It's truly strange to say that now Intel offers the best low budget CPU, and AMD has nothing to counter it, other then old generation processors, because they essentially abandoned the low end market, and you have almost no chance of getting a Ryzen 5000 processor at MSRP, so your looking at $350-400+ dollars for a Ryzen 5600x - yet for half that price, Intel has a great 11400 processor that is easily found at MSRP and you can actually get one when you want one. This is a complete 180 from what the market was just a few years ago - its interesting to see. The 10400 and 11400 are just a great deal for a low cost gaming PC.
@@openmind2161 Got one too, the 10400f. The 3600 is 40% more expensive than it's original price now and the 10400f is currently still in its MSRP from my country.
@@openmind2161 I am about to switch from a 1600 aswell. Just don't know if I should go for the Ryzen 5 3600 or the 11400f. The problem is that I would have to buy a new mainboard and paired with the 11400f I am at the same price of the 3600 or even a bit over it. Which Mainboard did you get?
@@professorfrink6831 different core architecture and higher clock speed. a better example of this would be an i9-11900k running at max power 250w vs r9 5950x running at max power which is around 160w.
because in pci 4.0. 11400 is clearly not enough power, is the consumption limit removed in the BIOS? In my cyberpunk, the processor can consume up to 100watt
I wonder if there's something weird happening with the nvidia driver overhead and if that's to blame for why the 10400 is outperforming the 11400 or if it just has some advantage in certain games due to the architecual differences between rocket lake and later skylake iterations (comet lake). I guess it's a bit much to ask to redo this test with a 6900xt though.
I believe its just the architectural difference and the way windows operates and allocates resources with each architecture. Technically they are supposed to be within margin of error in terms of performance, however after owning both, I can confirm in gaming the 10400(F) does perform a bit better in many scenarios. Also not having the APU in my 10400F also helps better temps a bit. I would say if your buying new and want one of these, the best option would be the 10400F on a B560 board so you can take advantage of fast ram such as a 3600mhz kit. The i5-12400 should be quite a bit better overall plus it comes with a new platform with hopefully unlocked ram tuning and will use DDR5 which will make the overall speed WAYYYY faster. Next generation of GPU (RTX 4080 which will be more than 2x faster (on paper) than the 3090 as rumored by several) plus the new cpu architecture and leap to DDR5 is going to progress computing horsepower by an insane amount. Game Devs are going to be super hard at work with making sure older hardware can even run, or just even launch new games in the next couple years. Basically computing power by 10 years from now should in theory be like 5x what it is now......which is also why tech tubers are talking about 4 cores/8 threads and 10gb of vram not being enough to last more than a year or 2 lol. Hopefully in the next few years the i5 becomes an 8 core and the i3 becomes a 6 core.
@@deadly_mir so you recommend buying the 10400 instead of the 11400? I'm about to upgrade from my old Ryzen 3 1200 and I don't which one I should get. I'm not a hardcore gamer but whenever I see a new game that I like, I just buy it.
Yea...the 11400 performance is quite baffling for something that consumes more power and runs hotter than its predecessor. Was thinking about getting it but during the last couple days as reviews start popping up I'm having doubts. Either its severely undercooked and will improve later. But the 10400 is looking like a much better option, especially with the B560 board releases.
Il bought the i5 10400 with Gigabyte Z590 Gaming X mobo,what u think ,great combo for future upgrade cpu like i9 10gen or 11gen ,thats the reason il buyed that mobo...
Я смотрю энерго потребление и 11400 потребляет минимум на 20 ват больше. Я купил себе 10400 и мамку asus b560m-a память crucial balistix 3600 Cl16 память завелась на указаной частоте через XMP очень рад что завезли разгон памяти на 10 поколение о своем выборе не жалею на 11 поколение обгрейдится не собираюсь или 10700 или уже 1700 сокет или какой будет на момент абгрейда:)
the i5 10400 whit 2666mhz cl14-15-15-35 and loose sub timing 180 cinebench r15 and whit 3200 cl 16-16-16-36 whit descent sub timing 178 ;) depends of game you run cinebench tendacy show possible scaling to multicore up to 5% from 2666mhz to 3200mhz which may not necessairy translate in fps single core solid metric when come to low latency game like shooter while large open world generally tendacy to run lower fps which scale tiny bit in favor of memory bandwith from margin of error in overall experience from my point of view. Buy the board most affortable do have descent feeling about b460 torpedo from msi board not as solid in build feeling tranpolin affect to it and fan control was meh that a b560 from asrock pro4 bit more sturdy.Msi one was easy tune memroy on the b560 from asrock seem a bit more picky about my memory but was cheaper ;) hope it help you
It really just depends on like the game engine because we don't know how differently the two CPUs are wired up so they can handle different programs easier or worse so remember getting the best CPU out there may not be the best CPU for what you want to do on it.
Полный провал для 11 серии. Тдп выросло как минимум в 1.5 раза, а производительность увеличилась процента на 2-3 в целом... Понял, что нет смысла брать 11400ф за 14500 рублей. Его стоит брать, только если он будет стоить не более чем на 10% дороже 10400ф
@@doc_torpc9633 Не у всех вендоров материнки на чипсете b560 поддерживают разгон памяти у 10-го поколения. Вообще, конечно, полная идиотия. Например, Gigabyte почему-то не поддерживает это. MSI - без проблем, память можно ставить выше 4000, к тому же у их материнок слот PCI Gen.4 под M.2 накопитель при использовании 10-го процессора не отключается, а переключается в режим Gen.3. По поводу тестов какое-то сомнение, что 11-й проигрывает 10-му.
@@emirhan2284 yes, we dont see a lot of things here in this video, so it is misleading: what motherboard was used (B560 is better), memory timmings, voltage, MCE, cooling, power draw...I can show you a lot of videos where 11400 is almost on par with 11600k. I dont say 10400 it's not good value for gaming, but a lot of RU-vid videos are fake and misleading
11th gen is such a disappointment especially considering that the 11th gen i9 isn't even 10 cores like the 10th gen i9 is. 11th gen is more like 10.1th gen.
Except they aren't though, he's just trying to make himself look better than everyone else. That part made me doubt the legitimacy of his videos, if you're claiming to be the only one telling the truth then you probably aren't, infact you're probably a massive liar who's not even capable of making your lies look legitimate
Thinking of getting one of these cards for my son as theirs a great deal in curry’s for a full build PC for like £800 was 1300 so is it a good deal ???
That's not true. Performance will be the same but with higher power consumption and temps. I don't need to run desktop with full clocks. So unlocking the power limits does not improve performance. Intel has made sure that the maximum CPU potential is available at a limit of 65W TDP (i5-10400f).
@@AFE1312 And this is totally unnecessary, because the full potential is achievable at PL1 (i5-10400f). Running full clocks at desktop is also unnecessary. If someone has better cooling, they can try to extend the boost time from PL1 to PL2. But with good temperatures, this is rather unnecessary.
Conclusion is that 10400 is a little faster than 11400 and then 11400 has about the same power as 11600, same reviewer shows that 11700 and 11900 have no advantage over 11600.... 10400 and 11900 have about 10% difference and 330% the cost difference.
A lot of work to do this! Congratulations! Comments: As the goal was to test the processors, I think it would be more correct to play in high density areas of PC/NPCs, which is where the processor is most demanded. In fortnite , for example, you were in an "empty region", which is quite "easy" to te CPU.
11400 is worse than the 10400 because power limits are turned on in this benchmark. Once those are turned on, you can expect better performance from the 11400 than for the 10400. All it takes is some BIOS configurations.
it was designed for 10 nm, intel engineering backported it to 14nm since they still unable to fix 10nm problem. that's why it uses more power and hotter
tdp= thermal design power means the power the cpu will consume when the cpu is in basic clock. but both intel and amd have techniques like turbo boost, which will boost the clock when the power and temp is allowed, so tdp is not important at all, the real power consumption will cost a bit more than that.
Спасибо большое за тесты , реально 1 из лучших каналов , с пруфами железа. Продолжай бро ) можешь еще видосы со своим мнение по поводу железа записывать ))))
@@DeviceLab я конечно опоздал на год, но если не сложно то ответь пожалуйста какой именно на данный момент проц будет лучше взять в сборку 11400f 10400f или 10600kf, 10600kf немного кусается по цене по сравнению с остальными на данный момент, и если не сложно, то посоветуешь мне пожалуйста материнку для 11400f ? Я буду очень благодарен, подписку оформил
Witch one do u think I choose the i5 10400f or 11400f but the 11th gen is not available now in my contry it will arrive after 1 month or more do i wait for the 11th gen or i go to 10th gen
@@jazzy4011 the 11th gen doesn't support 10th gen MB like h410 or b460 only can run on h470/ h570 and z490/z590 but the new 11 gen MB h510 and b560 it work the both of 10th gen and 11th gen cpu
Saya bingung sekali memilih processor untuk kebutuhan editing saya dalam format H264 60 fps, adalah kalian bisa memberikan masukan untuk saya antara i5 11400 atau i3 gen 13???
Z490 123euro + 10400f 127euro + 3600 ram.... value for money with future proof,after 2 years when i7 11700 drops upgrade an take advantage of pcie 4 too
Hola!!!, le consulto tengo una matherboard Gigabytes H410M H V3 con una Core I5 10400 con una memoria Crucial DDR4 de 8gb a 2666Mhz, en las especificaciones de la motherboard dice que con el core i5 10gen solo soporta memorias de hasta 2666Mhz, yo quisiera saber si puedo poner 2 memorias Kington Fury Beast DDR4 de 8gb 3200Mhz? si me la va a reconocer bien? si puede tener algunos problemas de pantalla azul o algo de eso raro? Quiero poner las de 3200mhz para a futuro cambiar la placa madre y el micro y que me sirban me dedico a edicion de fotografia y algo de video a 1080. Muchas Gracias.
Bro una consulta si le puse una placa asus tuff gaming b560m me está llendo medio bajo y el cod warzone no me agarra se sale ni bien inicia qué será?):
Hey i wanna save some money so please tell me that i should buy i5 11th gen or i5 10th gen so please tell me what to buy but if there are no major difference between them then should i go for i5 10th gen please tell me
Guys, I have an Asus h510m-a prime and, currently, I have an i3 10105f, with 16gb RAM 3200 MHz from XPG and an RX 6600 Eagle Oc, which supports pcie 4.0 (my motherboard is also 4.0) So I'm thinking about doing a future CPU upgrade, preferably getting an i5, but I have a very big doubt, currently the 10400f is on sale for 500R$ (cash) and the 11400f is at 699R$ (cash too) However, there are issues with pcie 4.0 and the frequency of RAM memories which in the 11th Generation already supports 3200mhz, the 10th Generation is Pcie 3.0 and only supports RAM memories up to 2666mhz. In short, the I5 11400f would give me a very strong boost compared to the I5 10400f, right? Because then I will have full support from my motherboard for Pcie 4.0, my video card too, RAM at 3200mhz (xmp is already active, but it doesn't go beyond 3000mhz) and also the CPU itself already has support for pcie 4.0, so what do you say? Do I go for the I5 10400f for the price, or do I go for the I5 11400f for the greater compatibility and the UP in performance and compatibility with the parts?
Пауэр лимит неправильно выставлен в биусе на процессоре 11г поколения . Если выставить грамотный пауэр лимит, он в разы превосходит 10 поколение но это к сожалению, никто не делает. Или не умеет делать.
@@DeviceLab what power limits and memory settings on 11gen? Gear1 or 2 and if not can we expect secon test with not default settings? Great job btw, show more system settings in next tests
@adam kowalczyk , i checked all modes (auto, gear 1, gear 2). There is no performance difference on z490! Today I am testing on z590, tomorrow there will be a video on the channel.
@@DeviceLab вот и весь смысл тестов почти нулевой и прироста не видно вообще. Лучше поставить нормальный режим, там разница коллосальная в gear 1 и gear 2
Hello, help me plz, Laptop Core I5 10500H + RTX 3060 6gb and Laptop Core I5 11400H + RTX 3050 Ti 4gb. which one is better for Adobe software (PTS, Pr, AI, AE). Thanks so much.
Whats the point using a dedicated GPU when testing CPU's with integrated graphics... the integrated graphics is the only thing remotely interesting about them. The f version of both are cheaper.
@@DeviceLab The game is installed on hdd. CPU i5 10400, gpu rtx 3070ti, 16gb Ram. At maximum settings with dx12 and dxr, there are small delays. I can't find a reason in any way. Many people write the problem in hdd. That ssd cards are loaded faster.
I picked up a 10400 for $169 today through Walmart. They're out there through reliable dealers whereas the 11400's are getting hard to find and prices are going up. Will pair it with a h570 Asus MoBo and 3600 DDR.
Стою перед выбором взять 10400 или доплатить 4 тысячи и взять 11400? Еще натыкался на момент где 11400 проигрывал 10400 но это вроде как на B чипсете. Подскажите люди умные как быть. Спасибо
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