Interview With Dr. Robert Lustig and Dr. Aseem Malhotra 

Lustig is my hero! Life goal to see him speak in person!

Two of the doctors i like most! No sugar and ultraprocessed food! Yes real food.

Two of my favorites physicians! It was Dr Lustig who got me started ten years ago on a Ketogenic diet, losing over 65 lbs of deadly fat!

So happy to see great content being uploaded by CrossFit! Two very admired physicians within the LCHF circle and outstanding discussion. Thanks!

Not surprised this video only has 5k views considering most popular videos on this channel regard proper form exercise and technique. Grateful this interview is available to watch. Great interview from two informative crusaders

What a brilliant discussion. Thank you so much. How I wish we had a lot more doctors like you two. Sadly I think a lot of doctors need to be better informed themselves before they can then help their patients to improve their diet and lifestyles and reduce their dependence on medication.

This Doctor Robert Lustig is outstanding! He is such an inspiration!. Love him.. I learned so much from him and he speaks with comprehensive research. He's right we need policy change on the ingredients on how the products are made.. cause the ingredients tend to look the same..(in some aspects) its always on the low side..

Thank you both for posting this conversation. I came from a low income community and been took my nutritionist my own hands after growing up seeing so many family members sick constantly and believing it is normal. The low income community deserves more attention around this conversation, as many doctors are quick to prescribe as opposed to prevent, especially to those communities. Food seems to lack focus in the doctors office and there is a lot of sensitivity surrounding the topic since sometimes it is the only occasion family can be together. My dream is to make conversations like this a topic of desire for my family as well as others like mine.

You guys are making too much sense...thanks!

I did it for a month, the month of March 2016. I gave up all sugar, starch, grains 100%. After two weeks I felt amazing and still practice keto today. 100lbs of excess fat melted away over the first year. It is still absent! As a four decade low fat high carb diet victim, failing countless diets and getting fatter, more depressed and desperate I was extremely reluctant to give up my comfort foods but, oh boy, was I glad I did. Like anyone who has stopped their addiction, whatever it is, I felt true freedom from the intolerable misery. Now I know it wasn't me that was the failure, it was the dietary guidelines I faithfully followed that failed me. I hope the news spreads far and wide. Obesity doesn't need to happen.

Oh my two of my 4 absolutely favorite doctors! Absolutely LOVE these two!

Thinking globally, acting locally. We added nutrition coaching to our list of services three years ago. We often say that you can not outperform a bad diet. If i have a client trying to decide between nutrition coaching or crossfit group classes, we always recommend nutrition first. So many parallels to our CrossFit Movement-First principle. When training clients (for CrossFit workouts) we teach the mechanics. Then, we practice until the client can consistently perform the mechanics. We do this before adding load or intensity. If a client's nutrition is off, what sense would it make to add "intensity" of a workout - without first fixing the nutrition. Thanks for sharing your insights, working hypotheses, and research.

Love hearing Rob discussing health. Lots of gems to pick up.

Respect to both Dr. Aseem Malhotra and Dr. Robert Lustig, thank you both for this educational video🙏🙏 Gentlemen keep on educating us please. I believe people all over the world are starting to wake up. It's definitely not about any diet. It's about lifestyle change.

A brilliant discussion between two passionate doctors!

More than two years ago I listened Dr. Aseem Malhotra and had a wake-up call with covid and obesity. That started my fitness journey. Now it is 2023 and I have not gotten covid yet.

I am so glad to be led to this brilliant discussion by these two doctors, who, before now, I knew nothing about. I'll be listening to both of them much more.

Very informative discussion! Thanks for sharing! As far as dietary habits are concerned, I believe these are one of the more difficult, if not THE most difficult changes to make for most people. Even minor changes are hard. I think, this is mostly, because people do not analyze the food they are eating. This is most true for the invisible components, like hidden sugars, fats, additives, etc. Most people have settled on a certain type of food items, mostly stemming from their family's habits, and those are carried over without much thinking. Even when there is goodwill to change, it is tedious to learn what to do and to stick with it. I can see around me, when friends ask for advice on how to change their diet for some healthier habits. They say they'll do it, but weeks later, nothing has really occurred, because life is hectic, because the stores they frequent don't have those, because they healthy foods may cost more, and many more reasons. Also, here in the USA, officials are trying very hard to make extreme obesity normal. Questioning the morbidity behind excess weight is like shaming somebody into a corner. And we all want to get a "like", don't we? I try to discuss with friends how cooking everything from scratch is the best way to eat: you know what you prepare, you can keep it as simple as you want, you can opt for zero sugar and salt, etc... but just as important is the preparation of food by hand: it involves doing and seeing, and our eyes and hands and all the other senses communicate just by reading the gestures that we are about to eat. This allows the stomach and the entire digestive system to get ready for the food it will receive. This is not irrelevant! Neither is good chewing: using our teeth to chew keeps the teeth strong and healthy, and it produces saliva which is important for the first digestive phase, taking place while we chew. Saliva already breaks down certain food stuffs, like starches, sugars (and I mean those that are naturally contained in veggies or fruit, not refined and added ones!). However, people tell me they don't have the time for that. In other words, they don't have the time for themselves and their loved ones to become and stay healthy! That is a very common and sad situation.

Drs. Lustig and Malhotra represent the highest ideals of the medical profession - dedicating their lives to improving the metabolic function of people around the world. If your message was more succinct, direct, and avoided conflicts of interest, they could reach even more people. Such a message might be ... adopt an "insulin-friendly lifestyle" by eating and drinking whole real natural foods and beverages, exercise regularly, and manage stress. The keys are keeping insulin levels low, getting complete nutrition, and allowing glucagon maximum time to repair cells and DNA. It's time people took responsibility for their own health.

Thank you gentlemen so very much. Keep shouting this for us.

So inspiring message! Said everything everyone needs to know! Knowledge is freedom! We need to change world’s policy about food industry

What an interesting conversation. I have known about Dr Aseem but not about Dr Robert , but will be searching for more videos and the book he mentions as I already have Dr Aseem books .

Great discussion, thank you. The 8 subcellular pathologies were so very interesting. I've written them down. One dose of injectable poison damaged my mitochondria, point #3 is one that I'm well acquainted with, and didn't know existed prior to the shot. Dr Ryan Cole has mentioned that mitochondrial dysfunction plays a role in the development of cancers. I'd love to hear a longer presentation by Dr Lustig on the eight pathologies. I've never heard anyone recognise or list them in a group before now. I love seeing champions of truth joining forces and supporting each other, and helping more people. I've been following Dr Lustig's work and presentations for a few years now, and he's greatly blessed me. Through his information and insights into the food and pharma industries, with reference to the tobacco industry, I quit sugar in 2016 to reduce inflammation. I'm pleased to see Dr Malhotra getting a wider audience too. His wealth of knowledge, and personality fit in seamlessly with our champions of truth in every area, not just health.🇭🇲

I cannot get enough of Dr Lustig. Doctors need to read his books. Medical schools need to overhaul.

The title you ended up with is much better. Metabolical is a terrific title. Shorter and more to the point than the working title you mentioned in this video. For those who have not read Metabolical yet, it is somewhat repetitive but it's very much worth reading there's a lot of extremely important information in the book.

9:14 : “There’s subcutaneous or the big butt fat depo, which is the only thing anyone seems to care about (these days)” 😂 love Dr. Lustig

Doctor Lustig is once in a generation physician. He is as brilliant as he is humane and is totally dedicated to saving people from disease and death.

Two brilliant (and my favourite) Doctors. It is worrying how much misinformation is out there - documentaries on Netflix with cardiologists saying sugar isn't an issue for diabetes... I trust these two implicitly and have adjusted my health in line with their recommendations and feel great!

Great minds united ~ yay thank you for sharing

Robert Lustig is the best

I started with Tim Nokes and R.Lustig. Now I am feeding my gut with red meat cooked, boiled, grilled and raw. Not baked. My liver is smiling and I am a friend of my microbiom.

These two doctors are fighting like hell for the health of the people of this planet. When are they going to be heard by the governments and industry?

Excellent video. Let’s hope the pandemic has shone a light on health & nutrition but governments need to get on board. The food industry needs challenging because the health crisis (COVID aside) is just getting worse & as the population ages healthcare systems around the world will be buckling under the pressure. Totally unsustainable.

Dr. Lustig - you look great - did you have a facelift? just from eating real food? Inspiring!

Obesity is not genetic. Family members are often all overweight because they are eating the same wrong foods!

I had a heart attack 55 year old woman. My only risk was high ldl and stress. My cardiologist told me low fat diet. I was on that low fat diet for 30 years. Obviously, it did not work.

Excess weight is a symptom, not every unhealthy person exhibits. It is not an illness or a cause.

Excellent. Thank you!

I love Dr Robb.

Two of my favourite doctors!! Imagine they bring in Thomas Seyfried into this discussion!!!

Metabolically unhealthy people also suffer from impaired brain function. Perhaps that explains America's accelerating political demise? I can't think of any other explanation.

Both are my favourite

Wonderful conversation Thank u

What are the biomarkers used in a CBC to detect fatty liver before? If we are to accept this as a "hepato-centric" idea where insulin resistance and diabetes are symptoms of fatty liver or root cause and not promoting fatty liver? AST/ALT enzymes what range do we use as clinician's? Surely the accepted range of "normal" is skewed for population. Can we with confidence anticipate the degree to which the liver is functioning at even a suboptimal value but is still conventionally veiwed as within normal limits? Thank you for your work.

It's great to educate but so much of the media spread BS it's a really tough job.

Great discussion! Love Dr Lustig! US, UK, and Brazil did worst in the pandemic, because of the 'you can't tell me what to do' brand of individual freedom obsession--which came not from our political philosophy but from the tobacco industry which needed a marketing tool in the fight against science.

How much longer do the doctors have to shout to be heard?

The medical industrial complex's failure to properly research and diagnose and treat diet and microbiome and sleep and vital nutritional deficiency issues (including those related to Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2 and Magnesium deficiencies as well as iatrogenic prescription medication usage) is a major reason why psychiatric iatrogenesis is a primary contributor to the third leading cause of death in the U.S. (which is iatrogenesis in general). If the U.S. spent just a fraction of the over $40 billion each year it spends just on iatrogenic psychiatric drugs alone, for properly researching the issues discussed in this and related RU-vid presentations we would probably, Lord willing, achieve an absolute revolution in medical efficacy improvement and iatrogenesis reduction. Thomas Steven Roth, MBA, MD Christian Minister for Biblical Medical Ethics, and therefore, Scientific and Religious Refugee from the Clinical Practice of Psychiatric Standards of Care

THANK YOU BOTH! #carnivorewisdom

See Dr. Barbara Corkey paper in Jan 2012 issue of diabetes journal.....hyperinsulinemia.....

Robert - I'm disappointed you have not seen through Malhotra.

This health battle is like trying to beat someone at a game where they make the rules to suit them.

at 34:32 etc... What you don't know (probably) is that in Scandinavia, especially in Finland, the Fins have a work-around for their alcohol laws: They can book coach rides for little money, to spend the weekend in Russia (St. Petersburg), which is reasonably near by, and so they get on the bus in Finland, get out at some hotel in Russia, drink themselves into oblivion with vodka and such, and come Sunday, they are being loaded drunk and hung over into their bus and shuttled back to Finland. That way, they can drink as much as they want, it is hardly more expensive than buying some at home, and that is how it's done. I don't think many folks know about this or even talk about it, but I have seen it myself when I was in St. Petersburg.

Thank GOD for individual freedoms !

great minds

What we’ve done to keep people eating sugar is…we’ve gotten them totally addicted to carbs that they “ just can’t do without

I don't remember having been notified

In the the UK nearly everything has a food label. Even a real fresh steak is packaged & has a label. I have not seen naked meat for years.

Nuremburg 2 now!!!

I agree that the processed food industry needs a huge overhaul but of course, profit is the driver! I was somewhat concerned that Robert and Aseem didn't put the covid injection as the issue of people's illnesses! The stuff is poison - so it follows that poor nutrition would be a catalyst for a struggling system to cope with more poison!

Any studies /data related to direct effects of coconut oil on CV health?

You don’t think fiber might cause leaky gut?

The food line was, I believe, “ Better for you “ not “ Good for you”

Dr Rupy ..The Doctors Kitchen is trying to educate us..on his own.

So can metabolic health change quickly because if you cut sugar you can remove the fat from your live quite quickly? Does anyone know?

Did you say Diane beats me ?

...except that Boris was never ill with Covid - neither was he ever in hospital.

Who needs another book on food

GHO foods in nearly every processed foods

Yall need to do a good-ass documentary to reach the masses. Look at the success of the dysfunctional vegetarian and vegan diets, with all those whacky mockumentaries. Not 360p quality zoom calls..

Dr. Lustig should probably amend his comment regarding FL and TX and the states that didn't bow to the "science" since those were the states that had the best outcomes.

Tomatoes have a label.

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I'm skinny 💖🚲

Yes but salt and high fat can not be forgotten, just as evil. The food manufactures should be sued like cigarette companies. Most people don't care though they would prefer the pleasure of food and just take meds.

It's astonishing, so much valuable advice about the virus that has never been isolated or proven to exist

I wish you diet people would stick to a message for 5 minutes. Lustig just got through saying (~16:05) he reversed metabolic dysfunction in those kids by replacing sugar (fructose especially) with even processed carbs... still "crap" food. Then dude turns around, agrees, but then says, yeah, I help people by telling them first to remove processed foods because they go hand in hand with sugar. Get your shit together! Sugar is not an ingredient in Kraft Mac & Cheese from the infamous blue box. "0g added sugar." According to Lustig's science, I can eat that and be doing pretty well for my health... probably won't lose weight but it shouldn't be liver related and therefore mostly okay. Conversations like this one are part of why it's so hard to follow anyone's diet advice. You ultimately walk away thinking the only sure way to lose weight AND be healthy is eating broccoli and water forever... and most people would just rather be unhealthy than face that kind of food reality. Also, when is someone going to start producing a line of foods, maybe even highly processed, that are sweetened with various non-caloric sugar substitutes BUT ALSO GLUCOSE. I know it isn't as sweet as sucrose/fructose, but it is fructose free... Lustig's real enemy. I've made cookies with corn sugar (glucose, a.k.a. dextrose) and they are completely delicious. I think many people could maintain a diet with glucose replacing fructose because most people don't really miss the super-sweet things like cake when they are dieting... it's the everyday 'sweet' things like ketchup and chocolate.

Working upstream! If only we could. You are both talking the language I,ve used for 50yrs. At last, doctors cottoning onto nutrition. Don,t diss every dietitian. We never had the ‘clout ‘ nor the time nor the research funding - indeed hardly any funding. Folk listen to doctors! Keep giving these two bigger platforms to spread the word. Just a little critique : poor communication: to use ‘6 teaspoons sugar’. Most ‘added sugar ‘ in invisible. Don,t even use a teaspoon. I,d not use that jar of sucrose. Suggest use example of a fruit yogurt - has added sugar, but that figure combined in total sugars on the food label, as included with the lactose. Multiple food choices of invisible added sugars, so why even talk of those teaspoons that can be misinterpreted. Unless you show those soft drinks next to those spoons of sugar ( co-opt a dietitian ) Bread is not your best choice to use as example of labelling! Bread is a basic. Don,t start with that. Or have a go at the Chorleywood process and all that ensues in that factory process - but it,s not such a simple message! Do ask your dietitian colleagues on board with you.

No money in health , simple as that!!!

If obesity is genetic there's been a massive explosion all of a sudden in the past fifty years.😅✨✨🤣💨💨

Lustig spoiled his otherwise excellent message toward the end when he betrayed his political bias. Personal liberty is important and Texas' & Florida's covid results were superior to that of the Blue States. I agree with Lustig's (carrot & stick) regulatory approach on sugar and processed foods.

Interesting that the first two CEOs were women…

Rob needs a hair cut lol

Really! "Not eating enough fruit and vegetables" No wonder we can't get anywhere if your professing to eat genetically modified fruit that's main propose is to fatten human up for winter and is basically a candy bar. Sorry I stopped watching right there!!!!!

Carnivore is so much easier. And much more sustainable. The term "processed food" is undefined. Vegetables are nutrient deficient and way too hard to buy and prepare.

It’s 2023 and I’m so disappointed Dr. Aseem Malhotra has become an anti-vaxxer.

The Covid diatribe left me wondering where the apology video from both of you is hiding. I hope that, in hindsight, you've reconsidered how much the public should trust the medical industrial complex. I'll take Personal Responsibility over the dictates of medical & government officials any day. Indeed, you both owe the public a huge apology. Shame on you both.

💚🏜️ excellent until the end 😔 you should not blame the covid numbers on individual liberty and autonomy. God help us if we all actually did what the government wants.