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Installing outlets on a kitchen island 

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@R900DZ
@R900DZ Месяц назад
Good job, I see this was 3 years ago so still on 2020 NEC. The 2023 NEC no longer allows this type of installation. The requirement for kitchen island receptacles was removed and if you are going to install one, it must be the pop-up type on top of the countertop. Too many cases of people tripping over wires and getting burned and killed by crock pots and such.
@gyakusetsu
@gyakusetsu 2 года назад
Great tutorial! I was convinced that outlets weren't allowed to be installed on bare cabinets like that for the longest time, but properly encased in conduit like that makes it way safer than I was imagining it could be. Was able to follow these steps almost exactly to put an outlet in my new island and wire it down to an existing GFI junction in my unfinished basement.
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
Glad to hear that! And yes, even though I didn’t mention the word GFCI in the video, it is required that the 20 amp appliance circuits in the kitchen are all on a GFCI protected circuit. Thanks for the comment 👍
@MicahMcLellan
@MicahMcLellan 2 года назад
This was super helpful! Thanks for the clear step-by-step instructions!
@landonlandon5533
@landonlandon5533 Год назад
I also wanted to say this is far better then the last video I saw where the guy just ran bare wire in the cabinet. 😆
@zechariahhambone3841
@zechariahhambone3841 2 года назад
Thanks for video. Just put in a kitchen island. Planning for 2 outlets. The easiest available power I have access to is an outdoor gfci with a regular outlook next to it on a 20 amp circuit which only runs a pool filter and saltwater generator. There are no building codes in my county to worry about but safety is a concern.
@Freedom20244
@Freedom20244 3 года назад
Nice and clear steps done. Good job
@ckkelby
@ckkelby 2 года назад
Awesome and thank you for the help sir!
@wlambert43
@wlambert43 2 года назад
Great video. Thanks. Just what I needed.
@kilowattrob
@kilowattrob 2 года назад
Nice job. So many times I see amatures post on you tube. You are obviously a tradesman!
@anthonywheelus4845
@anthonywheelus4845 2 года назад
Great video, thanks.
@islander_girLe
@islander_girLe Год назад
Thank you sir! You just saved me $300.
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
Glad I could help!
@heroknaderi
@heroknaderi 2 года назад
Nice job 👍
@jeanlenkemusic
@jeanlenkemusic 2 года назад
Very helpful thank you 👏🏼
@DeadeyeDaily
@DeadeyeDaily Год назад
Thank you SO much!!
@greggdantonio4339
@greggdantonio4339 9 месяцев назад
Good stuff. Thanks
@rogerboz
@rogerboz 2 года назад
Quick question: I could not see from your video whether the top of the plastic pipe was rigidly connected to the plastic box. I've seen lock nuts used, but you did not seem to need one? Great video.
@johnpayne3661
@johnpayne3661 Год назад
Use metal boxes and metal clad 12-2. Then all connections are complete and no need for pvc conduit.
@tomatojuice12
@tomatojuice12 2 года назад
Is that an Ikea SEKTION cabinet? Also, what is the proper search term to find this outlet box at homedepot? Thank you so much!
@johnnymalicoat754
@johnnymalicoat754 7 месяцев назад
Nicely done. How many cubic inches is that baby box?
@BJP719
@BJP719 Год назад
Thanks for sharing! Could you tell us what size drill bit and PVC you used for this install? Did you push the PVC down through the subfloor or just through the bottom of the cabinet?
@danielkofman4592
@danielkofman4592 Год назад
Most likely bottom of the cabinet. It shouldn't matter though, as long as its not exposed.
@The_Fitz
@The_Fitz 4 месяца назад
Nice, is there a reason you didn’t seal up the hole to the crawl space?
@mauriciomalisani2506
@mauriciomalisani2506 2 года назад
Great video man, How high did you install the receptacles to pass inspection? The inspector didn't ask you to install GFCI to pass inspection
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
Actually yes, the outlets are required to be on a GFCI circuit. I actually used a 20 amp GFCI/arc fault breaker in the main panel to supply the power for the appliance circuit. All kitchen outlets must have ground fault protection as per code. I do see that I failed to mention that. I should never assume that everyone knows that. Good observation, and thank you for pointing that out 👍
@ntrddragn
@ntrddragn 2 года назад
Thanks for the video! As a homeowner who is trying to learn and do the work myself correctly for my remodel, I see that 2020 NEC code Section 210.52(C)(2) , 210.52(C)(2)(a) and (C)(2)(b) states that a receptacle is needed for the first 9 sq ft, and 1 for any additional 18 sq ft and or a fraction there of and ALL receptacles in that island should be GFCI and tamper resistance. 1) Is this not the case because you have a GFCI at the main panel? 2) My kitchen already has an GFCI outlet, I'm using the existing wire series to wire up my new bigger island. Can I use a regular receptacles or do I need to use all GFCI? Thank you.
@t_do
@t_do 2 года назад
If the outlet is being fed from the load side of the GFCI in mention, it can be a regular outlet. LINE (input) and LOAD (output) will be specified on the back of the GFCI outlet itself.
@landonlandon5533
@landonlandon5533 Год назад
I guess where I'm still lost is the exposed 12/2 at the top. Wouldn't conduit need to be in the box?
@MrAvh1
@MrAvh1 2 года назад
How would you suggest splitting the power when it’s coming up from the slab? I was considering adding two outlets to the island but not sure best way to split it since I can’t do the junction box down in a crawl Since it is a slab.
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
I’m assuming that the island has a pre existing conduit ready for installing an outlet in the island? If so, I would suggest exiting the conduit with the 12-2 uf wire and installing a junction box somewhere (out of harms way) inside the cabinet of the island. At which point you can tap off of the JB with romex wires for each of the outlets. Just make sure that you route the wires in such a way that they are protected from physical damage from pots and pans or things of that nature. And that can be done with conduit (like I demonstrated in my video) or a wire mold. I hope that helps you!
@MrAvh1
@MrAvh1 2 года назад
@@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 thank you! We added a power run through the slab (cut a channel and added conduit) and now it is coming up under where the island will be. I have a good idea how to do it now. Thanks!
@rudyguerrero3542
@rudyguerrero3542 2 года назад
Did you run a new home run from the panel for those receptacles or did you tap off a running circuit??
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
I tied into one of the two required 20 amp gfci protected circuits. Dedicated only to the kitchen appliance circuit
@nelsonarias9386
@nelsonarias9386 2 года назад
Nice but what’s your current supply ?? that yellow wire comes from where ??
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
Good questions! First I want to say thank you for watching my video. As you can see I haven’t posted many since I created my channel. In fact this is what I call a “learning video” for myself, meaning I’m at the beginning stages of creating videos for my channel. It is very time consuming, not only with the taping, but the editing involved after. I probably did leave out a lot of important points that should have been addressed, but I also was trying to keep it as short as possible. Having said all of that…in the crawl space I “dropped” a 12-2, 20 amp Romex wire (yellow wire) below the kitchen area during the “rough wire”. And it is connected into a countertop receptacle. All residential kitchens require 2-20 amp appliance circuits to service the countertops electrical needs. The island area is considered a countertop, so it is required to have an outlet installed (if it’s 6 feet and under in length), one at each end of the island if over 6 feet. As you see in the video, I dropped each island outlet wire into the crawl in order to junction everything together with that wire I dropped at the rough wire. The two appliance circuits are fed from the main 200 amp panel, each circuit being terminated to a 20 amp gfci/arc fault combination breaker. I hope that answers your questions. After I posted the video, I often wondered if I was clear enough for people to get an understanding of what’s involved. I really appreciate your input, that’s how we all learn to improve. Thank you and God Bless! 🙂
@nelsonarias9386
@nelsonarias9386 2 года назад
@@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 it was very well cleared and much more than my speciation so , thanks again and God bless also .
@admise78
@admise78 2 года назад
How much should i expect to pay for a job like that when my island is right above my electrical panel? I would install two 20 Amps receptacles (one GFCI) on a dedicated socket??
@annettethompson2723
@annettethompson2723 2 года назад
Awesome but for us non pros I want one outlet in my diy island for my micro. I saw it INSIDE for a slide in but it doesn’t say how they installed it. Thanks
@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319
@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 2 года назад
Nice job did you use 14/2 or 12/2 romex?
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
12-2
@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319
@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 2 года назад
@@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 Thanks, I plan on using extension cord wire for my lights to save a few bucks. Wish me luck.
@audiobrad99
@audiobrad99 5 месяцев назад
Can't do this now, folks. 2023 code disallows outlets below the counter edge. Must be pop-ups or no outlets at all. Helluva a choice. Those popups are spendy and interfere with drawers.
@dalelivingston2975
@dalelivingston2975 2 года назад
How do you ground the metal octagon cover?
@danielkofman4592
@danielkofman4592 Год назад
You dont have to.
@BornAgainFaith
@BornAgainFaith 2 года назад
Where did you get the shallow boxes?
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
Lowe’s sells a version that is blue, same dimensions and depth. The gray ones on this video I got from my local electrical supply store.
@aydanmortenson8597
@aydanmortenson8597 2 года назад
Home Depot sells the grey one. That where I get them from.
@mr.m.o.g.o.m.
@mr.m.o.g.o.m. 2 года назад
What about a pop-up or a pop out receptacle looks like shit when you put them on the side.
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
Good question. I do agree that the white receptacle stood out in contrast to the dark cabinet (as did the customer). We wound up replacing both with dark brown receptacles and plates. Looked a whole lot better, and blended in nice. I took a picture, but RU-vid won’t allow a picture to post on comments for some reason. Or at least I wasn’t able to. Thanks for the feedback 👍
@mr.m.o.g.o.m.
@mr.m.o.g.o.m. 2 года назад
@@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 I didn't mean to be so harsh in my criticism I was having a crap day. I do like your product I'm remodeling my kitchen and don't know where to go about the receptacles I'm not a professional so all this is very new to me I really like your post
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919
@kenselectricalserviceandge5919 2 года назад
@@mr.m.o.g.o.m. No worries at all my friend. And thank you! Best of luck with your project too!!
@stevenstiles113
@stevenstiles113 11 месяцев назад
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