INTJ and ESFP - Forward Scout and Explorer 

Yeah, as an INTJ I really connect with the appeal of finding lost civilisations and uncovering their secrets. But similar to what you said it's not about completely understanding every detail about them but more about discovering and understanding the "main" thing, the most important thing. It's possibly inferior Se in its transcendent, longing aspect, which let us feel this way, because we want to see the real thing like it was, we want to physically see the lost civilisation, more than understanding it. That's why the process of the discovery itself is so important: Because it is the recovery of a lost Se world. And what you described as "wanting to do something with it" could just be the Te way of understanding it. I often understand things better when I apply them and see what properties are emerging out of the interaction with other things than just thinking logically about it.

Your description of the INTJ forward scout matches what Michael Pierce said of them being a sort of traveling alchemist doing their research until they move onto the next town. A kind of packing only the essentials to move as lightly as possible to discover what's out there.

The need to DO SOMETHING with our discoveries is such an important shared quality. As usual, Chris, you have a much better grasp on ESFPs than just about anywhere else here on RU-vid. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I was about to comment on open world video games right when you mentioned Valheim. I am ALL about not optimizing, but instead exploring for more things to see and do. I related so much to your experience and style.

Agreed, In OPS I’m an ESFP and my intuition is double activated. I’ve always connected with INTJs like it felt like we are watching the same stuff, but otherwise are so different. Our lives don’t look similar in day to day, nor do our personalities but we seem to have the same map of life if that makes sense and I think it’s untapped amazing synergy that probably comes from any of the same function stacks interacting. ENTJs feel familiar too, like, I see what you guys are doing for sure.

Would you be willing to do a video on how the functions outside a type's function stack manifest? For example, what is an INTJ's relationship with Ti?

I really appreciate how well you explain things. You really help me understand myself as an INTJ.

My mom is ESFP and we went into business together. Our combo of similarities and differences in approach causes a lot of friction, tbh. We do both like exploring, but I need to see what is happening in the future and where we can take things, and she cares about the now and experimenting with whatever captures her in the moment. I get stressed without a plan/strategy and she feels boxed in and anxious when she must adhere to a strategy. I haven’t really figured out how to work together well, honestly. Lots of arguments and frustration, lol.

My brother is an ESFP, yeah definitely a pick a direction and go kind of guy! :) Thanks!

I see the ESFP's approach as a dialogue, taking action facing the world's responses, discovering things they want where only reality can lead to.

I’m an ESFP!!! I got a crush on an INTJ also Ive attracted A LOT of INTJs in recent months. Before I found out his type we seemed like complete opposites but our personalities still mixed really well. We’re both high Te users and I have noticed when he uses Fi and Se

Intj. Describes how I view project mgt. I enjoy the process but do not want to do maintenance when the project is done. I want to hand it over and move on to a new project.

As an INTJ that was raised in a place with a lot of SE related experiences and traditions I really identify with that. I do like the security of planning and staying in my comfort zone but I also need to be oriented to a goal, and I like trying new things out even tho I’m normally hesitant at first.

Interesting insights (ESFP married to INTJ here).

You might like Horizon: Zero Dawn. It's an open-world videogame that akes place in a very post-apocalyptic (like a million years after the apocalypse) Earth, where civilization has regressed to a Medieval-ish era, and knowledge of the world as we know it has been lost to the sands of time. It's a very intriguing premise. And the game overall is very impressive -- especially the storyline.

im an infj 4:17 and bro you dont miss i know this might not be appropriate to bring up on an INTJ/ESFP video but i want to hear more about your infj and istp Ni + Ti “double depth” thing from an outsider’s perspective because that would be really valuable. i feel like i’m the only one who talks about these function pairs in depth (which makes me fear bias but i’m the only one i know who is willing to go this in-depth) and you’re the guy who never misses and is willing to go there too. so i just wanna hear your take on them to see how we’re perceived or understood from the outside. it sort of brought to mind when someone had asked me why “INFJs are so weird with feeling”, to which i answered, Ni and Ti are actually quite similar, apart from one being perception and the other being judging. theyre simultaneously vague and general. but the concept of their focus feels pinpointed, clear and sort of “detached” from themself despite them being subjective functions. although Si is more personal, Ni perceives as though its perceptions have significance and truth beyond themselves (since it is extrapolated from Se data), and such is the same with Ti and its judgements. (to see what i mean for Ni, read this post and the response weirdfella.tumblr.com/post/116934613106/hi-i-dont-know-if-youve-done-this-already-but. for Ti, “Fe/Ti ontology cares less about the empirical certainties of objects and more about the theoretical commonalities between them. The mess of facts and people in reality are manifestations of ideal objects and cleaner principles in the mind. The subject under this mode of cognition sees other individuals as extensions of the self and how all human beings are manifestations of the same ideal object. Because Fe/Ti types see other human beings as extensions of themselves in hopes of identifying or realizing cleaner but more idealistic principles for dictating order, they are typically less direct than the Te type in asserting their will on their environments, but are also less inclined than the Fi type to withdraw their judgements in the name of tolerance, more consistently maintaining that whatever logic applies to them must also apply to others.”) in contrast, Si and Fi are very self-contained and dont extend themselves into places that arent personally relevant, they are aware of the limitations of their scope and openly admit it because of how rich with personal significance to the user they stand on their own. Ni and Ti, by comparison, are Very barren and barebones. they are basically skeletal structures. because of the lack of personal attachment to them, we make up for it by being able to apply it beyond ourselves...but this sort of confidence precludes the want to use Fe, which is where our confidence can be stopped short by factors outside of our in-depth understanding. you can see this by comparing ISFJs and INFJs. although they have the same aux and tert functions INFJs seem more “detached” from Fe than ISFJs because of Ni’s pairing Ti to create comprehensive holistic principles of reality. ISFJ relies on Fe as their first objective function that applies outside themselves, but to the INFJ, Ni and Ti already seem like they exist outside of themself. this can lead to blind overconfidence without reality checks from Fe and especially Se. Ni and Ti are really general, but are Specific ABOUT that “generality”. the concepts of “tropes” and “genres” are both something that encapsulates the combination of Ni+Ti cognition extremely well. categorizing and giving definition to longstanding patterns and narratives. look at carl jung and his focus on Archetypes. plato’s Theory of Forms. how so many INFJs are interested in typology for these exact reasons. it makes Fe and Feelings in general seem like something that‘s just a distraction from perceiving and defining the natural rhythms that the universe falls back on. (and i don’t mean this in a pretentious way.) you can also see this with the ISTP where, as an IxxP, they contextualize and embody their principles. michael pierce writes, “their goal is to be utterly dauntless, that they obtain through self-discipline, that is, the embodiment of a Truth - the contextualization of the universal. It is not sufficient to formulate a law (Ti), one must enact it (Se), but one must also have rules for action, in accord with nature. Knowing the rules of chess is not enough to win at chess - it is a matter of intuiting the best application of the universal principle within a given context, living out of an archetype.” INFJ excavates, comprehends, and communicates the knowledge of those archetypes. ISTP defines uncovers those archetypes by truly living out the logical principles. INFJ is the more “disembodied” of the two, but will not object to flaws in their logic being found through that embodiment. we can see this with plato and diogenes- plato, INFJ: man can be defined as a featherless biped. diogenes, ISTP: (plucks the feathers off a chicken, presenting it to plato’s academy) behold, a man! plato, INFJ: ..man can be defined as a *broad-nailed*, featherless biped.

This story about game play is so accurate. 🔥

I am an intj and have played valheim with an esfp! This is spot on!!

you absolutely nail it regarding the interest in discovery vs. application. Excellently put. INTJ Female.

ALSO re: 5:26 as an infj whose favorite exploration game is botw i’m so invested in learning the internal mechanics of the game like all these sorts of stuff ru-vid.com/group/PLAjULYyNSE9aa7aQW31IupW685MO-ZBHc like they might help me consider how i think about the game itself and appreciate it at a deeper level rather than make anything functional or useful. i mean yes these are good to know but they dont radically change how i *play* the game all that much, but moreso how i think about it

I mostly agree but think you might be overlooking some of the Ni Fi intensity while comparing Ni Te and Ni Ti.

I think this is a pretty good description; there are too many stories I could tell for me to fit into one comment -- great video!⚜️

8:34 EXACTLY. That’s how I play. Great observation

11:10 the Dwemer FASCINATE me in the elder scrolls

I followed the 🌈 today and it was so elusive

8:05 hahahaha TRUE 😂

Yeah, I really don't know why people associate INTJs and ENTJs. Like, have a conversation with both at length, and the differences are very apparent. Never wanted to do anything just for the sake of it, or efficiency for its own sake. I want to accomplish things as quickly as possible, and really nothing more. ENTJs will often think they're the same until you tell them that, "I want to stop here, and I do things this way because I want to," is a valid enough reason. They're more than happy to cast emotions, freedoms, and (what I consider objective)truth aside in the name of pointless efficiency 9/10. Not out of malice but from not even considering people won't agree with them.

They dont get along. their values are totally different. and ESFP gets on INTJ's nerves.

I wish I was a Ti user

What happened to your neck 👀

ESFP cannot think profoundly, the get around in circles.