Introducing Haydn's Oboe 

Janis Cortese id drill a leg chair for that melodic duck sound

🤣 right! I was thinking giant peppermill

You should have a look at an es clarinet ;)

Chairleg. BRILLIANT ANSWER

Richard Dyson this would be incredible

No. It is THE most beautiful of ALL instruments!!!🥰

Austria's ( and Europe's in general ) GDP per capita measured in 1960 dollars has always have been around 250 $ for centuries and esspecially the period Haydn was alive . 250 (1960s) usd in today's money is around 2188 $ . So if my estimates are true then those oboes costed as much as an average austrian's yearly salary

Allie N - They are if you come from Yorkshire.

Brock/Baroque are fair game

Then you simply must learn to speak American! Welcome cousin.

What? How do Americans say it? I'm American born and raised and I say ba-roque...

I think the concerto genre did not interest Haydn very much, just from looking at the number he wrote in comparison to all his other instrumental works.

There is a "konzert for oboe und orchestre" but it is not proven to be written by him, although it is attributed to him.

I don't think haydn wrote many concertos at all. Yes mainly a symphonist. His symphonies include a lot of oboe solos. And he did write some "Symphony Concertantes" that include solo oboe.

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Rik77 You’re right that there are lots of oboe solos in the symphonies (and for most other instruments too); however there is only one Sinfonia Concertante (Hob. I:105) for violin, oboe, cello and bassoon, written in London, and first performed in March 1792.

I come from a post modern background.

I wonder what else you both have in common

I believe he means that there are open and closed notes alternating and that the color of each note is not always the same. Something similar happens with recorder, baroque oboe, baroque flute and most every woodwind instrument which uses cross fingering. Even more extreme uneven scales can be heard on natural horns when using handhorn technique, if you search it you can hear what "uneven" means in this contest even when all sounds are perfectly in tune.

Mind you, projecting back from 1780 in Europe is tricky because these were pre-market economies, so guilds and mercantile practices makes figuring out the historical value of currency tricky (wages were way lower but also included room and board), but roughly each gold ducat is equivalent about 60USD or 51eur in 2018 purchasing power.

Maybe, some organ builders of the time varnished or painted wood pipes inside. But I think varnishing the inside an oboe would result in a lot of water running out of the instrument. I don't know what that would do the tone, etc.

Oboes dont rot. They just literally break or warp eventually through wear and tear.

Yes, Renaissance, Baroque and later wooden instruments have an oiled finish inside and out. These are drying oils (typically seed/nut oils) that help seal the wood, to inhibit ingress of moisture into the grain. Problems (raised grain, cracks, splits) might arise if moisture is not allowed to evaporate after playing or/and the bore is not occasionally oiled, or the instrument is subjected to temperature extremes.

Its when you cover the holes in an odd configuration instead of just lifting fingers one at a time.

For example, imagine the holes are numbered, top to bottom 1, 2, and 3 (left hand on top) and 4, 5, and 6 for the right hand on bottom. Then imagine covering 1, 3, 4, 6 to play a certain note. Further, it could be that by partially covering any of these holes allows the musician to affect the pitch or timber, this being very important perhaps depending on what's happening next. Inside that instrument is a maelstrom of forces and they do not change direction instantly. There is certainly going to be a knack to getting the best sound out.

@@tonyennis3008 good explanation.

Slightly confused. Plastic oboes already exist.

The issue with a piece of wood is that it is itself an entirely unique thing. Much like humans you will never find two identical planks of wood. You just can't copy organic material like wood with plastic or any other artificially consistent material.

Who ????????

neither! A430.

Pitch was very regional prior to modern tonality.

Thread Bomb That’s not precision, that’s pedantry. The Hoboken catalogue number Hob. I:38 is precise and universally understood. It will never be possible to create an absolutely accurate chronological list of the symphonies as too many of the original scores are lost; the last possible chance of ever attempting to do so went up in flames at the end of WW2 when the Soviet army arrived at Eszterhaza and made a bonfire of the contents of the palace that lasted days. Any more modern attempts to compile an accurate chronological list (Sonja Gerlach for example), whilst correcting many obvious errors still had to include a number of best guesses. Any attempt to re-number the symphonies would cause terrible confusion, as indeed would removing Michael Haydn’s ‘Mozart’ Symphony 37 from the Kochel list and re-numbering Mozart’s last four symphonies.

Brumel's Parakeet Far beyond boring you mean

Brumel's Parakeet ‘Baroque’ and ‘Classical’ are not the same thing; instruments were used in different ways and the oboe writing in Bach or Handel is not the same as in Mozart and Haydn; the same is true of other instruments as well. The normal universally accepted spelling of the composer’s name is Haydn.

@@elaineblackhurst1509 Thank you for correcting my spelling. I know the difference between the musical styles. What you are saying is it is not the oboe's fault that music written for it by classical composers is so musically limited.

probably you can't afford it

8 ducats.

Blou Bear Historical are not at all expensive. Several very reputable makers. About 2000 USD compared to my professional modern Laubin which is 14600 USD

Never thought about selling one of my kidneys for buying an oboe ... let's think about it ...

@@johnchance5836 : what year your Laubin was made?

Lol

He wrote plenty more than that. There are 104 numbered symphonies and at least three more that have been found since 19th c. editors numbered them (Haydn didn't keep track). He also wrote 76 string quartets and much else besides. Part of the reason for this very fast pace of composing is that his employer, Prince Esterhazy of Austria, wanted new music from him all the time. But perhaps composing was Haydn's hobby. Imagine that.

@@richardholmquist7316 yes I read that lately

Richard Holmquist Recte: 68 string quartets (almost everyone knows that Opus 3 is spurious).

Finnally a realistic comment!

Bassoon!!