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Interventions - "Identity Politics: The Uses and Abuses of a Term" 

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'Interventions' is a new series on Zer0 Books and Repeater Media which explores important philosophical concepts and political terms in short form. Bill Cashmore kicks off the series with a discussion of identity, identity politics, and the history surrounding relevant debates.

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29 окт 2024

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@atwarwithdust
@atwarwithdust 9 месяцев назад
“‘Identity politics’ is not a good thing. We are tuned to love a certain kind of identity, and that’s fine, but that cannot be the basis - especially if we’re intellectuals - of our understanding of the world. … We cannot help being somewhat happy about what we are, I hope in fact (though it’s a fake kind of thing), but our real effort is to go away from it, so that my identity is everyone else’s identity. I can’t do it, but one must work as hard as possible. … To an extent, when we want recognition, we are responding reactively to injustice that’s being done to us. That is important - *Black* Lives Matter, *Black* Lives Matter - but we must remember that, without saying ‘all lives matter’ and undoing the power of the movement, we must remember that this is where we have been put by centuries of racism, this is not who we are. This is called a double bind - the fact that you have to learn to play contradictions (‘play’ is a strong word here, it’s a name for ‘practice’) rather than simply go for recognition. I don’t want recognition. Who has the power to recognize anyone - you know what I mean? I want the law - knowing that law finally is not justice, there must be this persistent other work at the same time. I don’t want just recognition. Recognition is a pat on the back. It’s easy to say, it’s easy to say, but push comes to shove, it ain’t there anymore.” - Gayatri Spivak, January 6th 2021 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gJ7yJ3Hs_pI.html “We must not fall into the defense of an identity, absolutely opposed to the machines of death, that will in the last instance become a part of the machine we seek to oppose.” - Bill Cashmore, ‘We Hear Only Ourselves’, 2023
@billiecashmore
@billiecashmore 9 месяцев назад
This warrants a response! I take it that a politics that *begins* with identity does not have to think of itself in terms of defending that identity. That is, identity politics is a strategic response to a particular instance of domination. My point was really to show that those who think identity politics is always uch a defense of identity are perhaps not reading closely enough. Identity isn't an end in itself, and we should understand ourselves as trying to resist it - I'm just not sure we can cast it aside as if we had already escaped identity!
@atwarwithdust
@atwarwithdust 9 месяцев назад
@@billiecashmore Agree, I was intentionally being a little provocative. For me, the double-bind is akin to how Lenin thought about nationalism or how communists might conceive of money: however fake, you can't just wish either nationality or fiat currency away. There will be times, as with Marx's support for Irish independence, when we should strategically seek to affirm national identity - even though we eventually want the workers of the world to unite. Similarly, you might find a communist protesting alongside a liberal to raise the minimum wage to $20 an hour - even though the former advocates the abolition of wage servitude itself and the elimination of money. Anyway, I'll be citing the above video in an article I'm writing on Pee-Wee's Big Adventure and identity politics, alongside William Clare Roberts' critique of class abstractionism, Ian Haney López's call for race-class political messaging, and Olúfẹ́mi Táíwò's account of elite capture. The Audre Lorde quotation is helpful as well. I follow this basic line...
@atwarwithdust
@atwarwithdust 9 месяцев назад
“Consider gender relations. In developed capitalist countries, women have become more independent from men and more equal, both legally and economically, than ever before. Nevertheless, they still are subject to sexual predation - as Trump has helped to highlight - and they still do the bulk of caring labor, whether for free or for low pay. Now low-paid care-work fits the account of exploitation found in Marx’s ‘Capital’, but the work they do for free does not. Feminists have often criticized Marx on this point, but since ‘Capital’ is intended to elucidate what makes the capitalist system tick, so to speak, unpaid labor is irrelevant; so this criticism is not to the point, in my opinion. Marxist and socialist feminists have, however, developed an enriched account of social reproduction which tries to supplement the account given in ‘Capital’, showing the importance of this labor, both in human terms and for capitalism. The extraordinary improvement of gender relations within capitalism raises the question of whether women and men could ever be totally equal within a capitalist society. Liberals think so. And some Marxists seem to imply it by their contention that, unlike class oppression, sex and race oppression are not essential to capitalism. But, while they’re not *logically* essential - that is, we can imagine a gender-, race-neutral version of capitalism - it does not follow that they’re incidental. Indeed, as Marxist feminists including myself have argued, they’re very likely *historically* or *pragmatically* necessary. Consider what women have and have not achieved. What they’ve achieved are their basic democratic rights, which do not threaten profits. But care-work in the US is still largely a private responsibility, because supporting care-work as the public good it certainly is would seriously cut into profits. In other countries with more generous social supports, the advent of global neoliberalism has meant drastic cutbacks. The nature of capitalism has thus put constraints on gender and racial equality. Today, while individual women and minorities have moved to the very top ranks of society, class differences among women and among Blacks have actually increased. Any movements that could reduce sex and race oppression must be based on working class struggles, integrating other forms of oppression. Thus the counterposition of class and so-called ‘identity politics’ is misleading - indeed, counterproductive.” - Nancy Holmstrom, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-me_mZCUz_9M.html/?t=45m47s, 2017
@naughtiusmaximus789
@naughtiusmaximus789 9 месяцев назад
I like how this channel introduces a 20 min vid as a "short video" while the rest of youtube (and even youtube's very own inbuilt search filters) consider it to be LONG 😂😂
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