- Dennis, you stole my words exactly!!! 😂😂😂. I have friends that have never crashed, but have some of the worst looking quads & SxSs!!! Tracks are the way to go. If you don’t have a sled and just want mobility & utility in the snow, then don’t buy a second machine. Depending on what you ride/drive there are Somme great kits out there. I have a 2015 Honda Pioneer 700 2 seater and am running tracks through the winter. They are nice for how they spread the weight around on the ice as well as snow. I had to screw in some studs for mine on the ice. I don’t worth them or the machine like Andrew does though 😂😂. Nobody does!! Haha. It has turned into a great ice fishing machine. I either use a tent for ice hut protection, but I also have a 6 x 12 trailer I use also and I haul the Pioneer in the trailer, then pull the trailer out onto the ice and leave my truck on shore. Andrew should have shut the quad down as soon as it broke,,,, he did sooo much more damage. Oh well, it’s his machine!! 😂😂. Stay safe this winter everyone, Eh!
I just hope the makers of those tracks will watch the hell out of this video and take it all to heart and design the damn things as YOU would.....bomb proof.
Me to the customer: "Don't worry, I use state of the art automated machines that allow laser level precision with minimal breakage." Me in the shop: 3:12
I like the idea, but it leads to the questions, "Who can afford Indestructible? Is there a big enough market to make it worth the effort?" I think we have the answer in the way that every retailer demands made-down-to-the-price items from offshore sources. I'm not saying those sources are incapable of quality products, just that their customers (the retailers, and ultimately us) aren't willing to pay for it. Those tracks could have machined-from-billet titanium wheels at $5000 PER WHEEL but adding $120,000 to the price might seriously limit your customer base.
Most people that spend that kind of money for a product aren't going to intentionally try to destroy it. Use it the way it was designed to be used and they're probably just fine
Good Job Andrew. Things designed always seem to look good on paper, but in 'reality' there's always a need for an upgrade somewhere. Cheers, Thanks for making my day!. Blessings.🙏💯👍.
As soon as I see a new video pop up, I"m all over it. Never boring. Another winner - pure genius. Also nice to see "all" your friends involved. Thanks - looking forward to the next one.
It's always hilarious to see Cody trying to help with your projects. When he's running along side of your vehicles, I swear he's going to step on that long tongue some day! 😹 Thanks for the great video!!!
I'm always absolutely fascinated by how that dog can keep up and sometimes be ahead of him on his adventures. They are a perfect match and Cody is one of the most muscular dogs I've ever seen oh by the way what happened to the little puppy that you had hanging around
Just a thought, you might try some of that sound deadening mat that they use on firewalls for vehicles with loud stereo equipment. Put it between the seat backs and the rear wall of the cab.
Hi Andrew, My wife and I look forward to watching today’s video. Yesterday we were traveling and saw an army truck like yours on a trailer and as we passed it I told Sheila doesn’t that trailer hitch look familiar?! That’s a big vehicle. All the best, g
I've always liked the idea of tracks, but the plastic rollers seemed like a very cheap design on a very expensive thing. You proved that is indeed true.
I bet the company was thinking that when someone threw a track off, they wouldnt keep driving it on the rollers several miles in the snow and also on the pavement!! LOL That loading job on the trailer was awesome!!
Depends on the kinda plastic. If it’s Delrin, then it’s pretty durable. Anything else and it’s going to fail from either heat, cold and stress. If they had used steel rollers, it would weigh to much and the gearing on the UTV would be even worse. Aluminum could work, but again, not super durable.
@@-XtraCredit- If you used a thin steel insert coated in rubber, you could get the durability of steel and rubber without a solid steel piece causing weight and gearing issues. Definitely a solid rubber could work, re-purpose solid rubbers from forklifts that have been replaced. Easy to machine them, and still lots of life for an application like that.
🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇲🙏 Sorry you had such a disappointing experience. Above everything else, Cody and your girl were there for you and never abandoned you 🤗❤️ Thank you for sharing
@Jim jibroni doesn't matter to me pal, just passing on wot i heard from a previous upload, sorry to upset you, didn't think it was such a huge deal, a deal big enough to warrant throwing insults around, anyway troll on my friend
When Closed Captions are on and you are running your machines, it says either [Music] or [Applause] It's very fitting. Thanks again for showing all of us how to overcome difficult obstacles! You are one of my favourite RU-vidrs for a reason Mr. Camarata! Thanks for taking us along on your adventures!
That was a pretty cool up grade glass enclosure, heater and the tracks. to bad they did hold up. but it looked like fun while it lasted. your pup looked like he was having a ball! thanks for taking us along on your adventure. and thanks for the work you put into making these videos
I am with you Andrew those tracks are not heavy duty enough for those machines maybe a kid's machine. Love the snow you guys get out there up here in Northern New Hampshire the last couple of years we have been getting shorted we still could ride our sleds but more so in the higher elevations. Nice video old boy. !!!!!!!!
Hello from Australia. Soon there’s snow in our high country. But never gets as cold as in North America. Nice to see others with your presentations. It would be a privilege to enjoy the fullness of life as you experience. Be blessed.
Here's an FYI for you, I also follow a couple on a channel called ambition strikes, if you go and look at their channel a ways back you'll see that they actually make tracks for vehicles on demand, in other words I think they could make you exactly what you need to give you the ground clearance you need. Anyway I thought I'd let you know about this option and I want to tell you it made my day to see you posting a video .. thanks again for all the work
Andrew, not sure if you've ever looked into Yankum Ropes, but they make kinetic snatch straps that are way safer and easier than using a chain for pulling stuck rigs and equipment! They're on RU-vid as well!
Back in my military days I knew a woman who had a kinetic snatch. Way better than any whips and chains you could ever find. Some of the best yank-um snatch I've ever had.
Another vote for Yankum Ropes got a 3/4" Kinetic "Rubber Boa" superb!, & their BRODOZER Recovery Rope is also highly rated,both ropes better & safer than any steel cable/chain.
I’m surprised that those bogey wheels are just made from cheap plastic. You’d think they would have something more robust like the final drives on a tracked skidsteer obviously smaller version great video that machine looks like a beast with the tracks on it. I used to plow sidewalks for my town in a bombardier like you have for a trail groomer with a v plow on it and you’d have to wear a helmet if you hit a bump or a curb your head would smash into the roof. They are rough to operate feels like you fought a bear after a few hours running one of those older ones
Great video Andrew keep up the good work. Don't let the haters bring you down. I truly appreciate the quality content you produce compared to the weekly rushed uploads of other youtubers.
@@badlarry172 exactly..Ive never seen so much as a negative comment ever in his videos. He has the best, most loyal fan base on RU-vid Ive seen..its probably a bot or something, or someone who cuts and paste the same comment to different videos.
@@badlarry172 some guy was whining cause he twisted the camper frame thats why he had to force the bump out. Sure he's hard on shit but also shit breaks for "no reason"
@@badlarry172 yeah, you just have to scroll down a good ways. people say he abuses his dog, and doesn’t take care of his stuff. i’d argue the exact opposite.
Im glad you made this video. we have the same kawasaki 1000 and was looking at this brand of tracks. thankfully this video saved me alot of money for alot of cheap plastic.
If it can reassure you CAMSO are good tracks! Andrew is a very nice person but…we all know he is hard on stuff! At least for people that have been following I’m for years! I’ve own a set of CAMSO tracks for years when they were called TATTOO. And they are excellent quality.
It's mind-boggling how much energy Cody has, unreal! I was thinking as you were installing them, that those brackets looked way too flimsy for the amount of leverage on the track.
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I'm surprised that you didn't realize the cheap plastic when you were installing them. I noticed it on the video and knew they wouldn't hold up. Coupled with the flat bracket with no gusseting I knew that was gonna flex also.
"Cheap plastic" aside was it being used for what it was designed and how he used it? Once it broke it was his decision to carry on and use it. He's not usually "kind" to anything he buys.
Side load force on any wheel is greatest at the center. Cheap plastic when its cold like that is a design flaw baked in from the start. A good CNC guy could whip up some aluminum upgrades.
@@dubes5594 True, but could they be manufactured to the same cost? Also we don't know what sort of plastic was used. I don't try to condemn until I know more. Andrew does tend to play harsh with his gear and breaking it us not uncommon.
The thing is, no one is going to set up tracks on a vehicle like that unless they plan to drive it as hard as Andrew did. And he was mostly in nice powder snow, people are going to be running on snow that’s half ice. They just need to be a lot more durable.
@@markjames8664 It was only one that failed. And without knowing how it failed none of us can truly say that it failed due to it being made from plastic. I'll agree that it should be able to withstand being driven in snow, was it being driven purely in snow? Did it hit a rock or something. Have you watched The Grand Tour? In one of those episodes R. Hammond replaced his road wheels with a similar track system. The difference was that he wasn't driving in snow. The running wheels were also plastic and they eventually broke. But the stresses that were placed on them were much greater.
Real world torture testing with Andrew & Cody! Agree with you on the plastic as they will hold up on groomed trails but when you have to get somewhere backwoods you need a material that can take it! Heater and enclosed cab are certainly 2 thumbs and 2 paws up!
Most of the time when I watch you working on one of your vehicles I have absolutely no idea what you are doing and yet for some reason I can't stop watching. Strange, huh?
I’ve been running Matttracks on my 850 sportsman for two years ,just added the electric assist steering motor helps a lot in dirt - never had any problems so far- take care
I always come back here to see how this man is doing... he is literally living the dream life... he has so many toys in his toy box and a friking castle....
Great video 👍🏽 well worth carrying a standard wheel as a spare and if a track gives way again you have an option then of dropping a wheel on to help get you home.
Andrew I’d love to see you test out a set of Apache Backcountry tracks by Can-Am. They use a slide rail frame like a snowmobile has and have something like 2” lugs on the tracks
The cab looks like a great idea in places with snow. Tracks fitted to wheeled vehicles are always some level of problematic. If they are built strong they tend to break the vehicle - if not they just tend to break... For sure Andrew will find the limits of most things soon enough. Cheers from Oz - no snow to worry about in my part at least. Thanks for the vids.
@@huh4233 Basic safety measures allow you to get more fun,longer in your life. Accidents are horrible,basic safety measures are a good way to avoid them.
Very inspiring and motivating video Andrew. Here we can see the poor quality of those snow tracks and how they fail which gives a heads up to many. Companies need to know that quality should be job 1 👍🙋🏻♂️
In a way, you remind me of myself when I was young. I'd ram and jam and break things just like you do. Age has taught me to respect all things including equipment.
👍👍👍👍👍 ✌ Cool Stuff Man ! I'm glad you beat up the manufacture on those tracks. I woke up depressed from a dream and hope you had a video and was so pleased to see one there Thanks for cheering me up.😃
I can't help thinking that it's pulling that branch cutting thing around that's caused extra loading and torque through those rear tracks that's broken it. Great entertainment as ever though, Cheers
I was interested in getting tracks for my RZR but decided against it. Most people running them either get super stuck, have the drive components break, twist the track frame, have a track constantly fall off or all of these things combined.
@@AndrewCamarata Okay so my two cents for what its worth. There's a great British company called Moorend. They make tracks like this for articulated things like site dumpers and loaders (like Avants) and they're great. Because the vehicle articulates and doesn't 'steer' you're not trying to screw the tracks round which I guess is a good start. The track frames also bolt straight to the loaders chassis, meaning the original drive motor is now only used for turning the tracks and not baring any weight anymore. Great stuff. They're also made much stronger (greaseable metal rollers etc) because it's bolting to strong frame. I guess these utv tracks need to be lighter built, or if they were built to construction grade, you'd never turn the wheel because of the weight attached to them. I think these utv track would be good in super deep super soft fluffy snow only. But the whole things a bit of a nightmare, there's nothing strong enough on a utv to bolt to to make them major heavy duty, they need to consider weight when building them. The suspension makes the whole thing a bit rolly-polly (again something a dumper or loader doesn't have. I think tracks and utv's go together in specific circumstances but overall aren't a good combination. but check out Moorend tracks, they're great.
Right at the beginning of your video when I saw the tracks made out of plastic parts my first thought was "its' gonna break for no reason" because it's plastic.... lol, however as I watched on, sure enough they did. These took a chunk out of the wallet and that bites. Andrew with your ingenuity, I have no doubt you could remake these to your standards out of durable metal parts probably for a smidgeon of the cost. If its made out of plastic, it has no use in your life... lol.
Had the same issue with a blade/plow for my Bearcat... plastic lasted only 2 years... got a aluminum plate pop-riveted in its place, been gel ever since every winter now. I understand things like less weight etc etc... but sometimes you cannot cut corners and I do not know why aftermarket companies do this.
I love the way you think! In my family I am always teased about buying something and fixing it before I use it! We call it Torgifying, maybe the Camarata effect would work for you!
@@mmm365 Delrin would work as well, but be more money. AL would be cheaper. I'm thinking the manufacturer found a wheel that was already made and bought that.
