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Interview: EXJW Former Elder and Pioneer 

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In this video I got a chance to interview my friend Patrick who tells his story of growing up as a JW, becoming an elder and pioneer and eventually waking up to freedom. There are so many great points and topics throughout this interview that I'm sure many EXJWs can relate to. I hope you all enjoy this one!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:13 Family history with JWs
2:46 Teen Years as a JW
4:48 “Worldly” Friends Compared to JW friends
6:20 Early Adult Years
8:10 Changes after baptism
12:27 Progression as a JW (Becoming an Elder and Pioneer)
30:33 Waking Up
*Since many in the EXJW community are still recovering from religious trauma, this channel is purely for discussing JW and EXJW culture. This channel will not be used to promote Atheism, Christianity or any other belief systems.

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@romeloburnett
@romeloburnett 2 года назад
As a disfellowshipped JW myself, it is ironic that the things that you once feared the most (disfellowshipping, divorce) and cause some of the greatest pain one can ever feel; ultimately are what can lead you to the greatest emotional liberation and relief one can ever experience.
@realliving7340
@realliving7340 2 года назад
So true😃❤
@barbarajohnson9050
@barbarajohnson9050 2 года назад
Isn’t that the truth?? So ironic. So true
@lost4199
@lost4199 2 года назад
It's true.
@jimbobaggans1564
@jimbobaggans1564 2 года назад
That is so very true. Getting out of a cult is liberating. Out of a bad marriage is a close second. I made up my mind that I would never to do either again.
@bribribts
@bribribts Год назад
I should’ve took the hint the second time I got dissed 😅😂
@nadinekrolick6133
@nadinekrolick6133 2 года назад
Thank you so much Patrick for this video. Mama loves you so much honey. I’m your mama and had to leave you to get away from all the abuse I endured while married to your dad I’m so proud of who you have become. ❤️
@Xerfing
@Xerfing 2 года назад
I’m so sorry that happened to you. There’s a lot of that inside the cult.
@mjp8494
@mjp8494 2 года назад
😪
@montezaheard8248
@montezaheard8248 Год назад
This breaks my heart. I fully understand you, as one of Disfellowship in 2006 for doing what I had to do to divorce a manipulative controlling JW Husband. It’s hard to see all the fake “brotherly love” when your still blindly devoted to the organization.
@yadirasanchez2639
@yadirasanchez2639 9 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure that he knows the pain you have gone through, and I bet that he loves you too Mamás
@aspenenglish4976
@aspenenglish4976 6 месяцев назад
So sorry you had so little time with your son. He’s a well-spoken, good hearted, lovely young man. I hope you two have time to heal your relationship.❤️
@pviau90
@pviau90 2 года назад
Thank you so much for letting me tell my story Justin, I look forward to doing more videos with you in the future!
@exjwdiaries
@exjwdiaries 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing it! Your story will help so many people.
@yogi19581
@yogi19581 2 года назад
Absolutely brilliant patrick thank you, your life is just starting now, good luck for the future 👍 isn't it wonderful to be FREE.
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 2 года назад
Patrick, I was so impressed by your courage and boldness in telling your story. Your story proves once again how very narrow minded and non understanding this organization is. It's not a so called loving organization as it proclaims to be. Nothing even close. Causing division and the break up of families is something directly against the family arrangement that God instituted in the first place. The GB teaches their elder body to be callus and cruel to everyone that misses the mark of perfection. Individuals are treated like trash and thrown out like they never knew you. There's no help, no encouragement, no rehabilitation, nothing. Its nothing but shame, guilt and judgment. Its interesting how this GB talks about FORGIVENESS, BUT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. Its very disgusting and despicable. The hypocrisy is so ridiculous that it sinister. You have definitely done the right thing by not going back to a very abusive, high controlling, narcissistic culture. I am glad that you have a relationship with your mother and you can now live your best life, fulfilling your dreams and aspirations. You will find another mate. You are a very attractive young man with a good head on your shoulders. The best way to prove this CULT wrong, is to become the biggest success in your life. This CULT is an EXTREMIST GROUP and more and more people are leaving and waking up. The more you tell your story the more you help someone else from becoming a victim or helping them get out of this sick and wicked cult. That's the REAL LIFE SAVING WORK. I wish you all the success in the world and happiness. You are a HERO!!!!!. Thanks So Much. 😊
@timbothegreat7767
@timbothegreat7767 2 года назад
Great interview - really hope you're doing ok. Hi from England!
@thedemysticist6730
@thedemysticist6730 2 года назад
Hey Patrick, are you part of the PIMO/Ex elder's discord? Email me if you'd like to join, I've found a lot of support there.
@eviefriend3976
@eviefriend3976 Год назад
I enjoyed this video. Thank you. I was raised JW. My husband and I were JW together for 10 years and then we left the organization after reading Ray Frank book. We have done a lot of exploration and now we just read the Bible together and pray every morning and that is all we need. Jesus is our Lord and Savior- no men telling us what to do. God bless you!
@blackmanpower7484
@blackmanpower7484 2 года назад
Thank you for your story.One of my biggest regret in my life is me confess my sins to these men call JW elders. If you knew what I had to deal with in the congregation (Unknowingly behinds the Scene) The slander and Pure Hatred from men that I thought was loving Brothers was one of the biggest shock of my Jehovah witness life. I urge all that read this comment DO NOT I repeat DO NOT confess your transgressions to them they do more harm than Good.
@wjsjallday
@wjsjallday 2 года назад
Never allow yourself to be judged by imperfection men
@chrisdurant4627
@chrisdurant4627 2 года назад
Blackman power, read.psalm 64, and.140, brilliant, satan can use the.elders, yes,.didnt jesus.say to peter,, get behind me.satan,,.you think the thougts of.men, so yes.he.can use any one.of.us,,,
@darlenepatrick4619
@darlenepatrick4619 2 года назад
Yes, I agree. Going to the elders was one of the most stressful times in my life 'confessing my sins', answering to them ,them watching, judging and being marked was so depressing. I tell everyone that asks me don't get involved with this mess.
@exjwwokeup1617
@exjwwokeup1617 2 года назад
I second that motion!
@mjp8494
@mjp8494 2 года назад
So true.
@cleareyesandopenmind9054
@cleareyesandopenmind9054 2 года назад
This is a great interview. I love how the questions were in text. Too often good interviews are ruined by the interviewers interjection into the story. Patrick has such a compelling story too. Glad he was able to tell it as it is.
@exjwdiaries
@exjwdiaries 2 года назад
Yes!! I’m glad we did it in a way that allowed Patrick tell his story freely.
@SR-ry6hs
@SR-ry6hs 2 года назад
@@vusimngomezulu2500 or you could listen to his story, and find some compassion. If you have any left.
@danielcolla4530
@danielcolla4530 2 года назад
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Why is Mat. 28:19 Father and Son in capital letters and Holy Spirit in small letters? Here we go teaching a corrupted Scripture of the Jehovah idolatry. The Governing Body invented who knows how in 1919 the channel to Idolatry, lying and destruction. The 8 puppets in Warwick put into practice to the letter Proverbs 6:16-19. And you think they still have jehovah's favour?
@SR-ry6hs
@SR-ry6hs 2 года назад
@@vusimngomezulu2500 if you base your entire life on one book, written 2000+ years ago, you are close minded. We as a society have come a long way since then. Learned that the Bible has many many errors and contradictions. We have learned to trust science and developed a much better form of morality. It seems you aren't there yet. Do more actual research. Look up some of those doctrines the Bible teaches. Stop spouting nonsense.
@danielcolla4530
@danielcolla4530 2 года назад
@@vusimngomezulu2500, Do you know how to read the Bible? Those verses you quote are exactly what JW do..... " say Lod, Lod.. or Jehovah.. Jehovah, they are false prophets ........... These very own verses you quote completely condemn JW in their own face. Just read the Bible properly as it is written!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bellavega8048
@bellavega8048 2 года назад
If you are a Jehovah’s Witness watching this, let’s this be a lesson to you, NEVER CONFESS TO THE ELDERS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
@chrisdurant4627
@chrisdurant4627 2 года назад
True, thats.were.I went wrong, psalm )64, jah, watches.everything,
@mjp8494
@mjp8494 2 года назад
@@chrisdurant4627 me too
@definitivamenteno-malo7919
@definitivamenteno-malo7919 2 года назад
@@chrisdurant4627 "Jah watches everything" is just the fearmongering way of saying the sad reality: everyone around you is a snitcher. Don't trust no religious if you need freedom.
@brendagordon4571
@brendagordon4571 Год назад
Why?
@shamrox12
@shamrox12 11 месяцев назад
I agree, I confess my sins to God alone! Not men. Do they believe they are like priests? JW"s don't even believe Jesus is our mediator.
@romeloburnett
@romeloburnett 2 года назад
Seems like his former spouse signed up for the title of Mrs Superman, not Mrs. Clark Kent
@diyguyawake8107
@diyguyawake8107 2 года назад
Glad you made this video! As a Exjw elder I’m so glad this man woke up! It’s the hardest time of life but the best thing that could happen. Thank you for your wonderful way of doing Your activism! Very enjoyable. 👊😊🙏
@RY-rz5fg
@RY-rz5fg 2 года назад
Great interview, thanks Patrick. It’s amazing how much power over your life this org has. We all have such similar stories and experiences that we can relate to. The judicial committee is such an evil tool used by untrained men to railroad people, a lot of times they already have decided if they want to punish you. It’s amazing how they can cover up child molestation, yet cause irreversible damage to so many young people that are just going through normal sexual discovery. Stay strong, you’re free.
@maxinemortimer714
@maxinemortimer714 2 года назад
No other words.. Just excellent!
@valissiasmith3312
@valissiasmith3312 2 года назад
Lloyd Evans is "the truth" about "the truth." I fumbled up on him after watching one of your videos. Dude, too long in between videos, but worth the wait. Truly enjoyed his story. Truly enjoying your videos, Justin, looking forward to seeing more, 😊
@fitcwebb
@fitcwebb 2 года назад
He reveals some useful things. However, we can't make the mistake of being fully influenced by any one person. Be careful of anyone who does this full time, because when a "production" takes priority, sometimes an agenda becomes too important
@pendingnewname7232
@pendingnewname7232 2 года назад
I think Lloyd is one of the "full time" activists that we need right now. If we don't have people taking it that seriously, exposing the rhetoric of the JWs, then what is going to change? I see these activists as watchdogs, a type of role that many people do in government, business, etc. to ensure that powerful groups and individuals are not allowed to abuse others without comment or awareness outside of the situation. We need activists like Llyod and many others to take on this cult, to make a record of the secrets and lies of the JW leaders.
@Womanmad1
@Womanmad1 Год назад
Especially if they are making money from it as well. I like Berenice Pickets he uses the Bible a lot as well.
@ready2danceagain
@ready2danceagain 2 года назад
Thx for "spreading the word," exposing "the truth," and helping to "set people free" for REAL!!!
@nicosyiallouris1103
@nicosyiallouris1103 2 года назад
Yessss Expose Expose Expose Expose Expose Expose Expose Expose Expose this Satanic dishonest distractive organisation cult is Ruining Lives and families and damage young children's minds
@bensamadams
@bensamadams 2 года назад
Thank you Patrick for speaking about that part of your life, your very brave may God bless you for rest of your life 👏👏👏👏🙏
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 2 года назад
Justin its GREAT SEEING YOU AGAIN!!!!! I truly love everything you are doing 👏..
@exjwdiaries
@exjwdiaries 2 года назад
Thank you!! Sooooo much more on the way! I’m still just getting started 😂
@exjwdiaries
@exjwdiaries 2 года назад
Hey Mr. Lee! There’s an email Dropbox at the very end of each video (I might move it towards the beginning going forward). You can get in touch there. I don’t post the email directly in the comments to avoid attracting more spam than usual. Thank you.
@josevaldez3913
@josevaldez3913 2 года назад
Thanks Patrick, appreciate hearing your story. (:
@timbothegreat7767
@timbothegreat7767 2 года назад
Great interview - really enjoyed hearing Patrick's story - I can relate to a lot of what he has to say, especially the part about being left with no-one. Hope he's doing ok.
@4minuteman429
@4minuteman429 2 года назад
Tough yards brother. But now you know true freedom. How does a guy poor his heart out and someone gives it a thumbs down? There are some strange people in the world.
@Xerfing
@Xerfing 2 года назад
A future ex JW on his or her way out lol
@moniquedelaney7958
@moniquedelaney7958 Год назад
Strange and vicious and sadistic . .
@user-TheTruth
@user-TheTruth 2 года назад
Glad you’re back and really enjoyed Patrick’s story . Just so sad that he was trying to be honest and be repenting that he was thrown under the bus ! In hindsight it was the best thing that happened to him because it allowed him to wake up ! Looking forward to more from the both of you !
@symone3113
@symone3113 2 года назад
So let me get this straight. Exemplary Elder Lost his father Got married Decided to be brutally honest with wife and GB about his vices, And they disfellowshipped you… how loving of them to knock you down when you’re already in so much pain… Aren’t you glad to be free of this so called loving religion? Great interview Patrick I’m really proud of you.❤️
@pviau90
@pviau90 2 года назад
Thank you Gail. For as painful as this whole ordeal was, it ended up being a blessing in disguise. Grateful to be where I’m at today.
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation Год назад
Iron rod sheperding of Christ ..do they have the right to do this ? Is that after Armageddon or before ?😊 Who gives them that authority ? What is it supposed to accomplish ? Is there a bigger picture
@yogi19581
@yogi19581 2 года назад
Well done patrick very brave and honest 👏
@boblakatos7894
@boblakatos7894 2 года назад
Great interview, ex elder, ex sub circuit overseer, ex Gilead missionary class of 97 in 1994, spend 3 years in Honduras as a missionary. Out since 2005.
@jimbobaggans1564
@jimbobaggans1564 2 года назад
Geeze Bob! I would love to hear your story on what opened your eyes. I am sure it would be interesting.
@boblakatos7894
@boblakatos7894 2 года назад
@@jimbobaggans1564 sure I could do that for you
@yogi19581
@yogi19581 2 года назад
I've been watching ex jw videos for years Justin your the very best I love your style.
@robertaluba7368
@robertaluba7368 2 года назад
Nice addition to the growing group of former members.
@jaybyrd5556
@jaybyrd5556 Год назад
Wow thank you. I found the truth about the truth nine months into my disfellowshipping, I just told the elders what they wanted to hear and after one year I was reinstated. One of the elders wanted to study gods love book with me after my reinstatement. I told him I would prefer to study the shepherd the flock of god book specifically the section that has to do with the way I was treated in my judicial hearing. Obviously he told me “that is not a study book where did you get that”. I told him that my contributions helped not only the writing printing and distribution of this book I will read this book whether you study it with me or not. All of the elders blocked my number. Talk about a hard fade LOL. I’m sure you have a much happier life now. The problem I had with dating a sister, I felt like I could never be myself. You’re really brave for coming forward, That’s what I did I came forward on my own.
@eyesontheprize5
@eyesontheprize5 2 года назад
Really great interview. Thanks for sharing your story.
@scottwadley9634
@scottwadley9634 2 года назад
Nobody does "Phony" like the Jehovah's Witnesses...
@KristinaTurnerAquarius
@KristinaTurnerAquarius 2 года назад
And Mormons and Jesuit Freemasons, but they are all interconnected cults that claim to be Christianm
@MrChinchilla_hn
@MrChinchilla_hn Год назад
Of course, but in many called "sound doctrine churches" happen similar things, not for the teaching but for their missbehaving
@migdaliafuentes1618
@migdaliafuentes1618 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this interview!!! The experience and the recommendation that he gives at the end really helped me understand the struggles that sometimes arise in me. I’ve been in the religion for 35 years and woke up 3 years ago and there are moments that my core is shaken. And it’s not that I want to go back or anything (after not even zooming for months now) but what worries me is my family inside because of my fault! And I’m looking for ways of how I persuade them in, how to reverse it! Thank you again to you and To Patrick! Be safe!
@maybethistime1460
@maybethistime1460 2 года назад
This was a great interview. Very emotional and heartfelt.
@j.d.b.pennamesonofharraant3367
@j.d.b.pennamesonofharraant3367 2 года назад
👍 Raised by my Mom around Elders my whole life ... Grandpa was Elder Mom was a single mother ..... Now is married to a Elder uncles were elders ... I was disfellowshiped came back and wrote a disassociate letter in 2013 - 14 after 27 years in it .....
@rachelhansbro7802
@rachelhansbro7802 2 года назад
I haven’t got personal ties to JW, just pure curiosity as I follow no religion and haven’t ever. Great story, Onwards and Upwards for you. You are Free never forget it👍
@melicahdavid
@melicahdavid 2 года назад
Excellent video.
@steeldesignNW
@steeldesignNW 2 года назад
What a bunch of creeps the elders were. After everything you have done for the congregation. Its unbelievable that they treated you like this. Welcome to Freedom my brother.
@barbarajohnson9050
@barbarajohnson9050 2 года назад
Excellent video! Thank you for your story Patrick and telling it so well! Yes there is life after leaving this organization. The sky really is the limit; the freedom, the peace for starters.
@c.t8958
@c.t8958 2 года назад
Patrick is a great speaker! I really enjoyed this. I hope he can start his own channel! He has a lot to offer.
@taaadaaa5256
@taaadaaa5256 2 года назад
***Please Read *** Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz
@VG-rj8pn
@VG-rj8pn 2 года назад
Speak to me who went deep into seeking the truth and was visited by an Angel who changed me and took me into heaven.. i know more than anyone you will ever meet. Unless like me Jesus appears in your home and helps you do miracles.
@superdave1263
@superdave1263 2 года назад
Pioneered at 15, ministerial servant at 20 (first year of the program), elder at 22 years old, and regular pioneered till 1975. I can relate to everything you are saying, even bringing back some lost memories. Thanks
@patriciajohnson2
@patriciajohnson2 2 года назад
I so appreciate both of you! Excellent advice and great work on the video.
@jeanniejewel2272
@jeanniejewel2272 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing your story and for your activism exposing this cult.
@aryastark1914
@aryastark1914 2 года назад
Just found your channel. Thanks for the excellent interview! Looking forward to watching more videos and to your future collaborations with Patrick.
@jessicanerpio-cauldwell4987
@jessicanerpio-cauldwell4987 2 года назад
Very Truthful and Heart Warming Video to Bare it all (DDD)... As a Rank and File (JW's) You'd think it's the right thing to do (confess) that's what Jehovah would want you to do...but the Outcome (Disfellowship) you'd Wonder...What happened to Merciful, Kindness, Empathy even Love none of those displayed in a Judicial Commitee instead the Opposite (Judgemental)... Where was Jehovah when you needed him !?!... thats the "IRONY" WT ORG (Cult) and the GB's (8 Dude's in NY) is not the Truth its a Man-made Organisation that Breaks up Families (Shunning) ... I've learnt looking back...🤔
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation 2 года назад
You've got the answer and question there.the qualities you expressed a desire to see allied to justice..ARE NOT THERE. WHY ? IRON ROD. REV 19:15 There's nothing kind or soft..forgiving or yielding in IRON.is there.. Unravel that scripture.. You ll detect what's going on is that style of shepherding is in place NOW. Verse 17,18..? Now..as far as l can see.. So many negative consequences* follow don't they..Read rev 11:5 & 6.. Plagues *..that word covers it. Baptised at 30..Jesus was mature Not way before..* A whole world of trouble often ensues ..hormones etc.. ALMIGHTY GOD AUTHORISES..the two witnesses to do it..
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation 2 года назад
They likely fit the profile of the Man of lawlessness.. Jesus did too..from a perspective He was reckoned with the lawless ones .
@compositioncompilation
@compositioncompilation 2 года назад
What Russian president did after giving an award ..prophet ezek alluded to accumulated properties..and hooks..the other hooks may be shunned ones.defenceless victims..for whom he stepped in to defend..in unprotected settlements Ezek 38 :4 Ezek 38:22 may well be in play..Time will tell. If God joins in as he did with Moses..we will know. Stand still & See Jahs salvation !!
@katb945
@katb945 Год назад
Amazing young man honest and strong what you did took strength somehow I think you were called out, Thank you for your store I admire your honesty.
@stordagidag
@stordagidag Год назад
❤❤❤❤❤
@candymonroe3890
@candymonroe3890 2 года назад
Thank you Patrick for sharing your story. It is hard to put yourself out there. Thank you Hunter for your channel. I enjoy your approach - very matter of fact but relaxing. Keep up the good work.
@keithburton3713
@keithburton3713 7 месяцев назад
Justin thanks for another great interview😊
@dackjanielz
@dackjanielz Год назад
Thank you for sharing Patrick's encouraging story. It means a lot. I am so happy he was able to reconnect with his Mother.
@denishartley3828
@denishartley3828 Год назад
Excellent interview and advice for anyone being shunned or disfellowshipped. It's only once you wake up from this high control group, that you realise it's not built on love, but on fear, guilt and shame. No wonder there's such a high level of depression and mental health issues amongst Jehovah's Witnesses, because they are not living a true authentic life. Thank you Patrick for your heartfelt story, you are so much happier now!
@Xerfing
@Xerfing 2 года назад
I know what It feels out of the sudden my dad died too at 69 completely unexpected even though he also neglected his health and was sick but not to the point of passing. Your world just gets confusing by the minute. I was as well 29. Weird coincidences but I woke up at 24 after being a MS and seeing what was the real truth how elders are. They are not what the regular witness believe they are.
@Kendallrob
@Kendallrob 11 месяцев назад
Awesome interview!!!
@gnoter2
@gnoter2 2 года назад
Thank you, & bravo! Well done, meaningful!! PIMO in MD
@Caracaraorangeberry
@Caracaraorangeberry 2 года назад
i listened intently to your entire story. I have to be honest- it was not easy to contain my anger and contempt for Watchtower as i listened to how it took a young man reaching out for help and completely annihilated him in the name of God. There is no family that is not adversely effected by this cult. As for individual dubs, the only way they can remain in Watchtower is by allowing it to completely subsume their humanity. You might have noticed that it once you liberated yourself from Watchtower, you regained your humanity pretty quickly. Welcome back to reality. :-))) i’m sorry about your marriage.
@gadelmyguy
@gadelmyguy 2 года назад
Nice one watching from Madrid. Thanks so much for sharing
@symone3113
@symone3113 Год назад
What a sad story, my heart goes out to you. Sorry for the loss of your father. So first you lose your father, got DF, wife leaves and file for separation . Maybe she wasn’t there for the long haul, but whatever. I’m glad you found a counselor. I hope you’re finding your freedom liberating.. Glad you have solid unconditional relationship with your mom.❤️
@mjp8494
@mjp8494 2 года назад
Excellent interview
@dawnbehatin1224
@dawnbehatin1224 Год назад
Great interview!!!
@josevaldez3913
@josevaldez3913 2 года назад
Great video ex jwdiary. I like your low key approach. 🙂
@exjwwokeup1617
@exjwwokeup1617 2 года назад
This is an excellent video!
@vanbraxton8422
@vanbraxton8422 11 месяцев назад
Great video
@b1crusade384
@b1crusade384 2 года назад
@48:28 It is not even with a spirit of Judgment. It is about protecting Watchtower's interest - Name, money, investment in people etc.
@Xerfing
@Xerfing 2 года назад
Exactly!
@ibettch4122
@ibettch4122 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Patrick.
@user-kx8np1pu2k
@user-kx8np1pu2k 10 месяцев назад
Well done young man. I was D/fd at age 71 for daring to state I did not like the 8 goons of the GB. To question what do we have to offer anymore, 1914 Elastic band had snapped ,denial about 1975. Best day of my life.
@jackthomas6952
@jackthomas6952 Год назад
Amazing how when under any questioning or scrutiny “ The Truth” comes tumbling down like a house of cards. You would think “ The Truth” would be alot stronger than that.
@jillynyx3807
@jillynyx3807 2 года назад
THANK U PATRICK MUCHLY, VERY BRAVE TO BE SO HONEST AND BARE ALL, THAT CAN"T OF BEEN EASY AND YOUR WIFE WASN"T SUPPORTIVE, LIKE SHE HAS NEVER SINNED, GET A LIFE, WELL I SUPPOSE SHE FEELS SHE HAS ONE, WELL GOOD LUCK TO HER WITH THAT ONE !!!!! ALL THE VERY BEST, PAT, U CAN TELL U R A LOVELY BOY, HEAD AND CHIN UP THEY HAVE LOST ANOTHER GOOD ONE AND JAH SEE"S IT ALL JC FROM NEW ZEALAND
@froggyfreedom3979
@froggyfreedom3979 2 года назад
Wow. Your story is good , I was asking myself questions also after leaving and I prayed to god asking questions and Lloyd evans popped up on my RU-vid channel.
@Mrcleanmo
@Mrcleanmo 6 месяцев назад
Good interview
@danielcolla4530
@danielcolla4530 2 года назад
I agree: I ran to some people who claimed to have all the knowledge or truth. It was a complete disaster and embarassment.
@butterfly1111ish
@butterfly1111ish 2 года назад
I love 💕 your story I wish you the best👍💕
@massiahson6391
@massiahson6391 2 года назад
He is so correct
@observerlink4124
@observerlink4124 2 года назад
Wow! I thought this was a great personal account!
@freddyray6805
@freddyray6805 Год назад
When all that happens you feel like this is unique and its never happened to anyone before. You get a wake-up call that this happens everyday, everywhere and to every type of person. Your storey is nearly mirror image of mine and many others, especially appointed men.
@elainebraindrain3174
@elainebraindrain3174 2 года назад
Thank u🥰
@jimkidd6334
@jimkidd6334 Год назад
I really appreciate you talking about the reality of being an elder one of my 1st elder meetings I had been told each elder was equal not true I tried to contribute to the meeting could tell they weren't taking me seriously so afterwards I shared my thoughts privately with one of the elders so I asked why he answered bluntly " they don't respect you "
@summerseverson1267
@summerseverson1267 Год назад
Brilliant lads
@user-kx8np1pu2k
@user-kx8np1pu2k 10 месяцев назад
the sense of freedom is intense
@MrSaabsucks
@MrSaabsucks Год назад
Very good.
@studentofparadise9907
@studentofparadise9907 Год назад
This was great! Does Partrick have a channel?
@ayotfreda5536
@ayotfreda5536 10 месяцев назад
I always watch these videos from Uganda.
@hsaid3263
@hsaid3263 Год назад
Justin you should put captions in Spanish. I think you would reach a lot more people. ⚘️ Thank you for everything you do on this channel
@exjwdiaries
@exjwdiaries Год назад
Thank you! That is a great idea! I’ll do some research on how to do that in a clean way. Might be better to just have the videos dubbed in Spanish.
@hsaid3263
@hsaid3263 Год назад
@@exjwdiaries for sure
@andreazgraggen436
@andreazgraggen436 Месяц назад
Great 👍 job , well done , the ‘ real ‘ God …answerd your prayer 🙏👍😀 Take care 👏👍
@butterfly1111ish
@butterfly1111ish 2 года назад
Welcome 🙏 to Freedom
@johnkoa826
@johnkoa826 2 года назад
This is a crazy one. Me and the interviewee are the same age ish. Same profession. And our fathers are same age.
@joepublisher166
@joepublisher166 2 года назад
The view count clearly indicates that a number of JWs watch this - and that's a good thing!
@4CardsMan
@4CardsMan Год назад
When I was a teenager back in the 50's, there was a JW party for teens every few months where every JW kid in the city could go. There were about 50 of us in the city. It was a wonderful break.
@melleetheka
@melleetheka 2 года назад
Providence lead this man out of this evil cult
@summerseverson1267
@summerseverson1267 Год назад
Portland Oregon representing lol 🙋🏻‍♀️
@6India1509PEV
@6India1509PEV Год назад
More, more, more. You must do More! Every hour on the hour for and hour. Remember, Their could be an Asteroid somewhere out there with your name on it.
@solomonhabeshaqueensheba3312
@solomonhabeshaqueensheba3312 2 года назад
Thx for interview Hey did you know Rodger Stewart ?? He’s an amazing elder in the Tacoma area 👌🏻👌🏻 he has an electrical company I’m thinking about trying to wake him up ⬆️✅🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Thx for interview guys
@pviau90
@pviau90 2 года назад
Yes I do know him.
@ChrisDavis-ps8me
@ChrisDavis-ps8me 2 года назад
@@pviau90 Hello Patrick. 67 yo ex elder, and a successful fader. It’s 3:00 am here. Your honesty and real “truth” have touched, affirmed and fortified me. For me, Jesus was the solution. People such as you help so much. May God forever watch over and care for you. So happy to hear about your mom.
@andreazgraggen436
@andreazgraggen436 11 месяцев назад
👍😀
@elainebraindrain3174
@elainebraindrain3174 6 месяцев назад
Patrick you sound so happy as slave for the org
@butterfly1111ish
@butterfly1111ish 2 года назад
🎊🎉🙏celebrate 🎄🎉🎊🎉your freedom🎊🎉
@ajnooneslistening6134
@ajnooneslistening6134 Год назад
Those elders were assholes during your committee, they wanted to derail you, and sabotage your marriage! And if your wife truly loved you, she would have believed you. Circumstances such as these are why I resigned, and stepped away from being an elder, I literally seen elders deliberately trying to derail other elders. I had elders on the body I served also deliberately tried to derail me, for the first time I realized the hypocrisy and lies the elders were capable of being a part of. You did the best thing by leaving! You’re life will be much better!
@MrUNIVERSALSPORTS
@MrUNIVERSALSPORTS Год назад
They had it out for this guy ! He shouldn’t of gotten disfellowshipped.
@melleetheka
@melleetheka 2 года назад
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE BOOK THE UNSEEN REALM BY DR MICHAEL HEISER. He’s an ancient Near East biblical scholar and Semitic languages expert. This book is 100% peer reviewed material. Heiser typically mentions JW theology in his lectures because he’s well aware of the messed up ideas and doctrines WT produces that are so wrong and completely inaccurate. This book destroys WT theology and that isn’t even its objective.
@rochelle_johnston2703
@rochelle_johnston2703 7 месяцев назад
🤗🤗
@eloiseramsey9276
@eloiseramsey9276 2 года назад
The sin condition is real, this is why we need to put jesus first because it's his job to deal with our sinful nature until the time comes when he will completely deliver us from it. If we think about sinful things jesus said we have sinned. He was letting us know there is no escape we all are sinners. Well power will not stop us from sinning.
@irresistible743
@irresistible743 2 года назад
Thank you for a fascinating interview. There is one thing I would like some clarification on. The rules are in the JW world that divorce is only allowable if one or both of the parties concerned committed adultery. From the interview there is no indication that this happened all Patrick did was view pornography and was accused falsely of stalking witness sisters. So how come your wife is still seemingly in “good standing” in her congregation with no organisation elders saying to her “you can’t divorce Patrick because neither he nor you have committed adultery”. Just is not asking in a critical manner just out of curiosity.
@pviau90
@pviau90 Год назад
She had used a couple loopholes in order to get out of the marriage. For one, she technically didn’t “divorce” me but rather filed for “legal separation.” She was able to do this because she had built up a case against me claiming that I was emotionally abusive to her after she would provoke me to lose my temper on occasion. I was never physical towards her but she still claimed that she feared for her safety and that I “might eventually” become physically abusive. She knew how to work the system and play the victim. Meanwhile, I was never able to refute the claims that were made against me so this video was very cathartic and glad it has helped so many.
@denishartley3828
@denishartley3828 Год назад
I assume if no adultery, then she got her divorce on other grounds , but can't remarry, otherwise she would be disfellowshipped.
@lolo8288
@lolo8288 2 года назад
They were SHOCKED that he was viewing porn cause they were viewing it also!! 😂🤣
@darlenepatrick4619
@darlenepatrick4619 2 года назад
I was thinking the same. What hypocrites!
@mjp8494
@mjp8494 2 года назад
🤣
@disassociated1731
@disassociated1731 2 года назад
They are all trapped in the system! Assume that some elders in his judicial committee have watched porn or masturbate ( which is highly probable) what do you expect from them? breaking in tears and tell him “oh patrick, we relate to your sin, we did it also”?? or trying to minimise it, and raise the suspicion of the other elders? there is no way out for any of them. The problem is not their hypocrisy, and Patrick explained it very well, because he also accepted to be an elder even with his secret « sin », believing « in J s blessing ». The problem is the fundamental beliefs of christians hence of christian cults that sex is an undesirable useless aspect of a faithful spiritual man, and the complex rules system built upon. The recent problems in the exjw community shows that a lot of them are still trapped in a kind of religious system where people make sins, have to implore the pardon, perhaps need to be shamed or shunned, and go on judging others by a christian moral grid.
@marklondon9004
@marklondon9004 5 месяцев назад
My take away from this in not 'Don't confess to an Elder' but rather if admitting your Thought Crime can get you shunned by your community, you should leave that community.
@stasacab
@stasacab Год назад
Lifesaving pornography. I was a regular pioneer, reading the Bible over and over, and Joshua 10: 13 was it for me (If celestial bodies stop their course, no-one will survive. The fact that we exist is a proof that it did not happen). It was kind of strange, I lost my faith in the Bible long before I become an "apostate". I could not go out preaching to people what I could not believe. There were other things as well, such as handling a case of pedophilia. A pedo became a MS and his victim killed himself. I could not stay silent. 25 years out and I wonder how can anyone take Bible as a literal truth.
@charmainehutchinson7281
@charmainehutchinson7281 Год назад
I have never been a witness so I cannot understand your experience but I do pray for your guys - from the age of 17 I knew that jw was a false religion I have dedicated my time to understand the religion and it’s doctrines - I proud of whst Justin is doing - keep it up anf god bless
@rontesterosa1777
@rontesterosa1777 2 года назад
Baptized on July 4th?? That's "End of Independence Day!!!"
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