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Introduction To Wargaming The American Civil War 

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In this third episode of our history talks, we discuss an introduction to start wargaming the American Civil War. This vast topic is more in depth than this short video gives, but, we hope that it will give an insight for wargamers who are about to start wargaming this period or anyone who interested in the American Civil War.
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@jimgibson6142
@jimgibson6142 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the shout out to the National Park Service! I am always in awe in how much they care for our national treasures and the information they give to guests. Gettysburg was such an indelible memory from when I was a child and how they presented everything.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 5 месяцев назад
Hi Jim, you’re welcome and thank you for taking the time to watch our video. We’ve visited Gettysburg a number of times and many other Civil War battlefields. We are very impressed by how well maintained they are and the care and attention to detail they provide with their battlefield talks.
@Michael-ws7rc
@Michael-ws7rc 2 месяца назад
I really enjoyed listening to that. I’m an American civil war re-enactor in the American Midwest… which when you think about it is just 1-1 scale wargaming…! Laughter
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 месяца назад
Thanks Michael, glad you enjoyed it. I too used to be an ACW re-enactor here in the UK, I was in the 1st Minnesota and yeah you’re right, 1-1 scale wargaming 🤣😂.
@barrycarter9289
@barrycarter9289 2 месяца назад
I'm biased , but this is one of the best podcasts I have seen
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 месяца назад
Hi Barry, thank you kindly for watching and glad you enjoyed our sit and chat. 😁
@grahamtravers4522
@grahamtravers4522 Год назад
Enjoyable video, guys, thanks. Please beware of the stereotypes about ACW uniforms. Many of the units were extremely proud of their unique uniforms, and would make them last as long as possible. There are first-hand accounts of (parts of) "starting" uniforms still being worn well into 1862. For instance, there are photographs of members of the Iron Brigade still wearing their original grey coats in 1862. Zouave units were still being created well into the war, e.g. there was a whole Union zouave brigade created at one time.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Thanks for watching Graham and your thoughts. The 5th New York and the Iron Brigade is parts of the Union Army I have researched for a number of years now. After visits many of the Eastern Battlefields standing in the place of those regiments means a lot to me and although being English, I felt a huge sense of pride knowing what those men did in those battles. We look forward to returning and doing more research when we can. Take care 😁👍
@williamstewart4620
@williamstewart4620 2 года назад
Nice introduction to a fascinating period to game. In addition to Paddy Griffith's Battle Tactics of the Civil War is his outstanding "Battle in the Civil War", wonderfully illustrated by Peter Dennis, published by Field Books and recently republished in 2021.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Thank You William for watching. Yes you are right “Battle in the Civil War” book is an excellent source, I have the original, but forgot to add it 😂. Tanks again for watching 😁👍
@militaryminiature2620
@militaryminiature2620 2 года назад
There is so much material to game out from the American Civil War. Wonderful choice for a period to talk about!
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Hi, thank you for watching. As you could probably tell, it’s certainly a passion the three of us have for the period and as you say, it has a lot of depth to talk about. Thanks again and take care 😁👍
@dzelman444
@dzelman444 Год назад
Ummmmm Henry Hunt might have a LOT to say about massing guns. It was absolutely his goal as chief of artillery and battles such as Malvern Hill and yes, Gettysburg featured very carefully and deliberately massed batteries operating under centralized control. There were doctrinal problems with massing guns, mostly that people like Hunt had their roles frequently shifted, but also that the terrain really didn't allow for it. Battles like Malvern Hill, Fredericksburg, and Gettysburg were the exception on the terrain side, massing guns at places like Champion's Hill or Antietam was simply not doable because the sight lines didn't exist.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Hi Dan thanks for watching. Like we said in the piece, we never said it didn't happen, more that it was due to terrain or leadership on the whole that were reasons it didn't happen that often and is quite well documented. Historical topics are always of great debate as we all have our own interpretations form the many sources we read, that's what makes it interesting.
@Josh-bs1zc
@Josh-bs1zc 9 месяцев назад
This video has gotten me into miniature wargaming. Would love to see the three of you do another video on the ACW. I am a huge fan of this period as well and really enjoyed the passion you all have for the topic. Cheers to all of you from America!
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 9 месяцев назад
Hi Josh, thank you kindly for watching and the great feedback. I am really pleased that you found our video helpful and inspiring to start wargaming. The ACW is a big passion of mine as you have seen and I’ve visited many the Eastern battlefields for research. I have done a few more videos documenting a 28mm ACW project and also a video briefly talking about the Irish Brigade. You can find them in our video’s section. Once again, thank you 😁👍
@62seano
@62seano 2 года назад
Enjoyed the update, Lee interesting talk, I must say i'm a member of the battlefields trust, who do everything the can, to preserve our battlefields, and well worth joining. Look forward to the next one
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Thanks Sean. Yeah, the Battlefield Trust is excellent at campaigning for the preservation of history and well worth following. 😁👍
@eriknpf1
@eriknpf1 Год назад
Wonderful video, and I thank you for the high level of respect and esteem, that you hold this conflict. As an American who had family who fought on both sides of the war, I really appreciated your video. Thank you.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Thank you for watching our video and for the very kind words and support. The American Civil War has always interested us as we were part of the 1st Minnesota reenactment group here in the U.K. We have also visited many of the Eastern battlefields and was very impressed with how they are looked after and it also gives a sense of atmosphere to how both sides fought those engagements. We look to revisiting when we can to help understand and research even further. It’s nice to hear from someone who has had family on both sides of that time period and thanks again, take care 😁👍
@fernandofuentes6455
@fernandofuentes6455 Год назад
Enhorabuena! Me ha encantado. Ustedes saben mucho de esto. Gracias.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Thank you kindly for watching
@rollenschmock
@rollenschmock Год назад
Fantastic overview, thank you!
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Hi Thomas, thank you kindly glad you enjoyed it!
@maryhinge6334
@maryhinge6334 2 года назад
Another great cat Lee. I enjoyed this. 👍
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the video Jim, thanks for watching mate 😁👍
@nathangoodyear9763
@nathangoodyear9763 2 года назад
Great chat as always guys... Loove the American Civil War, as you know Lee... Wasn't the big battle you were talking about the one where you fell asleep behind the wall, thanks for reminding us of that nearly forgot that!😂🤣😂🙊
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Hi Nathan, hope your well mate. It was a great game and a laugh every minute. We are glad your enjoying these short talks and appreciate your continued support. Take care buddy 😁👍
@stigofthedump181
@stigofthedump181 2 года назад
thoroughly enjoyed that, really interesting stuff.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it mate, we are pleased you found it interesting. This series so far has been a lot of fun to make and who knows where the next episode will take us 😂. Take care buddy 😁👍
@mauktheogre4477
@mauktheogre4477 Год назад
Absolutely fascinating to hear British opinions and thoughts on the civil war, nice to hear an outsider perspective.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Thank you for watching. The American Civil War is a period that I’m very interested in and also how it was effecting us in Britain and Europe in that time.
@dysenteryking9034
@dysenteryking9034 8 месяцев назад
Very difficult to follow as an introduction to wargaming for the setting, but it was fun to listen to the three of you talk with such passion about a period I care about in my own nation. Easy sub.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 8 месяцев назад
Hi, thank you for watching and really pleased you enjoyed it. We had great intention to do it as a introduction, but we really enjoy the period as you could tell from listening 😂. I’ve been very lucky to have visited many of the Eastern battlefields and each time I learn something different, which leaves me wanting to know more. 😁
@basicminiaturepainting
@basicminiaturepainting 2 года назад
Really enjoyed this lee,cheers mate
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it Justin, it’s a lot of fun filming these videos for you all. Take care 😁👍
@gorram
@gorram 2 года назад
Fantastic video, esp nice to see content for ACW from this side of the pond. ACW has been a favourite era since I saw the Ken Burns Civil War documentary many many years ago now. As you say, a modern war with plenty of easily accessible primary material and images. The ranges in 28mm are gorgeous but for budgetary reasons, I stick with 10mm.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Thank you for watching Jill and your kind words. Your right, the Ken Burns series is an excellent source for the period and something I really enjoy watching. Our talks we do is to try and help the newcomer to either the hobby or to the period and hopefully pass on some of our experiences we’ve had along the way. I too also have a very large 10mm Union and Confederate armies which we also enjoy gaming with. I quite often use an old computer moderated set of rules for them. for our 28mm I normally use Pickets Charge, although these are great with smaller scales. Take care and thanks again 😁👍
@leonleese4919
@leonleese4919 8 месяцев назад
I like rally once again by Paddy Griffiths
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 8 месяцев назад
Hi, thank you for watching. Paddy Griffith has wrote some excellent books which are very interesting. 😁
@fraso7331
@fraso7331 2 года назад
Great!
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Thank you for watching, we appreciate it 😁👍
@hamsteronthepaintingtable6465
@hamsteronthepaintingtable6465 2 года назад
Lovely video BB, nice intro and good advice 👍🏻😊
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Thank you kindly, we really appreciate your support and glad you like our discussion. Take care 😁👍
@KingMATTtheSuperior
@KingMATTtheSuperior 2 года назад
Great episode! I think I’m going to pick up the fictional scenario book 👍
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the video Matt. Yeah, it’s a great little book full of interesting scenarios that I’d not seen before. Take care mate 😁👍
@tyrian_baal
@tyrian_baal 10 месяцев назад
24:22 This is certainly a huge misconseption about Confederate armies, infact by the end of the war they were better dressed than they were at the beginning of the war! The Central government took huge lengths to outfit their men and any serious uniformologist whos looked at Quartermaster reports will tell you that more often than not the Confederate army was well dressed and outfitted by their government. I'd check out Company of military historians article on Confederate jackets and you'll get a glimsp at the huge amount of clothing the government gave to its soldiers
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching and your feedback.
@fogh
@fogh 2 года назад
A superb show 👍
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Thank you kindly, we are glad you enjoyed it and found it interesting. Take care 😁👍
@garystride5200
@garystride5200 7 месяцев назад
Nice informed chat,enjoyed.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 7 месяцев назад
Hi Gary, thank you for watching, we are glad you enjoyed our video 😁👍
@militarywargaming7840
@militarywargaming7840 2 года назад
Wargaming is not just tactical play ie kinetic. The elephant in the room in wargaming is the complete absence of planning and operations especially logistics. When you combine this with research, a hypothesis, immersion and analysis you really are wargaming.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Hi @MILITARY WARGAMING thank you for watching. I completely agree with you as it does give that extra tension and more importantly a reason for your game. Take care 😁👍
@militarywargaming7840
@militarywargaming7840 2 года назад
@@BattleBunkerHQ yes indeed and what we are working on extensively...most interesting especially when you apply military wargaming rubric and tenets. What we are currently working on ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hl8e9FZDwC8.html best wishes
@davidwasilewski
@davidwasilewski Год назад
Top of my bucket list of games, is to play Gettysburg on a 12’ by 6’ table, using 6mm scale Adler miniatures, over two days. I’ve got half the confederate army done so far…
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Hi David, thanks for watching. That sounds like it would be great fun, a friend of mine has a large 6mm Adler French Napoleonic army, so doing Gettysburg on a 12’ by 6’ table will look spectacular.
@iangoldstraw6002
@iangoldstraw6002 Год назад
An informative video on ACW . Although not into wargaming per se, but I am into modelling figures of the period so some 28mm figures maybe used in a small scale diorama. That Osprey book is on my to buy list where and whenever I can get a copy. As regards cavalry skirmish / tactics.. Grierson's 1863 raid into the South was ( kind of) made into a decent movie "The Horse Soldiers" with John Wayne and William Holden..
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Hi Ian, thank you for watching and pleased you found it informative. Your side of the hobby sounds really interesting and very rewarding. It’s a great book with lots of information, I think it’s available from Amazon at a reasonable price the last time looked. “The Horse Soldiers” yeah, not a bad John Wayne film, I childhood was spent watching his films.
@YarkshireGamer
@YarkshireGamer 2 года назад
Nice episode guys but please, please please don't go down the "you can't do that in 28mm" line because you can, there are loads of people who do Big Games on Big Tables. Not everyone can and yes it takes time, money and space to do it but lots of people fight huge ACW games in 28mm 👍
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Thanks for watching mate, our talks are based on brief discussions on a particular topic to allow the viewer to make up their own mind and do some research for themselves. We do not advocate anyone not doing what they want to and I know you build and play large games in 28mm. But, not everyone has that luxury of space, time and money as you said. As we said in the piece, a 6 x 4 table will not fit the whole of Gettysburg on it in 28mm. Tanks again for watching and take care 😁👍
@YarkshireGamer
@YarkshireGamer 2 года назад
No worries mate, its great to see these sorts of introductory videos and they are great for new people to the hobby or the period. I guess Im just very evangelical about the big game, I even started a Podcast about it 😆 I enjoyed Pete saying that he had a huge table for 28s after Toby said you cant do big battles in that scale 😁 Keep up the good work on the vids mate 👍
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
All good buddy, I followed your channel and your blog for a long time now 😂👍
@iainpimenton2210
@iainpimenton2210 Год назад
Good video, what's the Osprey overview book there?
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Hi Iain and thank for watching. The book you refer to is “Civil War - Fort Sumpter to Appomattox” it’s on Amazon currently at £12.99. The book is on the right centre of the table as you view the video and is the first picture we show at the end of the video for useful resources. Hope that help Iain 😁👍
@JackSargePainting
@JackSargePainting 2 года назад
Excellent video gents. Will you be covering the English Civil War at some time in the future?
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Think you kindly Jack Sarge. I don’t see any reason why not, I’ll certainly bring it up the next time we meet up. 😁👍
@davidbenton8775
@davidbenton8775 Год назад
Got to this late, but, in my defence, I've only just decided to return to historical wargaming after a very long absence. I totally agree with the concept of let your vision determine your scale, and as I primarily am interested in the Grand Tactics of a battle, I'm currently painting up baccus 6mm armies and basing them for use with Greg Wagman's (Little Wars TV) Altar of Freedom rules. I found your video both entertaining and useful, well done on putting out there such material in a professional way. I'll definitely be looking for the other content you have produced, and hopefully will continue to produce. (must be a hotbed of gaming down there in Poole, I know the guys on the Bonehead Podcast are avid customers.)
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Thanks for your comments, glad you enjoyed the video and could see the vision of the video. Alter of Freedom are a great set of rules and Baccus are very nice minis, just not sure my eyesight is up to painting them 🤣. We are going to use the Epic ACW figures by Warlord to play Alter of Freedom.
@davidbenton8775
@davidbenton8775 Год назад
@@BattleBunkerHQ it's certainly a stretch painting at the 1mm to 1 foot scale, but the advantage is that most people can't see them well enough to notice imperfections. 🤣 But, seriously, they are best seen en masse, and in 6mm that's what you gain...the ability to put multiple army corps on the table. And...yes...the ultimate aim IS to refight Gettysburg! 🤣 and I will get there! (but not for ages)
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
@@davidbenton8775 That sounds brilliant, please post pictures on our Facebook page of your progress when we put put up our biweekly community post. That way we can show off your work on our live streams. 😀
@davidbenton8775
@davidbenton8775 Год назад
@@BattleBunkerHQ I'm on the FFF stage (flock, flag and finishing touches) of the first batch...that's about the equivalent of 17-18,000 men each side. So not long before I can put boots on the ground. I've posted a couple of WIP pics on Alex Sotheran's Storm of Steel page, so I can easily put them up on yours too.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
@@davidbenton8775 Sounds great 👍
@vonketteringham
@vonketteringham 2 года назад
Very good vid Gents 👍
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
Thank you Frazer, thanks for watching 👍
@leonleese4919
@leonleese4919 Год назад
Actually the ACW was the last Napoleonic war because tactics were close order infantry, effective small arms fire was used at close range. Artillery was used piecemeal until the very late war.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Hi Leon, thank you for watching our basic introduction to the period. Yes, exactly, as we said the tactics and use changed during the war with all the arms, infantry, cavalry and artillery. I think it’s what makes this period very interesting. 😁
@leonleese4919
@leonleese4919 2 месяца назад
I’ve played wargames for nearly 70 years as a 10 year old. But more seriously since Don Featherstones book in the early 1960’s. But mostly since 1970 napoleonic wargames. I enjoyed the video and I’ve been toying with the idea of playing ACW games. I have some old strip minifigs (15mm) Fromm the mid 1970’s and recently bought some AB 15mm figures along with some books. I also bought some Pendraken 10mm figures. I am going to buy the book you recommended and I would certainly be interested in any more videos and if I can contribute. Are you all ACW gamers with miniatures? Any advice would be welcome. I think possibly that a ground scale of 1mm = 1 pace and a regiment of 500 men in 2 ranks would be 208 yards or 250 paces giving a battalion width in line of 250mm. So if a 15mm figure takes up 7.5mm then your miniature battle line would 33.3 figures wide so that would 66.6 figures in 2 ranks. That doesn’t match with WRG rules but that would be just over 3 masses of epic black powder miniatures.
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 месяца назад
Hi Leon, yeah the Don Featherstone books are a great source of our hobbies history, I certainly have a few on the shelf. I’ve Wargames the ACW in many scales, using many different sets of rules over the years. More recently we’ve done a few videos on our 28mm project. The advice I always give to anyone new or experienced wargamers is to have fun and build and play however you like. When I used to wargame the ACW in 10 and 15mm back in the 90s, I used to use the first edition of Fire and Fury. These are brigade level rules that allow you build a large force to be able to play some of the larger battles in a reasonable amount of time. These have had a second edition in more recent times, but I’ve yet to try them. Most traditional sets of rules used to use figure, time and ground scale, but more recently most rules reflect this in an abstract sort of way. My 28mm collection is based roughly around the 1:30 ish, with a regiment size of 20 - 24 miniatures. Again, traditionally 15mm ground scales were sometimes in the region of 1mm = 1 metre or yard. I do think that miniatures today are getting bigger and that too makes it difficult at times to accurately represent a figure / ground scale. I hope that helps a little and I wish you well exploring this period 😁.
@leonleese4919
@leonleese4919 5 месяцев назад
It was actual the last Napoleonic War. (Paddy Griffiths)
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching and your thoughts.
@humptydumpty3345
@humptydumpty3345 2 месяца назад
Is civil war wargaming possible as a single player or is it necessary to have a group?
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 месяца назад
Hi, thanks for watching and your question. Yes, in my opinion ACW and all wargaming can be played solo, there are many websites of people sharing their experiences of solo wargaming. I have also played a few ACW games solo using Pickets Charge rules. I write battle orders for each side and as the game unfolds I’ll roll a dice and see if they stick to their orders, or deviate from them. These orders can be as simple as attack X position and then hold once completed. Or, you could say, the army will attack and push the enemy force from the field, but will start with a spoiling attack on the left flank with 3rd brigade of 1st division. Hope that helps, take care 😁
@humptydumpty3345
@humptydumpty3345 2 месяца назад
@@BattleBunkerHQ thank you much my friend!
@eddiepennington345
@eddiepennington345 2 года назад
I have the full time life series and I have read all but the last volume. The last would be boring to read as it is a full book index!
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 2 года назад
They certainly are a great source of information and well laid out.
@origen6758
@origen6758 8 месяцев назад
Mcclellan was actually pretty good though
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching and your thoughts 😁
@jerrymail
@jerrymail Год назад
20 years ago, i started with Johnny Reb III and 1/72 plastic figures. I really enjoyed the rules, but the scale was too low for my taste. After that, I try different rules with 15mm figures.... and now playing with 6mm, struggling to create my own rules 😅 For me 28mm are really too big, too expensive and don't give the feeling to play something ACW... You just fight with a bunch of soldiers around a farm. 😐
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
Hi, thanks for watching, we appreciate it. I completely agree with you, we started playing 10mm Johnny Reb II many years ago before moving on to playing the original Bridge Fire and Fury and had lots of fun with them. It was only in the past few years that we have gone back into the period after visiting many of the Eastern battles. Your right 28mm on standard sized tables does mean your not using a lot of your toys, but we are quite lucky that we can play on a large table. But I do think playing in the smaller scales does give a better feel and look for the period though 😁. I like the sound of you writing your own rules, I hope you can get them where you want them. Take care 😁👍
@jerrymail
@jerrymail Год назад
@@BattleBunkerHQ Thanks! Your video was very interesting, even if i'm not a beginner. 👍
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ Год назад
@@jerrymail Thank you 👍
@WendyDaCanuck
@WendyDaCanuck 4 месяца назад
Good video but I have to disagree with you on snake rail fences. They are very common, even to this day, all through the Midwest and eastern states (and Canada too for that matter). Even today you will find them all over the place in Ontario where I live. Anywhere that they had lots of trees the farmers built them because they were cheap (raw materials were everywhere), easy to construct (no wire or nail’s required), and durable (many snake rail fences from the 19th century still exist where I live).
@BattleBunkerHQ
@BattleBunkerHQ 4 месяца назад
Thanks for watching and your thoughts, I’ve visited many of the Eastern Battlefields and like how well they are kept. Take care 😁
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