Interesting Chinese Swords: The Roaring Dragon & Striking Eagle by LK Chen

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A two-handed jian is not something you see every day, and these two are remarkably different from any longsword or other European sword I've handled so far. Way lighter than you would expect (1.12 kg / 39 oz) and thereby extremely nimble, they are basically trading cutting power for agility.
The long blades and especially long handles provide extra reach and allow for a variety of different grips, with the hands either very far apart or closer together. They are quite flexible (too much so by my standards) due to the thin blades. Definitely better for light cutting... I wouldn't want to do armor tests with these, or even strong cuts against a ZGB zombie head.
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@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

Here's an application for the flexible swords most won't know. It's preserved in applications like "Birds fly into the woods at nightfall" in Yang tai chi sword. It comes after a classical wudang leg counter where you guide the opponent's blade off-line, then continue into what looks like a classic shaolin thrust, up through the gutsto pierce the heart and exit through the upper back. But impaling is a great way to lose your sword. Instead, the flexible sword slides up the torso, bending, to be inserted under the chin and penetrate the brain via the spinal column. It takes more calm, control and skill, but it makes withdrawing the sword much easier, so that one can be ready for the next attacker. The name connotes piercing the tongue to reach the brain, as most birds are silent in the woods at night. (Like Skalla, I prefer heavier, stiffer blades for a variety of reasons, but believe that there are uses for every type of blade. The last generation of Chinese fighters from about a century ago seem to have heavily favored these flexible blades for dueling.)

@ld2hunter 3 года назад

Long time subscriber, first time commenter. I had heard, during my training in various Asian martial arts, Chinese jians (Straight swords) and their 2-handed variants, like this, were supposedly designed to be flexible enough to slip between armor joints and ribs during thrusting attacks. These jians are from a specific era and/or region where their design was meant for a style more akin to fencing, in that agility was the focus, as opposed to jians from other eras and/or regions which were designed to be a heavy slashing type of weapon with a point that could be used for secondary thrusting attacks, where strength was the primary focus. You can certainly tell the difference based on the mass and width of the blades from the different eras. Just my input from what I had been taught while on my journey through the martial arts. Can't speak to the accuracy, as I never studied the actual history, nor practiced on armored targets, I was there for the discipline and exercise mainly. Love your videos!

@rehanmemon3969 3 года назад

The names are always so cool that they seem overhyped. you never see mundane names on a sword like "the strutting donkey", "the taxing paying monkey", "the depressed and slightly drunk carp".

@shawn6860 3 года назад

I ever play a game I can name starships I will use those names. 😄

@Santisima_Trinidad 3 года назад

everyone has a death bringer or a dragon's flame. But your enemies will never be able to outlive the shame of being killed by the fluffy bunny.

@General_Kenobi_212 3 года назад

it's like how my grandfather named his boat "unsinkable 3" yes in case you were wondering the other 2 sunk one in the dock during a hurricane and the other striking the underside of a bridge pillar in rough waters, third times the charm i hope lol 😄

@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

@@General_Kenobi_212 that's just asking for trouble.

@hunterlurvey698 3 года назад

"The underwhelming pigeon"

@Cruxador 3 года назад

Keep in mind that the original striking eagle wasn't intended to first and foremost be a good blade, it's a commemorative weapon. Its length is the same as the height of the owner's deceased son. As a subject for reproduction, it's notable for being the longest intact specimen, I believe. The roaring dragon is more typical of what was actually used, but still they seem to have been very specialized.

@TheWhiteDragon3 2 года назад

True, but do consider that a sword as long as a person is tall were reasonably common for their respective times. Especially in East Asia, people were shorter back then, and even the Roaring Dragon would have been maybe only a little shorter than the height of the user. As far as weight and balance of the blade is concerned, I'm not quite sure if the ratio of body mass to height would have been dissimilar enough to change the balance characteristics to their original users. Topics like these don't usually make a difference, but with this sword design being so ancient and nutrition poorer and average height shorter, it very well might have.

@hamasmillitant1 7 месяцев назад

thanks for the info but in my opinion not really a specialized weapon except in regards to fact only a few cultures knew how to make a sword that long that didnt break immediately(bk then they all had a ridge not a fuller across all cultures that managed more than a meter of blade) if a sword weights 1.2 KG it dosent mater how long it is u can use it 1 handed or 2 if u arent using a shield at time and unless your fighting in close formation longer reach is very valuable. thats why the celts where notorious for skirmish warfare'. because they could make the weapons for it. cultures with lesser smiths opted for massed spears or roman/saxon style of massed short swords & shields. ps blade only wobbles if YOUR force isnt focused thats why they had tassels on practice sword if the tassel is wobbling so is the tip. your not being smooth enough in motions

@hamasmillitant1 7 месяцев назад

@@TheWhiteDragon3 yes and no. yes for last 200yrs/post colonial period no for most of time before that/when these swords where used nutrition was pretty good for warrior castes, the brits where always writing about how natives where a foot taller than them wherever they went. it was post colonization they shrunk to eu sizes(traditionally the most malnourished continent)

@gaspanifrinzi3318 3 года назад

I really appreciate that more people are showing more of Chinese swords or culture in general, few years ago I couldn't even manage to think to find some Chinese swords videos here in RU-vid. Glad to see this one!

@LarryGarfieldCrell 3 года назад

I think a lot of it is LK Chen specifically. They've been flooding the RU-vid reviewer community with review blades in the past year and none of the review channels are going to say no to quality free stuff. :-) It is good to see more stiff than just European and katana, though I agree. I'd love to see more on African weapons, as that's a very under-covered area.

@gaspanifrinzi3318 3 года назад

@@LarryGarfieldCrell also African armors.

@DccAnh 2 года назад

@@gaspanifrinzi3318 african barely have any armor worth noting

@MarcusVance 3 года назад

Love two-handed jian. They were often used by bodyguards, and are pretty perfect for that.

@welcomegumungus 3 года назад

interesting, because from what i have heard, greatswords have also been used similarly.

@MrBottlecapBill 3 года назад

@@welcomegumungus It makes sense. The first duty of a body guard is to keep bad guys away. A long weapon does this better than a shorter one, especially if you're in an environment where the people trying to attack are being low key.....and therefore not carrying shields or wearing armour. If you're a bodyguard on a field of battle.......and may be facing swords, axes or spears it may still be a better all around choice. Long enough to defend against spears but short enough to still be effect at closer than spear range should someone get in closer. WHile still being able to threaten a wide arc of foes.

@welcomegumungus 3 года назад

@@MrBottlecapBill oooh thanks for the explanation!

@MalloonTarka 3 года назад

@@welcomegumungus Same with the Iberian Montante, another big-ass sword.

@tianxiu 3 года назад

why bodyguards use two-handed jians or greatswords? I would have thought they would carry better concealable and more agile weapons?

@goliathz9l597 3 года назад

I think I might be surprised by its nimbleness if I ever actually handled one of those. Chinese swords are quite interesting. And your reviews are always awesome.

@dubyaw9511 3 года назад

LK Chen: I am going to turn all these HEMA youtubers into HCMA youtubers

@horstnasenblut8364 3 года назад

Also called Gong fu

@treyfelter5133 3 года назад

I'm already both but definately picked up a Roaring dragon after seeing so many favorable LK chen reviews. I've been looking for a long Jian for a while, and I think its perfect for my needs (cutting and drills)

@juniperrodley9843 3 года назад

That sounds like I'm hiccupping.

@NoverMaC 3 года назад

@@horstnasenblut8364 just CMA. nobody calls it that afaik

@cyborgchicken3502 3 года назад

@av latta meguca maybe they shouldn't because in China Gong Fu is also related to Hard Work or Hard Labour, it's not always about martial arts only Kung Fu movies make it seem that way...it's actually more related to striving for perfection through hard work and practice, that's really it's only connection to martial arts, the proper the for martial arts in China is Wushu, and for Chinese hand to hand martial arts they use Chuan Fah

@WyFoster 3 года назад

I don't own any swords, nor do I practice any sword arts. But I find this stuff fascinating.

@williamfescemyer4739 3 года назад

Why not start :)

@stc3145 3 года назад

I would like to buy a sword but they’re banned where i live. I have firearms but i cannot get a blade thats longer than 25 cm

@natsukimasamune7766 3 года назад

@@stc3145 because everybody knows Shuriken are weapons of mass destruction!

@GuitarsRockForever 3 года назад

@@stc3145 The world is full of retarded laws.

@arthurbanksforbeijingopera3091 3 года назад

In China a good sword is somewhat like a pet at least, your child more. You must feed it, maintain it carefully. Certainly seldom anyone can afford too many pets.

@neonnwave1 3 года назад

Not many times I hear a 'swish' sound when a sword is swung. It's music to my ears.

@jaysblades 3 года назад

"Sword wind" is both a beautiful and hilarious phrase to me, because I can't help but think of "break wind."

@neonnwave1 3 года назад

@@jaysblades More like cutting wind than breaking it. But cutting wind doesn't have the same meaning.

@thegreatandmightyseff7214 3 года назад

Golden Wind.

@neonnwave1 3 года назад

@@thegreatandmightyseff7214 Yare yare daze

@varuug 3 года назад

@@neonnwave1 In southern US accent: yaer yaer dayz?

@xeio1122 3 года назад

Literally just learned about these blades yesterday and suddenly this video. I am not disappoint

@jaysblades 3 года назад

Same. I ran across them while browsing their site just yesterday too. Skallagrim Wizard confirmed

@parryhotter4283 3 года назад

You know this moment when you learn something new and literally the next day they talk about it in a documentation or in the next episode of your favorite Netflix show?

@Arthion 3 года назад

Gosh, I love the swooshing sound they make when slashing with them. I'm quite curious how jian and long jian are used compared to more western blades in a bit more detail. Given that the description of the Roaring Dragon refering to it as being used more like a spear, it sounds like the focus is higher on swift thrusts and probably just keeping people out of reach.

@nathanyau2164 3 года назад

I think the main idea of a Chinese "sword" or double edged blade is that it's more for unarmored duelling, between , mostly, noblemen. For actual armoured combat and war, spears or polearms, dao (Chinese broadswords) and even staves are used.

@yannk95 3 года назад

Just heard the swoosh of the blade at the 3:40 mark and thought it was movie. Was surprised at the sound of the blade. Had a good pitch to it.

@JosephArata 3 года назад

This is one of those weird hybrid swords that was designed for thrusting but it can also slash to guard vs spears/staves. It follows the same rules as the traditional one-handed Chinese swords, thin, straight and doubled edged, but they made these longer for more reach.

@Brahmdagh 3 года назад

This is like seeing two gorgeous sisters, and not being sure which one you are developing a crush on.

@Torrenaxe 3 года назад

Odd

@honkhonk6443 3 года назад

I love the design, this is peak performance right there

@meilanyu5209 3 года назад

Lightweight = speed Blade sharp = minimum kinetic energy required to end the battle This is a design two thousand years ago

@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

Bear in mind that 2000 years ago, we're talking iron, not steel, and poor durability/temper. The degredation of the surviving blade surely resulted in a loss of weight and moving of the point of balance closer to the guard. Even 2000 years ago these straight swords must have been finesse weapons, because they lack the durability of polearms or single-edged cutting blades. In my opinion, hacking is never good with a straight sword, even if that seems to be the dominant use by modern practitioners. But if you ever get the chance to learn from an expert, you'll notice they can generate power for cuts without opening their guards, and use chops rarely.

@hiimryan2388 Месяц назад

@@itinerantpoet1341this is wrong in so many ways. Steel swords in China have been used for MORE than 2000 years and to say that they were “badly tempered” or had terrible durability is just nonsense as these were battlefield and bodyguard swords and were buried with nobles in tombs. Besides in the reference picture of the sword the rust didn’t lead to severe deterioration meaning it probably added mass onto the sword.

@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 3 года назад

“Just smack the devil out of it.”

@keyem4504 3 года назад

LK Chen really makes great swords. I have several of them and all of them are superb.

@allengordon6929 3 года назад

Reversed spears. Change my mind.

@anoninunen 3 года назад

With that flexibility, it might be possible to 'flick' the tip around a guard/parry, as in rapier fencing. Whip-sword!

@TheTyyros 3 года назад

i like the setup at the beginning with the view outside; looks great

@mainerjasoon1501 3 года назад

In fact, in ancient China, a sword of this length was used for decoration (to show one's cultivation and status) and was usually carried in a luxurious, jade-filled scabbard. Only powerful men wore such long swords around their waists (e.g. Confucius, Qin Shi Huang) and were unable to pull them out themselves because they were too long. If the sword was to be used, another person would have to help him remove the scabbard. A shorter sword was also present in their daily swords for defence

@nathanyau2164 3 года назад

@InsufficientGravitas Год назад

Dao are specifically single edged swords, not an equivalent to the broadsword.

@natmorse-noland9133 3 года назад

Oh! That video that you linked to demonstrating Chinese martial technique was filmed at my school! 😁😁

@StryderK 3 года назад

On LKChen videos, he readily admits the reason why he made both is the Striking Eagle is a little too floppy for its own good and heartily recommend the Roaring Dragon to a beginner since it’s far less stringent. The flexibility vs toughness is also mentioned by Matt Easton. In fact, he put a set on his Striking Eagle but was able to put a foot on it and fix it. It’s just the nature of the beast. You win some, you always gonna loose some.

@zacharyvolz4860 3 года назад

you know its a great day when you wake up to a Skallagrim notification 😆

@Megatron_95 3 года назад

Indeed

@sagagis 3 года назад

Skall and The Curse of Silverthorn videos at the same day... I must be in the heaven or something

@therandomdickhead5744 3 года назад

Except i never get notifications, god bless youtube

@Milligan618 3 года назад

I know you focus on armed martial arts but I wish there was a channel like yours that went in depth with all martial arts.

@AnnaCurser 3 года назад

im liking the new background, nice green screen! the swords also look nice!

@Adam_okaay 3 года назад

The hollow grind is beautiful with the damascus pattern.

@keithallardice6139 3 года назад

Great reviews - that Roaring Dragon has certainly caught my eye ... cheers Skal! Stay safe and have a good one

@thegreatlemmon7487 3 года назад

i mean, if you think about a person from asia back long ago, ya a big tall man does not come to mind. it kinda makes sense that they would have long light and agile swords. it would be a longsword length for a nord but to them its a greatsword

@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight 3 года назад

Depends on where in Asia. IIRC northern Chinese people were often taller than southern Chinese people. Tis a very big country formed from centuries of conflict between many ethnic groups, not one monolithic race of people.

@silverjohn6037 3 года назад

NBA rule. Average height in North America is 5'11'' right now but professional basketball teams can find players up to 7' tall. Same idea for historic Asia, especially among families prosperous enough to afford a diet that included more protein and fat for the growing children.

@jiamingzhang147 3 года назад

It has more to do with lack of nutrition at that time rather than race. The mean height of Europeans at that time is also quite low. Because people back then can’t afford eating meat even once a month.

@theveganwujeeta 3 года назад

@@silverjohn6037 What stats are you looking at where the average height is 5' 11"?

@icyrazor 3 года назад

@@Beffudled and to the OP as well, it would've been light for ancient Chinese people too. Ancient Europeans on average were taller but only by a few inches. There wasn't this hulking difference. War was waged very much the same way. You have to pay attention to the era it was made in. This was during a time (before 200BC) where steel was just being forged in China and the work that would've went into making these blades meant that they were quite expensive and hard to come by. Only specialist regiments and officers and kings would be able to have these in their arsenal. And because of the era it was made in, you can't really compare them to their European counterparts which were made over a millennia afterwards when the entire civilized world had refined iron harvesting and steel production by that point. If you look at Chinese swords during the mid Medieval/High Middle Ages period onwards, you'll see blades become broader and thicker compared to their predecessors.

@bradm.c.9569 3 года назад

Hypothesis about the thin & flexible factor: if the armour of opponents in their context was a sort of lamellar, being swift and numble may have been useful for strinking at the gaps in the armour. Perhaps, unlike medieval Europe, these gaps did not have chainmail (as under a brigandine or some plate armour) - therefore the sword wouldn't need to be as rigid as European longswords. Another, less likely hypothesis: as lamellar armour consists of plates tied together by leather or silk cords, what if a light and nimble sword was able to follow along the plates and slice the cords, making the armour fall apart?

@junky2fk 2 года назад

Good thoughts on your hypothesis. Historically though, Jian is hard and used mainly for stabbing. And the old Jian design were more brittle than the modern malleable bendiness you see in the video. This is mainly because the sword replica production regulations in China to prevent sparring sword from becoming actual weapons. But yeah, I said on my other comment, old design Jian actually would shatter on the battlefield due to usage and because of how hard it is. It’s a delicate, graceful weapon.

@Toxoplasma13 11 месяцев назад

Lamellar armour is supposed to be made of overlapping, not isolated segments. The idea is that at any point in time you'll be striking two or three thicknesses at once.

@shelbybayer200 3 года назад

These Magnificent Blades have anime attack names basically "Roaring Dragon!!" "Striking Egale!!" Hmm, Perhaps these two blade names would be good too name an attack that my own characters could name skills

@nehcooahnait7827 3 года назад

Well it is just the wordiness of the English language... OG names in Chinese probably have only two syllables...

@JERKIMBALL1 3 года назад

Great swords, interesting shaping on them. I want one!

@TOMMYBOY6969 3 года назад

Chinese swords always favour agility over blunt force. These Chinese swords are designed only against light or no armoured opponents. The spring or bounciness of the tip of the blade adds to the agility. They rather have the precision to cut between the amour where it is soft like under the arm pits etc than to cut through armour. Cutting open the leather clothing is good enough, as long as you get to the skin and tendons. You dont need to cut the arm clean off because cutting the arm clean off will require a heavier sword which will make it less agile and more slow.

@rhel373 3 года назад

Some of the best around in my opinion, speaking purely on aesthetics! They look so elegant!

@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

My Flying Phoenix is a wonderful blade. Even if she did give me 6 stitches when I was unwrapping her. If you order a sharp blade, they come *holy shit I'm bleeding* sharp!

@churrundog 2 года назад

They are really pretty!

@byroneacheight7743 3 года назад

Any master who thinks this stuff seems not as good as longswords or rapiers might be ought to know: this sword was designed over 2000 years ago.

@farkasmactavish 3 года назад

So it's even MORE likely to be not as good, is what you're saying.

@byroneacheight7743 3 года назад

@@farkasmactavish Ok, all I meant is just that this sword was designed for absolutely different battlegrounds and era. So it makes no sense to expect a Chinese person in 2nd century B.C. to think like a medieval European one.

@byroneacheight7743 3 года назад

@@farkasmactavish Sorry, mate. I missed a word in the comment...

@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

@@farkasmactavish completely different armor that it was facing on the battlefield. Bronze and leather, not steel. So yes, it's going to suck against steel armor designed over a thousand years later.

@retryhikaru184 3 года назад

I would love to see stab tests with these, any chance you would reconsider doing it?

@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

Understand that the main thrusting target is the abdomen, inserting the blade only to sufficient depth to damage liver, kidney or spleen, then quickly withdrawing, sometimes with a twist. The late Qing/early Republican spring steel blades were meant to flex before popping to penetrate, to remove the possibility of impaling. (Impaling is a great way to lose your blade.) Avoiding bone is always the goal, even for heavy stiff blades, but these light flexible blades can be thrust horizontally for slip between ribs. (Not optimal, as blade can get stuck or even break.) Nevertheless, for one handed wielding, palm up center guard position is always preferred, and thrusts with the blade horizontal are considered "higher level' and more optimal. Throat is also an excellent target, but in real life (as opposed to protective-gear sparring) we will always prefer abdomen to throat for the same reason aiming for center mass is always recommended with firearms. It's great that European enthusiasts are evaluating these Chinese blades, but don't expect them to understand the use. (Not their fault, it's just that Chinesesword play is diverse, specialized, and deep, and it takes at least decade of study and daily practice to be able to wield them correctly, and significantly longer to achieve a high level. Without an expert instructor who specializes, even basic competency is unlikely.)

@paulgreen2416 3 года назад

For modern day home defence against unarmoured opponents I'd definitely consider the Roaring Dragon.

@prophetrexlexful8783 3 года назад

i like this background much more than the greenscreen

@ryanmac8829 3 года назад

14:26 I usually give my sword a "firm tug" to get it out, too.

@frankharr9466 3 года назад

It's a shame about the thrusting tests, because it does feel like it's designed for thrusting more than cutting, but what are you going to do? Maybe later It's nice to see that the quality's reasonable as well as Mr. Sage again. 1.12 kg= 39.5 oz., not that half an ounce matters and nor does 20 grams. Mr. Grim, are you reading my comments? If so, cool. I really do thing ounces is right avoirdupois units for swords.

@arnaudshirt2798 3 года назад

So this is the sword Sokka used!

@AnnaCurser 3 года назад

Skall likes them thick and stiff with a nice round shaft and a firm grip.

@Etticos. 3 года назад

Don’t forget hard. He loves ‘em hard.

@rosegoid2307 3 года назад

haha! gay jokes :)

@Archontasil 3 года назад

These swords are like my girlfriend. When i slap the bottom it vibrates

@thesubtitler5721 3 года назад

XDD

@MrYago-xd7um 3 года назад

Is your girlfriend named Siri? jk

@andorifjohn Год назад

That must have been a scary weapon back in the day!

@akantoschan 3 года назад

The design of Roaring Dragon is more likely following the ancient era (around 3-500 years before the Qin dynasty) esp the pummel and the scabbard. The usage of the sword at the time was the main weapon for commanding officer who would follow the troopers to the field. At that moment of time, most Chinese swords were designed for thrusting given the protection of armour is not enough. Something like plate armour in Europe still does not exists. Users of the swords mostly are facing the main troops of the enemy who uses spikes or spears, wielded by two hands, without a shield. The length of the sword was for a longer reach to thrust through the enemy with the least protection, or a 1 on 1 combat with the officer of the opponent. The most important protection skill will be something like parrying and twisting the body with footwork so that you are out of the target area of enemies' thrust. For the comment on horse cutting, the Chinese Horse Cutting Sword comes to the battlefield at about 500 AD in the earliest (per my best memory, probably later), given the forging technique limitation and the design come different. A Horse Cutting Sword is a Two-Handed, Single Edged, Thick back, Curved blade weapon, designed for cutting horses' leg (though I doubt whether the senior officials will mass equip a number of troops to do this for facing cavalry). A bit off-topic but I want to point out that in discussing Chinese Sword, we have to first divide into the single-edged sword (Dao in mandarin or Dou in Cantonese) and the double-edged sword (Jian in Mandarin or Gim in Cantonese). Dou and Gim are categorised as different types of weapons and they have 2 different systems of technique to wield. Thanks for reading and hope it helps the discussion progress.

@gerudo849 3 года назад

The flexibility is intentional for a jian. It's meant to be used in a more whip-like way than you would see for European or Japanese swordfighting.

@Izayoink_Saccuy 2 года назад

Chinese sword fight is really flashy and fancy

@mahmoudhammo9389 3 года назад

Do a video about double bladed sword

@JohnDoe-gw7pu 3 года назад

I think you aren't used to it because the European swords you handle are designed at least in the Medieval times, whereas in China swords have mostly fell out of hard battlefield use by around 200BC latest. So these swords were designed in a time when most enemies have less durable armor or were simply unarmored, and also that the sword was reserved for ceremonial purposes, so naturally its weight and handling techniques would be quite different from the hunky medieval swords you're much more familiar with.

@Gongolongo Год назад

To add, Chinese used polearms like glaives and halberds.

@GameTimeWhy 3 года назад

I like that you discuss so many different aspects and that you even talk about edge alignment being different for different blades. Comparing that to the history channel one where if the blade fails a cut its always the blades fault.

@YauRemi 3 года назад

These kinds of weapons were used to thrust more than to slash. The flexibility of the blade allowed it to slide into open parts of the body that body armor did not cover.

@LarryGarfieldCrell 3 года назад

OMG! The Daniel Pesina clip he shows toward the end was filmed at my HEMA club location in Chicago! Forteza represent! :-) I don't know this Daniel person, but he looks highly skilled to me.

@snupjeve 3 года назад

He is the original Johnny Cage actor from the first Mortal Kombat game.

@DasHurzify 3 года назад

Just a theoretical thing, would you say the sleeker and light chinese kinds of swords would be easier to use for someone that never handled a sword? Or would something with more weight be easier to use because the weight also does more work?

@wizardswine 3 года назад

That's an interesting question I'd like to a video on. I think you're onto something with the weight doing work, it makes cutting and edge alignment that little bit easier, but honestly I think a blade that thin and light can be difficult to handle due to the flexibility.

@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

These are definitely not beginner swords. I have a Flying Phoenix, the "little sister" of these blades, and I can feel it in my wrist really quickly when swinging her. (Yes, I need a lot more practice!) You need a lot more precision and control with a light blade because there's little inertia to pull the blade through the motion.

@Pinkooru 3 года назад

Quite possibly my favourite weapons to look and chuckle at, are that of the Adventure Quest series. The weapon designers really go crazy with the non-functional fantasy weapons, some are pretty cool looking like the fan favourite blinding light, or awe blade. You should look at a few of them at some point, might get a laugh out of them

@boss-eo7cx 3 года назад

To my knowledge, these form of sword (double edges, two handed sword) were never used in warfare, They first appeared in early Han dynasty (200 BC) which used to beheaded horses in ceremony as a symbol of monarch. The real Chinese "Greatswords" used in warfare were single edged, thick blade with long handle used to against cavalry in Tang dynasty (600 AD) and Japanese pirate in later Ming dynasty (1600 AD).

@lukapichler3666 3 года назад

nah, several historical annals dating as far back as the warring states period have praised the longsword in its battle effectiveness, even some things written by Sima Quan laud the long jian for its agility and speed. Double hand jians were used all the way up into the han dynasty and then fell out of use as the ring pommel dao began to dominate the battlefield. you're right about the tang dynasty though, as the chinese longsword once again saw use in the modao and continued to be used in some form all the way into the qing dynasty. And if you really wanna get technical about it, there are even artworks depicting longswords being used through the northern and southern dynasties up to the sui dynasties, so really longswords have a rich and varied usage in chinese martial systems. I've also never heard of that han dynasty beheading ceremony and doubt a sword so light as the jian could achieve such a feat, but I don't really know.

@boss-eo7cx 3 года назад

@@lukapichler3666 I just got notify today, sorry and thanks. My reference is also came from " Shiji by Sima Qian". It documented an event 白馬之盟( My translation "Covenant of white horse") held by Liu Bang( first Emperor of Han) short after Han was established. Liu Bang behead a white horse with a two-handed sword to vow with his subjects for his monarch. Since then (at least during the Han dynasty) behead horses with two-handed sword became a ceremony for vow. Here is the wiki for '斬馬劍' but the translation is poor and misleading :en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhanmadao I highly recommend you to translate those pages yourself: zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/斬馬劍 zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/白馬之盟

@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

Peter Lorge suggests that a main use in the Han period was sword dance. I find them excellent for that purpose, but also excellent for *unarmored* combat techniques. (In an armor situation I want a polearm, hammer and mace, or iron staff:)

@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

@@lukapichler3666 Luka, none of those ancient historical sources are reliable. History and mythology were only recently separated out of Chinese scholarship, and the main weapon of battle from ancient times in Chinese seems to have been poleaxe. I would never want a straight sword in a battlefield context-too messy. Heavy, single-edged hacking blades, polearms, and maces/hammer are much more useful in an armored context. (If you don't believe me, look closely at the descriptions of heroes from ancient sources, and tell me if you think General Guan was actually 11 feet tall. For a Western referent, compare to Herotodus:)

@lukapichler3666 2 года назад

@@itinerantpoet1341 yeah I stopped caring abt what you were saying after you made a sweeping generalization on literally every period historical source.

@hmuphilly9129 3 года назад

people be like im not even an average jian

@martialman12 2 года назад

I have a two handed jian that is quite heavy for its length, almost like a katana in weight and PoB on a 30 inch blade

@sumosum0 3 года назад

I'm not sure if you have made a video on this but why don't shields have spikes on the end of them ?

@Pabooney701 3 года назад

Interesting how in the demo video the swordsman lets go of the upper swordhand to give the sword more reach and speed on the swing.

@hiimryan2388 Месяц назад

12:03 I would disagree. During the time of this sword (around 200 BC) cavalry were pretty instrumental in warfare especially by the hedgemon king of chu who used it to rapidly subdue enemies faster than traditional chariot and pikemen

@punipunipyo 3 года назад

Zan Ma Dou (Horse slayer) is not design to "cut" down horse, it's a number strategy. when your enemy have 2 horses pulling a cart with 3 soldiers, you trade one foot man to disable one cart, 3 soldiers, and two horse; suicide squad, all that foot man had to do is cut the leg or stab the chest of ONE horse, to disable one chariot two horses tied together(salvage the surviving horse later), usually killing the riders because of the speed which they travel they'd crash, or thrown out. Footman may or may not survive, but the deed is done, 1 for 3. again, it's a number game.

@江山宇 Год назад

Check this out, hope it would provide you more insights about Chinese swordsmanship and how to handle a Chinese double-edged swrod: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gv1kTPOU7UA.html

@zhoupact8567 3 года назад

I like the idea of a sword like that, but with the option to attach one, or even two extra handles. Basically just the idea of having a weapon that you could regulate the length of. Polearms are great, but you may not want to walk around with one. Especially in a fantasy setting I love the idea of something like that. In addition, if such a consept would work, then one could use different weapon heads. Need something more smashy? Well add a warhammer head instead.

@todo9633 3 года назад

European Martial Arts: Move weapon forward and stab. Asian Martial Arts: *I must dance*

@DatBoiOrly 3 года назад

Kinda reminds me of a large fencing sword that's able to cut, I think the reason it's so flexible is the same as a fencing sword to get easily to the flesh underneath the plates of armor

@farkasmactavish 3 года назад

The rapier, if that's what you mean by "fencing sword", was A) NOT flexible, because again, rigid swords are more effective in the thrust, and B) NOT a battlefield weapon, because no, it could NOT get under armor plates. It was a purely civilian weapon that was suited only for settling petty squabbles.

@2008davidkang 3 года назад

@@farkasmactavish And to trip over oneself, other people and pieces of furniture when sheathed. Also an euphemism for the length of other things which the wielder often possesses, if I'm not mistaken...

@linshitaolst4936 3 года назад

The influence of the Chinese sword on China is far less representative than that of the Japanese sword on Japan. That's because in history, China has 18 kinds of weapons used in the battlefield, and there are hundreds of strange weapons among the people. The sword is just one of them. In the officer examination of ancient Chinese dynasties, it is necessary to master all kinds of weapons

@エレダー 3 года назад

can i ask? why there are some rolls or chips on the blade, did you used it?

@ongsosr6308 3 года назад

Such a beautiful blade. The demascus looks so cool!

@elitepower3326 3 дня назад

If anyone wants to know how to use this kind of Jian, you should check out the master yu chenghui who are the best long Jian master in the modern age of china.

@rafuberirdisch 3 года назад

Unexpectedly cutful sword, very nice!!

@sethguest781 Год назад

@ 2:33 My word, she's ENORMOUS!!!! Probably not easy to draw and have ready for a confrontation likewise, swords of that stature, to the extent of my knowledge, were mainly just worn to show off the wealth and status of important high-ranking officials and nobility, etc.

@0That_Guy0 3 года назад

That's a couple of beautiful swords!

@thefifthemperor8562 3 года назад

In Chinese games they called those pole swords

@schonnj 3 года назад

How sub-optimal is it to strike below the 'sweet spot'?

@MistaKnifeguy 3 года назад

Drooooool!!! A straight edge is naturally better at thrusting than cutting yo. Unless you're slashing with the tip. You can probably thrust deep and get your "cuts" in the form of internal damage as you withdraw the blade. I imagine all that flexibility translates into major organ damage if you handle the extraction effectively, and the blade is forged for combat use. Worth noting, Jian style swords were primarily flexible for ceremonial use.

@vikingsoulreaper2131 3 года назад

looks like a dance they are doing with the sword

@KuddlesbergTheFirst 3 года назад

1:26 Were greatswords exaggerated? Just how is that gonna chop the heads or legs of full-grown horses charging at the wielder? Maybe it requires good aim and timing at the joints of the neck?

@lred1383 3 года назад

Greatswords weren't actually meant to be used against horses, but if they were used this way, it would usually be a cut to the legs. The neck is just too thick, the chance of killing the horse in a single strike would be quite low. But even if you cut halfway through one leg, the horse will just drop. So yeah, i'd say their horse-killing capabilities were exaggerated

@howzany6832 Год назад

I would be very curious to know what the "fighting techniques" that go with that sword are... like how did people actually fight with it? Mainly stabbing? Mainly swinging? It seems to be able to do a bit of both but not really anything in particular, and it has a really nice reach.

@Sk0lzky 3 года назад

Jiē zhāo ba!

@treyfelter5133 3 года назад

I personally love my Roaring dragon, but its definatly a stabber first and a chopper second.

@blue_caduceus592 3 года назад

I love the simple yet elegant beauty of these blades, but the relative lack of a crossguard kinda scares me. It's so small, I can only imagine what kinda damage your hands and forearms could take in a fight.

@Toxoplasma13 11 месяцев назад

A more minimalist sword gives you more movement and options; mobility is meant to be your main means of defence.

@ilikedota5 3 года назад

softwood and hardwood refer to the softness or hardness of the seed, not the wood itself.

@neobr1ck 3 года назад

In early Han dynasty when such configuration was first massively used, it might pose a threat to nomad cavalries, as the mounting and armor protection of those groups were not so efficient compared to later ones. Later when better mounting and cataphract appeared such swords went to an auxiliary position while polearms became major hand weapon against cavalries.

@itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

Peter Lorge's recent book"Chinese Martial Arts" has a lot of excellent recent scholarship on this subject.

@ishanj2021 3 года назад

Eastern fighting styles are mainly Martial Arts, focusing on speed. Maybe that's one of the reason the swords are light and flexible? 🤔

@voltekthecyborg7898 3 года назад

then that's doing European Martial arts an extreme disservice

@nos8141 3 года назад

Heavy sword/weapons definitely existed in East Asia, but in many case, probably right

@shahabmos5130 3 года назад

is that barbecue smoke or theatrical fog ?

@maximilianohernandez8462 3 года назад

there is a kendo sword with a shield incorporated, 2 in 1, I saw it in a TV show, camen raider i think, looks like a toy sword (for the show) but if were real it could turn kendo not so fencing and more real

@pythonBlender7 3 года назад

I know in wudang jian the point of that discipline is to go for the wrists. These were made much earlier but I would still recommend that strategy. Stop them, then kill/secure them. Thats the idea

@DanielOliveiraViolao 3 года назад

Nice. Very beautiful. Thanks!

@morlath4767 3 года назад

Wait, did you guys move again?? Anyway, solid review. I'm always interested in you doing more "unique" stuff, so I'm loving these LK reviews.

@alekseybabulin4884 3 года назад

Cool, I want the same but single-bladed.

@kyleman605 3 года назад

Darkwood Armory put a stainless steel wire wrap with turkshead on my striking eagle. It feels great and looks amazing and reinforces the grip. I also have a crack on my scabbard. I prefer the striking eagle to the roaring dragon because of the Eagle’s blade presence and grip geometry. But the roaring dragon is sturdier in every way. If the roaring dragon had a pob farther away from the guard it’d be perfect.

@FrogTonic 3 года назад

I just got an ad of people arguing over which dnd edition is better. I just wanted to see cool swords.

@erigoliardo0203 3 года назад

Hello. I love your channel! I'm using it for inspiration on making a blacksmith swordsmaker in a fantasy story I'm writing. I must even say, I wasn't even considering the character, until I saw your videos. I wonder, what does "Skallagrim" mean or stand for?

@leemcgann6470 3 года назад

The one thing that gets me is when they are taking dimensions off of a sword what is half rusted away... how do they know how thick the blade actually was? I’ve seen 2 identical pieces of metal exposed the same conditions & they rust differently & different amounts of metal rust away.

@raphlvlogs271 3 года назад

why were Chinese swords so light(thin)?

@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад

Probably to stretch their steel supply as far as possible. There are reports of some Chinese battles having hundreds of thousands of troops per side, all of whom need armor and weapons. You can legitimately use "the military industrial complex" in describing ancient China.