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Installing Hardwood Floors on Concrete 

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We install a hardwood floor on concrete using the direct stick method. The floor clamps come in really handy. They make the job quick and easy. You can hire them from the timber supplier. Once it is laid we call in the help of some experts to sand and polish the floor. In all a great job. The finished floor looks brilliant.
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@davidharlass5984
@davidharlass5984 3 года назад
We did this 16 years ago with Brazilian Cherry in a north Texas home and not one board has come loose or shifted. It is a very solid floor. The house was already 20 years old and the concrete moisture was well within the recommended limits. No moisture barrier was required.
@iowafarmbros
@iowafarmbros Год назад
If you don’t mind me asking, did you fasten it like these guys did?
@thomcollis5213
@thomcollis5213 3 года назад
Followed these instructions to lay my floor - great job, thank you!
@almeal406
@almeal406 2 года назад
These guys look like a cross between Pen and Teller and Tim and Al from tool time. haha :D
@thehillsx1
@thehillsx1 4 года назад
Good to see hale and pace are still earning a few quid
@nicholasgannas5018
@nicholasgannas5018 2 года назад
Ha, spot on!
@21Rodge
@21Rodge 2 года назад
Hahahahaha
@leeham1480
@leeham1480 8 лет назад
So professional I love it
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 2 года назад
Their overalls are awesome.
@gundersonflooringanddesign4064
Practices and standards in America don't recommend installing raw tongue and groove flooring directly over concrete. For best results we would use an engineered product which would be a type of plywood as a base and a top surface of the wood of choice. It is dimensionally stable. Most likely installing a raw wood over a concrete floor will result in extreme expansion on the width of the floor. I would be curious to know how this floor performed years later.
@ShineMedia1
@ShineMedia1 2 года назад
I love the comedy aspect too thanks very helpful 👍
@MikeHughesShooter
@MikeHughesShooter 3 месяца назад
I heard the English accents started out with some English humor and I subscribed straightaway
@sonnyfinch1625
@sonnyfinch1625 6 лет назад
Channel is called DIY. ~"lets call the experts"
@malcolmjames7388
@malcolmjames7388 3 года назад
Good diy video. Thanks
@DesignForVision
@DesignForVision 3 года назад
Nice Job ....Thanks!!!
@muqadarkhan1542
@muqadarkhan1542 7 лет назад
verry good sir
@markrossmiller9757
@markrossmiller9757 3 года назад
What's it like to remove that flooring when glued to concrete?
@BradThePitts
@BradThePitts 4 года назад
Mates - before sanding, did you need to wait a day for the glue to cure, or could you carry on straight away?
@earnestprole9461
@earnestprole9461 4 года назад
I shall call him "Mini-Me"
@woodworker-org-uk
@woodworker-org-uk 3 месяца назад
Ok to answer a load of questions, the concrete floor needs sealing with a primer, in the UK all concrete floors are insulated underneath the concrete slab. The primer acts as a sealer to stop moisture, the glue is also waterproof, the glue is also flexible, to allow for expansion off the wood throughout the seasonal temperatures and moisture. Always leave a expansion cap around the room edges, NEVER nail like these guys did, your stopping the floor from moving, it will fail and crack, and boards will come apart creating gaps along the joints. Hope this helps a few people.
@sdean88888
@sdean88888 2 года назад
I do have a question if you glow down your hardwood floor on concreate, do you need a gap between of the floor and the wall
@therealboxinggrind942
@therealboxinggrind942 2 года назад
What type nails did you use and what size drill bit was used to drill the holes?
@iotaultsch2758
@iotaultsch2758 8 лет назад
Can you guys please do my floor in the Hunter Valley?
@leesam6172
@leesam6172 6 лет назад
where can i buy those yellow CLAMPS look on internet and could not find them. Thanks Johnnie
@bonmarseille1991
@bonmarseille1991 7 лет назад
So how do I locate gas and heating pipes first?
@Miguel...160
@Miguel...160 3 года назад
Damp proof membrane ( DPM) should be used everytime on concrete/ sand cement before laying wood .
@josephtrankina4534
@josephtrankina4534 2 года назад
the glue acts as the membrane, that's why it is screeded across the entire floor
@Miguel...160
@Miguel...160 2 года назад
@@josephtrankina4534 the glue is for bonding the wood to the floor . A DPM is for forming a damp proof membrane between the adhesive and the concrete. You can't have something acting as a DPM if its not a DPM.
@zetsumeinaito
@zetsumeinaito 2 года назад
@@Miguel...160 You mean the polyurethane glue, which is always advertised as waterproof and is troweled on doesn't count? Seems like it'd be fine. What you're basically saying is you want the wood floor to float as it's adhered to the DPM instead of the floor. Which is an option if the DPM can handle the expansion/contraction of the wood, but not for that floor system, and quite expensive in 2013 when this was filmed. It 'seems' fine to me, but I wouldn't put a wood floor in my basement(which is where I have concrete. Had several leaks over the years, and the wood would just soak it up and rot. It'd go with a vinyl floating floor, just so I don't have to replace chunks of wood every time there's a leak. Or resin.
@oliverleslie7382
@oliverleslie7382 2 года назад
@@zetsumeinaito yes of course. If u just went with a membrane, the adhesive would only adhere to that and be useless - the membrane would be the weakest link.
@zetsumeinaito
@zetsumeinaito 2 года назад
@@oliverleslie7382 You generally get what you pay for on that.
@majstrujeme8352
@majstrujeme8352 5 лет назад
What the heck? I get it with some specialized glues that act as a water barrier you can get away with direct to concrete installations but man drilling down nailing straight through that is just hack job
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 2 года назад
Concrete nails work well, depends on the concrete though.. if there are river rocks in the mix - forget it.
@zetsumeinaito
@zetsumeinaito 2 года назад
@@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 He's probably thinking about the punching a hole through the water barrier to put in those nails.
@davedennis6042
@davedennis6042 4 года назад
For those who are commenting on the flooring on concrete, I am sure you are not speaking from experience but rather by way of some assumed info from some flooring company in the years passed. My sister owns a very old house and the kitchen has T & G hardwood floors. It was glued down without a vapor barrier. The floors were put down centuries before my sister got it. It has never been a problem. HOWEVER, I would recommend doing the vapor barrier.
@bairyhalls00
@bairyhalls00 10 месяцев назад
Soon as he marked that jamb I knew he didn’t know enough for me to benefit. Good luck…
@donegalireland3336
@donegalireland3336 5 лет назад
Solid boards should always be fixed to timber battens.
@truthserum5202
@truthserum5202 2 года назад
Good luck, it's only a matter of time when this floor begins to buckle. You both would have been well advised to to roll two coats of sealer on the concrete, let it dry a minimum of 24 hours, then glue down the floor with flooring mastic. Good flooring mastic will cost you $150 - $170 US for a 5 gallon bucket. Better yet, use a pre-finished hardwood floor to guarantee not having any issues with regards to moisture.
@32lilbruce
@32lilbruce 8 лет назад
which glue would you recommend that is moisture proof on concrete?
@showerhead2
@showerhead2 9 лет назад
while I realise that laying (gluing) solid boards direct to concrete is not as ideal as nailing and gluing to a timber substrate I have a small section of suspended concrete slab which was put in as part of an extension to the house and at the same level with the old timber floor over which I am gluing and nailing a new floor - I'd like to look into and try this method to avoid securing a timber substrate to the concrete and therefore a raised step - what is the type of glue which is required?
@chrisenright7003
@chrisenright7003 9 лет назад
David Morgan Polyurethane - www.mapei.com/GB-EN/Products-for-Wooden-Floors/Adhesives-for-the-installation-of-wood-and-laminate-Flooring
@oldschooldiy3240
@oldschooldiy3240 3 года назад
I do believe I would have painted before laying the new floor! Things are done different "across the pond", I guess.......
@ralphjenkins370
@ralphjenkins370 3 года назад
Glue is the vapour barrier. Better adhesion without the paint. I think..
@mattdasilva1085
@mattdasilva1085 2 года назад
@@ralphjenkins370 he was talking about the walls 😁
@howardchislett2243
@howardchislett2243 9 лет назад
What is the point of leaving a 10mm expansion gap between the first board and the wall when you nail the first row down into concrete?
@lukeskywalker1674
@lukeskywalker1674 8 лет назад
+Howard Chislett I agree it sounds weird, But the wood will expand and shrink with high and low temps even though its nailed in on concrete.
@peterpeersman4931
@peterpeersman4931 6 лет назад
Howard Chislett bh
@silentndeadly
@silentndeadly 4 года назад
those are little highways for spiders and cockroaches.
@chrislambe400
@chrislambe400 3 года назад
@@silentndeadly Good point. Laying my floor now. I will cover those 10 mm gaps in diatomaceous earth. That will kill any insects there forever
@gulzeb
@gulzeb 3 года назад
@@chrislambe400 diatomaceous earth is bad for lungs, not a great idea to use this way
@jhp1100
@jhp1100 Месяц назад
Hi, what kind of nails are you using?
@woodbrassandglass
@woodbrassandglass 7 лет назад
What type of glue did you use??
@WillLeingang
@WillLeingang 6 лет назад
Sikaflex 228
@maclellanjason
@maclellanjason 5 лет назад
Dan Bull
@rob5896
@rob5896 4 года назад
Did he just drill through a pipe in the floor? 0.43
@frknrkn27
@frknrkn27 Год назад
What brand of jacks are those?
@jaycoy59
@jaycoy59 4 года назад
The little guy had a twin brother, but the big guy ate him. Little guy has been sworn to silence, and fears being eaten.
@randallpaul6559
@randallpaul6559 6 лет назад
first where is the vapor barrier and why nail the first rung.
@beticusmagnus8673
@beticusmagnus8673 9 лет назад
I was looking to learn how the best way is to fit the guards around the perimeter of the walls - the guards that mask the floor boards mating to the wall surface.
@sahmadi1000
@sahmadi1000 8 лет назад
How far apart you nail the first board?
@MiguelRodriguez-zx6dy
@MiguelRodriguez-zx6dy 7 лет назад
sahmadi1000 1/4 inch
@juniornoel96
@juniornoel96 5 лет назад
I get a similar job, may I have your contact ?
@cristomario9118
@cristomario9118 7 лет назад
Does anyone know if they've used concrete nails in the pre drilled holes?
@WillLeingang
@WillLeingang 6 лет назад
They look like galvanized finish nails
@dougthebuilder1
@dougthebuilder1 2 года назад
was this filmed in the 1980's!?
@saml951
@saml951 6 лет назад
eh? left any space for expansion ?
@davedennis6042
@davedennis6042 4 года назад
Ummm.... first part of the video? 1:34
@BanjoRedneck
@BanjoRedneck 10 лет назад
Fucking nice looking floor
@lukeskywalker1674
@lukeskywalker1674 8 лет назад
This is the old school way of installing hardwood floors. Nobody does solid hardwood on concrete anymore, instead add a subfloor then solid hardwood floor. You can get away with doing that with "engineered hardwood floor" directly on concrete though.
@jacksonmstrong1
@jacksonmstrong1 2 года назад
why? what role does the subfloor serve on top of concrete?
@jennmichelle70
@jennmichelle70 4 года назад
We’re here to pump (clap) you up!
@weekendwarrior3420
@weekendwarrior3420 Год назад
You guys have done this before, haven't you?
@george78779
@george78779 3 года назад
I didn’t know Penn and Teller do DIY......lol....😂
@MyGTbackpack
@MyGTbackpack 8 месяцев назад
You have to tape the hardwood to keep it tight... Then remove the tape 24 hours later.
@borisnemtsov1470
@borisnemtsov1470 5 лет назад
Why so unhappy about that pencil and ruler at 2:04?
@awakedust
@awakedust 7 лет назад
Looks like they're just nailing regular galvanized finish nails into the concrete? Anybody ever tried that? Success? I'd like to do exactly that if it works...
@highballband4240
@highballband4240 4 года назад
He predrilled, so it is more like a holding pin
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 2 года назад
Will definitely work with the right pilot hole.. galvanized nails lock solid when they get damp.
@esterfam1621
@esterfam1621 7 лет назад
Dude, paint the walls FIRST!! then put in the flooring... Duh
@ACitizenOfOurWorld
@ACitizenOfOurWorld 3 года назад
You really want to have all that sanding dust kicked up onto the walls and ceilings. Seems easier to just throw a dropcloth down and paint after the floor is done.
@dannersmyers
@dannersmyers 8 лет назад
Warning! Do not install hardwood floors in your basement, even on top of a subfloor. The moisture levels are two great during the summer months and even engineered hardwood flooring will look like garbage just a couple years. What they are doing here can be done on top of concrete as long as it's not in the basement or bottom level of the building. This is a common practice in condos because the concrete floor is far above the lower level of the structure, avoiding moisture issues.
@benweinman9853
@benweinman9853 8 лет назад
what about in a garden shed with a concrete floor
@dannersmyers
@dannersmyers 8 лет назад
+Ben Weinman I wouldn't recommend it, but if it's a garden shed, I wouldn't say it would have to be to code. Do what u will. But know that in 2-3years it could be pretty warped and twisted.
@benweinman9853
@benweinman9853 8 лет назад
hats not a problem got any suggestions for flooring
@dannersmyers
@dannersmyers 8 лет назад
+Ben Weinman assuming that you already have a concrete slab, personally I would leave it bare concrete, lay patio stone with sand or some sort of a garage floor treatment, basically an epoxy paint. things I wouldn't recommend: 1 Laying any sort of laminate/wood floor 2 laying tile Laying tile in a basement would be fine but outside if you live in a cold climate the freeze and thaw cycle would probably make it crack. Hope I could help out!
@benweinman9853
@benweinman9853 8 лет назад
okay thanks man it did
@kithkin01
@kithkin01 5 лет назад
hodor and bilbo
@peterlohnes1
@peterlohnes1 Год назад
imagine trying to remove this
@samgee5908
@samgee5908 7 лет назад
whats up with the floor sanders swag? sanding in shorts, brown ankle high strap mini boots ,with blue dress socks lol
@tigertrucker3971
@tigertrucker3971 5 лет назад
Upper lumpers
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 2 года назад
You should see the ridiculous outfits i sand in.. keeps customers far away and they never bother you.
@JohnBoysGold
@JohnBoysGold Год назад
@@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 "Wow that psycho sure can put down a great floor"
@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975
@@JohnBoysGold exactly
@justbreakingballs
@justbreakingballs 3 года назад
Won’t it open up at those butt joints?
@primalfury2011
@primalfury2011 6 лет назад
hehe u guys look like penn and teller
@michaelwest6238
@michaelwest6238 6 лет назад
primalfury2011 I thought that to
@stayjit1
@stayjit1 7 лет назад
The biggest value for a concrete basement is ceramic tile.
@stayjit1
@stayjit1 7 лет назад
Cold? boo hoo. Ceramic holds very well to concrete, and it's an excellent conductor for a radiant heated. floor.I'm not a tile setter but I've designed a few and there's no end to the looks you can achieve. On walkout basements ceramic makes a good solar heat trap if the orientation of the house is right. As for 'cold', put on a pair of slippers. Better yet, one or more Persian Rug types on the floor will define areas and add to a warmer feel. And when I say Tile, I include porcelain, terra cotta and slate.
@colemantowns6618
@colemantowns6618 3 года назад
@@stayjit1 better they have some experience before trying to lay slate tile..could be very heart breaking, along with the slate
@surferdjnj
@surferdjnj 4 года назад
LOL. uses the wall as a way to get a "Straight" line for the rest of the boards. WRONG, I'm out!
@aaronacj
@aaronacj 4 года назад
My house was built in 1908, I was like nope! you beat me to the post.
@barbaracarol485
@barbaracarol485 3 года назад
It's not recommended in USA to attach hardwood to a cement slab. There will be problems with that floor in the future.
@mej974
@mej974 8 лет назад
Bulk and skull have done well for themselves, now the power rangers have retired
@jaroldacosta
@jaroldacosta 2 года назад
Im not an expert on any of these. As a matter of fact, more tiles over concrete tradition but now living in a different climate (very humid in summertime) I wouldn't install the expensive wooden floor on a concrete slab. I would first add strips along the floor and then plywood boards on top letting moisture to run underneath then subfloor then the wooden floor on top. With the moisture coming out of the slab, it could mess your entire floor in two three years. I think this video is very outdated, but ok. Thanks for posting it
@johng9562
@johng9562 4 года назад
The failure rate is north of 70% when installing real 100% hardwood flooring on concrete. Always use ENGINEERED hardwood as it's the only hardwood that will stand the test of time.
@johng9562
@johng9562 4 года назад
Even if Red Guard eliminated the failure rate (which it doesn't) it's cost prohibitive. It's cheaper, better, and perfectly reliable (trifecta of a good decision here) to just add a layer plywood and attach the floor it.
@johng9562
@johng9562 4 года назад
What I said is true: The failure rate is north of 70% when installing real 100% hardwood flooring on concrete. Always use ENGINEERED hardwood as it's the only hardwood that will stand the test of time.
@johng9562
@johng9562 4 года назад
A layer of plywood is the only way to glue 100% hardwood to concrete. Just using red guard is not enough.
@JohnBoysGold
@JohnBoysGold Год назад
@@johng9562 Glue the plywood and then glue the floor?
@dbeaulieu9730
@dbeaulieu9730 6 лет назад
Installing hardwood directly over concrete is a bad idea. Concrete can change moisture levels without notice and transfer that moisture to your wood floors.The result is not pretty.
@kszaczyszcz
@kszaczyszcz 8 месяцев назад
Wood also changes moisture levels
@rogernovelo7521
@rogernovelo7521 5 лет назад
mario and luigi 👌lol
@cliffcarlo180
@cliffcarlo180 8 лет назад
You can install solid wood boards that come complete with professional finishes these days, no need for all this bullshit.
@alderaz7049
@alderaz7049 4 года назад
People do not do this. It is totally wrong, all wrong. Wood will expand and contract and over concrete you will need air to flow underneath using 3/4 tongue and grove plywood. Screwed to the floor and start In the middle of the room. Use wood spacers to reverse the staple down position.
@JohnBoysGold
@JohnBoysGold Год назад
No glue on the tongue & groove? Just screws will hold all the warpage down over time?
@alexmorgan3435
@alexmorgan3435 5 лет назад
Where's the membrane? Why nail the 1st board to the floor? Cowboys.
@schoon111
@schoon111 5 лет назад
That concrete is on the earth? I call bs on this technique.
@julieliu8206
@julieliu8206 3 года назад
nails.on.top? oh no..
@philipmarchalquizar2386
@philipmarchalquizar2386 4 года назад
Super Mario. clickbait
@ForgingMyLife
@ForgingMyLife 3 года назад
Wow, that was bloody horrible. Thanks for wasting my time. Never get that back 🤣🤣
@fetozunamk4026
@fetozunamk4026 7 лет назад
bollocks!! How many regular household will be able to have such a professional job to be done? get real mate, this is not good for every one!!!
@woodworker-org-uk
@woodworker-org-uk 3 месяца назад
Ok lol what about expansion of the wood nailing will not help!!
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