Stanton talking about, may be could help in the future

@@jeffkeskeaw4027 David is a highly experienced and observant woodworker. He noticed while watching the video that the Incra fence raises slightly off of the table of the saw as I pushed the wood through when I demonstrated the guides. The lifting seemed to happen only when the board reached the back guide. The movement was really not enough to make a difference. Since then I haven’t noticed it happening again or if the movement is so slight it’s something I don’t notice.

I agree Kevin. They are going to add another level of safety to my SawStop. Thanks for watching.

@@wb_finewoodworking I have a Sawstop 3hp pcs coming Wednesday. My old Grizzly will become a dedicated dado saw.

Hi Ron. It’s very possible that your positioner sticks up less than mine does. My Indra fence is a custom job. I got it soon after SawStop saws were available and, according to Incra, the first person to request a fence to match the deeper table on a SawStop. If you look closely at my video you’ll notice that my fence extends well beyond the top of the saw in the back. An Incra customer service rep arranged for that extra length on the fence for me at no extra cost. It was at least a year before Incra started offering a SawStop version of the fence which is now called their XL version. Personally I like my solution of mounting the JessEm guides better than Incra’s solution. It’s easier to take it off and put it back on the fence plus I get that 3/4” setback from the face of the fence. Admittedly it’s a more difficult process initially.

That would have been a way to fix it. At the time I obviously didn’t think of that and I didn’t have any small washers. One reason I made the video is to show my solution which I still feel is a much better way to mount the JessEm Guides. Just remove two large jig “nuts” two large washers and it’s off. With the JessEm kit there are eight screws and risers and if I added your washers that would be at least two per riser, perhaps more, to attain the right height. As someone else responded, I have the guides off and on often.

Barry, thank you for the complements snd information. I especially appreciate your comment on the different camera angles. Doing that really adds time to both recording and editing videos but I enjoy the challenge. It makes the task more fun for me and more interesting to viewers like you. I have to agree that the Incra fence is still the best on the market. I haven't noticed that the extra weight makes moving my fence more difficult to slide but I can see where some might see that as an issue. Perhaps I don't even think about it.

Fred, I’m not sure what size the t-bolts are. If I get a chance I’ll check tomorrow. My shop is locked up for the night.

Cutting the rail is a possibility I guess. It’s very strong steel so I don’t currently own a tool that could easily make such a cut. Actually cutting or grinding down the piece that’s sticking was an option but I decided not to do that. Actually I’m finding that having the rail on the board is the perfect solution. It makes removal and replacement of the rail very quick and easy. Since that’s something that happens fairly often I’m very glad I went with this solution.

The the arm must stay parallel to the top of the saw. If I lowered the bracket the extender would not be parallel so it wouldn’t work. To keep it parallel and lower bracket the rails would have to be lowered. I actually like the way it is. Taking the guides off and putting them back on is very easy and convenient. That one of the reasons I had for saying that I think this is a better way to mount the guides.

Absolutely not for a radial arm saw. It wasn’t designed for one.

Thank you for the comments. Cutting the JessEm rail could be an option but that wouldn’t have moved it away from the face of the fence. By doing what I did I solved both problems. Yes, the JessEm guides are pricy. That’s why it took a long time and a good sale for me to buy them.

It may have looked like that on camera because of the angle and it was awkward getting that shot for some reason. I made sure that they were at 30 when I set them permanently. .

Smokey - Thank you for the comment. Evidently the kit the company sells works for most table saws. It just didn’t on the way my fence is set up on my SawStop. In the end I’ve found this workaround to be much better because it’s much easier to remove the JessEm guides when necessary.

According to the Incra website the measuring scale for their fences is only available in Imperial. That’s mainly due to the fact that the lead screw locks down the fence at 1/32nd of an inch increments. They have never had a metric lead screw.

From Incra website: Choose from 1/32" imperial or 1mm metric positioning mechanics below, so you can pick metric. If you already have one you can buy a conversion kit - they are around hundred bucks.

@@japansh Thanks for the information. I somehow missed that.

Interesting alternate solution. The Walnut was essentially free because it was a piece of scrap with a very plain grain pattern. Another problem I have is that my fence was custom made for me by Incra. It was their first for the deep table on a SawStop. The actually made it longer than the fences they currently make for the saw. I also like the ease of removing the JessEm Guides which I have already done at least a couple of times when they would have been in the way.

Yes, that’s an option. It’s one I did briefly consider. Unfortunately the Stock Guide rail is a very beefy piece of metal. Cutting it wouldn’t have been as easy as it looks nor do I have what I feel would be the necessary tools to do it right. I actually like my solution better for what I needed. The guides are very easy to remove and attach as needed. I’m very happy with my solution.