iOS Development is Easier than Android Development (VLOG) 

Recyclerview is just a nightmare for a beginner.

Gradle errors were hands down one of the most frustrating things when I first started Android dev... And they still are lmao

Notes 1. Android studio gradle headaches. 2. Documentation sometimes contains crap. 3. RecyclerViewAdapter vs simple SwiftUI Kotlin multiplatform is promising.

As someone who has done both platforms, this is spot on

I'm an Android App Dev and i almost send my resignation letter to learn iOS dev🤣. Stay safe always Mitch and keep it up.

Any old timers here remember Android development on Eclipse? That was what truly separated the men from the boys.

First of all, good content in the video. You are comparing swiftui with recyclerview in android, i think it should be storyboard and recyclerview. I have tried building ios apps with storyboard and it is not any better than recyclerview. Compose UI vs SwiftUI would be a better comparison. At work, senior developers do not even use storyboards, they write code to created views and all. For beginners, everything is difficult and beginners should understand it. With more practice and understanding the architecture of the platform, it will get easier. Another thing that i have noticed in ios is that the same code would run fine in ios 13 but would not work in ios 14 and i have found such issues in android very less but it doesn't mean one platform is superior than other, they both have their sets of problems. Excited that JetBrains have developed kotlin multiplatform so that android and ios devs can work together.

Last time I tried developing on iOS it was using Objective C, and I didn't care for it too much. The way messaging was handled seemed strange. I haven't touched Swift yet, but this video gives me hope. Nice video!

what do I do if my soft doesn't add up to the correct length of the loop? and I have so gap at the end because the notes aren't the

i have been watching your tutorials in android development and they are awesome i agree with the fact that android development has a lot of moving parts compared to ios thats why i recently switched to react-native for cross platform development it is much easier and the best part is it is still native apps that come out of the process.its also a the best of both worlds and you can get apps up an running fast too.

Thank you for sharing your videos. I will definitely consider your Clean architecture course when I get to it.

Glad to hear things are looking promising.

Ok and do you got a video for how to load a plugin in to the software ?

Kotlin and Swift are twins. I love both the languages.

This got me excited about KMP!

I thought the same but when I had to do iOS maintenance to an app it was quite difficult, there was some obj c bagagge and it trickled down to the swift apis, then ios12 incompatibility bugs were hard to workaround and the sdk not being open source was a bummer.

First problem mitch mentions about android I was facing at the moment, 🤦‍♂️. Am having a problem with my gradle, "could not find method dependencyResolutionManagement() in settings.gradle, yet it's there. Somebody help

With Jetpack Compose being released, what are your thoughts now? I heard it modernize Android development alot. I have experience with React and I too get frustrated with (early) Android development.

Engamenttttt my friend youre the best i love your vision on everything i proud to pay for your work broo! Greetings from colombia expecting to learn everything about kmm!!

Super refreshing to hear this bc it’s been my experience and I thought I was just dumb

your perspective about KMM is awesome

This is absolutely correct, I am android developer from last 4 years and i never touched the iOS before, However when i learned iOS it took month for me to reach out on same level of android where i am today. I know 4 years of Android develoment helped to boost my training in iOS. Still i started loving in iOS more than android just because of easiness what i found.

Ya got me at “Android develmer” lol. I’d probably make the same mistake with words. I agree though a simple recycler view can be a pain tbh.

Render engine problem Theme didnt support with UI component UI didnt reload until run app Restart ☺👍

Is this still the case in July 2023? A lot has changed since 2 years ago.

I generally recommend that anyone that is new to development and has access to a Mac, they start with iOS development. It's just simpler in almost every aspect. Thanks for the video Mitch!

screen in the top left, look at where it says program and click on where it says “aggressive te” and change it to “analog app 1 te”

Do you think KMP is possible without using KMM plugin at all? I haven't tried out KMP yet, but I have seen people talk about not using KMM plugin for KMP, since it restricts you to using mac os.

Great update, thanks.

Great video (as usual) How was your experience with MacOS?

Does iOS have MVVM architectural pattern?

yes, iOS is definitely much easier, I'm doing both.

There is no swipe for refresh in jetpack compose... Also no visual feedback with user overscrolls in a lazy column... This still really baffles me

A comprehensive KMM and KMP tutorial in the future would be awesome along with some iOS stuff

Do you think Swift and Native iOS development will still be in demand with the likes of React Native and Flutter bombarding it?

This is super amazing I need to follow up

Is it possible to master both platforms in native?

Does anyone here have any exp with installing macOS on windows? I have been trying all methods on youtube but they have not been so effective. Appreicate if u guys can point me in the right direction;)

What do you think about flutter?

Please tell me what is the best place to start learning IOS development as you are in the same road.

i would still call myself a beginner on android but getting to this point took so much grit from me. on the flipside, deploying to Google Play has WAY less barriers than deploying to App Store and deploying apps i think is part of the fun

Awesome content.❤️..not related to this. Which camera you are using love Bokeh effect.

I am a senior android developer and been working with android for almost a decade now. I am about to learn iOS in a couple of weeks and lets see

Subscribed for KMP. It will be great to see D-KMP(SwiftUI + Jetpack compose) as well.

I agree 100%, however, there's one issue I faced with iOS development as an Android developer, it was extremely complicated to go out of the box and design custom layouts, I worked at a company that required both designs to be almost equal, and it was a nightmare on iOS

Coding experience in xCode with Swift UI is dramatically super smooth and swift as compared to Android Studio. While with JetPack's Compose, coding in Studio is going to speed up to a great extent.

Sir g plz plz plz help me I contact you on Twitter but you don't reply kindly help me I need to fetch data from sqlite and store the numbers into string variable and use that value for processing plz sir

wait until you get to coredata and multithreading stuff. I've done both and both fields are complicated in different ways. Both ecosystems are evolving really fast and some new tools are really hard to get used to. Also in Objective-C era ios apps had lower level code comparing to android's java at the time. Now with swift and kotlin it's pretty much on the same level, but swift has more unconventional features that are hard to wrap your head around at first. I'd say android and ios are pretty equal now dev-wise.

I tried to learn android dev. for so long and always got frustrated by the amount of time/effort to build simple ui. Now I am investing in iOS and everything seems easier and smoother than it was with android.

Is it possible creating a kmp application on fushia os as flutter does?

it's interesting to compare the kmp with ios native in terms of performance

KMP looks quite interesting, but from what I have understood, if your app relies heavily on multithreaded coroutines (so most modern apps), the KMP MultiThread project isn’t quite ready for prime-time. Also, having written apps on both platforms, I find the code editing & refactoring much easier and flexible on IntelliJ IDE’s like Android Studio. Plus, working with older apps with XCode can sometimes leave you blocked for days from nebulous xcode errors. Of course, if you are starting a brand new app targeting iOS 14, things likely go smoothly. So both platforms really have their ups and downs, but I do agree that iOS is likely easier if you are targeting high IOS versions.

There are some weird quirks for SwiftUI. For example you can't have more than 10 direct children views in a view otherwise Xcode throws a weird, poorly described error. You have to refactor them out. Also AsyncImage (just released for iOS15) does not cache so each time you do a network request for it. There are 3rd party libraries that did this but first party is not perfect. I'm not saying it's quirkier than Android but it has some to be aware of.

Also both are improving significantly since 2018. IOS SwiftUI and Android Jetpack Compose are amazing godsends. It was trash before both those were introduced.

I have always learned the language alone before learning a framework. I like to sprinkle my language learning with unit testing.. just to get a feeliing.. Then framework gets a lot easier to work with since you are passed the first barrier.. I cannot learn a framework and language at the same time.

Dear mitch , first of all , great work with your videos, i love them. Now ,i'm not sure if you already have discussed this in a previous video but you keep saying that asynctask is garbage, would you kindly explain why ? Please do correct me if i'm wrong but newer ways to get stuff asynchronously , eventually ends up creating just another implementation for an async task with callbacks taking twice the time to implement. so.. why the hate? i do know that it often becomes source of memory leak but knowing what you're doing with it pretty much solves the problem and i'm strict about it cause switching languages just because google advises you too isn't smart.. your thoughts :) ?

Mitch, as an experienced android developer, how did you start with iOS?

Great vlog bro.

as a beginner i screw up on things like a lot of way to implement 1 single thing so not able to understand the standard and also issue with dependencies it makes me fustrate

From my experience with android, to understand all features you really have to take with you some java experience in order to be able to move fast, understand framewok fast(how it works especially in jetpack) without experience in programming I do not recommand to start working for large projects

Great video as always. I do have a request / question(Non Related to Video) I have this WebMD platform that uses Twilio Voice. Having serious difficulties implementing the call notification when app is killed. Wondering how the likes of whatsapp does it. Pls help

Although I share the same opinion as you (I have 3 years of Android Dev experience and 4 months of iOS experience), you can't really compare SwiftUI with XML UIs in Android. And SwiftUI is fairly recent, and a lot of projects are still in UIKit, and some older projects are in Objective-C. Apart from that, Apple generally releases APIs after having put in some thoughts into them. Everything is in standard framework.

Can't wait stable version of KMM

At a quick first glance, it looks quite a bit easier! (Android engineer but with my first Macbook on my current project thought to give it a shot) Swift is pretty clean code too, I like the C-style syntax and it looks like a declarative Kotlin / Compose style. Not changing any time soon :)...just love Android way too much but iOS development is pretty slick.

Libraries like ktor for the network client and kotlin serialization for parsing will come in handy, since both of these libraries support multiplatform out of the box 📦

that's exactly what I'm going through right now. It's extremely annoying when after fresh install of AS, instead of developing you have to tinker how to make it work, what's worst even their own code samples don't work as intended. Documentation is outdated, confusing and unhelpful. Constant deprecation and implementation of halfbaked ideas. Changes that make no sense like implementation of viewbinding, databinding when jetpack compose suppose to retire them all. Each release brakes something and forces you to remove something right after installation ??? does that make any sense? One day you learn something and it's gone the next. Hard to keep up with that insanity. One might think that with all the resources at their disposal they should make a coherent and well documented product by now. So anyway, it seems like apple is doing way better work when it comes to software.

Swift UI is declarative like Jetpack Compose, so if you compare, compare those 2. Recycler view is like Table View from storyboard or xib file. I spend hours to discover I have to drag and drop variable from UI designer to code part of UIController to just display the list. Both parts are very similar. Regarding dependencies XCode has many different popular 3rd party managers for that like cocoapods or carthahe. And of course there is dependency mismatch which can thrown many confusing errors, like linter errors for example. Don't let me even start on provisioning profiles and certificates. First time it took me whole week to just upload an app to the store. Both systems have pros and cons, really neither better or easier.

SwiftUI is not ready stable for iOS Dev ,so u need UIKit because most of all legacy apps still on UIKit and Obj-C

Hi Mitch, I’ve been learning and creating projects for 1 with JavaScript for web development and also React with PHP for 1 year and Recent I switched to Android and Kotlin. I noticed since day 1 learning Android all I’ve had is errors. Whether it is from Gradle not being able to build or some other error I’ve never even heard of!!! How did you manage to get past these errors and figure out Android Studios? Wow Android is hard to figure out!!! Also, is there a way to run Android offline? I think you need a dedicated Wi-Fi connection, am I correct in thinking this???

You convinced me to use native iOS instead of flutter or other similar solutions.

Bro 🙂 you are doing the best 🙂

I have been doing dev for ios and Android apps for years and I think ios development is easy but apple can improve a lot with xcode which is not all at par with android studio

The problem with Kotlin multi-platform is that Kotlin doesn't have the features that Swift has, specifically concurrency features of Swift.

Cross platform app development platforms suit well for small to medium sized projects. In large projects with huge code base KMM is the right solution.

Hi Mitch, I am from the JavaScript world, and I did a little bit of Swift today learning Swift and Swift UIKIT and boy Swift is nothing like JavaScript. For example, using CSS with your JavaScript is completely different from Swift. Adding padding with the Swift UI is weird? For example, to add padding you put. .padding() and in JavaScript with CSS you can get really detailed like padding: 0.10; OR padding: 10px 20px; Swift is really different! Also, Swift there is no console.log or document.write it is print("HELLO WORLD") with Swift like python. I think the only similarities I had seen between Swift, and JavaScript was the var when defining a variable. I will continue to learn Swift, but do you feel that there is a huge difference between JavaScript and Swift? I am still fairly new to programming, almost 1 year in using curly bracket languages like JavaScript and PHP and now I jump into Swift, and it is very different. Are there any benefits to learning Swift? Would you say Swift is easier to learn in comparison to JavaScript?

Which do you think will be will be a "cross-platform standard" in the years to come, Flutter or Kotlin Multiplatform Mobile?

probably it is been made easier in swiftUI than android studio and java (or Kotlin) because u dont have to much differences in the os between different devices unlike the android. it is open source and there is way to many devices with so much differences. that need to be considered.

thank you making video in this topic

make my first ever drum loop. I'm not and expert at soft yet but I have learnt a lot at producing and looking back at my journey, I just

it's true i love you, gradle issue frustrated my life, especially when you are a self learner. self learning is a big waste of time

i think you can say "faster" in build time, "simpler" in making uis. actually i also think it's easier than android however if you go deeply, i think everything is difficult and hard to compare which is easier because there is no finish line

I think you are correct. I have an example. I uploaded my app at Playstore 2 days ago. When I downloaded it, the Google signin is looping. Keeps on asking me to select my google account. But when I connect my phone to my laptop with Android Studio, I don't have issues. Very painful actually to be an Android developer...Hard to keep up with quick changes of the SDKs.

As someone who recently got back into mobile dev..im completely agree.. :)

How to you create your iOS projects, do you have MAC or are you using Hackintosh?

I came to Android from an Angular/.Net background and the first thing to hit me was how shitty the dependency injection is and how tedious it is to add project dependencies. They really could have learned something from their Angular team

1. Android studio gives random & vague errors 2. Multiple library, which are incompatible with each other 3. Bad documentation, which is improving 4. Complex implementation for most used things 5. Less dependency

However it is harder to submit an app to the Apple Store

Yeah man it's true, I had to spend a lot of time fixing a tiny bug Android Studio

yeah, for a list view you have to have adapers, and listens

As an android developer, my heart is stuck while you are speaking.

Even the old non SwiftUI way is much cleaner in iOS with TableViews and what not. There is simply a big list of things iOS devs dont have to think about things just work for the most part. XCode can be a beast though and publishing is crazy complicated.

I've found that iOS development is easy, but there is some trade offs. The gradle can be a pain in the butt. Every time I have to checkout iOS's repository I've had to run cocoa pods on a command line. They also have those weird settings on the profile that if are incorrect you'll be running around in circles. Maps have also been a bit of a pain to work as well.

I got amaze in every video of mitch

Great❤

It’s for sure

I wanted to switch to iOS but shit they still don’t have something similar to coroutines and you can have all of these guards and callbacks laying around.

Recyclerview seems complex because you can tweak and turn things to make it work the way you want to and the sky is the limit. Love android development.

5 years experience in Android, now learning iOS: it feels like Android is a military guy with an absolute discipline, whereas iOS is a hippy

not know , but just know you've affected my life, and apparently tens of thousands of others, in an imnsely positive way. Thank you

app management, store management, signing, building is much easier on Android. Significant when managing many apps.