Person born with both male and female genitals meets with the surgeon who operated on him as a baby. Children born with both genitals used to be called hermaphrodites, now they're simply called intersex.
My child was born intersex or ambiguous genitalia in 2000. I was only 19 years old and something told me to not listen to the doctors or my family pushing me to "fix" the situation. I waited and let Alex make the decision. She is 18 now and doing so well. I am so proud of her.
Hi Jennifer, if you don't mind me asking a personal question at what age was it obvious she was a girl and how old was she when she had surgery to correct it (if she ever did)?
I had a cousin in Jamaica that was born intersex. The doctor told her mother that she should wait and see which gender the child took on before surgery. That was in Jamaica forty years ago. I would expect America to know better
Lisa G well if it is a an intersex kid, that’s a girl, you should remove that thing, right? Or am I wrong cause I don’t understand why this is so bad, I’m sorry.
Again an Army member its genital mutilation and it can cause pain during sex, problems during childbirth, and inability to experience orgasms. Also you just are making a choice for them that can never be undone
When I was 6 my closest friend told me she was a hermaphrodite. When she was born she had both and her parents were told to pick a gender. They raised her as a girl but without the operation. They decided she could make up her own mind when she was older. I thought she was the luckiest person alive! That might sound weird but look at it from an innocent 6 year old's point of view. She could choose whereas the rest of us were just normal regular human beings. She was extra special, magical even and I considered myself lucky to get to be her friend. She ended up choosing to stay a girl, got married and had kids of her own. The problem with people in general is that they feel threatened by anything different. Anything different has to be fixed, has to be made 'normal'. If each generation raised their children in acceptance, teach them to see the magic, etc., then no-one would feel the need to take the choice away from these special, unique children.
@@shivapriyasaraswati7171 sometimes it can be especially when it comes to sensitive stuff like gender. How can society accept your difference? It is not easy, literally so many things are affected by femininity and masculinity. Having a "third gender" will affect so many things negatively And I swear they can't live in my society for example, not because of hate but because they don't fit anywhere. And almost all of them wouldn't object to the genital surgery that they had done as babies, at least in my society
@@shivapriyasaraswati7171 it is a deformity neither and both is an accident of something going wrong as an embryo as neither system works fully as male or female in the aspect of sexial functionality and creating new life internally as well as externally but neutral isn't a gender is it?
It broke my heart to see that doctor say he liked playing God and laughed right after. Never ever surrender your power to another human. Seek knowledge first. Always.
That's because he's a quack he didn't care how he run that guy's life a sad so many sorry people out there just don't care the only thing they care about is making money off of him now he'll never be able to have babies of his own
I worked in pediatric urology and asked the doctor why not wait til the kid is old enough to choose. He said some parents don't wanna wait. But that isn't fair, its irreversible. I hope things change for these individuals.
they don’t need to choose, some people don’t care, some intersex people identify as non binary, some choose one or the other because they experience distress or gender/sex dysphoria and strongly identify with one gender. this person was given estrogen, and surgery, when he always felt more male, and wanted to have masculine hormones and development. but that’s their choice to make, individually, if you would choose to want to confuse people that’s ok too
Bri Cheesy and that is your choice. It’s not medically necessary. Men uncut are not unclean. You can clean it. They need to be taught. If you only go by ‘tradition’ and not look at what is in the best interest of the child medically. Here are some points of interests, insurance companies don’t pay for it now, and it’s considered only cosmetic. It also is a surgery that the newborn does not get any pain relief before the procedure. So the child goes threw this surgery without anesthesia..... have you ever gone threw major surgery without anesthesia? Have you had a tooth out, a nose job, or a toe cut off without pain meds before? These are also major surgeries. It’s a trama to the body that is medically unnecessary. All being said, I still understand if your belief is to blindly follow tradition. I don’t discount your belief is your opinion. That is your choice for your children. Women, also have been circumcised in Africa as well, because of belief.... I also think that’s mutilation... and yes, without anesthesia as well.... the child does not have a choice. The parents choose... just some facts.... you can google these facts and find these facts....
LauraLee Foley there’s actually no trauma* to the body. They’re too young to remember it. But you may think it’s unnecessary but to some people it is necessary because of their beliefs
I would just let my kid grow up. If they choose to have surgery when they are older it's not my decision. If they don't ever get surgery that's fine too.
dude the older they get into the hard for the surgery. I think about 5 months or so then you can see if the kids are a make a or female as appearances then decide it.
Implying that growing up with dysphoria isn't hell, or that kids won't bully someone with a bit of "gynecomastia". I grew up treated as a broken male and what's more I still had some femme internals so the way they treated me medically really caused both a lot of physical(imagine 10x the typical pain of periods, completely unable to stand up) and psychological pain.
He doesn’t have any regrets because they didn’t know better at the time, and ultimately, at the time, it was the parents’ decision. He said he would do things differently now, and that the treatment of intersex babies and children has changed over time. I’m sure he prefers handing the surgery decision over to committees now.
Same reason we don't teach a lot of things in school, because fundamentalist Christians would flip the fuck out. We can't have any pesky facts that might contradict the sacred gender binary.
Well because it would be quote on quote "INAPPROPRIATE" because I always get in trouble at school for talking about INAPPROPRIATE things such as prostate,trans,gays you know stuff like that so if they were to tell us children about it everyone would be a questioning why they came to school today, and when I get in trouble at school it is always the fucking girls that always fucking snitch like little bitches and it pisses the fuck out of me
This is a subject that is not being addressed by the non medical group in congress. Their rulings are myopic, insensitive and ignorant. Those who are born with both genitalia deserve every consideration.
Im currently have an intersex partner and the decision was made for him to be a girl. He suffered so much especially with his spirituality. He has a full beard face like a man but body parts of a female. I love him cause im bisexual and i believe he was made just for me. He lived as a girl but suffered alot so he lived his life as a stud just to avoid some of the pain of explaining. He has female parts but also have the sperm to get a woman pregnant. I just love him because he is human. He wanted to get surgery to get male parts but decided that he was just happy being who he is. I believe leave it until the dominated person inside decides. Most ppl just want it to make sense not understanding God doesnt make mistakes. My baby went thru life thinking he was a mistake and told he came from hell😭 ppl are cruel
I’m intersex too. I haven’t gotten anyone pregnant, but I have given birth once. My whole life I was called an IT, or the spawn of satan. You and your partner are so special, and truly made for each other. I love your story, I want to find someone who loves me like you love your partner. Thank you for your encouraging words.
I was born Intersex and Mom chose boy, but I grew up always feeling like a girl. I tried and tried to be a Man for 46 years before I transitioned to female. I love my new life as a woman and only wish that I had transitioned sooner.
The only person I blame, is the mother. Thirteen is old enough to sit with your child, have a conversation and ask. If this happened to me, I would let me child decide when the time is right.
Waitl!! that conversation is not for a 13 year old. When the child becomes 18 and able to make that kind of decision then yes. Don't blame the mom because you want someone to be mad at.
Considering that roughly 4 million babies are born every year in the United States alone, that’s a pretty large amount of people that are born intersex (1 in 2,000). I’ve been a very social person working in the medical field as a CNA for over 20 years. I worked both at a hospital and multiple nursing homes giving direct patient care (my job was to dress, bathe, and assist in daily activities) and during that entire time I only came across one intersex individual. She was primarily a female (she married a man and had a child) but she also had a penis (it was very small and I assume it didn’t work properly but I didn’t ask of course). Other than that lady, I’ve never even met one person that openly identified or admitted to being intersex. I think it goes to show how hard it must be for them to open up. I actually have Crohn’s disease and have a hard time talking about that openly, I couldn’t imagine how hard it would be to be intersex. I admire those who have the courage to open up about it and bring light and attention to this issue. The more people become familiar with a disorder, the less discrimination these people will feel about themselves. It’s incredibly sad to be put down and made fun of over a condition you were born with and never wanted in the first place and can’t do anything about.
Unless they choose to go one way or the other and not stay the same. But that should be a decision that should be for them to make once they're older, not for the parents.
If a female identify as a male and later learners she was intersex and they choose for to be female is it not the same?Did she identify as female?trans people identify as the opposite sex from the born genitalia. The intersex woman was born with both but identified as man. The same thing.thats why they are under the same umbrella scientifically hunny.
HazelHaz no "hunny" they are not the same. If you learned to read you would see that I said intersex people have different hormones, genitals, and chromosome. They are not just one sex and choose to be the other. They feel disconnected because in a way they are both. Trans people are one sex who for some reason believe they can switch to the other even tho it is scientifically impossible
Did you read what you wrote hunny? Doctors decide the gender of intersex based on their chromosomes and interorgans. Therefore meaning they are not completely both. They have more of eirther male or female organs but both SEXUAL ORGANS hun.in meaning they will have to transition to the gender they identify but removing or adding something.Trans have to transition to the gender they identify. That is why they put intersex and transgender under the same umbrella scientifically.Research with the same amount of energy you, you used to try and come for me.
HazelHaz oh my god no. They aren't born with both sex organs are you really that stupid? They aren't the same as trans people and never will be. Quit using intersex as a gotcha.
Alli Roma but you just stated they have different chromosomes,GENITALIA,and hormones..but now you stated they dont sweety where is your argument going?i dont understand.
I was born intersex and the discrimination against me is horrible. Recently, my second day at work, A Team Leader In The Work Place approached me and she said "people keep coming to me asking if u are a boy or girl" I said to her that I'm used to the criticism, so she responded "well with all a** u got I thought you was a woman. I went home in despair feeling like I don't belong here on Earth.🥀😭 Being 1 out of 2000 isnt easy
You were born the way you were for a reason. Don’t care about what anyone says, it makes them worse than what they really are by offending you and trying to make you feel bad, don’t let them!
I'm sorry for those unpleasant experiences you had to endure. I hope you were or will soon be able to move to a job where these kinds of comments don't take place. Tf do people care.
I feel you. I use to feel that way, that I was cursed. My abuse was so brutal. Especially because I’m both male and female equally. I look both male and female equally. I just started loving myself very recently. Don’t mind that idiot that came up trying to play silly mind games, and rent space in your head. Be courteous to, and respectful to everyone, but only socialize with people who understand and got your best interest at heart period. You are so truly amazing, and you should be so very proud of yourself! Every single inch of you from head to toe is simply perfect. Love, love,and enjoy life! You deserve it.
there is no excuse for genital surgery on a child if there are no actual health concerns. end of story. we don't chop off babies arms because they probably won't want it when they're grown up. societal pressures scare parents into giving into these doctors insisting on making their child "normal". just the fact that they often choose whichever sex would be "easiest" to turn the child into should be show enough that they don't have the child's wellbeing at heart.
Chris Relhard Agreed. Also a good argument against sexual reassignment surgery for children. When it all comes down to it, it's just some creepy doctor chopping at a child's body parts.
Pink Pepper i mean, my main issue with srs on children is reversibility. same reason that i think children with significant gender identity problems should go on hormone blockers. both surgeries and puberty are changes that you cannot reverse without extensive surgeries and hormones afterwards, and even then, you'll never get back to the original state. also, a lot of children that have dysphoria about their genitalia may be able to come to terms with it without surgery whether they're trans or not. again, any chance to limit medical intervention is good. no point cutting off healthy parts unless the patient has had psych help and comes to that conclusion on their own.
nanobot27 again, wait till the kid is at least in their mid-teens. as long as it isn't a health concern, there's no reason to put a child through surgery. they should be allowed to make the decision for themselves. and that's a pretty ableist view you've got there. clothing, houses, utilities, etc. aren't made for tall people, does that mean they should get extensive surgery to shorten their bones? what about children who are born conjoined? do they need to be medically separated even if they function perfectly and are happy together? just because they need modified clothing and equipment? what about people whose disabilities can't be solved by surgery or who have other reasons they can't have surgery? are they just a burden to society?
Donna Joshi - Donna, I was a NICU nurse at major, University hospital in tne early 80s and saw this a number of times, babies with ambiguous genitalia and male DNA. . As nurses, we were all horrified that doctor's were surgically creating female genita!ia and sending them off w female hormones. Even as preemeis, the cute, impish, little boy faces on these babies were so obvious! The doctor in this video refers to a learning curve, but they only needed to stand back and look. We nurses cringed w sadness when well-intentioned parents (guided by these doctors) would bring their babies back to visit - with what was obviously a little boy , overdressed in frilly pink and ruffles. We just couldn't believe this was happening. Poor kids, who are now all adults. Thank God doctors have come to their senses about this!
The doctor in this video speaks of a learning curve, yet this practice of surgical 'corrective' surgeries started in the 1960's as a result of Dr. John Money's 'genitals+upbringing=gender' theory. A theory he 'supported' with the John/Joan case. A case in which he FALSIFIED the information he made public and was revealed to have done so in the 1980's; 30 years since the theory was proven false! The first infants to be surgically altered were born in the 1960's. They grew up and started speaking about their experiences in the 1980's, coinciding with Money's theory being proven false, and supporting that Money's theory was incorrect with their own testimonials. Learning curve my arse. We've HAD the information for a long time already, even at the time of the older patient's birth. If this doctor, and others like him, had truly done their homework on the issue, they'd have KNOWN that it is best to allow the child to grow up to be mature enough to understand their body and their state of ebing, and to decide for themselves. The state, likewise, should know this by now. Yet doctors are STILL performing these horrible surgeries on babies that have no say in what is being done to their bodies. The state government's are STILL ordering these surgeries to be performed on orphaned children, likewise, when these people are mere babies, with no control over what happens to them. It is beyond sad. It is barbaric.
I'm born Intersex, i fight for our rights since my childhood, the right to not be a victim of the surgery, the right to decide by our self. We are humans, not cats, not dogs……….. An intersex from my family was the victim of surgery. At the age of 5, her mother decided to have her daughter operated, the male parts were removed without her being informed of the real nature of the surgery, she thought she was being removed from the appendix. . While growing up, she became male despite surgery and attracted to women, but she could never recover what was stolen from her or be a father. My mother and her second husband, they also tried to have me operate to remove the female parts, but my mother's mother and the surgeon they saw protected me. Surgery is not necessary, it is not without a victim, the destruction of part of the genitals creates serious medical complications, the body has a certain balance, most of the victims are never informed and do not have the necessary medical treatments after this surgery.
Honestly, imagine how much worse it must be for cats and dogs that are born with the same condition. They will never be able to consent to the surgery no matter how old they are, because of the species language barrier; they should be used as a model for what it's like for these children rather than a direct comparison on their species.
If I was adopting a child and I found out they were intersex and had not had surgery yet I would NOT pick their sex for them. It’s not my place to tell them who they are. If they came to me later on and said which gender they were, then I would do everything I could to help them be the binary/non binary person they are. Same goes for any transgender child. I know all too well what it’s like to be born male inside a female body and not know how to express that feeling like something is terribly wrong.
@@ashleymitts the chromosome doesn't necessarily reveal the gender the individual grows to be throughout development. Many intersex with "xy" are born with a vaginal opening and in the place of an uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes, they have undeveloped gonads in the abdomen. Basically in utero the cells in the embryo started to develop into a male but it stopped. Its called androgen insensitivity syndrome. Genetically speaking XY, is male, nonethess this goes to show sex is complex and can be non binary. In fact the majority of them grow up to be your normal average looking female with breasts with all the other exterior feminine features as well as the mental attributes.
@larshildebrandt3835 So you want boys and girls to be using the bathroom at the same times? do you not know schools, there are multiple tolits there in the bathroom. Both girls and male cant go in there buddy LOL rethink bozo
Most intersex infants are healthy and do NOT require surgery. Therefore, most surgeries performed on them are for cosmetic reasons. This rush to surgery is usually the decision of the surgeon (urologist) who has a uninformed idea that left as they are, they will suffer “psychological problems” (the average urologist knows very little about psychology) or the parents who are embarrassed that their child in ‘different’. In fact Intersex children are more damaged by these unnecessary surgeries. By the age of 24 to 36 months a child of average intelligence will start to express their gender identity and this will allow the parents to send their child to school as either a boy or girl, Any surgeries MUST be the child’s choice when they are old enough to decide.
I feel like this is different from transgender. For example, someone who is transgender already has a sex, someone intersex is meant to be male or female and the doctor is basically playing God in choosing.
I think I would give my kid the surgery and if they are older and doesn’t want to be that gender then I would be ok with them changing since I was the one that chose it but i think of i wanted my kid as a girl and chose as girl and she was ok with it then good thing I did it early on and if not it would be the same thing like the kid choosing
Karla De La Pena why wouldn’t you just wait and let them choose when their older? So basically you’re being selfish because you want a girl and would make that child a girl for your own selfish reasons. Meanwhile your child is depressed because they feel like their the wrong gender. Congratulations you just made your kids life growing up a living hell.
I don't agree with doctors performing surgery without the patient's consent, but I highly doubt that intersex children are born "perfectly as they are". This is cleary a birth defect.
AdderBittea You seem to not understand what perfection is. True perfection is imperfect in mental and physical ways.. Someone you may consider beautiful may not be so beautiful to someone else
I believe that if a child is born intersex... then they should be able to decide which one they want to be. I mean they are the ones who have to live with it. They should be able to decide when the time is right for them.
What if the intersex condition creates severe pain or other medical issues that requires immediate surgery? What if it is impossible to separate the ambiguous genitalia? What then doctor Abby? These are COMMON conditions in intersex births. Sometimes decisions must be made quickly based on the best available information at the time. No one can know what gender identity the child will have in adulthood, so stop acting like you know what your talking about. You DON'T.
dan tan i was thinking that too. technically i still think it should be the childs decision after all. But i have the same mindset, if they have male genitals then wouldnt they already have the testosterone and the male mindset?
i would think it would be easier to be a slightly feminine male as opposed to a masculine woman as well. women are expected to be small, cute, and hairless. thats harder to achieve if youre actually male.
MyFictional: all people tend to have both types of hormones, male and female. It's the ratio, not the presence, that makes some difference. Women have testosterone, too, and men have estrogen. Just not as much.
dan tan that's what is so stupid. The family is playing dumb. That family knew what was happening. Every surgery is a risk. Now the family isn't happy with their choice. Don't blame the doctor. He's just paid to do his job. They didn't have to opt for surgery either. What BS. Looking for money!!!
But listen to what the doctor said He said the parents thank him (the doctor) for giving them THEIR boy or girl. That's not his (the doctor) or their (the parents) decision to make. That's up to the child when it's old enough, if they even feel like they want surgery at that point. Because many intersex folks don't feel like they need to be fixed.
The Christian Right-Wing directly condemns transgender surgeries on minor, which I also condemn, but when intersex infant surgeries are concerned the Christian Right-Wing is hypocritical--actually encouraging such infant surgeries.
Stop the nonsense! Let an intersex baby grow up to decide for him/herself, which sex they are!. I knew of a case of a friend's sibling. Glad they waited and allowed HER to decide! The child was being raised as a boy, but was a girl at heart.
I think its interesting how the reporter tries to pin the whole thing on the doctor asking him if he have any remorse as if the parents had nothing to do with the decision to go through with his surgery when he was 13 AND keep him in the dark over the years. At that age, the parents should have asked the child what he wanted to do and such. The doctor followed the protocol they thought was correct at the time, though it was ultimately proven to be imperfect, at the end of the day it was the parents who gave consent to mutilate their child. The reporter should be asking his parents if they had any remorse instead. Also, this is a very one sided story. While I generally agree with leaving it until the child grows up to make his/her own decision, I'd like to hear if there are any consequences, whether physical or mental, to leaving it until adulthood. But that was not addressed at all in this report. It's a very one sided argument leaving the viewer with insufficient information to truly understand the situation.
What is really horrifying is that as recently as 2004-2006 (I can't remember the year exactly.) They were charging parents who refused the surgery with "Medical Neglect", taking kids from their parents, and performing surgery on them, as "Medically Necessary". And Even If the parents got the kids back, it was done, and nothing they could do about it. Truly Fucked Up.
7:02 CLERGY!!!! Should NEVER be involved in this conversation. Only medical professionals. If it has no adverse effects to the babies health leave the child alone. Their social experiences are not a reason to perform permanent surgery it’s more so an indictment of us being ignorant or bigoted about this matter. Do away with this gender binary. It’s nonsense when intersex people exist and are living healthy happy lives. Change the society, not the intersex babies.
I realize that in, for example , the 50s, people weren’t an informed as today. I’d definitely wait for my child to decide. It’s so sad. I couldn’t imagine feeling like I was in the wrong body.
Tieia Middleton A chromosome test would help. They didn’t have that test in the 1950’s. Chromosomes are the final determination of your sex. I do however think that an intersex child should be able to chose for themselves.
Destiny Price 420 Bitch, you have female privilege. All women do is complain but they get treated things on silver platters. Lol who's out to get you? No one.
Destiny Price 420 There's your first problem, you believe there's actually a wage gap. It doesn't exist, look it up. Men just work more hours than females.
Now this is actual news concerning genetics! These are the type of individuals who are ACTUALLY struggling with their gender identity and I have complete sympathy for them. They deserve a place anywhere they choose in this society. However, for others who are a part of the LGBTQIA community, purposefully teaching children how to be gender dysmorphic, bringing leftist ideologies, destroying the role of men, and distorting biology, you can push on with that garbage! If your complaints are not legit, then don't bother trying to get the support of the people. We don't have time for whiny people trying to push an agenda, taking away from and downplaying relevant topics such as the struggles of intersex persons.
Leave these children alone -.- let them decide for themselves. Hell there may people out there who are perfectly happy living as they are and don't want a gender specific surgery And he really wants to say there's no regrets? That's kinda heartless
Not pushing these children to be the sex the parents want them to be, is not right. There are currently some homosexual couples who are pushing children they adopt, or have, toward the sex *they* want them to be. That too, is not right.
+ladykiri42 The only people who should be making decisions about non-reversible genital surgery are the patients themselves. I highly recommend you do some research. Read things posted by the Intersex Society of North America, aka INSA an educational website run by people who are intersex themselves. You can find their faq here: www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex MOST intersex people who were altered at birth will tell you (regardless of whether their mental gender matches the sex they were surgically assigned) that they wish they had never received the surgery; or at least not have had it performed on them when they were a non-consenting child.
I hope I never have a kid who is born like this. If I do though I would probably leave my kid's genitals alone until they were old enough to decide themselves. Maybe it is not necessary to wait until the kid is age 18 before letting the kid decide, but at least not until the kid has reached the age of reason and has spoken with a trained psychologist before letting the inter-sex kid make any choice (with the parent's consent of course) on surgery.
I would, too. I'd name them something gender-neutral and dress them in gender-neutral clothing until their behavior or words gave me an idea of a gender they'd prefer to dress as. As far as surgery, not until they ask for it and they'd get whatever they asked for.
+DeliciousPoison I agree with you although what we're still missing is a gender neutral pronoun. I think children should ALL have gender neutral pronouns and that this option could be continued into adulthood. I think this would also be beneficial to the whole of society being that we are still batttling between the sexes xx
Luna Quattrocchi I would leave my kid's genitals alone, but I would probably pick one sex (male or female) to put on my kid's official legal documents. That is until they expressed they wanted to be identified as a different sex. It is just so much simpler to have one gender in our gender based society. It is not easy to fix bad decisions made in regard to surgery (if they can be fixed at all). By comparison, it is relatively easy to have legal documents (such as transsexual individuals also do) altered to accommodate your child in the event you made the wrong initial prediction of their mental sex.
FinalLugiaGuardian agreed. Unfortunately the paradigm shift is taking longer than we would like and in the best interest of the child a certain level of privacy is also a basic right. It makes me so happy to see when forms have an option to tick female/male/other. It doesn't happen often but at least it is beginning to happen. And I'm even seeing more and more gender neutral bathrooms particularly in yoga studios x
if a newborn has ambiguous gender or is intersex (has both), just do a DNA test to see if it is XX or XY, then start making decisions from there before rushing into surgery.
He's a conceited old bullying dinosaur who can't admit he's wrong and should have lost his license years ago. He's practicing mutilation of healthy babies.
The way he responded to the man who made it clear the procedure he performed on him was the wrong one proves otherwise. Admitting he enjoyed playing god and laughing after doing so proves otherwise. Did you even watch the video?
It's not Intersex but the case of David Reimer always upsets me, he was forced to become a girl when he was a boy and because his choice was taken away it ended up effecting him so badly that he killed himself. Intersex children should always be left until they know for definite that they are a boy or girl, no offence to Transgender people but they are allowed to chose yet these kids aren't and have that choice taken away? It's disgusting.
SalemGrimm Intersex individuals can also 'chose' to identify contrary to what people recognize them as. It's not like trans people have it easy. The same avenues that are open to trans people are also open to Intersex individuals who were forced into the binary. As a matter of fact, it might be easier for them due to them being born intersex and all.
Astronomical, that's not necessarily the case. Whereas transgender people can have their healthcare covered by insurance, because I am intersex it is considered mutually exclusive. So my insurance will pay for testosterone but not estrogen(I don't produce sex hormones), nevermind that testosterone isn't even a valid option given my gender and the state of my liver(plus it made my internal sex organs very angry). Also, I was getting that bullshit long before I started talking about that with my boss talking shit about me, extreme difficulty job hunting due to my androgyny, etc. For others, such as people with AIS, testosterone might not even work.
Isn't that the guy that was castrated as a baby bc they screwed up his circumcision and didn't know how to fix it so they just gave him a sex change as an infant?
I was lied to my entire life. I didn't know I was born intersexed until I was 32 years old. I was turned into a female. I hadbeen married for 6 years and didn't know anything was wrong or different than other women until my husband began askingme questions I couldn't answer. I paid a lot of money to get original records from 1964 and took them to my primary carephysician. The first thing I felt was shock. Now, the questions my husband was asking made sense. I confronted my Mom and Dad about all it the next day and niether would even speak with me about it. My parents committed suicide 6 months later. Just 2 months after my parent's suicide; my husband divorced me. That's all been over 20 years ago now. I live everyday afraid to have any feelings of affection for anyone other than my baby brother. I love him like he was my own child. We are 7 years apart and even he didn't know about my gender re-assignment surgery. My grandparents knew and all my aunts and uncles knew. No one ever even gave me so much as an inkling of an idea. From the time I was young (5 or 6 yrs. old) I was scared of being a lesbian. I knew I was a girl and I preferred female over male. I should have had the chance to be raised as a boy. That's what I was meant to be. I remember a surgery I had when I was about 10 or 11 years old "to repair hernias" was what I was told. But,the truth of it was; they were removing my testicles and finishing what was started when I was only about 9 months old. I sill live as a woman because I don't have a choice to do otherwise. Homosexuality is not an option and has never been throughout my life due to strong religious belief. But what if all this time I have believed wrong? I still can't ever see a future as a "wife" ever again because I'm too afraid of "being found out" after my husband divorced me. Life can be strange.
Karen your story is touching, religion has made us live life as if we are in prison cells, locked up and never free, your loss could have been avoided by just your Parents accepting who you were and be free! I pray that you get peace one day and enjoy freedom and have life in fullness.
Forget religion. God is an internal reaction in your brain rather than a physical entity. God isn't going to punish you, because god is completely internal and consciousness ceases in the end. You're a good person, try not to let the bible blackmail you into doing something that doesn't work for you. My advice is to just find a reliable friend, punch some sense into your ex and sue the crap out of your family if they're still alive. None of this is your fault and you deserve so much better.
You are so amazing! What a testimony. I thought my life was hard. I stand up and applaud you for your strength and your courage! I’m intersex too, I’m 50, and lived much of my life with abuse or feelings of shame and guilt, and inner turmoil. At 50, I just started loving myself and life. I had to tell myself that no more pain and suffering, it’s time to finally live., and love, and live out loud in color! Enjoy life! Only be around those that love me, and care and want my happiness and best interest. You’ll find love again or for real this time, because it will be somebody that has been through what you have as well. Someone who understands exactly what you are going through and have been through, someone who only wants to see you happy, and protected and cared for, and loved and cherished. Who knows exactly who you are, and respects you more for it. You should be so proud of yourself, for what you have endured and what tomorrow holds. You should smile, because your future looks amazing from here. Love you my friend. I’m rooting for you! Seek those that are like you, no more hiding.
@@morrisgoss1858 Thank you for your kind words. You and I are both part of a special kind of people and I appreciate your heart felt message. It brought a tear to my eyes and a lot of joy and acceptance to my heart. Be blessed my friend and thank you again.
My cousin was born this way and had always felt played and talked like a girl .At 21 she had test to confirm biological what gender she was and the test came back medical confirmation that she was she was biologically a female born with parasitic genitalia part of what was supposed to be her twin but the egg did not separate properly. Sorry for all the children whose choice was taken from them .
They didn’t have s gender test most likely and probably just changed all to girls because the penises are probably micro penises and it’s easier to remove
When a child is born intersex the question is, which sex can become a parent. A classmate of mine had the external look of a male, but internally was a female. Thankfully when he started to penetrate (first time the family even knew about his internal organs) they did the right thing for her. They moved away from.the area, and got surgery for her. She is now a great Mom who is thankful that her hub and does not care 1 iota that for 12 years she was 'male'. She too was what is medically called a chymora, a surviving twin that absorbed a twin that did not survive. Many times when a hermaphrodite is born that is the true case.
I have a cousin who was born intersex, her mother was 15 at the time of her birth and was pressured in making a decision and they decided as surgically making my cousin a girl and she grew up as the emotions and mentality of a boy. She's accepted it and is more in touch with her masculine side but I've always felt she was robbed of her decision.
The infant was born with an anomaly requiring surgery. Without intercession, the infant would grow to experience confusion, rejection, self-disrespect, and perhaps even worse. In the vernacular, that's a child with a broken future.
Richard Ronk funny cause you described a trans life and upbringing so why are these people saying intersex is more accepting then trans?Trans grow up with confusion,self hate,and discrimination.
As a woman myself I’d never choose for my child to be a female if I had the option for them to be male. Being a female in this world is hard I’d never choose that for anybody.
It seems to me, that if 1 in every 2,000 babies are intersex, (and I've heard 1 in 1,000 before) we need to consider, that either, A.) ambiguous genitalia is normal, or B.) figure out what we're doing, or being exposed to, that causes it.
t maria you hit it right on, I too believe something is happening that is causing this.... I've been woke on a lot of things going on in Hollywood, something is not right & there is a hidden agenda with being both sexes... You may not be familiar with what I'm saying, I have done a lot of research & know something is not right🤔
Satan is ruling the earth right now & wants to go against God so everything is not what it seems.... So much deception here on earth, we have free will to choose but with intersex going on something is off.....
Every person's external genetalia begins as male. At some point it does not fully develop one way or the other. I believe that it is the same as any other birth "defect". One that has an unknown cause. In my opinion it's no different than a limb that never fully developed or a spine that never closed completely. I had a coworker who was told that she was having a girl. However when her baby was born they had ambiguous genetalia. The baby was not able to urinate properly due to the severity of the defect and surgery had to be performed. Genetic testing was performed first and it was determined that the baby was a boy based on his chromosomes. I never saw what his genetalia looked like but she said that it appeared to be a penis but his urethra was not where it should have been
peepslostsheep I agree but it would certainly give at least something to go from in an intersex child, as more people are cis-gendered than trans in the population.
peepslostsheep oh i just realized that i was talking to an idiot. but hey, good job spelling the word chromosomes. jk you copied it from me. good luck, common moron...
MrTiredmatt "common moron..." From the person who cannot capitalize, or more importantly, state what about my post is inaccurate or 'idiotic'. People resort to insults when they know they've lost. I'll take this as your aggressive resignation from the topic.
This is a very arrogant doctor. If you are faced with a patient who is unhappy with the results, you should at least feel empathy. This surgery changes the course of a person's life. At the very least, respect how they feel.
intersex isn’t a problem that needs to be fixed. performing surgery on a child for appearance reasons (like circumcision and deciding what sex you want them) is wrong and you should let the child decide when they are an adult. leave babies genitals alone!
+Lorelei Lets Live Together they got well paid too and they get to see virgin dicks n pussies all the time. look at the docs eyes. it's red, yo get that when you see too much genitals
One of my cousins was born this way back in the late 1940's. He was raised & named as a boy and my aunt & uncle were embarrassed by him because it was obvious he was more feminine than masculine (beautiful and had black hair & green eyes like his sisters). When he was old enough he made the transition through Stanford University to become the woman he was born to be and eventually married.
I agree with that doctor fully. I think the surgery should be postponed up until the child is developed enough so they can figure out their personality and which biological features are dominant. But I agree that the surgery should be done before adolescence. It can be traumatizing and confusing for a teenager to grow up not really knowing what gender they are. Teenagers are an emotional wreck anyway. It's very easy to make a wrong decision with such pacients. And I also understand why the doctor wanted to stop the interview. He didn't want to stop his meeting with the pacient, but just didn't want for the media to twist his words and make him look bad.
I love that...Gender is not in the Genitalia! Gender is a socially constructed idea people. What happened to him and others is not ethical. Like other ethical issues, it is not for a doctor or even a parent to decides one's gender. Thank you for sharing your story and making people more aware of the harm that can come to those who are intersexed and forced to have surgery.
I sure as hell would! I'm a girl and I love being a girl, and I'd rather be a girl with a dick than a girl forced to live a lie for the benefit of my parents.
Many times the brain and the body do not match gender identity, even though genitalia male or female are present. Survival may cause the brain to make an alternative decision regardless of societal dictates. I was born a boy. My mother wanted a girl. As a child she treated me like a girl, let my hair grow long, down to my legs. My brothers and sister treated me like a girl for the first few years of my life. Genetically, mentally I was a boy. My older brother was circumcised, I was not. I grew up thinking I was a girl boy because I had a foreskin. I had boy toys, and girl toys, and played with both. At school I played boys games with boys and girls games with girls. I grew up male bisexual. In puberty I danced with girls, but was not aroused by then. At age 3 I was introduced to sex by a older male. I then had sex with several boys closer to my age, I liked it. I then had sex with a girl my age (3 years) I didn’t like it. I prefers boys. I was attracted to boys. I had girl friend and boyfriends at the same time in the same bed, and sexual with both. I got married and still had sex with both sexes at the same time. I identify as male, I’m not feminine. I have children and grandchildren. I’ve been married to two different women, and one man. I have had girlfriends for years, and boyfriends, and still do. I have no problem dating even now. Attraction is in the brain, as is sexual identity. So stop chopping off body parts, and trying to force idealistic sexual identity on other people. People will choose for themselves what they like or don’t like regardless of outside interference. Have a good life and be yourselves, forever.
My God. They are playing with children's lives. Creating literal confusion.. this is the beast creating this.. Jesus please help the children.. Please pray for those people...
We are angels in human form there's nothing wrong with us but when we are altered it harms us, this is one of the main reasons we end up losing, there's more to the picture than you can see, and your right it is Lucifer doing this to us, if you look now seats to what those in power are promoting you might see how we are still victims and abominations are being made, Lucifer uses humans to bring about his plan and will their just unknowing or uncaring of this fact humans will never be God nor will Lucifer.
@@TTThebookofsorrows You're smoking meth or something... You need to lay off the drugs. There is no such thing as Lucifer or god... And even at that, If there was, If you really knew what you was talking about, Lucifer wasn't really even considered evil.. He might be the king of Hell but his job is to punish the bad & only that, Its not to create evil. Fuck man, I don't even believe that bs or read the bible & even I know that.. Angel of truth huh? More like imbecile of false truths..
@@luniz3429 I hope and pray you do realize there's a God I k ow alot of people get annoy by it but it's true.. Watch christforgiveness ministry atheism exposed... I can choose not to believe but God already gave me evidence that he exists ❤️ God bless you dude I really do hope you believe just take the time to listen even though it sounds crazy in Jesus name or watch 'living waters' on youtube as well
That Guy You Know people can have different levels of testosterone and estrogen which lead to different gender identities. If someone has equal amounts of testosterone and estrogen they can feel like they are neither and don't fit into the binary. So yes there are ore than two genders.
Liam Trumbore It's funny when people like you make up all this crap and still aren't capable of understanding it. I said biological sex, not gender. Last time I checked, special snowflakes said that gender is a social construct or was gender is a spectrum.
+SN - Old channel Exactly right, and they may feel IS not either male or female..they are born that way so its up to them to decide what they want to be. If they want to be IS that should be ok too..seeing as 1 in 2000 births are IS there should be a third option on birth certificates for IS.
