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@MichaelMJD 4 года назад

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@BrandonGiesing 4 года назад

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@cnnrde 4 года назад

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@BrandonGiesing 4 года назад

@@damian9303 A) Multiple security audits have found in-browser password managers to be super insecure. B) Sure you could do that but it still wouldn't be encrypted if anyone finds out and you would lose the convenience of having passwords auto-filled on login and you wouldn't be able to access said passwords away from your PC on your phone.

@NicVandEmZ 4 года назад

Michael MJD you know RU-vid is own by google

@unicodefox 4 года назад

I believe the reason behind all the bad requests and RU-vid loading Google, is that this version of iexplore is not sending the "Host" header, which is required by most servers, and since YT is hosted on Google's servers, if there is no "Host" header, it defaults to just Google

@gehx 4 года назад

User-Agent

@unicodefox 4 года назад

Also, as a side note, it will open any file that is navigated to, without a user prompt, so a malicious website could secretely redirect the user to a RAT.exe file, and it would automatically be downloaded and opened without the user knowing.

@zoomosis 4 года назад

That's it. Internet Explorer 1.5 likely doesn't support HTTP/1.1 which is necessary to connect to virtual hosts. IBM's WebExplorer browser supplied with OS/2 Warp has the same issue so is unusable on the modern web.

@locust76 4 года назад

No none of that. It's not working because Internet Explorer doesn't support modern SSL Ciphers. It's not even able to build a secure connection in order to do anything along the lines of sending a Host: header, User-Agent or even _mention_ HTTP/1.1

@JonathanGray89 4 года назад

This is the correct answer. @Salamihawk that is an entirely separate issue

@0skate0 4 года назад

New Edge Chromium looks great

@dumitrescuw.lucaandrei995 3 года назад

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@rxgtv 3 года назад

I feel like old Edge (legacy) was worse than IE. I switched to Chrome first thing

@0skate0 3 года назад

@@rxgtv imo it was actually fine but i hace switched to chrome because edge was scanning every goddamn file i have downloaded

@rxgtv 3 года назад

@@0skate0 ikr

@rxgtv 3 года назад

i forgot i made this comment lol

@9-30am 4 года назад

Wow, that search loaded instantaneously due to the browser not supporting the newer scripts.

@JS-tg7mw 3 года назад

thats the understatement of the year lol

@gmt-yt 4 года назад

Another fun idea: IE is based on NCSA Mosaic which was open source and cross-platform; also modern windowses /are/ tested against ancient visual studio versions. So there might be a way to cobble together a completely working version of, for example NCSA Mosaic 1.0 for modern windows.

@AlexToucan 2 года назад

This might be the reason they got sued.

@Dantastic 4 года назад

I remember running IE 3 on Windows Vista back in 2009, and even that was completely unusable at the time. The thing that breaks browser renderings the quickest today is SSL/TLS and JavaScript, but when you go back this far, plain old HTML incompatibility becomes a major issue.

@NathanDarkson984 4 года назад

11:36 "Good ol' Bloogle" -Vargskelethor Joel, 2014

@chrxsfn 4 года назад

oh shit didnt expect to find a vinesauce viewer here

@carolbaker5775 4 года назад

@@chrxsfn who's been drawing dicks? - Joel, Also 2014

@walktroughman1952 4 года назад

"What is my name? How about Expand Dong"

@Maya-uf7pp 4 года назад

"PU$$Y D E S T R O Y E R" - Joel

@SurmenianSoldier 4 года назад

@@Maya-uf7pp PUSSY DE- STROYER

@halfacookie 4 года назад

11:36 All that stuff at the top is CSS, which is something that makes up the looks for a page.

@tomyyoung2624 4 года назад

Yesbody: 90's people in a nutshell:

@MarwanMohamed588 3 года назад

Well this is using ID selector while now it use the class selector

@benjamincatofficial 3 года назад

I know I also know HTML CSS AND JS

@MickeyMousePark 3 года назад

i realize this comment is old..but somewhere someone said it is loading a old version of Google page..it is actually loading the current version of the page minus CSS

@encycl07pedia- Год назад

@@MickeyMousePark It's more like the current page without JS. The "current" Google homepage, even back when you wrote that a year ago, was/is using JS to link an account and personalize results. The page is still clearly being styled (incorrectly) by making the background blue.

@ckingpro 4 года назад

The way most websites work is that when you access a website, multiple websites are stored on a single server. Most browsers (even older obsolete oudated ones like IE6) send the website itself (like RU-vid) so the server knows what website to send back. Since IE1.5 does not support it, the Google servers just send Google website since IE can't tell the server that it wants RU-vid since it doesn't support this feature. The technical name for this feature is SNI (Server Name Indication) which tells the Google servers that you want to go to youtube, etc

@coleykat312 3 года назад

the reason why the google pages where "broken", is because google makes all there CSS styling in tags at the top of the HTML file. But internet explorer does not know what tags are, so It reads anything in a tag it doesn't know as plain text.

@zoechrome 4 года назад

6:07 Actually, that is not a digital signature, it is just the copyright text in the EXE resources. Code signing was added in Windows 2000

@CGGaT 4 года назад

install reactos on the $5 Windows 98 PC

@samueltulach 4 года назад

Oh yeah

@PhantomFist37 4 года назад

ReactOS is a curious case. It looks great but by all accounts it barely works. I have yet to try it myself

@RMSLusitania 4 года назад

It will react quickly

@tomyyoung2624 4 года назад

Yes credit card input needed to signup.

@RadioParanormaliumPL 4 года назад

@@PhantomFist37 When you do, try to play around with Firefox, installed via software manager. It will install some old version of Firefox and it will run. Next time you run it, it will upgrade to some newer version of Firefox. And next time it will upgrade to some version that no longer supports Windows XP... and won't start anymore again.

@BilisNegra 4 года назад

I think Google works to some point because they do know retro enthusiasts expect it to remain the only present-day page they can trust will load. I'm sure they actively ensure it will run on any browser however old (loading a legacy version of the front-en thing when really ancient software is detected).

@CocoTheMii 4 года назад

11:13 6.2 is the NT version number of Windows 8. Windows 10's NT version number is 10.0.

@win_ini Год назад

they did that in windows 8.1 if your app isn't manifested towards the new versions of windows. why? uh, umm, well...

@iusegt5206 Год назад

Applications not manifested for Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 will return the Windows 8 OS version value (6.2)

@magset Год назад

But doesn't Windows 10 inherit the same kernel from Windows Vista/7? Just like Windows XP inherits the same kernel as Windows 2000, though Windows 2000 is 5.0 and XP is 5.1.

@CocoTheMii Год назад

@@magset Could you please elaborate a little? I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

@PlaHiat3942 Год назад

@@CocoTheMii They mean the version of the kernel Windows is built on. F. ex. Every version since Vista is actually NT 6, despite Microsoft and 95% of the users thinking otherwise. And 2000 -> 2003 R2 is NT 5.

@tomaszturowski2171 4 года назад

The IE 1.5 can't use CSS, so css got straight inside probably head tag, also making the color blue by default.

@clockworkspiral 4 года назад

It almost looks like the blue color is "unclicked link blue" or something similar, i wonder if it somehow picked it up from the links on the page or something possibly.

@samuelthecamel 4 года назад

Why would blue be the default? lol

@UltimatePerfection 4 года назад

The reason for the brokedness of Google's home page is that this version doesn't support CSS and as such tries to display everything in "style" tags as normal text. And because style tags are usually put in the HEAD tag instead of BODY, CSS data is shown before any other info on the page. Dunno why site's color is blue, but it may be because of a stray bgcolor attribute left in the body tag.

@RoadRunner1980 4 года назад

Really like these kind of experiments.

@MichaelMJD 4 года назад

Glad to hear that!

@marcp. 4 года назад

You're slowly but surely getting one of my favorite channels !

@vitamins-and-iron 2 месяца назад

ooh, which one is he getting?

@marcp. 2 месяца назад

@@vitamins-and-iron LGR

@Kitsudote 3 года назад

That lead in to the ad was so smooth, I actually enjoyed it.

@Atomicitalia 4 года назад

internet explorer wasnt trying to load the old version of the site, it just couldn't load the css for it. That's why the buttons and whatnot look old since thats how the buttons and everything looks without the proper css for it.

@itmkoeln 4 года назад

Many older Programms interpret WIndows 10 as NT 6.2 while 6.2 was acutally Windows 8.0 it is provided to provide NT version for NT5 and 6 series as a fallback because microsoft changed the NT Version back with Windows 10 1507 back with the original Windows 10 RTM to 10.0... Older Programms expected the NT Version to be no longer then 9.x (decimal) so with Windows 10 beeing 10.0 it would be an unexpected value reading throwing many programs from the 2000, XP, Vista, 7 area to think it was a lower version than NT 5.0 (Windows 2000)

@foggynot9898 3 года назад

How people see the internet explorer logo : "as internet explorer logo" How I see it : E

@starcrashr 3 года назад

keep in mind, ssl had a serious exploit patched out a few years ago, and now even clients that originally supported it will no longer work with modern ssl servers because of how much had to be changed in the patch.

@Door01 3 года назад

I don't know why, but I just really like the sound of hai voice. It's just so.... Calming. And also, the way he breathes is weirdly cool.

@rintogbiabiagsnd7871 4 года назад

This guy actually sounds like the Windows 98 text to speech voice

@SreenikethanI 4 года назад

I'm ashamed I can't join you guys in the default profile picture gang

@SreenikethanI 4 года назад

@Porter Bieszk thank you lord for your forgiveness

@floofmcfloof 3 года назад

@Porter Bieszk i joined

@tylern6420 4 года назад

Lol, I love how it tried to make this "my computer is downgrading" meme.

@fabiosarts 4 года назад

why not using the 32 bit version of Windows 10? since it has 16 bit support

@codesavage3763 4 года назад

Coz 64 bit is better, 32 bit is trash

@fabiosarts 4 года назад

@@codesavage3763 does it matter when experimenting? at the end is the same thing

@TargetedIndividualinBurgerKing 4 года назад

Lx_ka YT ??? “32 bit only supports up to 4gb ram, how terrible” why would that matter if the whole point of what he’s doing is running a 16 bit program where 64bit windows doesnt support it?

@LilacMonarch 3 года назад

the 16 bit emulator included in 32 bit windows is trash, otvdm is better

@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem 3 года назад

i aggre

@billdimz 4 года назад

There is a channel called enderman that shows how to compile the *original* NTVDM for x64, maybe that will have different results?

@theenderman9042 4 года назад

I subscribed to this channel and just search in youtube: endermanch ntvdm

@HBC101TVStudios 4 года назад

@andybot89 Enderman is annoying. *laughs in Russian*

@Matthew_MBG 3 года назад

@@HBC101TVStudios bruh

@AtmosPres 3 года назад

they are friends btw

@VY_Canis_Majoris 4 года назад

We need to go deeper in the vm ception!

@RMSLusitania 4 года назад

@Dipper Pines Plays GD and more! your names deep?

@sockskits7086 4 года назад

Dipper Pines Plays GD and more! what the hell do you mean he said deeper not dipper dumbass

@samuelthecamel 4 года назад

How many vms does it take to make your computer scream?

@oscwavcommentaccount 4 года назад

10:08 r/softwaregore

@ChaseMC215 4 года назад

Makes sense

@TheWeirdMario 4 года назад

r/ihaveareddit

@netherforager 4 года назад

r/idonothavereddit

@oscwavcommentaccount 4 года назад

r/iyesn'thavereddit

@Partition2000GD 4 года назад

r/weirdsoftware 10:08 Your able to make that error

@UAVXP 4 года назад

Man, I love that loading animation at the top right of the program. Much nostalgia

@szaki95 4 года назад

If i remember correctly you can open old installers like this in a Zip program and get the contents.

@ktheveg 2 года назад

In a way, using windows 95/98 with it's old browser is actually probably fine. Any exploits for it are no longer in circulation because a hacker's time is better spent on those with better OS's, like 7 or 10. It's funny because some exploits are just "too new" for windows 9x that they just don't get hacked (as demo'd by MattKC)

@mattjw16 4 года назад

This video is exactly 20 minutes long.

@xeome5596 4 года назад

uh so? we can see that too

@vcolinc 4 года назад

Hindsight is 20:20, foresight is 20:00 Illuminati confirmed.

@faer1esoiree 4 года назад

No, it’s 20.02.

@KentReynolds 4 года назад

20 minutes of your life you will never get back lol

@paulbrookes9288 4 года назад

It won’t work

@nerwin 4 года назад

The other day I installed a copy of Windows 95 on my VM for fun and it already had IE 1.0 installed. It loaded no different than this one haha. I was shocked too how well Google actually still worked.

@nerwin 4 года назад

Getting the internet to work was another story.

@nerwin Год назад

@@karen6709 I am not too sure. Its been a couple years, but probably was VirtualBox.

@DuckPlayz21 2 года назад

I like how less then 1 minute already took from October 7 to October 31

@WalrusStu 4 года назад

You should have went to the Space Jam website.

@CopyTheCompcom 4 года назад

I agree

@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem 3 года назад

same

@NazmusLabs 4 года назад

The NT version is 10. Due compatibility reasons, Windows 10 reports NT version 6.2 to older programs using deprecated version call APIs

@NazmusLabs 4 года назад

@Jackson Tech Things because Microsoft deprecated the old API with Windows 8. Until 8, both the new and the old API worked to get version number. After Microsoft announced depreciation, the API was still usable for a couple of Windows versions. With 8.1, the API is "frozen" and exists for backwards compatibility but no longer updates. Hence you get Windows 8, the last version the API worked on.

@aared Год назад

I was 100% sure that nothing would load at all. Thank you for attempting things like this and proving they're possible

@encycl07pedia- Год назад

Not every website is JS trash like RU-vid and Instagram. It's easy to use a browser without a GUI if you know where to go.

@mattjw16 4 года назад

Why do you use OTVDM when you could just install a 32-bit version of Windows? You’re using a virtual machine! I would much rather see you at least try to run it natively.

@gizmoz2329 4 года назад

why would you try to install ie 1.0 on anything but windows?

@gizmoz2329 4 года назад

@Peter Andrijeczko That makes sense but why would you make a comment about it on a video about installing IE on Windows 10?

@mattjw16 4 года назад

@Gizmoz I’m just saying to try to install it on 32-bit Windows instead of 64-bit Windows because 32-bit Windows supports 16-bit applications. Either way, you would still be installing it on Windows.

@jonasgrill1155 4 года назад

@Peter Andrijeczko Welcome to the internet my friend! Google probably already knows all about you!

@gizmoz2329 4 года назад

@@mattjw16 I never said anything against that

@lactobacillusprime 4 года назад

Wow didn't expect this to work at all, but it did in v1.5 :)

@maxe-200 Год назад

You are creative as always

@msaadmin123 3 года назад

hey i don't know why this was so interesting to watch, tnx

@andrewrivera8651 4 года назад

The Google picture was supposed to be animated that day.

@benanderson89 Год назад

The reason why you were able to get 1.5 working on Windows 10 and not 1.0 is because the 1.5 version you're using is compiled specifically for Windows NT 3.5 if the title of the window is anything to go by. Windows 9x systems were based on the Windows 95 Kernel and MS DOS 7 calls. Windows NT is a completely different family of operating systems, but with the release of XP, all consumer versions of Windows use the NT Kernel.

@mix3k818 4 года назад

11:34 Micheal's reaction says it all

@blainepalmerza 4 года назад

Awesome video Michael

@MichaelMJD 4 года назад

Thank you so much!

@jjjacer 4 года назад

@14:15 i think thats normal even in modern IE, if the site hasn't loaded the address bar stays at the previous address, or it least it still does it like that for me.

@grigoriy_pesorin 3 года назад

16-bit applications does not support long names. Rename the folder to "IE15".

@KurtWoloch 4 года назад

I tried something similar, but less drastic... because I'm slightly annoyed by the Windows 10 calculator, I copied the calc.exe from my Windows XP installation to my USB stick... runs flawlessly on Windows 10 64-bit!

@Andrew982_ 4 года назад

I did this with Solitare and Minesweeper.

@AdrielDoesGaming 2 года назад

Damn, I wasn't expecting such an incredibly old software to work on Windows 10

@71bw 4 года назад

I died when youtube redirected to google

@thermallance7947 4 года назад

By the way... for your own personnal benefit when doing these videos. That kind of installer is more akin to a self-extracting zip file. Modern zip programs could extract it then you proceed to a manual installation. (Good old days!) If modern softwares ain't working... Use one that was made around that time. Older versions of winzip are extremely easy to find.

@kaserichardson5051 4 года назад

Learning appropriately.

@ket4280 4 года назад

Yay i can do this now (Merry Christmas)

@boneske 4 года назад

Edit: I just noticed you tried running acmsetup.exe in OTVDM, that errors out even if you extract OTVDM into the IE 1.5 setup folder. You have to run install.exe in OTVDM for it to install. Original: 9:30 If you extract the OTVDM files into the IE 1.5 setup folder you can run the installation file no problem. Just tried it on my computer.

@icefloe1337 3 года назад

Brings back memories

@RobHoffman83 4 года назад

There is a standard requiring secure connections that went into effect this year. That's probably why you're getting the errors.

@m13253 4 года назад

The reason is that IE 1.0 does not support HTTP/1.1, which version allows multiple vhosts (e.g. RU-vid and Google) to share a same IP address.

@sideoutside 4 года назад

13:48 Maybe try adding the dns information directly to the HOST file?

@sickdude8789 3 года назад

15:49 I laughed so hard

@enzonolastname1181 4 года назад

Cool video idea

@Technology_2020 4 года назад

11:56 That's some CSS code that won't load on the browser

@l0lLorenzol0l 3 года назад

That poor machine spirit must be so confused

@Michael64DS 4 года назад

Still better than Edge. Good video :)

@lemonadesnake 4 года назад

Windows has a feature which makes it able to run 8 to 16bit programs in the compatibility settings

@QuantumScratcher 2 года назад

Why 8-bit? It's not like anyone would run Commodore BASIC on Windows 10 without an emulator.

@aurastrike 2 месяца назад

The old Edge logo brought me back to a simpler time, holy

@prodeous 4 года назад

If I recall, dont' you have to add www.google.com.. old browsers needed guidance which part of the site you're accessing.

@jan_harald 4 года назад

c'mon, you're NOT using *Netscape Navigator* from 2008 yet? what are you doing with your life? ;P

@Adam-yf4cd Год назад

you should be able to change https in the browser settings it was still a thing back then just not widely used at all

@jaikishorsharan5971 4 года назад

Besides SSL it most likely does not support Server Name Indication, so that might be the reason why you get to google when you trying to use youtube.

@markusTegelane 4 года назад

I tried using IE11 once (which is the latest version before MS Edge) and many websites were already broken (Edit: Grammar)

@Martipar 2 года назад

I know i'm about 2 years late but I feel some of the errors were caused by not typing "www." HTTP was automatically populated but I'm pretty sure back in the day things fell over when I didn't type www.

@Matze14 4 года назад

You sound like Microsoft Sam, that's amazing

@tracyweensmith42 3 года назад

Nice!

@The_Triplets2551 4 года назад

Hey Michael mjd did you use Windows 10 version 2004 from May 2020 ?

@supervidak64 10 месяцев назад

what background music is this it's so good

@Therandomness1235 4 года назад

I'm surprised you didn't try a cached version of any Google search results

@RedoStone35 4 года назад

Video rating by section: 00:00 - 17:39: S+ 17:40 - 19:06: F- 19:07 - 20:00: A

@SpectraPrime 4 года назад

You can probably just install 7zip then extract the msie 1.0 setup executable and it will give you the ie files to run

@steelingcable6350 4 года назад

0:27 latest, but definitely not greatest

@WindowsOnWindows 4 года назад

Ya. Windows 7 is the greatest! :P

@Jun.Suzuki 4 года назад

i’ve had a windows 7 setup for 8 years

@steelingcable6350 4 года назад

@@Jun.Suzuki I'm using it right now

@spzl 4 года назад

Tbh the windows 10 May update 2019 has improved a lot. Personally, after this update it has became my very favourite OS from windows. Nonetheless, I still have an overwhelming love to windows 98, XP and windows 7.

@ChaseMC215 4 года назад

How horrible is Internet Explorer?

@mini_bomba 4 года назад

I think all that text on the top of the pages is some css code in a style tag that IE 1.5 does not understand...

@uwu_peter 4 года назад

11:16 ie1 right now says that your running Windows 8. Win NT 6.0 is Vista or Win 7 RTM NT 6.1 is Win 7 SP1 NT 6.2 is Win 8 NT 10 is obviously Win 10 I might not be correct about this but im to 80% sure nt 6.2 is win 8 or 8.1

@MrCed122 4 года назад

For some reason, a lot of old softwares detects Windows 10 as Windows 8, guess the string NT 6.2 is still somewhere in there.

@luciosergiocatilina1 3 года назад

Hey michael, the music in the background around the minute 14 is a re-arrangement from a no one lives forever track? It sounds very familiar.

@mohamedhajou6594 3 года назад

Geen vraag is moeilijkheden twee Windows en aard?

@jari2018 4 года назад

Couldn't the browser work on operas pages ?

@comanche8359 3 года назад

It had a install.exe build in, click on that file (I test on Windows 7 x86).

@iProgramInCpp 4 года назад

You should try the DSi browser next! (that doesn't load a thing :))

@0zne. 4 года назад

Neither does the wii internet channel

@iProgramInCpp 2 года назад

@( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) yes but nothing else

@OrangeTree3212_ 4 года назад

6:35 massive voice crack there

@jakubtrzebiatowski5308 4 года назад

you should have tried loading wikipedia

@brianrobinson3160 4 года назад

Many years ago I used internet explorer 3.0 in Windows xp

@xyzzy-dv6te 4 года назад

Because you didn't know any better, right?

@TugAndThugComputing 4 года назад

Nice I've done it before but not like that

@EnderKill98 4 года назад

Hi. Great video. Remarkable that Internet explorer still runs. A while ago I downloaded a huge torrent of old webpages (geocities) and made it available on my Raspberry Pi. If you're interested, I can send you the url. I made sure to disable HSTS and automatic redirections for the those pages. I made a bunch of scripts to find interesting sites and resources fast.

@TDGalea 4 года назад

That sounds awesome. You should definitely make it public for people to see!

@EnderKill98 4 года назад

@@TDGalea I would like, too. But I'm too concerned whether there are any problems with that. There are some pages who have selected parts of those sites. I don't want to get sued because of some songs or picture somebody uploaded. (There are many songs and private pictures included that may be problematic). I can PM you the link however. Just don't do anything extreme with that url. It's my Raspberry Pi at home. I can also send you the torrent that I used.

@TDGalea 4 года назад

EnderKill98 Go ahead and send both, that would be awesome, thanks. I've been considering making a mini archive kinda thing for random things like this; I've already got websites running so I'll probably grab myself another free domain and get that going. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@aeter34 2 года назад

@@EnderKill98 Does this still exist?

@yougnomed630 3 года назад

I effortlessly just for convenience moved the shortcut of the Internet Explorer with my icon to the desktop, turned on the compatibility mode and it started without swearing but launching Google

@mechanicwarrior20 4 года назад

You should try Internet Explorer 3.0 Next Time! I wonder how that would do?

@justanenderman9668 3 года назад

11:34 Michael: I don’t think we can just type google.com. *website generates quicker than the speed of light*

@cnnrde 4 года назад

The text at the top of the screen at 11:37 is CSS _(Cascading Style Sheets)_ of the bar that is *supposed* to be at the top of the screen on older browsers, but as per usual, IE doesn't follow those rules.

@encycl07pedia- Год назад

This is more of an issue of IE not understanding the style tag and just dumping the contents into the body rather than IE "not following the rules."