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“I don’t know what to do, just toss it away” Gets stuck, wanders off. If they really do that with people, no wonder they have so much depression and anxiety around people. Explains so much. Thank you.
I was actually about to type “it’s interesting” lol It’s like the deciders can be crazier with the things because they just don’t put much weight into it. He said he filled his house 3 times with I guess random shit like what was in the interview. Nothing stressful about that. So are observers just that nonchalant with people? Like “yeah I cut that guy off” who cares! It’s like we learn to care and then learn not to care.
An Observer can tolerate other's opinions / self image / I'm better here, you're better there kind of dynamics, but will cut someone off if that person is a risk to the Observer's comfort getting disrupted / his vision getting ruined / his lifestyle being limited / and so on. Walter White from Breaking Bad is an Observer (IJ). A Decider will tolerate chaos / boredom and will find balance between those two forces, but will cut someone off if that person makes the Decider feel bad about himself / ruins the Decider's relationships with others. Typical Decider stereotype is Skyler from Breaking Bad (EJ).
@@filipposa212 Thanks for the information and analysis. I was always befuddled by the observing vs deciding aspect of Objective Personality. I have typed myself as an INTP, so that works. Now I know that I'm also a single decider.
I’m sure I’m an IxxP, but you clarified it a a bit. I never really liked to talk about people because it was deemed as “blamey” and it made me like whiny and shit. Now because I know that they are my problems, I talk about it more.
For a minute I was like "thank god I'm a not a double observer and do that with people" but then I realized how I get screwed over by the smallest of things rather than people and I'm not sure that it's even better.
Yeah we're really doing that with people.. I literally can't figure out my relationship with someone and so I just walk away and never speak to them again. My life is awash with ex "friends" and acquaintances that I didnt fall out with they simply ceased to exist in my world anymore.
@@kindauncool A type that looks like another type because their fourth function is double activated. Basically they are using a middle function and their last function more than their Top function! So I look like a Te/Se ENTJ but I am actually an Ni/Te INTJ.
Glass lizards don’t “benefit” from full double deciding or double observing in the middle because their second function is weak and their last function is strong. So they kinda get a break on not being all in on single D or O but don’t get the full benefit of OO or DD@@kindauncool
I LOVE where you're going with all this, Dave- it's such a relief! Been watching your channel for a few years now, but there's so much I don't entirely agree with- but I think that your going in the right direction, here. From MY POV! Look at things more deeply- don't just count words or whatever- look at the points of things, and what goes (I suppose) unresolved, in how people talk and act. One thing: I'd say that... leaving problems unresolved, might just be to acknowledge that they weren't problems to begin with. 'Cause there's this difference, in certain strands of philosophy, between different sorts of issues: I'd call them Problems and Mysteries. A "Problem" is something with a definite solution- like a Sudoku or a math equation or whatever; whereas a "Mystery"- as I've heard it explained (in Dorothy Sayers' Mind of the Maker, for example)- is something like a situation that to solve it always involves ourselves, in some way. Think about the question of, say, Equality and Egalitarianism: there's plenty of neat arguments- "Owning with Facts and Logic" -on both sides, but at the end of the day a lot of it boils down to who you are and what your life experience is. Were you raised poor & needy or wealthy & comfortable? Highly Intellectual or with the idea you're supposed to navigate things with the Bible, or with Common Sense? Not going down on either side, I hope, you can still see how these things might weigh you down, and make it hard to... come up with some sort of clear, definite answer to things... even if their is such an answer (which there probably is!). That you can't have that answer, without coming to terms with who you are, how your answer impacts those around you... etc. (hope this doesn't start a rabbit trail- this is just an example!) SO! Thus, it might be that... say, Single Deciders are leaving "Problems"- problems with definite solutions, unresolved- "All you need to do is apologize!" "Sure she was a jerk to you, but move on with your life!"; but it might also be, that being so much of an expert on one side of these issues, that they're seeing that certain things CAN'T be resolved! A Ti-Dom, say, might see that there are certain things that being sure of their own reasons just... leave weird, either in their own actions, or in those of other peoples. For this to bother them, for it to remain of endless fascination- even to be something that they'd find worth savoring and celebrating, in certain cases- all that makes sense, and is not a problem. Ditto, of course, for the Single Observers and Things. So, cool video... I just thought that my comment MIGHT (potentially) be helpful.
You kmow you are TI User when it is the 50th video of Objective personality you see, 600 hours of studies, various amount of resources read, like 20 different conclusions between being an TI Dom and having one eight now that you are one and still not convinced
Truuue, I'm 90% certain about being INTP, but then I get random thought in my head that contradicts all my reasoning and idk what to think anymore. then I work the problem out and the cycle goes on.
RIP Paul Reubens. I'm another Ti/Ne - close to this type, just with sleep over play. Gosh, have I gotten my gears jammed with people out of being conflict-averse. If theres a clash of interests my solution is always, "Well, I'd better leave them to go and do their thing while I do mine". And we never talk again. I can't watch reality TV because all that emotion on display makes me feel ill. I'm getting better but I'll never have the threshold for drama that observers have.
Interesting I thought I was the only one. A month ago (actually I don't even remember when) but I was walking and two dudes were fighting and I was like "Meh, I have no idea what caused it but I'll let them slug it out and I'll do my own thing". Also strong emotions are scary, really can't handle mine and anyone's own.
Hmm I think contrary to how it looks, emotions are general but I think a higher Feeling function would be able to readily accept the emotions and would even enjoy that. But for thinker it would be something like a garden, the fruits are there you just don't actually depend on them totally cuz fruits just won't make you full, they can be a treat but can still be ignored. So are you INTP or ENTP
I like the fruit analogy! An occasional treat that can make you sick in excess. I am an INTP, so I also tend to leave decider issues unresolved. What about you?
@@fyn1985 Same here. If you are pissed, mad or tension is high, I make a quick exit. Oh, but your computer needs some update, how to get something to do what you need it to do, explain how the thing or concept works, I'll face that anytime any day. You want me to try in convince people or rally them up for some shared social event? RIP
I'm not setting aside the broken laptop because I've given up on it. I'm just diagnosing it in my brain. It's going to take a while. But if- I mean when- I ever think of how to fix it, oh, boy, that laptop will be like new again. Maybe I'll just get another laptop to hold me through while I'm thinking of the solution. It's fascinating how these types (including myself) internalize their personal problems and downplay them to outsiders.
that was fucking great! more of your abstract thought processes please!! cleared up a lot of my own thinking about interactions with single deciders, who just stopped interacting with me lol people
I am most probably a TiSi INTP. I horde info, parts of electronic, computer parts. Why do I horde things? The fact is that I horde things because I always think they'll be useful to me in the future, or a future project which they mostly are. My pal thinks I am Si dom though, but then again I think he got Ti Trickster as he doesn't even realize he is Ti trickster so he might not be seeing my Ti. Also, I got too much people issues, but I do find it interesting when I do the Fe (I feed the machine/person a joke and they provide a result called laughter). The question I got is, what's it with introverted deciders thinking that people are out to get them or people are annoying when they get into a little problem with people?
@@Pabz2030 Edit Fk man, having Sensing low is annoying. I totally missed what you wrote and I still came to the same point as you said. Ti is busy saying "It will be useful one day"
i met paul at a con 5 years ago and he was very calm and soft spoken kind of a sensitive nature. and i was over here in front of him acting a fool and fanboying. (im an extrovert) yet he was very nice and humble. under all the pee wee facade he was def an introvert
"you open the computer and the screen's black, and you go 'uhh... Well, I'm stuck, time to go do this' and you toss it aside and go" DAVE I'm seeing your functions bleed through your explanations now xD
As a presumed savior Di, I will sit on complex emails and texts until the last possible moment… having no idea how to engage. It baffles me how double decides navigate the social arena so easily.
@@Beyondflix Thank you, it seems to be common sense when you say it, but the tribe blindness makes it quite hard to visualize from one's own perspective!
It'll be hard, but practice, practice. Keep trying with the people around you. You'll make mistakes, sure, but some people will appreciate that you put in the effort.
Cool video ! (my Fi, Se revealed !) I noticed it too the doppelgangers who has the same type, the exact same pattern, humans are fascinating ! People embody so well their functions. I saw many doppelgangers of persons I know online, It's a little scary (Ni power of patterns recognition) Me as double deciders : I am weird, other are weird, we all are weird ! We all have strengths, we have have weaknesses. (I think it's better to let the single O double D talk about typology, Single D double O create conflict 😆) 8:44 They do ! Single D, double O, they finish their task right now, or they give up, throw it away ! They may throw their broken stuff in the bin and buy another, instead to repair. (more the F dom than T dom surely) Te & Fe dom, push other to do it right now ! They doubt/miss info about themselves, angry at themselves for little things (Fi or Ti last/demon) They ask advice/validation to others before take the decision/action. [I think most of my comment is useless, you already know all of that]
This is a neat tribute/discussion by Conan about Paul, he gives even more details about his personality. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m17fqR8iGPI.html
I wandered across this channel after seeing a review(?) of Growling Sidewinder, who I watch because he's actually pretty good at "dogfighting" for being an amateur. That, and the title said GS was an INTJ, and I'm apparently an INTJ based on some MBTI assessment a chaplain once had me take, so my curiosity was piqued. Thought the video was hilarious because GS is so low key when he's getting splashed, but having watched a few of the videos of this channel, I feel like I'm listening to someone talk about horoscopes. What the hell does it all mean? Do you have a video or a few videos where you define your terms? What the hell is the male/female yin/yang stuff (aside from the obvious as it relates to Paul Reubens)?
Welcome to the rabbit hole, my friend. They have a website where you can get full access to all their content for $19.00 a month. (which is usually about 40 minutes of content every week split between two 15 minute videos dedicated to typing a person, and two random 10 to 15 minute videos of Dave talking about a random person/topic.) I would say watch through more of their content on RU-vid before diving into that. As far as horoscopes go, their goal is to separate themselves as much as possible from that sort of community by typing based off of provable things that people do/say/how they act. It's not really easy to understand or follow and takes a long time because you have to really be able to understand the terms they are using, and since there are so many, it takes forever. Also the male female stuff is just being masculine and aggressive towards others (the tribe), or being masculine towards yourself, aka pushing yourself internally. Likewise, masculine sensory is pushing on physical reality, (may like to smash things for instance) or being pushy with ideas, which is defined as lack of being pushy with the sensory. These M (masculine) and F (feminine) parts are not a super important for the typing checklist. I wouldn't take them super seriously, as they just don't mean too much.
My brain cannot track any OP video that talks about these 6 topics: Observer, Decider, Single Observer, Single Decider, Double Observer, Double Decider.
@@skyblue5255 It's confusing. The words Observer & Decider sound similar already and they are not very descriptive, but then they add single and double, and I totally lose contact with what they are saying. I don't understand how anyone can keep up. Maybe it's because I'm feminine Sensory and feminine Thinking, so things easily slip out of my mind.
Ah I see. I do think it might be a little unnecessary, Observer/Decider seems like it would be sufficient to describe the same thing. But basically I think what they are saying is that if you're top function is a decider function then you are a single decider/double observer because you have one decider function in your top three and two observer functions in the center (making them balanced).
@@martingifford5415Observing is observing. Passive perception. Sitting back. Taking it all in. It's all about gathering information and patterns. Sensory data and intuition/patterns. No action on your part required. Deciding is deciding. Active judgment. Yes or no decisions. Greater-than or less-than value judgments. Choosing, valuing, solving. Thinking and feeling. Action on your part required. "Single deciders" lead with a deciding function and then follow with 2 observer functions. Thus single deciders = "double observers." Example: Lead iNtuition, followed by Thinking and Feeling. "Single observers" lead with an observer function and follow with 2 decider functions. Thus single observers = "double deciders." Example: Lead Feeling, followed by iNtuition and Sensing. INTP = Thinking (Ti) lead, thus INTPs are single deciders. What double observers do they have? INtuition (Ne) and Sensing (Si). ENTP = iNtuition (Ne) lead, thus ENTPs are single observers. What double deciders do they have? Thinking (Ti) and Feeling (Fe). Hope that helps..
I'll try to write it out visually for you, and maybe that will help. I was confused by it for a while too. If we take an INTP, they have: Ti/Ne/Si/Fe So the first function is a D for deciding function, the second and third are O for Observing function, the last is D for a deciding function. Ti = D Ne = O Si = O Fe = D It can be written out simply as D/O/O/D Or DOOD If you notice the two middle ones are O for observing. This would be a double Observer, because they have both observing functions in the middle making them relatively balanced with observations. Double Observers have them both in the middle, same with Double Deciders they have two deciding functions in the middle. Then everything I have explained would be reversed for the Single Observers. D/O/O/D = double Observer, single Decider, or just Decider for short. O/D/D/O = double Decider, single Observer, or just Observer for short.
