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INTJ vs INTP - are you SURE you know what you are??
INTJs and INTPs can be difficult to tell the difference between. In fact, I just met 3 INTPs who used to think they were INTJs! These are my impressions of the two types in broad strokes. (Think caricatures). Sometimes the easiest way to highlight the difference is to use caricatures, and then look at which caricature you're closer to.
0:00 The Basics
1:47 How I'll be Analyzing them
2:56 Religion
6:34 Argumentative Style
9:31 Relationship with knowledge
12:14 Communication Style
14:45 Books
16:38 Random
Edit from 2 years after this video was posted for Ti users ;)
Any time I say a behavioral example of how a type shows up like "I tend to notice a lot of ISTJs with fitbits" this is to ground the theoretical concept for viewers who have repeatedly asked me to give behavioral examples and to make content less abstract and confusing. However, any time I stray from motives and transfer to behavior, it will lose universal application. Any time I give an example like this it is not an absolute, it is not a rule, that behavior is not exclusive to that type, that behavior is not the exclusive manifestation of a type's motives, not everyone or even most of the type might do that thing; but it is simply a one-time example of how the motivations that ISTJs share could manifest - not how they must manifest.
In addition, different motivations aside from Si-Te motivations could also prompt someone to get a fitbit, so this behavior alone cannot be used to type someone. In my day to day life, I do not see people with a fitbit and therefore declare them an ISTJ. Any example I give did not come from inductive reasoning which gets applied universally like "I saw 3 ISTJs who wear fitbits therefore all ISTJs have fitbits." In addition these examples can be backed up deductively with Carl Jung's and Van Der Hoop's writing like "Si has finely attuned sense organs"; "Te likes outcomes and metrics" "therefore an example could be, but is not limited to, ISTJs wearing fitbits, especially when used to measure sense organs."
I have been working on Ti and thus curbing misunderstandings on this front, but in case I say something contrary to this belief, it was due to sloppy Te langauge (or it was a non-serious joke) and not because I believe differently. This series in particular has a lot of sloppy language so this message is getting copy and pasted to all these videos lol.
Love ya babe xx
Alexis Kingsley
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@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 8 месяцев назад
This video was posted 2 years ago at the time of writing this comment. The description box has a useful note that will help you know how to engage with this video and my communication style at the time. Please take a look :)
@susanam.826
@susanam.826 3 года назад
I'm an INTJ, my husband is an INTP. I approve of this video.
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
Thanks Susana!! I was so nervous about getting the INTPs wrong haha
@awilywolf
@awilywolf 3 года назад
Does that work well, being quite similar?
@youssefshahir8624
@youssefshahir8624 3 года назад
Is it a good relationship ??
@sah5361
@sah5361 3 года назад
two introverts wow
@cross-eyedmary6619
@cross-eyedmary6619 2 года назад
I am an INTP and I just found out that my closest friend is an INTJ. She's the only person I will get on the phone for.
@MrTrashcan1
@MrTrashcan1 2 года назад
I have an advantage here. I'm 65 and just began analyzing my personality. So I can look back at my life and recognize the patterns. I always thought there was something wrong with me. Now I realize that's what it's like to have lived life as an INTP. Dealing with life's problems isn't any easier now, but I feel better knowing why I think and act the way I do.
@Highencast
@Highencast 2 года назад
Just now realizing I am an INTP in my 20s. Can't imagine seeing all this at 65. Us younger generations are really blessed with the internet.
@hfortenberry
@hfortenberry Год назад
@@Highencast Yes, you really are. 54-year old INTJ here and I can only dream how I would have thrived if I’d had the internet as a young person. Sigh… 💔 It truly hurts. I feel I really lost something in missing that opportunity growing up to be honest. But i try to not lament too much and just make the most of it now. 😉👍🏼
@ARandomDonut
@ARandomDonut Год назад
MBTI is really good for explaining past actions, (you and I have probably both seen this) but should never be used as an excuse for present behavior. Maybe an explanation, but not an excuse.
@toddjacksonpoetry
@toddjacksonpoetry 3 месяца назад
INTP explains much better INTJ why, when I discovered my poetry had hit upon a moment that required regular meter and rhyme - formal poetry - I focused on it so totally that I stopped paying to the rent and went homeless for awhile. But also published a bunch of villanelles and double sonnets I assumed I was INTJ+autistism spectrum. Now I get it that I'm INTP.
@MrTrashcan1
@MrTrashcan1 2 месяца назад
@@toddjacksonpoetry No. Things like poetry--original creations--that which comes from within--that's all Ni. Doesn't matter about the formal meter and rhyme. And that you would top paying the rent and go homeless--Se. Here is where people lack understanding of Si, which, among other things, is the focus on one's personal physical domain. INTP would never become homeless--risk, lack of comfort, safety, security--that's all Si. You are an INTJ. Also "disorders" like autism--that's Ni and Fi with volume turned way up.
@yurizafurizaki5574
@yurizafurizaki5574 3 года назад
About fiction books. INTP (and ENTP), don't always process their emotions, but the healthy INTP and ENTP will find books/drama, music, etc as a way to process those emotions. Secretly. INTP in Fe grip might eveñ think they're INFP due to that.
@marketamrazova
@marketamrazova 11 месяцев назад
You just perfectly described my whole life experience. I'm an INTP, who loves emotional music and movies, so I mistyped myself as an INFP in the past, because I thought that the way I enjoy these things just doesn't align with the "detached, cold, emotionless" (as it's sometimes described) personality of an INTP.
@hexane8
@hexane8 4 месяца назад
Read that as Iron Grip
@petersmall1574
@petersmall1574 2 года назад
Based on my experiences, as an INTP, and on my understanding of typology, I want to offer a hypothesis of sorts as to why at least some INTPs may believe themselves to be INTJs. Broadly speaking, I believe INTPs may experience a kind of evolutionary pressure to adapt themselves to an INTJ mode of being, both in school and the workplace. INTJs, I would argue, possess traits that make them more naturally able than are INTPs to make use of and produce results with their intellectual abilities that more closely conform with the expectations of academia and the business world. INTPs, on the other hand, often possess a kind of chameleon ability to blend in when needed. So, an INTP can learn to adapt her Ti/Ne explorative thinking engine into a kind of facsimile of an INTJ's results-oriented, focused, Te to-the-point expressiveness. Because this process of adaptation can begin in adolescence, perhaps in response to more than one of those "Fails to work up to her abilities" comments on her report card, and in an Fe inferior attempt to allay parental concerns, the INTP individual may be only half aware that she is constricting her still developing NE abilities and energy in awkward directions and is perhaps trying to impose a limit on the depth of Ti exploration, just in order to get her papers done on time and make everyone happy.
@she_surrendered
@she_surrendered 2 года назад
Very true! If we don’t activate certain aspects of INTJ, we fail at life. Lol. All this wisdom, knowledge and potential should be actualized or else it’s futile.
@rafaelgmota
@rafaelgmota 2 года назад
Yes. Very much on point, from my perspective.
@cyrus4496
@cyrus4496 2 года назад
They would shift into an ENTJ mindset actually because that is the INTP unconscious
@swordfish7165
@swordfish7165 2 года назад
I only have a fairly superficial knowledge of Myers-Brigg, but I've certainly been getting mixed messages over the years as to whether I'm INTP or INTJ ... my older brother (an INTJ ... & proud of it) was something of an expert in both MBTI & enneagram and was pretty sure I was/am INTP ... But every time I take the test it's INTJ ... I suspect I'm strongly INT but mildly J or P ... test percentages certainly seem to indicate that (I'm guessing a mild P with a few J tendencies).
@user-js5tk2xz6v
@user-js5tk2xz6v 2 года назад
That's very good theory I was thinking similar way.
@bouclechocolat
@bouclechocolat 3 года назад
Appreciate the dive into negative traits! I'm an INTJ, I thought the religion discussion was interesting, especially given the stereotype of INTJs being atheist. (I do like the culty stuff myself.) Bookwise, I like horror in fiction and a mix of math and cognitive science in nonfiction.
@Gleichtritt
@Gleichtritt Год назад
I too am an INTJ and the atheist stereotype is probably coming from the general perception of religion being dumb. I am religous in the general understanding of that word, but only because I dived deep into both science and religion for about 25 years. So it really makes sense to me and I have a pretty precise answer for every question you could imagine which contradicts the popular idea of religion being unreasonable or based on feelings and beliefs only. The reason for all this however, is probably very INTJ. Because we like planing and thinking ahead and the most thinking ahead, is thinking about death and what, if anything, comes after - automatically leading to what came before and so on.
@teac117
@teac117 11 месяцев назад
I get the feeling that INTJs in religion veer into religious epistemology. It's mostly theory building and system building. It often ends up being anti-authoritarian, while at the same time re-establishing another one another under 'their' moral code. If that doesn't scream INTJ, I don't know what does.
@roisingrant
@roisingrant Год назад
I think you mean INTJs are far more passionate and self-involved in our logical approach, because we tend to specialise. Whereas an INTP, with such surface-level comprehension of many topics, is less likely to be attached to the topic of argument. Very insightful and just reaffirms my self-assessment as an INTJ. Great work.
@jonimaki-heikkila8217
@jonimaki-heikkila8217 Год назад
I was looking for this comment about intjs
@xpozen8994
@xpozen8994 Год назад
Surface level knowledge does not go too far in the information age. A quick look on any search engine would give you the answer.
@raghavrathi884
@raghavrathi884 4 месяца назад
Ahhh... But you miss a critical point. This 'superficial' comprehension (I would argue it's more than comprehension) can be a superpower when true creativity is needed, and needed fast. I think an INTJ and INTP duo can cure cancer😂
@fanistassopoulos4812
@fanistassopoulos4812 3 года назад
Ooh... INTJ vs INTP the eternal debate. The first online tests i took showed i am an INTP and i didn't question the results because i identified with the introversion, the rationality and the uneasiness in social interactions. After i researched cognitive functions, i started to think that i might fit more with the INTJ way of processing information and decision making. -Religion: I am not a religious person but i find allot of meaning and wisdom in all kinds of religious philosophies. I view them as a kind of mythology that provides us with accumulated knowledge in the form of archetypes. Same goes with mysticism and occult stuff. -Arguing: I have very strong opinions on things i have researched extensively and i don't mind expressing them. I am aware i might hurt someone's feelings so i'm usually very careful to make it clear that it's not personal. I stay rational when arguing online as well as in person. -Knowledge: Knowledge is power only when its applied... enough said. In school i was a top student in classes i cared about and a very mediocre one in the ones i didn't. -Communication: I like to get to the point, period. -Books: I prefer books that have information or narrate stories relative to the topics i am interested in. I prefer sci-fi and fantasy movies/series for entertainment though. -Music: I like music that carries some kind of meaning ether in the lyrics or in the feelings it creates. So what do you think? Am i an INTP or an INTJ?
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
Based on the bullet points alone I say INTJ 😂
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
But honestly those responses seem more in-line with INTJ. One thing is that INTPs have Se-polr so they seem awkward in their body, whereas INTJs have Fe-polr so they seem awkward with social conventions etc.
@ojgfhuebsrnvn2781
@ojgfhuebsrnvn2781 3 года назад
I am INTP. Because of the thing mentioned in the video i can't actually finish that test and i never get good results. In half of the question i see double meaning and answer neutral answer. For example question "do you like to plan things?" Does it mean if i LIKE to plan or if i actually plan. And even if i plan, does it mean do i follow this plan or just plan in a hope i will follow it but never actually do? I don't even get INT in the test but after researching every introverted personality one by one i don't see an alternative. I see you are like me, not able to write short messages online =) Religion: I am atheist and don't deal with any kind of superstition. I am so materialistic that when people say that someone has an aura in not religion sense i still don't understand what they mean (i do realize they are talking about impression this person gives them, but i don't understand in what way) Arguing: I am also strong on opinions but if someone provides a good evidence i am not able to continue carrying my opinion or if i do, i change my mind later. Once i called to some guy and told "do you remember we discussed **** 3 years ago in my room? It was bugging me and i am just here to say that you were right" Unfortunately he didn't remember and laughed at this. Knowledge: Knowledge is power and it is self-explanatory. It brings satisfaction when you become smarter. Most important thing in life is "to be alive" and "to be happy" all other things are secondary. If getting knowledge brings happiness it doesn't matter if it is applied. Books: Only science books, For all the others we have movies and comics. Music: though i wrote about music in my other comment, can't REALLY tell much because i have only about 10 songs in my playlist that i listen for more than 5 years already.
@sylviaowega3839
@sylviaowega3839 3 года назад
Yes I’m that INTP that often gets typed as an INTJ.
@mariaschrock7767
@mariaschrock7767 3 года назад
You are whatever I am.I typed as INTJ.
@Alexandra-vl1us
@Alexandra-vl1us 3 года назад
I relate to everything you said about INTJ, except for the music and books part. To be honest, it's way too subjective to generalize types based on what they read or listen to. I know you pointed out these are caricatures, but I also know there are people who will take them at face value, so I have to clarify this. In all, I tend to like philosophy, horror, and other useless (in comparison to the money-making and career-related) genres because I like them and I'm passionate about philosophy and horror. Not everything in my life is goal-oriented, I have useless passions and interests just like everybody else. Most INTJs aren't the caricature stuck-up boring hustling 100% efficient robots whose interests are solely based on work. Personality types aren't blueprints, just a rough sketch that one can use to learn about themselves, weaknesses, and strengths and become better.
@Gleichtritt
@Gleichtritt Год назад
Not wrong, but you zoomed in too much on that point. You have to judge the video as a whole and see every point as it is, just a tendency. After all, the Letters in your type always come with a percentage and one INTJ can have 51% thinking and another can have 89%, same Type, but different. That's why people often combine the MBTI with eneagramm (or however it's written) to get a more distinct result.
@CuriousCattery
@CuriousCattery 7 месяцев назад
Philosophy and horror are far from useless. In regards to philosophy, it would be useless to live a life with a lack of understanding and moral guidance, it's the why of doing things in a particular way. Horror can be useful as a cathartic practice and make normal life seem a lot more manageable. Totally agree on the robot caricature, but I also think everything is useful. If you look into it, you might not be achieving externally visible goals, but there is still value to be gained in the action.
@nidhitambi8539
@nidhitambi8539 3 месяца назад
for a moment there, i went like.. here we go again, i have no idea if I'm truly just deluded about being an INTJ that everyone speaks so highly of. all because i fucking love fiction. i read high fantasy, mythological fiction, epic fantasy and even sci fi. like I'd read something useful if i truly felt it was important. but if I'm just trying to blow off steam (which i do need to very often) i would do more useless shit than most people. because I'm efficient enough that after getting everything done, i still have a lot of time left to waste. am I deluded about being an INTJ?
@Happy-hippy
@Happy-hippy 2 года назад
I am an INTJ. About 4 years ago I took the MBTI quiz and got INTP, I recently took it again and got a different type. INTJ! I got so worried about me not knowing what type I really was so I took the MBTI quiz 5 or more times and got a different types every time! This video helped me come to the conclusion that I am an INTJ. Thanks so much!
@joshuapearson9950
@joshuapearson9950 2 года назад
I’m an INTP and a Pentecostal minister 😂🤷🏻‍♂️. I do think deeply about all the details and focus my ministry on apologetics, teaching Bible Studies and practically applying Scripture. I love to follow the Holy Spirit and preach too- but that spiritual experience is unique. I think through my preparation process and like to make sure I’m being logical.
@Meleeman011
@Meleeman011 Год назад
how would you feel about arguing with an intp athiest
@kara5925
@kara5925 2 года назад
Your comment about finding multiple choice questions hard because of struggling with the exact meanings of the words - I've never seen that mentioned before, but that is so spot on. I thought it was just me! I've even resorted to taking some tests multiple times using different interpretations of words to see how it affects the outcome.
@Ichthyodactyl
@Ichthyodactyl Год назад
Absolutely not just you. I've spent several, meaningful hours wondering if it was possible to make a job out of 'fixing' all of the bad quizzes, tests and application forms I find online because even the ones that are grammatically correct are just so imprecise. I've definitely rage-quite quizzes because I get to a question I literally can't discern the intended meaning of.
@johntaylor4013
@johntaylor4013 Год назад
like the personality tests, i did it with my therapist and its like, bro give me the context of this question. I need to know the context to reply accurately.
@MrTrashcan1
@MrTrashcan1 Год назад
If test questions (including personality tests) were written by an INTP, there would be no ambiguity.
@Drebolaskan
@Drebolaskan Год назад
One of the reasons I took the MBTI tests from multiple sites multiple times, tho they all gave me the same result
@MrTrashcan1
@MrTrashcan1 Год назад
@@Drebolaskan The information used in creating the tests is copied from each other or has become "accepted" but is not necessarily correct. Much is incorrectly interpreted or extrapolated and applied to areas where it is inappropriate. Also these tests lack sufficient questioning on sensing functions. So as much as I give you credit for trying, there's still no guarantee that you have been typed accurately. What do you think is your type?
@jhosaapostol5634
@jhosaapostol5634 3 года назад
It's actually accurate. I was able to know my personlity type better, but most of youtube videos regarding this topic wasn't help at all. But being specific and direct to the point helps a lot
@ejred3
@ejred3 2 года назад
I am an INTP and I think your breakdowns on differences are awesome.
@4fsake2024
@4fsake2024 2 года назад
When I tested I came out an INTX - 50/50 on the last category. Listening to this I keep switching back and forth again. I thought I was leaning more to the INTJ prior to this, but now I am back steady on I am in the middle. I dress INTJ - I read INTP - I am very focused on getting good grades to get a better job - But I like to study a variety of things just for the knowledge. I hated some classes because they were a waste of time. I get into the details of things, but I am very easy with taking the tests and I assume what the question was about. I am efficient in my communication but I don't care about whether someone is going to hire me or not - I just don't want to waste anyone's time. I don't want to debate, but I am more than happy to bring up ideas and ways to improve processes.
@fighterace0
@fighterace0 Год назад
If you were INTJ you would find no value in belaboring the nuance of possibility you were an INTP and you wouldn't want to be anyway. The fact you flip flop and have clear INTP tendencies with INTJ behaviors just proves you're INTP. I feel like an INTP can express INTJ but an INTJ can't express INTP. Take all this with a grain of salt of course and spend the next month analyzing it 😆
@Gleichtritt
@Gleichtritt Год назад
Forget the tests and understand what P and J mean. My wife is an INTP, I am an INTJ and often she says I have a "stick in my a" since I really don't like to drop a made plan. We said we go shopping today at 5, then why the heck are you not ready at 4:55 and how dare you to discard the plan and postpone it to tomorrow?
@edennis8578
@edennis8578 11 месяцев назад
Look at the visual representations. There's a world of difference between the visual manifestation of INTJ vs. INTP. Polar opposites. I, too, test almost 50/50 J/P, but the way INTPs create their environments makes me want to run screaming. Chaos(INTP) vs. Order(INTJ). Which one are you, deep down, if left to your own devices?
@edennis8578
@edennis8578 11 месяцев назад
​@@GleichtrittMy mother would change plans in a dime. She said we would go to some event, like a church social, and it would take me weeks to get used to the idea of being plunged into a crowd of people where I was supposed to have "fun." Then at the last minute, an hour before it was time to go, she would change her mind. It was almost physically painful for me to switch gears like that.
@4fsake2024
@4fsake2024 11 месяцев назад
@@edennis8578 I am reasonably organized, hate too much stuff, so I get called a minimalist. The house ebs and flows between ready for company to about 1/2 hour to be picked up and stuffed in a closet. I guess I would say chaos drains my energy and I am very stingy with my energy. So more INTJ
@snorlax6691
@snorlax6691 3 года назад
I had to cackle aloud when you mentioned INTJs being possibly into the occult… as an INTJ neck deep in occultism, I heartily approve!
@mbtisocialclub
@mbtisocialclub 3 года назад
Intj here, finished kybalion what's next?
@Noname-pn4tz
@Noname-pn4tz 2 года назад
Also an intj, have to agree completely
@accurategamer7085
@accurategamer7085 16 дней назад
As an INTP, 🤮 filthy
@evelyn1558
@evelyn1558 3 года назад
I agree so much about the religion part as an INTJ. It's so refreshing not to see stupid stereotypes saying that INTJs are egocentric and believes themselves to be gods and therefore would be the ones most likely to not subscribe to a religion. I love this video and the way you explain it all so well with legitimacy.
@jeffk3746
@jeffk3746 2 года назад
I’m an INTP that is spiritual but do agree most tend to me agnostic. I also agree with your preface that INTPs are not fans of ‘organized’ religion specifically. I think a lot of INTPs might tend toward some spiritual answer to figure out their constant question of ‘But what is everything, Really?” Einstein for example was INTP and even he made possibility for a more philosophical God. I think a more Philosophical creator might appeal to an INTPs Ti framework, while the dogma of organized religion will be against the INTPs more open minded nature.
@justinwhite2725
@justinwhite2725 2 года назад
As an INTP I hate debating with INTJs. I process a lot of information and have a general connected thread between them. I am not usually able to cite all my sources and instead read between the lines. INTJs can come at me with 5 articles debunking what I'm saying and it's hard to explain why those articles are biased or missing a nuance (the 'don't believe everything you read on the internet' phenomenon) So, that may be a key way to help people figure out their types. If you are able to cite all your sources you might be an INTJ. If you just have a general 'feel' of between the lines connected I formation, INTP. 6:45 yes. Also this. I can prove INTJs wrong and they will deflect (or find an article that co firms their bias, as is more likely the case). I can admit when I'm wrong, or at least point out when someone made a good point that I have to consider. 11:22 'leveraging knowledge' is a good way to explain what I wrote above.
@Respiritualisons
@Respiritualisons Год назад
Faux tu as tout inverser
@feliscorax
@feliscorax 10 месяцев назад
As an INTP-A, sounds about right!
@adamd9166
@adamd9166 3 года назад
As said, the eternal debate ;) I'm almost certainly an INTJ based on my interests and perceptions. I wasnt sure if INTP before but because I prefer to get to the point and be very pragmatic, I lean a bit more INTJ (though perhaps with a well-developed perceiving function also, because I have broad interests but ultimately focus on what is effective to my goals). You have a very pragmatic and down-to-earth way of defining and describing your observations. A real pleasure to watch and listen to. Thanks for the videos!
@JV-kn3yz
@JV-kn3yz 3 года назад
Omg you were very efficient in explaining all of this. It went all so neatly, and I loved the detail of putting the cognitive functions on the screen and mark which one you were talking about! Really really helpful. I'm an INFP (or I think I am) trying to learn more about each personality type, and honestly I think INTPs and INTJs are some of my personal favorites. I've seen other videos explaining their difference but none of them did it as well as you! The specific reason I came for this video is that I'm writing a book with a character that I'm not sure if she is an INTP or an INTJ. It's harder being a fictional instead of a real person (or a fictional character created by somebody else), because it means I can't just take what it's there and analize, I actually have to decide lol
@downsjmmyjones101
@downsjmmyjones101 3 года назад
I think a better way to explain how INTPs evaluate something is whether it makes internal sense. A Te user cares whether something is useful while the Ti user cares if it has rules and follows them. An INTP would like typology because functions have opposites like Ti-Fe, Si-Ne, Te-Fi, and Se-Ni. It makes a system. An INTJ would like typology for its ability to organize peope into useful groups. They get to know how to best interact with certain types and what strategies are most likepy to be productive and satisfactory.
@IanCorm84
@IanCorm84 3 года назад
This was a very interesting comparison. I have tested as INTP each time I do the MBTI test. I have a friend who tested as INTJ. He says I'm argumentative, while I think he's very chill, to the point that I can vividly remember ONE incident where he got heated, and I thought, 'Whoa! He must REALLY be pissed!' I've watched several videos - I think mostly by people who say they're ENFP - where they claim that INTPs are opinionated and argumentative, whereas INTJs just want to understand other perspectives, so it's interesting to hear you say the opposite, if I'm interpreting your words correctly. There are other things that you said that made me go 'Hmmmm that sounds more like my INTJ friend than it sounds like me!' and vice versa, but your description of our argumentative styles stood out the most. I do note that I tend to defer to my friend when it comes to real-world applications of things, while he defers to me more about how things work, which I'd say coincides with INTP and INTJ. Incidentally, he doesn't put much stock in the MBTI though, thinks it's BS, so I make sure to talk to him about it every once in a while just to annoy him. Lol. Anyway, yes, really great video; I'll probably be processing the information for quite a while.
@zak3744
@zak3744 3 года назад
INTP perspective: thinking of the people in my life who I think would be classified as INTJ (or ENTJ) I would say that we tend to find each other interesting, and enjoy each others company, as we often tend to find the same sorts of things and conversations interesting. However, we frequently find we have completely different, mutually incomprehensible approaches or worldviews within that. From my INTP side of the fence, that difference tends to be more intriguing, while the INTJ/ENTJ position I think is the more likely one to find exasperation in it (maybe that's just a personal effect of me, but I get the sense there's something more to it as well! 😄). The relationships are ones that are never entirely comfortable in the sense that we'd never have some sort of telepathic understanding, but are rather ones of mutual respect and permanent fascination. And while we really do get along well, we also appreciate a break after spending too long in each other's company!
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
What I love about INTPs is they're about the only personality that actually teaches me new things! I find them so intriguing (and nerdy 😛)
@dogdonut3
@dogdonut3 3 года назад
Mutual respect and permanent fascination. Yes! I'm an INTJ my adult son is an ENTP and a close family friend is an INTP. Our late night conversations were always so entertaining...and mentally invigorating!
@patientlips
@patientlips 3 года назад
I totally agree with the point about religion. I always see INFJs being related to beliefs in the occult, astrology, higher power, etc., but not INTJs. Probably because INTJs, as a thinking type, are seen as too rational to believe in those things, but the truth is Ni + Fi makes this type especially inclined towards those things. I venture to say that perhaps even more than the INFJs.
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
So interesting!
@stopasking9745
@stopasking9745 3 года назад
I just love how you use the word occult LOL that made my day
@richierebolios1813
@richierebolios1813 2 года назад
Infj here. I'm quite atheist lol. I like discussing the ideas but eventually, I can't logically seem to get on board with religion. It's always fun to talk about though.
@michaelhighlights1614
@michaelhighlights1614 2 года назад
whats irrational in believing in something? lol
@trevorfrayne6418
@trevorfrayne6418 3 года назад
I find this very interesting. I'm INTJ (although I think I do ENTJ part-time) and I have a coworker who is INTP. It's interesting when we talk about our struggles at work because you can see our NTs from different perspectives working. And it usually leads us to move through our frustrations and feeding off each other's humor which also comes from different perspectives. I did show up once as an INTP on a questionnaire, but I probably have half a dozen other times been INTJ or ENTJ. After reading The 16 Personalities Types by Dr. A.J. Drenth, I really feel more along the lines of INTJ faking the ENTJ part-time.
@jamescah9230
@jamescah9230 2 года назад
thank you for correcting what INTPs read. Today I looked up the history of the Bardiche, including how it was handled, while watching 2 of your videos. And now I am reading an old chemistry textbook. Literally the only thing I hate reading is fiction, because my brain keeps telling me that it is all bullshit and I am being lied to. There are exceptions of course, but easily over 90% of what I read is non fiction
@taylamorris
@taylamorris 2 года назад
I've always tested as an INTJ until I took a new test the other day. My result was an INTP. I tested high for Ti and low for Te, but high for Fi and low for Fe. I never cared to explore the INTP personally until now. I compared Ti to Te and I relate to parts of both. I considered that I might be a jumper. After watching this video, I'm confident that I'm an INTJ lol. I did relate to 2 things you said about INTPs, but not that much. Thank you for this video.
@unknowna7114
@unknowna7114 2 года назад
omg how is this literally down to the core precisely what happened to me
@patchwicked
@patchwicked 2 года назад
Perfectly explained what I'm going through right now. I've used " mistyped investigator" to reconfirm and reassess my type and found the same scenario you have provided xD
@exnihilonihilfit6316
@exnihilonihilfit6316 Год назад
How many browser tabs do you have? How many books do you have (physical & electronic) in your libraries? This will make it clear. 😄INTPs usually have hundreds of tabs open (to get to _one day_ 😄), and thousands of books... most of which will never be read (fully). 😄
@coreymay918
@coreymay918 2 года назад
I'm an INTP and I listen to nearly every genre of music. I guess my Ne function that makes me want to explore through music
@rzdanger
@rzdanger 2 года назад
same here
@Infrared01
@Infrared01 2 года назад
I started as an INTJ based on the generic test from 16p. But when I got into the stereotypes, I thought INTP fit better. So I researched the cognitive functions and decided I was more INTP. BuuUUUuut now I'm back at this eternal question because I still test as INTJ all the time. Now I'm slowly realizing I may be having a personality crisis, or am really reviewing myself. So now I'm back where I started lol
@Gleichtritt
@Gleichtritt Год назад
Tests are based on your perception, so you maybe are just bad at giving the right answer. But if you have a crisis whether you are INTP or INTJ, you are probably an INTP because the IJ's care a lot less about "who am I" than the IP's. I am an INTJ and I was sometimes not 100% sure if I am organized enough to be a J, but I in the end don't care, since I care a lot more about reaching my goals - well and after that I knew I am an INTJ
@raghavrathi884
@raghavrathi884 4 месяца назад
Same, but the opposite. I test INTP but I think I am an INTJ. And this fluctuates often.
@nidhitambi8539
@nidhitambi8539 3 месяца назад
i recognise this. this is the reason I checked out this video as well. so far, i think, what happens with me is that I'm young and i don't wanna keep changing every few years for the rest of my life. which is why, I'm trying my best to come up with an identity that i can more or less stick to permanently. but that makes this a very important decision and I'm not intp enough to gather all the information and then finally make my decision. i find some information and immediately wanna process how that changes the way i think about a theory I'm working on. so essentially i keep building myself and breaking myself down and often in the middle of this, i don't feel as confident as all INTJs would appear. all that self doubt and second guessing before i truly get to my decision is what makes me feel like an intp. so when I'm in the process of tearing apart a personality, i test as an intp. and once i see a new direction to rebuild, i get back to seeming like every other INTJ. idk what that makes me, or if I'm really just deluding myself.. but so far this is my theory. sorry that this is too long.
@specter99
@specter99 2 года назад
I thought I was an INTP but really am an INTJ The overlap is wild but the decision making and goal setting is where the gap in the 2 is a huge sea
@Branko158
@Branko158 3 года назад
Its actually funny, I dont know if there is such a type, but i literally saw myself half in INTP and half in INTJ in the stuff you were saying. Also when i took tests, it came once as INTJ and other time as INTP. But i see im not the only one looking at the comments... :D As far as Religion goes: i'd say im agnostic, but i like philosophy and wisdom that basically comes from all kinds of religions. And i try to use the wisdom by living by it. Arguing- I don't really care that i hurt someone if i say something (i dont usually even notice it), i always express my mind and like to endlessly discuss things to the point of running out of thoughts. Knowledge - I gain knowledge from everywhere, even some seemingly useless sources, but i always try to see how i could use them but i dont care about some hierarchical structuring (how to use knowledge to gain status or something). Communication - I try to be professional, be very efficient, no wasting of words if i am in such a situation, but with friends or with people i find connection with i am not really professional nor formal, i care more about words i say, if it could hurt them or how its gonna affect the relationship we have and therefore i express myself a lot slower and think about what i say in between sentences. Books(Information getting sources i'd say): I find only those that get me information that interest me, but my interest is very broad, but i use almost all of it, even if not instantly but i know i will use all of the info i get later on. (Things about money interest me, but im also very interested in fiction (scifi), i dont like historical and biographies, i dont like emotional books or movies etc. ) Music: I care about the quality of music, the music, i dont care about words in songs. Melody is everything. Random - i like video games a lot and memes, but about dressing i'd say i like dressing comfortably with style, + with the room style definitely the messy one :D
@keo5295
@keo5295 3 года назад
You forgot to add: astro-projection, and the agility to see beyond 5 d chess... aka (tap-dancing on a razor's edge). But I soo get it... H.S./ Coolidge National Deans' list... idinigo by chance?
@BigPapa64469
@BigPapa64469 3 года назад
Okay man i just commented this that i am a hybrid of intp and intj can i get your discord or something where we can exchange toughts
@BigPapa64469
@BigPapa64469 3 года назад
Man you are same as me please
@BigPapa64469
@BigPapa64469 3 года назад
@@keo5295 my man is right
@speedy_comet
@speedy_comet Год назад
The vibe contrasts spoke more than anything else Haha. Fun video thanks :)
@gomphe
@gomphe 2 года назад
This is a great compare/contrast video between INTPs and INTJs. In terms of religion, I (being an INTP) am agnostic. I believe that there is a higher power/deity, but his/her name may not be necessarily God, Jesus, Allah, etc. In regards to arguments, I do believe that it is accurate to say that INTPs prefer to debate online simply that we have time to think about it whereas INTJs may prefer live debates. (By the way, I believe arguing online is like participating in the Special Olympics. You're still considered a handicap even if you won the argument.) As for the knowledge section, I think it is spot on. Using myself as an example, I recently looked up a lot of information regarding life on an aircraft carrier, even though I have no plans to join the Navy anytime soon. However, I do have mix feelings about the communications portion. As an INTP, I think that I communicate very professionally. I avoid using contractions (unless it is a personal correspondence) and the correct format/tone. However, the video is spot on about the clothing. I rarely iron my shirts and as long as I look presentable, I am good to go. The video is also spot on about books. My library is filled with fantasy or Star Trek novels and Dungeon and Dragon handbooks. (yes, nerd/geek alert.) Overall, it's very informative and further helps me validate my personality type.
@drondasgupta9378
@drondasgupta9378 2 года назад
Interesting video! As an INTJ, I'd like to share my take on the "INTJs use knowledge for a specific purpose, INTPs just like hoarding it" phrase/idea in the type community. This confused me when I was new at typing but I think I have it figured out now, so hopefully, it can help someone else. From personal experience, I actually often like learning things just for the sake of it, and a few good sources I know say that Ni-doms, in general, tend to enjoy it because Ni loves data about abstract relationships. I guess it's for the sake of the core *meaning* of the information. If I know the core concept then I can "detach" the unrelated/weak variables and see where else it can be applied or how it connects to other similar concepts in case I need it for the future *even if I don't know where I'm going to use it*, similar to the point you brought up about why INTJs are more likely to take an interest in the occult. An INTP (or Ti-dom), on the other hand, will tend to be more interested in the logical and cause-and-effect relationships that define a system. They're going to want to study the system in detail and make that internal mind-map, and then *keep it there* when it's finished so they can use it to make a decision or analyze their overarching worldview, and to do that they obviously have to gather as much info about something as possible. Essentially, Ti is very purposeful with the information it's consuming. If some data isn't logically consistent, Ti will cut it out of the system while Ni will still try to glean some meaning from other aspects of the data. (read on for anecdote) This explains the difference between my thought process and that of an INTP friend I had. We both really liked learning things, but I noticed that he nearly always had a broad conclusion or opinion of some sort after he finished espousing the info. With logic to back it up (even if the evidence was simply logical consistency). I'd have a very solid grasp on the core idea, how to explain and apply it, but would also have to think about it for a little or Google some empirical evidence before I accepted it as a "worldview".
@exnihilonihilfit6316
@exnihilonihilfit6316 Год назад
You didn't know " *even if I don't know where I'm going to use it*, " (with a comma _after_ the second *) is not gonna work? 😄
@drondasgupta9378
@drondasgupta9378 Год назад
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 At the time of writing that comment, I wasn't familiar with the markup that RU-vid used, so I did not. Either way it gets my point across, but thanks for bringing it up so I can correct it, even though it looks weird with a space between the comma and the word so I will revert it back to original so that my point is conveyed without errors.
@xaviertyack5640
@xaviertyack5640 2 года назад
As an INTP, that was uncomfortably accurate, even down to my wardrobe, but I will say I definitely respect and maybe even envy a little the INTJ's organization, sharpness, and meaningfulness. While not per se messy, the level of entropy in my apartment could be better managed...
@exnihilonihilfit6316
@exnihilonihilfit6316 Год назад
How many browser tabs do you have in total on all your computers/phones? How many physical & electronic books do you have in total?
@rsngfrce
@rsngfrce Год назад
ACTUALLY... INTPs find multiple choice test questions often TOO EASY, because, I believe, they can eliminate the wrong answers by understanding what the questioner wants us to know (if that makes any sense).
@maxfleming447
@maxfleming447 2 года назад
For negative traits, INTJs and INTPs lose interest or thrive very differently. For the INTJ, the presence of a use, a goal or an over-arching structure or strategy will drive to seek more and deeper knowledge. The INTJ will hit scenarios where they discover what works without fully knowing why or the situation is unlikely so deeper effort is a waste for the main purpose. The acquisition of pure knowledge without advancing the overall purpose simply loses the interest of the INTJ. For the INTP, acquisition of knowledge is the elixir and a grand goal or efficient structure is a bore. It’s not that an INTP is not motivated by purpose, it is more like for a 1000 different related situations, the INTP wants to know exactly what is the best thing to do in each in one and precisely why that is so. Staying on the original task is confining, so it can easily fall away.
@matthewedwards6025
@matthewedwards6025 2 года назад
I think I'm an INTP/J split. That's how I've tested multiple times, and that's what I keep getting from examples: I agree with either view at one time or another, and sometimes I have a synthesis of the two. For example, religion: in the most technical sense, I have to admit I'm an agnostic because of the limits of what we can know and because of the inscrutable nature of the subject. However, there are practical benefits to believing in something (almost like a life hack), and so I CHOOSE to believe in religion. It's a mental gymnastic to try and believe something you know you can't know...mostly accomplished by mental tricks like avoidance.
@fetchyryu
@fetchyryu 2 года назад
how can you split when they have polar opposite cognition functions
@matthewedwards6025
@matthewedwards6025 2 года назад
@@fetchyryu Everybody has all functions, they just favor some over others. As you grow older, you may change your outlook; if you were nearly evenly split to begin with, it isn't hard to change categories.
@BaneHydra
@BaneHydra 2 года назад
@@fetchyryu because when you do tests, you'll find that each of the letters has a percentage assigned to it. If you're an INTP but you're 51% P and 49% J, it would be foolish to say that you are definitively one or the other.
@edennis8578
@edennis8578 11 месяцев назад
​@@BaneHydraLook at the visual comparisons. INTJs and INTPs express themselves in the physical in totally opposite ways. I also test as nearly 50/50 J/P, but the visual comparisons resolved all of my doubts. INTP = chaos in their environment. They're slobs. INTJ = order, neatness. They tend to be minimalists in their dress and surroundings. If left to your own devices where you could wear what pleases you most and create a physical environment that pleases you most, what would it look like?
@alowlypawn
@alowlypawn Год назад
I’m an INTP that is generally only interested in fiction for the theoretical aspects of narrative. But I have a double major in philosophy and history, so when I read stories I like them to be non-fictional or historical.
@glueball214
@glueball214 3 года назад
OMG .. I have been reading and watching other RU-vid channels to learn about the other types. But this blew them all away. You and Lijo are beyond in my book. Thanks.💙 Oh and I appreciate the vibes details.
@ayarikiyo2178
@ayarikiyo2178 2 года назад
I appreciate how you didn't tell me to like and subscribe. So now I'm liking and subscribing. 😁
@Akingsjourney
@Akingsjourney 3 года назад
Love the way you under intp especially without being one. Some generally skim and you can tell you know. It was like you knew me personally.
@Aaron-hy1ei
@Aaron-hy1ei 3 года назад
My depictions of the two are physicist vs engineers. The physicist (intp) focus on asking why, and work to understand and inform others, providing them validation from others that they are "smarter", however it is all theoretical. The engineer (intj) is focused on asking how, and explores potential paths. However, this is practical based and the validation is achieved by progressing with their own values. However, both will use what ever resource is required.
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
That's a great Ti vs Te analysis!
@The-yb2up
@The-yb2up 3 года назад
I assure you that the ti path is unusual to understand, and harder to share with others than Te which is made for the understanding of each. On the other hand, the intj with blind fe and Ni fits a lot more with the common cliche about the socially inadapted genius, always on their projects, very serious, with a mystical like connection with the void x). Intps are aloof, goofy and ne is more often seen as "cringy" than te.
@zrje08
@zrje08 2 года назад
As a retired chemist (INTP), most of the engineers I worked with demonstrated the INTJ personality. Imagine an INTP making a presentation to a room of hard core INTJ types and making a side comment which was off the main focus the meeting. You do it only once.
@michaelhighlights1614
@michaelhighlights1614 2 года назад
@@zrje08 what was so extraoridinary about it :D
@fleetingfootnotes9133
@fleetingfootnotes9133 3 года назад
"Am I hurting the *other*'s feelings?" isn't Fi; it's Fe.
@bouclechocolat
@bouclechocolat 3 года назад
Yep, I would expect INTJ Fi+Te to hold others accountable for managing their own feelings
@user-wk5vh5tk3q
@user-wk5vh5tk3q Год назад
The vibe I have always gotten was Intj: I won't hurt you if you don't hurt me. Intp: I don't want to hurt you please don't hurt me
@vlandorrackhum5420
@vlandorrackhum5420 3 года назад
Lovely video. My two best friends for life since Kindergarden are an INTJ and an INTP. We chat every 1 or 2 weeks regardless of our adult busy lives. There's no small chat, always deep stuff and intellectual stimuli hahah I love them. They are like twins in terms of personality, to external people they seem similar, to me they are entirely different. - INFJ
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
Twins is such a great analogy for it!!! Similar at first, but vastly different once you get to know them.
@vlandorrackhum5420
@vlandorrackhum5420 3 года назад
Aye
@staticinteger
@staticinteger 2 года назад
As an INTP this was actually very helpful to me! Also you're really cute. Just thought I would step outside my comfort zone and say that xD
@francisco5434
@francisco5434 2 года назад
I was so stuck between the two types, but your comparisons were spot on and helped me realize I am an INTP and not an INTJ. The clarification between behaviors and cognitive perceptions was a lightbulb lighting up in the dark. The comparisons of how the ISTP is less formal but more in touch with emotions, helped seal the deal. I wondered why I felt different than ISTJs I was seeing. Their minds and logic seemed so agile compared to my way of absorbing concepts and information. But your descriptions were just what I needed to understand I was mistyping myself. And this after several days of watching other videos trying to understand the intricacies of the cognitive aspects. Thanks, you were great!
@fabobg
@fabobg 3 года назад
I really braced for impact in the beginning when you said "I'll try to offend you", but then you proceeded and the whole video just gave me 'feel good' vibes of how awesome, unique and complementing the two types are. (excluding the socks with sandals part...like...wtf ? Who does that? :D ) After watching the video I came to think (as an INTP) that INTJ would make a great romantic partner for the INTP. Maybe you can make a video about it ? I'd be pretty interested to see what your thoughts are.
@ikaikafoster
@ikaikafoster 2 года назад
Devout Christian INTP who reads way more non-fiction than fiction, but definitely loves fantasy/sci fi TV and movies.
@rsngfrce
@rsngfrce Год назад
As an INTP, I freely admit to almost ALWAYS wearing shorts, because wet legs dry far faster than wet pants (DUH!), BUT... I have NEVER knowingly worn a flowered shirt nor would I! 😂
@dorisriley8538
@dorisriley8538 Год назад
I am a newbie to the personality identity quest. I have taken several tests and done some intensive research, and am still struggling to identify my type. I find your videos very helpful, not only in their content, but in your explanatory style. There is so much about you and the observations you make that resonate with me, which leads me closer to the conclusion that I am likely an INTJ.
@gregorysouthworth783
@gregorysouthworth783 3 месяца назад
Very good video. I am a male ambivert NTJ and I am around many women who are INTJs. Your discussion of the differences between INTP and INTJ caused me to think of an engineering firm where the INTPs were the working engineers and the INTJ was possibly their manager. All engineers, but the INTPs would argue with each other over the soundness of the research on a particular application whereas the INTJ would say, "ok, folks, we are going to have to come to some kind of consensus and move forward with that." I really liked your discussion of religion and INTJ. That was incredibly accurate! My own religious beliefs would be considered unconventional and many of the INTJs I know are also spiritual, but may be attracted to alternative interpretations of any religious tradition, even blending traditions where it seems to work. Books, same story, spot-on. although I do think the NTJ will more likely ask, how does this help better understanding in some way? Clothing and dress, I have met the socks, sandals, and cargo shorts folks. They are usually very bright and are often considered eccentric by other personality types. It often takes an INTJ or an ENTJ to see their deeper value to whatever project is being addressed.
@jetbllackwings
@jetbllackwings Год назад
this is by far the best explanation i’ve heard of intj vs intp. stereotypically i lean more towards intp but your description of intj highly resonates with me. i feel so seen cause stereotypes almost ruined mbti for me.
@gautam5048
@gautam5048 7 месяцев назад
INTP - You just summed up how I dress, what I read and how i talk.
@B03Eastwood
@B03Eastwood 5 месяцев назад
Indeed :) I sometimes wonder if I'm not some other type. But I resonated with about 80% of the INTP side. Then again that's not 100%. To be fair, categories are pretty much always just lines drawn on spectrums. But maybe that's a very INTP thing to say.
@HermesGirl
@HermesGirl 3 года назад
(INTJ 5w4) You are delightful. You speak clearly and quickly, you told us the point right upfront and what you were going to be telling us. You even gave people who were just looking for definitions an out. lol, Would hate to waste someone's time. Many of your observations and theory are akin to my own. For instance, you mentioned that INTJs might be more interested in the occult or that type of thing than the INTP would. I literally just told someone yesterday that an INTP is more likely to be a scientist whereas an INTJ is more likely to be a demonologist. HAHAHA Personally, I am fascinated by the paranormal. I have so many questions. Oh and your thoughts on INTP vs INTJ taking a test, where an INTP might focus on the words chosen and their literal meanings, while the INTJ comes from the angle of "what is it the point of this question? what is it that it wants me to say?" ... THAT. Great observation and yes. Totally that. And I concur with INTJ's being more into nonfiction than fiction, although I LOVE me a good Stephen King book. But a nonfiction book that is on a topic that I find useful or fascinating, one I can pick up and open to a section that is relevant, those books I love. For me, enjoy what could be qualified as "self-help" books; but the way I like to go with those is a bit more on the darker side than most people would associate with that genre. Think Robert Greene. My INTP son is a huge history buff and politically inclined.
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
Jessica I LOVE this comment!! Such interesting observations! Also I totally agree on "dark" self-help books lol
@HermesGirl
@HermesGirl 3 года назад
@@AlexisKingsley Right?! Like The Art of Seduction is basically How to Win Friends and Influence People Darkly LMAO Speaking of, I work at the library .. not with the public of course, but deep within the bowls ... in technical service ... Anyhow, know what I found on the garbage cart? A second edition 1937 How To Win Friends and Infulence People. Not even a library book but a donation just put on the garbage cart. What kind of monster does that? Well, I took it. Along with Camus The Stranger. #camusisbae
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
@@HermesGirl lmaooooo the art of seduction 😂I LOVE the stranger!!!
@HighFiveFriend
@HighFiveFriend 3 года назад
This is the best!!! 100% 👍 Sandy 5w4 INTJ
@AlyssaGrawey
@AlyssaGrawey 2 года назад
Alright cool, I've figured out that I'm not an INTJ. Now to figure out if I'm actually INTP or INFP...
@Sofiarey285
@Sofiarey285 2 года назад
This is very interesting to me, an ENFP. I find myself gravitating more to INTJ but I have worked with more INTPs and I couldn’t figure out how the vibe could be so different. I relate more to the description of INTJ in this video as in the things that interest me and I agree with dressing the part at work. I need to do more research.
@PepeTheToad
@PepeTheToad 2 года назад
*2 comments on your analysis: 1. INTJs are more emotionless than INTPs 2. INTP = collect more information but not deeply INTJ = can specialize in specific discipline and yes deeper than INTPs 1:- on the first case, you conclude the opposite maybe cuz the INTP you know seems less emotional from the time or perspective you perceived or that is a rare case. you have to take more samples. 2:- INTPs can tell INTJ many areas about many field but INTJ can refute and disprove INTPs when it comes to specificity. INTPs are good at a general analysis of something but INTJs are better at critical analysis of a specific area, it is partially because if INTJs don't want to gather information unless it relates to something they want, and will go deep because they constantly keep asking "what if this way" that will basically rebut their own perspective and as an analogy of obsessing to have contingency plans. ______ additionally; INTJs can be way religious because they are proclive to be extremely ethical.
@P1losa
@P1losa 2 года назад
I think you missed her point a bit. She was talking about INTJ-s being more emotional when debating. So doing their extroverted thinking stuff. Of course INTP-s are much better at expressing emotions generally in life. Like when socializing etc. And INTJs will walk with a poker face most of the time. But when they have do Te stuff like public speaking, debating, teaching, presentations,stand-up comedy, acting.. They tend to convey more passion and emotion at that
@ErickdOlisa6038
@ErickdOlisa6038 11 дней назад
Sounds like someone is an INTJ here.
@micha-estla6860
@micha-estla6860 3 года назад
Omg this makes soo much more sense!! I thought I was an INTP but I’m more like an INTJ 😭 ty you’re the only accurate one. You just got to the point.
@Kyle-ms2et
@Kyle-ms2et 2 года назад
I am an INTP and I felt that this video explained some nuances pretty well. I really do care about the "why" in understanding things and like to take time in intellectual pursuits, being a devil's advocate to myself and others. While I have a set of subjects that I focus on, I do enjoy attaining broad knowledge and making connections between different fields. I tend to dress both like an INTJ and INTP as the RU-vidr described and like broad musical genres, including classical. I try to ready one fictional novel a week because it is good for me but consume more non-fiction overall.
@plots4
@plots4 3 года назад
INTP. I think this is one of the best MBTI videos I’ve seen. I thought your mention of music was interesting. My tastes are all over the board but typically it’s lyrics that draw me in the most. Ive been getting deeper and deeper into reggae the past 4 years or so. I love the socially conscious themes that are universal, along with the spiritual angles of oneness and I’m all about the revolutionary political stuff. It helps that the vibe is full of life and energy to me and soothes my anxiety most of the time. My INFJ wife hates it with a passion and says it’s boring and slow and not of my people. So I’ll put it out there: Is reggae a weird genre for an INTP?
@lishayost144
@lishayost144 2 года назад
No genre is weird for INTP ;)
@ijmimi9186
@ijmimi9186 3 года назад
Wish I could give a million thumbs. You are one of the most authentic INTJs on this platform and your understanding of your type is so profound. You also do a pretty good job explaining the types too. Please keep posting.
@ijmimi9186
@ijmimi9186 3 года назад
I only read non-fiction, useable Te books lol. I watch my fiction on the screen lol for Se. Also fiction takes forever to describe everything - I know it's a good thing for imagination lol. It just feels like waste of Te time. And I know the movies don't do enough justice ie Harry Potter, but I always just waited for them. Everything the author is describing in 3 pages, I see in 3 seconds of the movie lol.
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
@@ijmimi9186 lolol I relate to fiction books taking too long sooooo much
@thebigredwagon
@thebigredwagon 2 года назад
My introversion is at the point where all I want to do is be alone and chase my interests all the time and when I have to go out to work or pick something up I have a real hatred for even having to look at people on the street. I know this is not good. I do fight the urge but sometimes the thought of a Thanos snap event sounds so good.
@Jornanfuentes
@Jornanfuentes 8 месяцев назад
seing this as an INFJ it's like seeing two brothers and me being the one in the middle just understanding both of them and analyzing them having a mixture of both in myself.
@Phillia_crochet
@Phillia_crochet Месяц назад
The way I used astrology back in junior high is similar to how I use personality typology now: a way to know and understand people and prepare beforehand on what to do or how to react in interpersonal interactions. Also, I read a whole dictionary back in junior high because my Literature and headteacher whom I looked up to told my class to have a dictionary to help with writing essays. I was like "What good of a book if I don't read it?" 😅 I did enjoy it and met another person who is like the male version of me that also read dictionary when bored for fun (and for his classwork). I like learning for both the enjoyment of knowing something new and to be prepare, just in case. I like both fiction and non-fiction but reading fictions to me has extra purposes/ uses than just because I like it. Things I like and chose to get in usually serve more than one purpose than just to satisfy myself. For example, reading various styles of writing helps me practice and learn more about the language I'm learning as well as different writing styles, tone of voices, get ideas on possible scenarios to prepare for (again), etc. Fictions has the extra benefits of helping me identify and process my emotions, learn to empathize, know and understand people.
@ChillHouseMusic
@ChillHouseMusic 2 года назад
Congratulations, you just earned a new INTJ subscriber just by saying you didn't care about history. Damn I know how that made you feel back in high school.
@migsmethinks5801
@migsmethinks5801 3 года назад
It's funny. I have a lot of INTP-type interests, so I do get suspicious at times. Then I remember that my reasons for them are all very INTJ: -History: People are people; and we're still the same (well, mostly) biologically as we've been hundreds of years ago. Studying past events helps to detect constants amd unending cycles, as well as the future. -Classical music: Yeah, it's mostly for the mood/meaning. Something about it makes me feel more put-together and capable of conquering the world. Memes: I just wanna laugh, okay? Fiction vs. Nonfiction: I watch a lot of both, but rarely read fiction because it's reading it is an inefficient means of entertainment and general absorbtion. Also watch a lot of fiction because once I start, I need all available closure on every plot and subplot. Also I have an INTP sister. In high school, was wearing blazers, learning to trade stocks on my own, doodling org-charts of potential future shell companies in the margins of my notebooks, and avoiding the more work-intensive levels of every practically-useless class I could get away with (it was so liberating when I discovered most UK university programs took 3 years instead of 4 to complete, didnt care about extracurriculars, and accepted AP exams and SAT subject tests as equals). She, however, rarely thought about the endgame, took every higher level class and extra class that mildly interested her "for funsies", and had an affinity for graphic T-shirts and military field jackets with more pockets than a blazer.
@brain0nfire
@brain0nfire Год назад
I have identified as INTJ for some years now but I'm falling more and more between these categories for some reason. You hit a lot of curious points which were particularly fitting and show how in between I am. Which is fine! People get this idea that you are a type. But types are just contructions based on abstract categories. We are much more complex. Yes, there can be trends and stereotypes, but also there a lot of nuances and exceptions.
@juniormynos9457
@juniormynos9457 3 года назад
🤯Wow. As an INTP I Feel like you might have a crystal ball somewhere. You described me perfectly from the way I think and speak down to some of my preference in music, hobbies and interests. Thinking further though this is potentially bad cause now I realise how predictable I am.🙁 Or maybe this doesn't actually describe most INTP's and it was just by random chance it applies to me.🤔
@thangray531
@thangray531 3 года назад
This specific mistyping is only an issue for the INTJ, considering these two types. INTPs don’t care what they think they are. They only care about clean logic in understanding. I suspect your mistyped INTPs are the same as every INTJ I’ve ever known. They test for their ideal self and not their true self. INTPs don’t waver in truth... especially in their opinion of it because they don’t have an opinion on it. It just is.
@wakatpr6583
@wakatpr6583 3 года назад
That is kinda true but as an INTP I feel a bit stressed cause this is not a perfect science, like I still am not convinced of being an INTP even though I perfectly fit the stereotype. I don’t like this cause it isn’t clean logic basically, though I think INTP would love this kind of things, imagine being able to perfectly classify identities, this is orgasmic for an INTP and very attractive
@thangray531
@thangray531 3 года назад
@@wakatpr6583 it’s type theory, not type fact. Best fitting shoe goes in the cart.
@thangray531
@thangray531 3 года назад
@@wakatpr6583 I noticed you couldn’t help but identify as INTP before undermining your logic. That’s how we do it.
@wakatpr6583
@wakatpr6583 3 года назад
@@thangray531 sorry i did not understand what you meant ?
@Napoleona777
@Napoleona777 Год назад
I’m an INTJ and people have confused me with and INTP. To generalize I know INTJS are more likely to plan into the future than INTPs. As an INTJ I like to plan in ahead the activities I were to do on a trip but that doesn’t necessarily mean I will follow my own schedule. I do it as a guideline to plan ahead.
@diarmuidrussell5302
@diarmuidrussell5302 3 года назад
Wow, that was brilliant, you’re a female version of what happens in my head.
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
😂
@nowrin_8193
@nowrin_8193 3 года назад
lol
@xtremelyxcitingxploits3694
@xtremelyxcitingxploits3694 3 года назад
I can relate to you with the astrology part as an INTJ... LOL
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
lol
@FHD_GG
@FHD_GG 2 года назад
omg this youtuber just exposed every thing that me (intj) and my friend (intp) have ever said and argued about in the last 3 years
@tokovega
@tokovega 2 года назад
thank you, videos like this make me appreciate my flaws more. like they have a positive side. yeah, i know it is obvious :D but it doesn't feel this way most of the time
@iimmortaliss
@iimmortaliss 11 дней назад
found this video because i find myself struggling a bit with my mbti. i identify myself as INTJ but i can't be 100% sure religion: i'm not a religious person (grew up in a religious household, highly triggered by religion), but i do find occult interesting, tarot cards especially. i have a friend who would do tarot readings for me, for instance, if i ask them about a specific person, what they think of me and my friend gives me the info, i know better how to approach that person, or how to make them like me better if i need to. or about love life, what to expect in the future arguing: i dont like arguing online, for me its a waste of time. i have very strong opinions on certain topics, i am a piercing enthusiast and once we had an argument with my friend about piercing guns. they never changed their mind about piercing guns which i'm pissed about, i hate piercing guns. and to this day, we still argue about piercing guns. if it comes to sensitive topics, like transphobia, i don't care about other people's feelings. transphobia is wrong and i will protect my opinion with all my heart. knowledge: well, i never did well at school, at least i think so. i did well in languages and literature, i wrote good essays because i love writing, and i aced every biology test because i want to go to med school. that's it in every other subject i sucked ngl... i suck at math specifically.. though i still aced math exam simply because im good at cheating communication: i get straight to the point and i can often sound rude, i'm sorry books: i like classic literature. i'm a book enthusiast. and i don't like people who read literal smut, you don't need books to read that just say you don't appreciate literature and you like fanfics on ao3 or something. only classic literature on my bookshelves, russian literature. dostoevsky or dazai osamu. i read slow but i really enjoy reading something deep music: i divide my playlists in different vibes, one goth and post punk, second metal and rock, third pop like lady gaga. and i absolutely HATE people who mix up different genres in their playlists. liek don't you listen to different genres depending on your mood? English is not my first language, and i've seen someone write this in the comment section so i'm writing this as well to compare later. yeah i still think i'm an intj after comparing this
@tony7787
@tony7787 Год назад
This confirms for me that I'm an INTJ. I feel so seen 😂. You literally mentioned my favorite band. All the other videos I watched left me so confused because I could relate to both but your examples were so spot on.
@jackmilligan550
@jackmilligan550 3 года назад
I agree with basically all of this, as an INTP. One thing though, is that I only read non-fiction. This is not because I can't "use" fiction, but rather that it doesn't add to my inner knowledge framework or understanding of the world. I read non-fiction, but perhaps different from INTJs. Maybe INTJs would read a lot of self help books, about how to get rich, etc etc. Stuff that they can use to help with their practical lives. I read science books or philosophy books, which help me develop my understanding of thoughts on the world. So my non-fiction needn't have a practical real world use, but must help stimulate my Ti thoughts.
@AlexisKingsley
@AlexisKingsley 3 года назад
That makes a lot of sense!
@leagarner3675
@leagarner3675 2 года назад
I read a lot of classic literature, folktales, short stories. I think because it helps me figure out the human condition. Non-fiction usually about something i don't already understand, or a user manual.. lol.
@scarziepewpew3897
@scarziepewpew3897 Год назад
i honestly do both, i spend an year learning about philosophy and different branches to get my beliefs together, now all i read are practical stuff- i do think i lean intj more. since the branches of philosophies i read were like the meta stuff, phil of religion consciousness, action. not morality or the things that are too what ought be the case and very theoretical. i read thise philosophies to see if i can cut out religion out of my life whihc takes alot oftime & space. it worked
@The_Scouts_Code
@The_Scouts_Code 2 года назад
@17:45 I'm an INTX and I like: 1. 90's Rap. 2. Baroque and Classical. 3. 70's and 80's Rock. 4. Some 90's and 00's Pop. 4. Some K-Pop.
@fireboltrider139
@fireboltrider139 2 года назад
Look at the song handlebars by Flobots, INTPs can "keep rhythm with no metronome, no metronome, no metronome" and the INTJ "can lead a nation with a microphone with a microphone with a microphone." In a nutshell (from my perspective as an INTP) INTPs like picking up every knowledge possible and INTJs maintain knowledge to a particular caveat, to a general population of INTPs and INTJs as a whole.
@fernandovargas9123
@fernandovargas9123 4 месяца назад
I found your video very useful. It was very clever to use images to illustrate the differences between the two. Once I saw the photos it was very clear to me.
@erossutra4064
@erossutra4064 2 года назад
I was also great in math and chemistry, always focused on growth, spiritual, learn only what I can use, was an honor student, history class was a pain for me too but I passed it.
@quioJ31
@quioJ31 16 дней назад
I'm an intj and my friend is intp we don't talk as much and I find our dynamics weird, but whenever we start a conversation it's always deep and meaningful she is a nerd typical intp very smart but lacks structure in life. We're famous for being the odd duo.
@no_one.is_here
@no_one.is_here 7 месяцев назад
Am an intj and i relate to most of the things that you said And yeah , knowledge for us is to be useful I learned english just so i can explore more centent , more books in english to gain the i formations i need to be better in my career And with everything i want to learn I notice that i have this mentality of "Yeah, but where can i use this ?" And the parts where you talked about how INTPs felt for you more smarter I had the same experience in high school I have an intp freind and i couldn't stop thinking about how smart she was Even tho she didn't get food grades as me And i think that's because she had a lot of random informations about various topic
@mr.anti-hero4398
@mr.anti-hero4398 Год назад
I'm an INTj, but when I take the function--dispositionary test---Ti is higher than it'd extroverted counterpart, which is both atypical and weird. Here's the list of the function supremacy: (1) Ni> (2)Ti> (3)Fi> (4)Te > (5)Ne> (6)Si> (7)Fe> (8)Se> My prospecting to judging ratio is sittin' around P[49]: J[51]
@sagittoriancreative
@sagittoriancreative 2 года назад
My Bookshelf: Astrology Tarot Philosophy (Stoicism) Non-duality (Spirituality) Buddhism Business Politics Economics Cryptocurrencies Black History Fiction Books Psychology Neuroscience Personality Types (MBTI)
@sylviaowega3839
@sylviaowega3839 3 года назад
I’m an an INTP and my husband is an INTJ, abs find this video to be quite interesting and accurate
@cvrnda2571
@cvrnda2571 2 года назад
from INTJ back to INTx. And I think it's gonna be that way forever
@hnodchuip
@hnodchuip Год назад
haha Im INTP but this video just made me agree more with INTJ examples than INTP examples LMAO. no lie I never get along with other INTPs but, Im pretty sure I'm still intp, as getting along with people has nothing to do with types. but honestly I think its probably bc the examples here were male INTPs, and Im female. while types do share thinking processes, but the human brain and the nature of male and female thinking processes are still vastly different.
@Jazaltron
@Jazaltron 2 месяца назад
I just watch in 2x speed to help you get to the point quicker, your welcome
@1manApocalypse_CP
@1manApocalypse_CP Год назад
As someone who considers myself INTP and Agnostic/Atheist, the religion part seemed pretty accurate.
@ninakaitlan3122
@ninakaitlan3122 4 месяца назад
I have tested as an INTP female a few years back. I am very analytical and philosophical in my approach to daily life. Spiritual but not religious. I feel deeply for others and am very affectionate to the ones closest to me (few). I value my alone time for learning/reading self reflection, testing my own ideas about the world. I find the education system to be broken and incapable of nurturing great minds to their fullest potential. Upon first glance, I don’t fit the common stereotype of a female INTP due the fact that I present myself as very feminine at times. I have explored the history of fashion and I love to play with these elements as a form of expression. However it could be that I use fashion and makeup as a tool for coping socially. Music and the arts are a passion of mine and I like to explore them through many lenses; psychological, therapeutic, anthropological, historical context. Could there be a misconception about female INTPs or perhaps my result was off?
@suzannehutnick3170
@suzannehutnick3170 3 месяца назад
Same here. I didn’t see myself in this discussion at all.
@kuruseikatsu4948
@kuruseikatsu4948 2 года назад
After taking the test several times (at least 30 times, not at once!) and typed each time as an INTJ, and after reading about all the functions and trying to understand them etc. , watched a bunch of videos this one included (i liked it by the way), I still struggle and find my self in both. I can't really determine with an acceptable degree of certainty which type fits me the best. Well maybe I should just stick in the middle. INTJP ?...
@edennis8578
@edennis8578 2 года назад
Have you looked at the breakdown of your percentages? I'm an INTJ, testing the same numerous times over 15 years, but I noticed just lately that my J to P ratio is 55/45.
@fighterace0
@fighterace0 Год назад
I went for probably ten years thinking I was INTJ until a friend pegged me as INTP without asking and looking into it actually seemed pretty accurate. Cue a year long off and on study of trying to figure which one I am. This was by far the most helpful comparison to help me come to terms with the best high probability I was in fact INTP all along. I think you did a great job of trying to cater to INTP while making your arguments here and every example was on point. Argumentative on Reddit, but cautious and catering in person, Moody rock and technical jazz, comfort wear. You started to stick INTP to just reading fiction which perplexed me but you quickly fixed it. I'll listen to audiobooks and podcasts ranging from history to economics to statistics to fantasy to science fiction. Anything is educational and I'll listen to anything that I might learn and store away for a day I might could need it. The Martian apparently seems to be the highly technical fiction tailor made for INTP and the book was absolutely amazing. I could go back and listen to the other examples given to add to my review but I feel the point has long been made for you INTJ. Again, thanks for this excellent comparison and the visual guides ni, te, etc was massively helpful.
@exnihilonihilfit6316
@exnihilonihilfit6316 Год назад
How many browser tabs do you have? How many books do you have (physical & electronic) in your libraries? This will make it clear. 😄INTPs usually have hundreds of tabs open (to get to one day 😄), and thousands of books... opposite of INTJ.
@fighterace0
@fighterace0 Год назад
@@exnihilonihilfit6316 no more physical books these days but an audio library longer than I have time for. I've learned to stay more organized lately than to have 30 tabs open any more and never have more than 10 but then again I have 4 screens with one or more things going on in each one so...
@nik7688
@nik7688 3 года назад
once again confirmed that i’m an intp lol
@pjackson8322
@pjackson8322 6 месяцев назад
As an INTP, I've always been told to stop analyzing people. I honestly dont know I am. I just feel like im trying to understand whats being said. But recently I've just started rebutting with "tell a calculator not to calculate". I cant help it and thats how my brain thinks, PLEASE dont take it personally because it's 100% not personal. Still difficult but its a start.
@user-wk5vh5tk3q
@user-wk5vh5tk3q Год назад
I was having to jump back 10 seconds frequently before you even got to the first point between INTP and INTJ and it just made so much sense to me. Not that you were talking fast just that I needed to ponder a bit, sorry!
@hfortenberry
@hfortenberry Год назад
INTJ here. On the organized religion thing, HELL NO! I think we’re far more likely to be “spiritual” or fringe/esoteric due to our Fi. My grandfather was a preacher, built a large church with a school through 8th grade, adult classes, the whole nine yards, and he was a wonderful preacher, very sincere and had a large congregation (which meant me and my brother were a bit of a celebrity and were fawned over as the preacher’s grandchildren); but, from as young as 7 years old I was REALLY struggling with it. I found it “ignorant, unintelligent, ridiculous, etc.”. I asked questions that never got good answers and I felt these people are not thinking about any of this and they’re just following and in some cases being hypocritical and judgmental, opposite of what they supposedly believe. I didn’t say it that blatantly but I was just so confused about why people did this religion thing. I had long conversations with my INFJ mother throughout my childhood about how this could be and analyzed it deeply. Fortunately she was a good sounding board and actually had some insight and well thought out responses compared to anyone else, and she too understood where I was coming from although she had been very involved in the church in her youth) so I had no fears of being honest about how I felt with her. I remember at about 12 years old I figured out that some people needed to be told what values to have and others of us created our own value system. I now know that is the difference between Fe and Fi and I’ve watched this across my lifetime (I’m now 54) and there is a is strong pattern of Fe users being drawn to organized religion while Fi users are somewhat repelled by it. I’ve been agnostic my entire life, since I learned the term as a child. I occasionally revisit it but always come back to it. And I’ve been practicing Law of Attraction for the last 20 years, and definitely do see large divine patterns in the universe which leads me to believe in a divine loving creative force (which many would call God) which is why I say I’m spiritual. But then I also practice witchcraft now as I’ve gotten older and see it as the perfect culmination of a belief in the divine, quantum physics (I’ve got 2 science degrees), a deep love and reverence for life, nature and earth, a passion for law of attraction and working with energy, self-healing, herbalism, and an independent, mindful, growth-mindset attitude towards life. Most of that is a bit counter to many organized religions (although it doesn’t need to be but that another conversation for another day). So yeah, I think you nailed it on the mystic and esoteric areas of life (but not occult - that’s different). But, I gotta push back a bit on the tarot and astrology. They aren’t based in science which means they aren’t legitimate in my mind and even if there is a small effect of planets aligning, it’s minuscule compared to just using your own free will and using MBTI and LOA, which do have some science underpinnings and objective supporting evidence. So I don’t waste my time with astrology and Tarot, although I do enjoy a good Oracle card draw which allows for more personal, self-guided growth out of the subconscious and shadow work. Yeah, MBTI and LOA are FAR MORE effective uses of your time insofar as understanding people and planning out your life. Books? I totally agree with you there. Always preferred non-fiction. I’ve always been obsessed with books and learning, early in life it was more children’s books of the time (Dr. Seuss and Winnie the Pooh, then Judy Bloom, Nancy Drew, Jean Craighead George and Laura Engles Wilder, then science, psychological and nature-based science fiction/fantasy (Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking, Jean Auel, Tolkien, L’Engle, C.S.Lewis, Arthur C. Clarke, etc.), then later it was human-centered (psychology, self-help, spirituality, philosophy, true crime), and anything related to my hobbies or passions/businesses (aquaria, gardening, prepping, dog-training. homesteading, business, marketing, macro-economics, programming, front end web dev, witchcraft, sustainability, nature, etc.). I’m ridiculous when it comes to books and yes I do actually read them. Throughout I’ve sprinkled in the classics. In just one of my bookshelves, I have 111 books on web design and development. And I’ve got 6 other bookcases. I dream of one of those floor-to-ceiling library walls with a rolling ladder so I can have all my books in one room. 💗
@jesssss12
@jesssss12 9 месяцев назад
Intj are definitely more into spirituality/ religion/ subscribing to things such as tarot/occult ideas for the use of it. Intp (Ti user) likes to analyze the validity of each claim, and subscribe to a specific category (maybe even make it up themselves 😅) that they feel they identify with. Basically intp likes to make things clear and accurately tell people what they belive in.
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