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Amber is written the same way in the comics maybe worse. In fact Shes written so bad I'm convinced she's a stand in for a real person the writer had a relationship with
24:50 no he wouldn't be doing that in other universes. the angstrom levy in the main universe is the only one thats capable of traveling the multiverse. he said that in the episode.
Fun Fact: Robert Kirkman almost named Marks character Bulletproof instead of invincible, but changed it because he figured invincible was a better name. He then made bulletproof a separate character entirely.
24:47 Only one Angstrom Levy can make portal's between universe, so this incident only happened in that one universe and im pretty sure majority of the Angstrom Levy are dead because he grabbed all of them to that machine
@@erickamakeeaina1649not really. Could he a limitation when it comes to that set by the multiverse itself. Kinda like how America Chaves works within the MCU at least.
@@kingcaesar3693I mean his whole shtick is literally that he is like second-fiddle to everyone he interacts with. His brother is loved more than him, he tries to cheat on his girlfriend with Eve and she rejects him, his power only works when he absorbs kinetic energy while Mark's powers are always available etc.
All of season 1 Amber wanted Mark to be transparent with her, and so now that he is, and she witnessed this major trauma in his and many other people's lives, she's super supportive. It's a change but not as dramatic when you think about it.
@@matthewwakeman5382 Yeah, I haven't finished the entire series yet but I will say I find the set-up for Bulletproof's arc very intriguing and I guess the jealousy he has for Invincible's costume plays into its theme . . . I also like that he pokes fun over Black Sampson's name too which was pretty funny.
Her wit is softened, she's a little more vulnerable, and she's more understanding of Mark going out to hero. I'd say this is a pretty reasonable personality shift given Mark was just at the center of a 9/11 scale catastrophe.
@@colemanroberts1102 It's a big 180, but yeah obviously because the writers responded to how the reaction was toward Amber at the end of S1. It's jarring, and while this is a change for the better, it's essentially such a forced retcon of the character. Probably the one weak string of the series.
Gotta feel bad for angstrom he had the capabilty to save so many domensions countless people but now all that was destroyed because of a misunderstanding and he spiraled into madness fuled by traumatic memories of so many other versions of himself were invincible is an unstopable sociopathic monster
To be fair in the comic Amber was super pissed at Mark too till he finally told her, i mean I'm not sure why they took it to a extreme like they did last season, but it was very close in how it played out there too. Also I can't help but smile seeing people noticing Donald is just here again.
I mean in the tv series she got very mad at him for leaving them when the cyborg attacked them at the college despite knewing who he actually was and that he safed them
@@spazzout1k350 exactly. We watched him make 9 portals at once all he needed was 6 to make a Box that would have held him in place or he could move through one but no were else in the room
I think I prefer the comic version just because Debbie and Amber had flaws and were actually a bit more realistic - Amber especially, comic Amber was so much more likable and relatable than TV Amber. Sandra Oh is killing it though so she was pitch perfect casting for the role.
The cracks might be meant to represent his naive ideals of superheroism. Mark would still want to be the good guy, but might compromise on the things that hold him back. Like, here he is fighting the Maulers with kid gloves, when he could probably kill them. Only time will tell.
I can't wait till I'm flashing S.O.S. with a flashlight and blinds just so the neighbors can point and be entertained at some weird lightshow. Half the reactions I've seen are like,"what's that?" I know nobody knows Morse code... Idek it. But I though S.O.S. was the one everyone knew.
I'll admit I was with Arianna there, that was kind of weird. Oh, i don't trust you, random kiss, [breathless and tense] oh ok now I b-belive you...odd.
What's not to understand? She used to be an asshole for most of S1. The writers got a lot of shit for making her such an unlikable cunt. They changed her to be cute and supportive and likable aka the complete opposite. Simple.
@@redharlow9750 he went through a lot before she even figured it out and still decided to be a bitch about it. Hell battle beast almost killed him, I guess that wasn't deserving of her compassion and understanding
@@RobertMorgan The joke---- your head ---- (Just think about it for a moment...in what other context have humans said "YOUR PEOPLE" ....egh...it'll come to you)
Not sure why you guys hate Amber so much. Like the hate transpiring into Season 2 is so unfair. She's been super understanding (in the first season she said the only reason she was mad at Mark was that he kept lying to her. Not because she didn't know he was Invincible. If that was you dating Mark, you would STILL be mad. Plus they're high schoolers.) This season she's evolved into being even MORE understanding. I'm starting to think y'all hate their relationship for other reasons.
@@redharlow9750 or they're confused because she was a bitch in the first season and now the show writers did a whole 180° when it comes to her character because they saw how much people disliked her and realized they fucked up by straying away from her comic persona
What are you even talking about? What other reasons do you have in mind? They're confused by her complete 180, that's it. If she was so understanding then the second she realized he was a super hero she should've understood why he lied and made excuses. Or is he supposed to just blurt out his secret to anyone, get real
@@redharlow9750 girlfriend of a few months, yeah she is anyone. Especially when he didn't even tell his best friend about it that he's know a hell of a lot longer. Never kept any secrets because none of them would put his life at risk like one of a secret identity. And yes she did keep something from him, the fact she figured out who he is
@@redharlow9750 how's he supposed to know she isn't bad at keeping secrets or using them against people like she did with Todd, a few months ain't enough. It very much counts when she held it against him
Nah, she was also very mad at him for leaving her when the robot attacked at the college just to later say that she obviously knew he was invincible who safed them and a lot of other people that day. It just didn't make sense
So just a reminder, Amber got pissy at Mark AFTER he revealed he was Invincible in show and AFTER he’d saved his friends life. A pretty weird reaction. Comic Amber upon being told Mark’s secret identity does not proceed to shit all over him pretending she knew all along she knew he was a superhero when. she never knew. The writers just did this for some reason because I guess they felt Amber wasn’t well rounded enough. All in all let’s not pretend you’re gonna miss her when Mark inevitably dumps her for Eve and don’t even pretend like that’s not what’s going to happen.
Date a compulsive liar for a few months I promise u gonna get tired of them😂 I didn’t like Amber reaction too (it was childish) but mark should’ve been told her who he was like eve suggested him to, he should’ve told William that’s literally his bsf 😭
no matter how much more reasonable they try to make her, i wont ever warm up to amber. she dumped him for a dumb reason in my opinion and then went back to him when she saw how serious it is...he was keeping it from her specifically because he understood the stakes. i dont hate her but i do think its really dumb that mark took her back, so any investment in their relationship is not possible for me. frankly, their dialogue and voice acting comes off like two people trying to convince the other person how into them they are. terrible relationship and i cant wait for it to inevitably end
LOL. They realized how unlikable Amber was last season so they tried to correct it, but just made it worse. They need to just break them up and leave this character behind. Shes not salvageable.
Karma Police by Radiohead. A song that captures the fact that it's about the loss of identity in a world full of hypocrisy in which you can get lost for a moment. Very fitting to the first episode of season 2 of Invincible. The fact that Mark never once stopped to get any credit for the acts of heroism he performed really stands out to me. He isn't trying to fix his reputation and prove to the general public he's not Omn-Man. He's trying to prove to *himself* that he's not his dad. He also likely feels he can't stay in one place because all they see is "Omni-Man's son". My favourite scene in season 2 episode 1.
As someone similar, I love how upon Donald appearing and it making no sense, instead of just going "Huh, weird. Maybe that will get explained later.", the adhd kicks in and Arianna has the same stern, puzzled/thinking face for the next several minutes. Also, that's a good point: after seeing he can still pull in a bunch of Maulers, even when strapped to the chair, it looked like Angstrom had plenty of opportunities to portal Mark out of there at any of the many times he was knocked down.
27:59 After Nolan almost killed Mark in season 1 Amber was already like that though, when she returned to his house and was worried for him. I feel an experience like that (with Nolan and Mark) would definitely change Amber's outlook on their situation, like "Mark always being killed by his father and now needing emotional support" now is way more important than "Mark lied to me, so I'm gonna be angry with him", so those events shifted that dynamic quite a bit I'd say. 28:07 Regarding what I just mentioned it doesn't fell like they took too hard of a left with her. I feel like she would be SUPER selfish if she would still be mad at Mark for not telling her his secret sooner after all that he just went through (she was already quite supportive towards that in s2 e1). Against what Nolan did to him him, Mark not telling Amber his secret is like peanuts in comparison. Amber probably sees it that way too since she treats Mark way nicer after the big battle in season 1 episode 8. Season 2 Amber also behaves a bit closer to comic Amber so I am fine with that.
"his secret is like peanuts in comparison" Except when she came back to him at the end of the season she said they've both been lied to. As if him not telling her he's a superhero is the same as his dad turning out to be an alien planet conqueror. Even at that moment she managed to make it about herself. So yeah no shit they'd be confused about her 180
Man... it's super disappointing how much people hate Amber. She was 100% correct the whole time. Mark was acting exactly like Nolan; lying, making excuses, trying to offer gifts in place of being a good boyfriend. Then, he pulls the ultimate "I think you're a moron" card and tries to make it all better by revealing his secret identity when he thinks he's about to lose her. Since Amber had found out weeks ago, she just wanted to have him tell her. To finally be honest about this BIG part of himself, but he didn't. He is needlessly putting Amber's life at risk, without taking her safety into consideration. In Spider-Man, Mary-Jane makes the choice to be with Peter Parker, even though she would be in danger for being a Superhero's Girlfriend. Mark didn't give Amber a choice, and just thought he could string her along. It's surprising, since both Maple and Ariana totally understand Skyler White while watching Breaking Bad. She was also just HATED by fans, and for all the wrong reasons. Skyler is correct to scold Walter for the Danger he has put his family in. Amber is correct that Mark must be honest about who he is and what he wants, instead of being just like his father. I'll try to enjoy the rest of the reaction, but man. I feel so disappointed.
Haha the confusion about multiverses. I am used to that happening in comic books all the time so I could see it being confusing if your not used to that trope.
2:40 This is comic books. It's always a dream/vision/possible future/hallucination/simulation, plus now there's multiverses in eveything. This was the definition of "I sleep" moment, to be honest.
It was never a dream/vision/possible future nor a hallucination and sure as shit was never a simulation in the comics. Maybe you should read the comics instead of watching RU-vid shorts about them.
@@ryanscoffeehour6404it's still a lil boring another multiverse thing in a sea of multiverse things. It's not the shows fault, the comic came out literally over 20 years ago. But still it's like "eh". Hope it comes together when Angstrom fully comes into his own.
There's nothing wrong with current Amber. Season one Amber, however, was a bitch. Maybe she swapped universes too? Also, y'all TOTALLY missed the title card fakeouts! Remember how they would use it for his name early on in each episode? This time, they paused each time saying it, knowing people would expect it. But they didn't actually do it till the very last one. That cracked me up.
I am told that Amber was the supportive girlfriend in the comics but in Season 1 they turned her into a strong independent woman. After all the hate she got in Season 1 they changed her personality
