Interview in Treblinka 

He made it in the 70's right?

I’m an American who leaned Polish by working in Poland. What you say is correct. This farmer is telling it like it was. I totally trust what he is saying. He is also in other parts of the film. He is very candid.

@@Storytime2023x Yes agreed, Is there anywhere to watch the other interview in ENGLISH, where lanzmann talks to this farmers family before he moves to this location? Have scoured youtube andyad vadvashem looking for more treblinka villager interviews other than this and the fat polish farmer in the red shirt across from the train station.

@@Mike-jw4xh There is all kinds of outtake footage and you can even order it from the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Some is available on their website, and more can be ordered. I have not ordered any. There is also more footage on RU-vid, like the Treblinka train engineer, and one of the workers at the Sobibor station. Good luck.

@@Storytime2023x the farmer talks about being afraid of being on the field, is he talking about during the war with guards around or post-war because he thinks its haunted ?

This looks like a bit of a half-hearted ‘interview’ to me. Not well thought out. This gentleman/farmer was an actual eye witness to systematic mass murder. His story could have been told better and with more professionalism. Treblinka took some deep thinking about to even begin to get your head round what was done there. Almost in my lifetime was this depraved place in operation. I’m 78 year old grandmother and these truths shocked me and also the world in its scope and evil. Frank Stangl never paid for his crimes or Gustav Wagner or Ivan Marchenko. No punishment would ever be enough for them.

collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1005029 This contains interviews at and about the Treblinka railway station, amongst others

@@ewlke Thank you so much! I was able to read the entire interview transcript and learn some of the details of what went on near the train station and tracks, leading to the actual camp.

@@Mike-jw4xh you're welcome!

Henryk Gawkowski interview

Niemcy napadli na Polskę do dziś nie zaplacili

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tout à fait ecxact , enquêteur en dessous de tout

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They had an orchestra,,, so were they screaming like Justin Bieber fans at his concerts?

Zapewniam Ciebie że mieszkańcy którzy mieszkali obok tych obozów bali się. Wiedzieli dobrze co tam się dzieje. A po okolicy rozchodził się okropny smród palonych zwłok. Moja mama (Celina Borowa) mieszkała w tym czasie w Małkini i opowiadała że tak luksusowe wagony z Zachodniej Europy jakie przyjeżdżały na stacje kolejową w Małkini nigdy wcześniej, ani nigdy później nie widziała. Kiedyś z takiego wagonu wyszedł młody chłopiec aby się napić, a w tym czasie ruszył pociąg. Polscy kolejarze chcieli jego zatrzymać aby nie wsiadał ( wiedzieli co jego czeka) ale on wskoczył do jadących rodziców. Reszty możecie się domyślać. I assure you that the inhabitants who lived next to these camps were afraid. They knew what was going on there. There was a terrible stench of burning corpses everywhere. My mother(Celina Borowa) lived in Małkinia at that time and she said that she had never seen such luxury wagons from Western Europe that came to the railway station in Małkinia before and never after. Once a young boy came out of such a wagon to drink, and at that time the train started. Polish railway workers wanted to stop him from getting on (they knew what awaited him) but he jumped to his parents. You can guess the rest.

Paweł, thank you for your comment. Did your mother happen to have in her possession any photographs of these trains in her possession? They would be of great historical importance. Dziękuję za Twój komentarz. Czy twoja mama miała przypadkiem w posiadaniu jakieś zdjęcia tych pociągów? Miałyby one duże znaczenie historyczne.

@@scorpio-ik5fm Nie nie miała zdjęć tych pociagów ani innych pociągów przejeżdżających przez stację Małkinia. Pomiętaj że za sam fakt robienia jakichkolwiek zdjęć pociągów na stacji groziło "dołączenie" do transportu. To my dzisiaj robimy dużo zdjęć i filmów, ale w tamtym czasie było to niemożliwe. Dlatego C.Lanzmann przeprowadzał wywiady ze świadkami Holocaustu. Nie pytał się ich o zdjęcia ani nagrania dźwiekowe bo wiedział że ich nie ma. Pozostawała tylko ludzka pamięć. Poza tym pamiętaj że ochrona tych transporów była niezwykle brutalna, a sami Żydzi przeznaczeni na zagładę byli lepiej pilnowani niż złoto w Fort Knox. Nie wolno było się bez konieczność zbliżyć do pociągów. Ludzie się bali. Kiedyś - opowiadała - w jednym z wagonów ludzie głośno rozmawiali lub krzyczeli . Wachman podszedł i krzyknął : cisza ( ruhe) ale ludzie dalej głośno rozmawiali, więc on zdjął MP-40 i strzelał w kierunku wagonu. Podniósł się krzyk, hałas i płacz, ale po chwili faktycznie było... cicho. Moja mama urodziła się w 1924 roku. W czasie Holokaustu miała 18 lat. She had no pictures of these trains or other trains passing through Małkinia station. Remember that the mere fact of taking any pictures of the trains at the station was punishable by "joining" the transport. We are the ones who take a lot of photos and videos today, but at that time it was impossible. That is why C.Lanzmann interviewed Holocaust witnesses. He didn't ask them for photos or audio recordings because he knew they didn't exist. Only human memory remained. Besides, remember that the security of these transports was extremely brutal, and the Jews destined for extermination themselves were better guarded than the gold in Fort Knox. It was not allowed to approach the trains unnecessarily. People were afraid. Once, she said, people were talking or shouting loudly in one of the cars. Wachman came up and shouted: silence (ruhe) but people continued to talk loudly, so he took off his MP-40 and shot towards the car. There was screaming, noise and crying, but after a while it was actually... quiet. My mother was born in 1924. She was 18 at the time of the Holocaust.

Thank you Paweł, and thank you for sharing your mother's memory. You are right, memory is all we have. All the best! Dziękuję Pawle i dziękuję za podzielenie się pamięcią o Twojej Mamie. Masz rację, pamięć to wszystko, co mamy. Wszystkiego najlepszego!

Amen

The reason Lanzmann repeatedly addresses the tree line (and its absence in 1942) is to confirm that the farmer, who was probably about 15 years of age at the time, had a clear view of the camp. And since he was a teenager in 1942 and was clearly unnerved by what was happening, his visual memory is likely accurate.

@@scorpio-ik5fm Why does the documentary cut to orange/blank out anytime the farmer is supposed to point to where the gas chambers were, or describe or point out what and where he saw something? Sounds like all he saw was prisoners unloaded on a platform, the interviewer is using leading questions that the farmer doesn't affirm.

​@@sloth6765proof: trust me bro